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Will try again  tomorrow


 
Posted : 04/09/2023 3:05 pm
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What the hell happened there?
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Posted : 04/09/2023 3:09 pm
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Not the same without a Leffe in shot

Agreed but a) I don't drink - not even for photography and b) I haven't got 3 arms tho that would help air the collection more effectively... 🙃


 
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Seiko make good watches.  Great tradition and watches like the Willand, 62mas, MM300, have cult status for a reason.   What is frustrating with a lot of seiko currently is poor qc which leads to movements that have poor time keeping or visual niggles like misaligned bezels or chapter rings.  Then there are design flaws on watches that are getting into serious money.  The 6rXX movements can be good,  but tend to be problematic in such quantity it's probably a design issue (possibly a design issue that highlights the poor qc) , hardlex crystals and non ceramic bezel inserts.  All these things seem out of place in the bottom end prospex these days let alone on watches at over a grand,  maybe more.   I'm not saying they aren't great watches,  just that Seiko is no longer the value proposition it was.   Buy Seiko,  but buy used Seiko.

Which reminds me I must list my sbdc059!

Grand seiko watches stand up well to comparison with omega, rolex and that tier. They still have flaws.... bracelets with poor fitting end links and stamped clasps with no or mediocre glidelock type adjustment.  But the rest is generally very very good.   My snr035 doesn't say GS in the dial, it's a zaratsu polished,  spring drive seiko in titanium,  it's lovely and can go against other watches in the price bracket.   I had said I'd sell it to part fund the zenith but I'm struggling to part with it!  I do think the ushio blue (slga023) is too much though at £10.5k.  Maybe it's just I wish it were less and more attainable!


 
Posted : 04/09/2023 5:28 pm
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https://www.swatch.com/en-gb/

Blancpain x Swatch now.  Allegedly based on the Fifty Fathoms.


 
Posted : 04/09/2023 6:43 pm
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That's got "follow-up moonswatch cash grab" written all over it.


 
Posted : 04/09/2023 6:55 pm
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Exactly, I shall look forward to seeing the photos of the mobs of flippers queuing up


 
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The 6rXX movements can be good, but tend to be problematic

Tell me about it. My Alpinist is back to Seiko for the second time. First the auto winding mechanism went really rattly and it came back running -28 seconds per day.


 
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03b289b1-7771-47be-867c-d6ceeb49fe84Girlfriend bought herself the Mission to Uranus on Saturday. She loves it. The glass and strap feel very cheap, but she’s happys.

Bought from the Pop Up Store in the Trafford Centre. They had 4 different options, Moon, Mars, Venus and Uranus.


 
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Girlfriend bought herself the Mission to Uranus

Must resist…..


 
Posted : 04/09/2023 10:07 pm
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@Kryton57 - that’s exactly why she bought it! She preferred the Mission to Venus but thought the Mission to Uranus was so funny she had to buy it!


 
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Posted : 05/09/2023 10:00 am
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Dunno if these are technically allowed but I think Garmin are really stepping up into the "actual watch" arena with these. Looks wise I really wanted the Aviator version but with me not being a pilot I couldn't really justify the extra £££s just for a metal bracelet and a GMT bezel.

Just been for a quick 7.5km run and it seems very impressive, comfortable on the wrist with no banging about or slippage, lots of stats for the nerds and looks great. The perfect tool watch if you can ignore the lack of any clockwork wonderment behind the dial.

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Posted : 05/09/2023 11:18 am
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A genuinely nice looking new range of Yema divers, and I know there's a few fans on here.

https://www.fratellowatches.com/hands-on-introduction-the-new-yema-sous-marine-collection/


 
Posted : 05/09/2023 1:05 pm
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20230905_153433

My last effort for Kryton57 in the Ravello sunshine 🌞


 
Posted : 05/09/2023 5:41 pm
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I like the Tissot PRX digital! Nice and simple. I prefer it to the stainless g-shock he compares it to. Hoping nobody buys them and they end up a bit cheaper...


 
Posted : 05/09/2023 9:20 pm
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Looks fantastic @bullet!


 
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Oo now, a nice auto Seiko you say? Not sure on the quality vs price aspect but it's not £10k which is a good start... Not mine BTW, popped up in my feed as though it can read my mind... 🙃

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Posted : 06/09/2023 12:52 pm
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https://www.swatch.com/en-gb/bioceramic-scuba-fifty-fathoms.html

crikey.

the blue and the grey are okay, but the other three are quite challenging.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 12:26 am
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https://www.swatch.com/en-gb/bioceramic-scuba-fifty-fathoms.html < crikey. the blue and the grey are okay, but the other three are quite challenging.

Agree that the blue looks great. Pricing seems quite high


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 12:37 am
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bracelets with poor fitting end links and stamped clasps with no or mediocre glidelock type adjustment.

That’s a criticism I see levelled against watches costing more than an average Seiko; someone was moaning about Sinn steel bracelet clasps not being machined.
I saw an old Rolex I think on Antiques Roadshow, or maybe an article somewhere, and one thing that really stood out were the bracelet links were rolled like a Swiss Roll cake then squashed, which just looked really cheap! The bracelet on my SPORK has each link machined out of solid and pinned, and it has a gentle taper from the outer-edge of the lugs down to the clasp, and it’s really solid and heavy; about the same as the watch itself. I’ve never weighed it, I don’t have any scales able to measure in grams or ounces, but I wouldn’t want to drop it on my bare foot.

Honestly, I don’t care if the clasp is machined or not, so long as it’s robust and has the flip-over retainer, I’m fine, if the watch is going to be worn, it’ll get scuffed and scratched.

and non ceramic bezel inserts

Anodised alloy bezel inserts are still common on high end watches, ceramic is a relatively new thing.


 
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<p>Hmmm. At least the Sistem51 is mechanical at that price which sweetens the deal a bit.   I agree Blue and Grey are the options, but I see you have to take your chances queuing at a Premier Swatch booth again.  <br /><br /><br /></p><p>Expect to see some on EBay later for extortionate prices.</p><p> </p>


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 7:47 am
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I'm not sure these will have the crazy appeal of the MoonSwatch. They'll probably do OK, but I don't expect queues round the block. We'll see.


 
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I bought the "Sun" Moonswatch last year (on a whim passing the store in Bordeaux) - legibility of white hands on gold dial is terrible, poor quality compared to a Seiko 5 around the same price, etc... but I still wear it a lot. I do love a quartz chrono, it comes in handy for something at work I'd rather not do with a $$$ mech chrono!

Of my entire collection, it's the only one a stranger has ever commented on.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 1:36 pm
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Finally gave in and thought I’d see what all the fuss was about

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It’s very well made and I like it more than I thought I would. At 40mm I thought it might be a bit small but it’s a good size on my wrist. It’s probably a keeper. It’s certainly a step up in quality from the PRX I had for three days (before it broke). The fit is much better too

Not the best buying experience or customer service from Chris Ward however so probs the last watch I buy from them.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 1:43 pm
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"Not the best buying experience or customer service from Chris Ward however so probs the last watch I buy from them."

Go on....

Also - to me, nothing says artic ocean quite like red and gold.


 
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Speaking of colourschemes - microbrand Venezianico released a new flavour of their GMT which I wish I was cool enough to pull off!

https://www.venezianico.com/


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 3:08 pm
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That looks nice although I don't like metal straps


 
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Finally gave in and thought I’d see what all the fuss was about

I'm not a fan of integrated bracelets in general but that looks good on the wrist. I like the dial too but I'd maybe find it a bit busy after the novelty wore off.


 
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Ripley unboxed today. HBD to me!

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Finally gave in and thought I’d see what all the fuss was about

It’s very well made and I like it more than I thought I would. At 40mm I thought it might be a bit small but it’s a good size on my wrist. It’s probably a keeper. It’s certainly a step up in quality from the PRX I had for three days (before it broke). The fit is much better too

Love it Robz, and really interested to hear your views. If you spend/ waste any time on sites like Fratello, Hodinkee etc they all bang on about the PRX non-stop, but the Ward doesn't get a look-in. Obviously they're utterly beholden to the big brands (95% of their coverage is Speedmaster models/ Rolex/ Tudor), but even so, they really big up the PRX.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 5:39 pm
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They’re at slightly different price points though, both have merits.  I bought my 80hr PRX for £420 and I’m happy with it for that, at £600 odd, I’m not so sure.   I had got the Twelve preordered for well over a grand, but got cold feet an cancelled it and went for something different.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 6:43 pm
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And if that last post didn’t make sense…


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 6:47 pm
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Yeah sorry didn’t mean to necessarily insult the PRX. It’s a lovely watch at the price point. It’s just that the Tissot and the 12 often get compared - perhaps unfairly.

So far still digging it. Was worried the lack of micro adjustments might be an issue but there’s a good amount of big and small links provided and the screw attachments are easy to use so got a perfect fit.

It’s very light compared to what I typically wear and it passed the wife approval test! Although she did say it looked a bit like a dad watch from the 80s!

Re the poor customer service. It just fell short of the standard I would expect of a company who sell a premium product and operate purely online - slow dispatch, lack of proactive coms and poor response to email correspondence. Not the end of the world but a bit disappointing. I’ll probably get over it.


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 9:22 pm
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Want


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 9:33 pm
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Thats ^^ a tall watch!


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 9:52 pm
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Thats ^^ a tall watch!

It looks it doesn't it! However, at 13.7mm the SMP300 is thicker, and the Planet Ocean thicker again at 16.5mm, yet neither seem  to wear as tall as the Seiko.  Someone clever is working on the strap and fit if you ask me!


 
Posted : 07/09/2023 11:36 pm
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That pink GMT is great!

I've had mixed customer service from CW, they used to be great but as they've grown it's been on the slide


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 8:10 am
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on the CW customer service side I’ve had a mixed bag also.  My orders have always been dispatched quickly but the 1000 elite had to go back after 2 months wear with a fault, got an email saying they’d received it and booked it in but then I didn’t see it back for 4 months!  Never got a phone call or email etc. with a progress report, just one day it turned back up fixed, no compliments slip, no schedule of works.  Very bizarre.


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 8:48 am
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Tall watch,  yes.  Maybe I'm trying to over compensate for.... other shortcomings 🤣

I do like large watches though,  and I've learnt numbers and even appearances on others can be deceptive.   My planet ocean is supremely comfortable, but the numbers probably say it shouldn't be.


 
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"That pink GMT is great!"

I can't stop looking at that watch, they have some other options which look great as well - I'm spending way too much time on their website atm.


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 1:14 pm
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Yeah, that pink Venezianico is great! In fact i found myself looking to see if you could get a pink NATO strap to compliment it 😀

Rather have that than a plastic Swatch/Blancpain.......


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 4:12 pm
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Rather have that than a plastic Swatch/Blancpain…….

Which I found out today is a non serviceable movement in a sealed case, so its disposable within its serviceability duration.   So much for "eco".


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 4:51 pm
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i thought you could do a movement swap with them?


 
Posted : 08/09/2023 4:52 pm
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My brother has asked me to sell his Animal watch.£60 anyone?IMG_20230908_092759


 
Posted : 09/09/2023 11:19 am
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My brother has asked me to sell his Animal watch

That's a horrible looking watch. So why am I so tempted?


 
Posted : 09/09/2023 11:57 am
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Harsh! Its damn cool imo. But I will chuck in some truly horrible unused Animal watch straps with it.


 
Posted : 09/09/2023 12:08 pm
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Do like that pink dive watch on the= previous page, but I’m nowhere near cool or hipster enough to wear it, this on the other hand I could really go for from the same guys https://www.venezianico.com/blogs/journal/the-northern-lights-on-your-wrist-its-possible

Idkw but that really grabs me.

That GS looks huge that neilnevill posted, still like it though, doubtful I’d ever be able to afford it.

Still got a hankering to try a CW, the models bought and shown on recent pages look very classy and tastefully understated. Really nice pieces.


 
Posted : 09/09/2023 12:20 pm
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That pink GMT

Oooft, nice!

Just as well they are in Italy and don’t have a proper ‘buy now’ and what it’ll actually cost otherwise… (one for the brexit bonus thread i reckon 🤣🤣🤣).


 
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@walowiz I know I'm biased but can recommend a CW watch. I had my Trident C60 delivered on time with good communication etc. It's keeping really good time (well within tolerance) and was a dream to wear for a week in the hot Italian weather on holiday.


 
Posted : 09/09/2023 8:36 pm
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Harsh! Its damn cool imo

I'm genuinely tempted, it's got a certain something all of its own, that's for sure. The strap playfully showing a provocative few mm of springbar is a nice touch. I'm afraid I think I'll have to pass though.


 
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A fair few quart wrist shots and a sode by side with the snr.


 
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I’m afraid I think I’ll have to pass though.

Cool, your input was massively appreciated.


 
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Hello chaps. Strange for this thread, I actually went mountain biking yesterday. Well, more of a potter to meet my old club, as it was the 'forum d'association' day in France, when each commune showcases their clubs and societies. I might rejoin as I haven't managed well not-cycling on my own. Of course, I donned my g-shock square for the outing!

Back to the matter in hand, my Reverso. It started again...! I took it out of its box last week and it was running, very strange. It'll still take it into the AD to see what they think, even if they'll only recommend a full service at €450! I had this problem many years ago, that quartz watches would always stop on me, which stopped me wearing anything (on my wrist!) until I got my Tudor BB smiley in 2013. As if this hobby couldn't be expensive enough, without quartz being potentially off the table. Anyway, I've been wearing the Reverso in the evening, lazing around my in stolen-from-an-onsen yukata robe jobby. Very swish, and the missus even likes it!


 
Posted : 10/09/2023 8:33 am
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That’s a horrible looking watch. So why am I so tempted?

It's basically a miniature 90s time capsule innit.


 
Posted : 10/09/2023 9:13 am
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I had this problem many years ago, that quartz watches would always stop on me

Working in Area 51 /  Bermuda Triangle again?


 
Posted : 10/09/2023 9:28 am
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Love a Reverso gaidong. We need more photos of it


 
Posted : 10/09/2023 12:18 pm
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Put the SMP back on its bracelet today.  Christ it’s heavy.  Omega could learn a thing or two about tapering bracelets from Rolex. Think I’ll get the rubber back on it

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in fact it lasted 10 minutes, just can’t get on with it.  I’ll always buy a watch on a bracelet  and I usually like them, but the SMP does not have a good one.  It’s just too big and chunky for me.   My old Seamaster had a similar non tapering one but wasn’t as chunky and was fine.  They can make a comfortable bracelet as my Speedmaster has a nice one (although 2 micro adjust holes is rubbish)


 
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@kato, I may have posted this one from the summer already.

Reverso

The photos I'm looking forward to are winter ones, sat by the fire with endless cups of tea.


 
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An absolute classic 😍


 
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Lol at kato! Come and borrow my po. Get some protein powder in and build your biceps. I know what you mean but trust me, the smp is not that heavy even on the bracelet. O know what you mean and it's weighty but. I bought mine on the bracelet, it is still fully stickered and unworn. It's a good bracelet and the micro adjustable clasp is superb. It's comfortable and looks good, but it doesn't taperb which is a mistake. I keep toying with buying an uncle Seiko or forstner version of the speedy bracelet, they look superb in those.


 
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https://timeandtidewatches.com/hands-on-the-longines-legend-diver-now-on-mesh/

this is calling to me at the moment.


 
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Cool, your input was massively appreciated

Happy to help. Console yourself that at least it got your "brother's" watch a few extra posts worth of attention!


 
Posted : 10/09/2023 8:34 pm
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Lovely stuff 👍


 
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Well, colour me surprised!

you may remember I bought the Oris Aquis from Sellors/Jura on a crazy/suspiciously cheap 40% off and another 10% deal, but when it arrived it came without documents, box  and warranty card,  I then got all stroppy and nearly sent it back as they hadn’t mentioned missing items on the site?  Well, a package just arrived without notice, with all of the replacement items inside and 5 mins later I had an email from Oris saying my watch had now been registered for the 10 year warranty.  Result!  Well done Sellors.


 
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The Coulson?


 
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Urgh, Reverso stopped again. A full service it is I guess...


 
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Tudor teasing again.... https://www.tudorwatch.com/en/reveal


 
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Yay blazin'!  We told you jura were decent but glad they came through.


 
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I'm guessing big block chrono return.


 
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I really hope it has a ceramic bezel....

As I prefer steel, and then I won't want it!


 
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So, what’s everybody’s thoughts on this?  It was my first ‘proper’ watch but hardly every wear it these days.  Trying to decide wether to move it on or keep it in the box just in case!


 
Posted : 13/09/2023 2:22 pm
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...Toenails need cutting


 
Posted : 13/09/2023 2:33 pm
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@Blazin-saddles if you do decide to sell, I could be interested.


 
Posted : 13/09/2023 2:41 pm
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Id keep it, with it being very reminiscent of the B&R BR03 and its distinctive shape (and the wallet friendly price point)


 
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@Blazin-saddles

I always quite liked them, CW had a slightly wider range of styles back in't day.  They do seem to be improving the diversity of their options now but for the last few years have been very diver-heavy.


 
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<span style="caret-color: #000000; color: #000000; font-family: Roboto, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, 'Noto Sans', sans-serif, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', 'Segoe UI Symbol', 'Noto Color Emoji'; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;">…Toenails need cutting
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if you go zooming in, you get what you deserve!

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I actually had a knock off B&R before this, which is what prompted me to get rid of the spurious watch and get some real Swiss.  Saw it in an in-flight magazine advert and was smitten.


 
Posted : 13/09/2023 3:00 pm
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I'd keep it, but then I'm biased as I have the dive watch version with the internal bezel 🙂


 
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Good Jesus


 
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