Thanks,I,ve thought about the violence route,but I,ve gone down the police/Wardens and housing staff route.I won't be speaking to the deranged/alcoholic head case.What would be the point?If attacked I will try to defend myself like that farmer who was burgled and ended up in jail on a murder charge.This country doesn't give a fluck about victims.I wonder if things are approaching the point where ordinary folks may need to be armed.The police do not have the resources to protect us.
Well,at least it looks like he only wishes to attack if he thinks I'm in.Not much good really.
I won’t be speaking to the deranged/alcoholic head case.What would be the point?If attacked I will try to defend myself like that farmer who was burgled and ended up in jail on a murder charge.This country doesn’t give a fluck about victims.I wonder if things are approaching the point where ordinary folks may need to be armed.The police do not have the resources to protect us
I know this doesn't much help your current situation, but this scenario really is only a very very very small part of society as a whole, not really the norm.
For all the jokes and daft comments in this thread, it does sound like you are genuinely scared for your safety.
Is it one of the people with no fixed abode that actually have a council approved fixed abode so are not going anywhere, or a group of caravans that appeared on private land?
Both bring there own problems but I'd not be having a go at the bloke if it is likely you'll end up with a camp site full on your doorstep.
Has to be asked - why are you a target, what happened to initiate it?
Irrespective of the situation, nobody should live with a genuine fear to be in their own house!
I explained why earlier.Its currently all quiet on the Western front.The weekend will be the litmus test for any change in behaviour.
.I wonder if things are approaching the point where ordinary folks may need to be <span class="skimlinks-unlinked">armed.</span>
No, cos then the attackers would have guns and you'd be even more afraid.
No you wouldn't,because at least you'd stand a chance.
Yep, a gunfight is what will make it all better
Have you got a friend across the road who's open window you could borrow?
If so, make it look like your house is occupied and go and wait in your friends house with one of these...
Every time he throws a stone put one in his back.
Good idea.
My late father thought the only solution to the problems in central Middlesbrough was a machine gun.At the time I didn't agree,but I now strongly understood how he felt.Some places are collapsed beyond the reach of help.
Yep, then he can start throwing stones at your neighbours house, a problem shared and all that.
I will try to defend myself like that farmer who was burgled and ended up in jail on a murder <span class="skimlinks-unlinked">charge.</span>
Unless you intend on having an unlicensed semi-auto shotgun and shooting him in the back as he runs away I think you're quite safe. Funny how none of the "you can't defend yourself any more" mob ever remember those small details.
A lot of the ‘can’t defend your own home nowadays’ stories I have heard, have been friend of a friend type things. You can use reasonable force as described above - which offers some significant room for people’s own judgement.
There is plenty you can do
firstly check where you want to live on this :
https://www.police.uk/gloucestershire/FA9/crime/
It will load on my town but you can change it to yours - all we had in May was sexual violence.
find someehere with zero or very low crime
Sell up and move there
Simples
"reasonable force" only really applies to Section 1 offences - stones on the windows doesnt even register
Well back again folks,the now unemployed alcoholic is giving me a bit of abuse again.Told me he`s going to end my life and the Gypsies will be dealing with me.I told Cleveland Police about it and haven't even had the courtesy of a reply.I have also contacted them on a number of occasions but only one record has been kept!Makes you kinda wonder what the real agenda is.To be fair at an earlier date a PCSO went round to see him twice when he was drunk.He just lied of course being the drunken scumbag he is.
My Housing Manager on hearing the news said"I would never be in a position where I would be abused in the street."This is the level of arrogant ignorant halfwit that North Star Housing employ.God help us all.
I have to leave the library now,thanks in advance for any advice and support.I`ll try and reply later on.
White transit van with side doors, get a few mates as well.
You need balaclavas, big zip ties, old rags, gallons of water, pliers, petrol, bleach, plastic sheeting and mbp DNA away.
Line van with plastic sheeting. Drive up besides them and snatch them, drive out to a desolate area, waterboard them, pull out their teeth and then set them on fire.
Clean van with DNA away and then drive it to Europe and burn it.
Also, I'm joking. Don't do this, it would unfortunately be covered by a number of UK offences. Who would have thought that shooting someone with an airgun or kidnap and murder is illegal?
Is the abuse always when he is pi55ed ? Keep on at the cops.
Can't imagine how you feel in your situation, hope you can get out of there asap. Don't think you can't take the fight people like this and win unfortunately.
I have no idea what I'd do in your position, what a horrible place to be - I wish you only the very best.
Sounds awful. I cant help thinking if he was such a hard man he wouldnt have to keep referring to this back up he apparently has. And if his back up was really so keen to get involved you might have seen them already. Realistically its hard to call it from a few posts on a forum but has he just gob a big gob and needs putting in his place? Feel free to tell me I am way off the mark
I hate wading into a serious topic, but no one should have to live like this - the amount of time you've had to put up with it is even worse.
You say that you're in social housing; what's preventing you moving into private rented? Is it a cost issue? (no shame in admitting so, most of the population would struggle to front up a couple of month's rent out of the blue)
I,ve been told by the police after confronting him that I must be the victim or I could be prosecuted.This is the shit state this country is now in.I,m also pissed of that the victim is also expected to move.How about Britains police start facing down the scum!He is of course boro big gobbed scum or as there being referred to online LOMA.Loud mouthed arseholes.
Yes he needs putting in his place.Cleveland Police should be doing that but they don't call aggression crime.Its now referred to as job numbers and incidents.They also don't keep any proper records of calls or meetings.Which will no doubt be useful to them if something goes wrong.Any of you live in a collapsed hole with utterly inadequate authorities?
Thanks for your support and advice.
Can’t believe this is still going on. Have you no means of moving elsewhere. Last resort would be buy him loads of booze and hope he drinks himself to death. You have the patience of a saint.
It sounds like a frikkin nightmare, problem neighbours or being a target is stressful. Move. As soon as possible. What price sanity?
Your choice. Have courage and do right by you.
Write to PCC making formal complaint about local police being, apparently, disinterested; request a meeting with him/her. Do they hold surgeries as MPs do? If so, go to the next one.
Go to local police station, firmly/politely ask to see senior officer on duty and don't leave until you do; don't be fobbed off.
Your housing association appear to be useless; if you escalate within their hierarchy is there a realistic risk of losing your tenancy? That might be a difficult judgement call to make.
It's clear you have been failed by police and housing association.
My best wishes for a speedy and positive resolution.
Seriously, I hope you do get things sorted.
I can not imagine living like you do wondering when someone's going to put my window in or much worse.
It's all well and good to joke, but ffs if you can't feel safe in your own home then where can you feel safe?
In Teesside, chaps, these problems are ten a penny and alot are far far worse.It's a collapsed post industrial town with high levels of poverty and poor education.I,m sure there are thousands of other areas like this in our country.As for my social housing provider they are not useless because they no exactly what there doing.Saving money and bother by doing nothing.I think your all forgetting that bureaucracies have there own agenda.My social housing provider has also told me that verbal abuse is not anti-social behavior.Unless its aimed at them of course.One should always remember the hypocrisy of our self serving masters.
Our labour flunky crime commissioner doesn't deal with procedure only policy.So in this situation(and all others really) he is about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.
On the plus side I,m not getting any pop ups on this site for the first time in mon🤗
I can totally sympathise, I've been there recently. You probably already do this but keep a diary of your encounters with the guy, also of any incidents to you or your property. The police are very blasé about this sort of harassment but consistently report each incident, no matter how trivial it may seem as it helps them to build a picture. I eventually got an injunction placed on the person who was harassing us.
With regards to your housing if you want to move you could try a mutual home swap, it's normally arranged by the tenants through a website and you change your names on the respective tenancy agreements. If you're eligible for housing you can swap between housing agencies and council housing and across counties. Another option is to complain to your council's community/environmental wardens and he may be issued with an ASBO, if he's also a social housing tenant then you could also complain to his housing provider. I hope you get it sorted soon
Methanol in a vodka bottle. Leave it on his doorstep (wiped clean of prints/DNA).
Another crass 'suggestion' ^^^
The OP needs solutions not stupidity.
Monkey - I don't doubt the problems are 10 a penny in Middlesborough.
My home town was Wallsend - another post-industrial wasteland which I escaped from a long time ago.
You are still entitled to an appropriate response from housing association and police.
If you don't push it with both, nothing will change.
If you do push both it with it doesn't guarantee a result but you'll know you've tried.
Challenge PCC, police and housing association - ask them....what would you do/ would you put up with this/ is it acceptable behaviour.
Tell them you can't take much more and are close to breaking point; ask how they will feel when someone's blood is being wiped away.
Involve local media?
Why are you tied to the property and Middlesborough?
Aweeshoe-I,ve been told Cleveland Police allow record to lapse after a certain period.I hope this is not true but it would explain why there is no record of my calls/ visits.I have calls and emails recorded.
Do you think Aweeshoe that that the Police would be Blase if the shit was aimed at them.I think not.More hypocrisy me thinks.
Frank,why do you think the Police and housing associations if pushed hard would give a toss?I,m just a grain of sand in a collapsed society.Apparently CP receive 9000 calls a day.Perhaps its time we had a discussion in here about life in the Mad Max regions.I,m actually quiet surprised many of you are surprised by my situation.In a country heaving with loud uncultivated scum what do you expect?
threatening to kill somebody is actually a reasonably serious offence....... I would be insisting that the police act on your complaint.
If you don't push it hard for yourself, no-one will do it for you.
The soft/easy option is always to do nothing.
Police and housing association want an easy life; don't make it easy for them.
On North Star fb page there is a recent post by housing.org.uk; read it and contact them.
Involve your local MP.
The fact that Middlesborough is run-down and deprived is no excuse for your concerns to be ignored/dismissed/marginalised by PCC, police and housing association.
If your pisshead, scumbag neighbour is not stopped or forcefully challenged he will do the same to others - which then encourages others to behave in the same way.
I wouldn't be surprised if many incidents weren't recorded in the first place, ask each time that they are. If you can then request the same officers, and make sure you have a paper trail. My complaint came under hate crime and is supposed to be urgent but it could take days for a response. The person threatening and intimidating me knew that the police weren't taking it seriously and stepped up their attacks, it was only then that the police took action.
The person still lives in the village and I do have to watch my back
Yep,sounds exactly right.Something happens then to late the authorities show an interest.Usually takes a death in this town.
What do you do for a living OP? Just trying to think of ways for you to possibly remove yourself from the situation. Do you have any family or friends who live elsewhere?
