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They're just OK, I have a similar one from Timex without the gold tone parts and it feels very cheap even for the money. It's not been worn much at all.
I just picked up a Rotary watch yesterday for around the same price and it feels much more premium with better water resistance, better attention to detail and the second hand actually hits the indices.
That links to something called a depth charge
Yes, it’s a rumoured-to-be-made-by-rotary very good quality watch. Plenty of reviews to Google.
Fair enough, not really a similar style of watch to the Timex he was proposing though is it?
My first 'proper' watch was a Rotary; about £150 c1978.
^lot of money back then
They’re just OK, I have a similar one from Timex without the gold tone parts and it feels very cheap even for the money. It’s not been worn much at all.
Thanks. Glad I asked as that sounds like I'd be disappointed. I’m genuinely a bit lost in knowing the dross from the decent brands in watches. It's that style I'm looking for as an alternative / daily wearer, at that sort of price point. Not really sure what else to consider so any suggestions for a simple design, leather strap, sub-£100 in that style welcomed.
My current watches - not a spectacular history compared to most in this discussion, but this is where I am:
Animal: bought in 1997 with my first pay from a summer job between school and uni. Original velcro strap was a health hazard after a few years (if you've had one you'll know), currently fitted with a black leather with subtle yellow stitching. Needs another new battery, too sentimental to ever sell.
Casio G-Shock: c2002 I think? Doubled up for diving use when I did a bit of that. Subsequently used on holidays use when I was concerned about taking my Omega. Original battery only recently died but I resurrected it with a new one after taking this photo.
Rotary Flyer: c1978, my grandad's watch. The warranty card shows it registered a few days before I was born, so a nice bit of family history. Its had the crack on the face for as long as I’ve had it. The original expanding metal bracelet rips hairs out of your wrist so I wear it with a plain leather strap.
Omega Seamaster Professional: c2005, given to me by the future Mrs a11y as ‘recompense’ for an engagement ring. I'll never sell this. Currently worn daily but I’m looking for some variety and other options to give this a break occasionally, hence dipping into this watch thread.
I had a play around with some straps on the CW yesterday, I'd be interested in what you guys think:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kryton1957/51924263620/
A black Zulu tropic. I think the black strap rely makes the watch "pop" vs the OEM blue, and this'll be my default.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kryton1957/51924263605/in/photostream/
Brown leather. I was surprised by this, it looks better than I thought. For me this takes it to "smart casual" office wear or dining out perhaps.
That’s a nice watch!
Prefer the black over the brown. My blue faced breitling ended up looking pretty good an orange zulu strap, quite an informal look though.
Thanks Kilo. They do provide an OEM orange strap as an example here (I don't have one) and I was keen on it personally.
I think my orange one was a fairly cheap Amazon job, that’s the beauty of Zulu straps, doesn’t cost much to experiment.
Since someone mentioned Rotary, I wonder if folk could give info on mine. I think it's about 30 years old.


I like that the tip of the winder thing is blue glass (hard to see in the picture)
my Super Compressor was on the orange Tiber strap. It was really nice and I highly recommend it
No help on that Rotary but a quick look at their current range and I thought some of them looked pretty nice to be fair.
@Kryton57 the black strap doesn’t really do it for me, the brown is a better look.
I’m sure I’ve seen a CW strap that was blue with Orange stitching that could be interesting on that watch. Or was it the other way round? It looked good whichever way it was.
@Kryton57 I prefer the brown leather strap too. The rubber doesnt do it for me.
Working Waltham pocke****ch. The seconds hand has fallen off. Belonged to Mrs SSS's Grandfather. Not to sure of the history/age/vintage.
But nice nonetheless.


This featured on Antiques Roadshow on Sunday:
A very rare Apollo/Soyuz Speedy.
Worth at least £80k apparently. Guy was arse smacked.
Seen that. There was some discussion about it over on Omega forums and the consensus was that as it was commissioned by an Italian jeweller and not Omega themselves it was probably worth closer to £30k. Turns out it sold in December for £41.5k so still a nice return for something that was previously cluttering up a drawer.
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/26687/lot/12/
What do people make of some of the alternative Tudor models? Such as the 1926 (41mm)
I had a brief flirt with them but ultimately decided I wasn't so keen on them because of the hands. They seem good on paper though if not a tad soulless to me personally.
Omega have just announced the release of the Seamaster Planet Ocean Ultra Deep. Three prototypes went down into Challenger Deep attached to the manipulator arm of a submersible in 2019, and survived twelve hours at 36,000 feet! The retail version is rated at 6000 metres/20,000 ft water resistance! Should survive a shower, or snorkelling off the coast, then… 🤣
That Ultra Deep is absolutely lovely. I have no need of something that waterproof like 99.99% of people but would still buy one if I could afford it! (never say never though 😉 )
I'm after some advice please, particularly relating to Seiko 5 owners.
I bought a modded one from Yobokies almost 10 years ago, paid extra for a sapphire crystal face as I'm a bit clumsy at times giving it a scrape/smack on the desk when working, and have been reasonably pleased with it apart from the fact it has been losing at least 2 mins per week despite being worn all the time.
This was up until the start of lockdown and now its losing almost 5 mins per week.
Is this typical of Seiko 5s?
Is there anywhere that economically repairs them?
Or should I be looking at something else?
I read good reviews of Citizen Eco drive for time keeping but they don't appear to come with sapphire crystal faces and some say they scratch easy.
If its uneconomical to repair what would you recommend for less than £150, preferably less than £100 which is similar to this if possible with white numerals on a black background.
https://www.theyobokies.com/?mod=product&sec=item&task=detail&id=563
Thanks
After 10 years it'll be due a service, although with a cheap movement it'll be cheaper to just replace the movement.
There are instructions on YouTube if you're willing to have a go yourself, it's not too difficult just the small size of everything makes a bit of a challenge. Any proper jeweler would do it or there are people on eBay who offer it for about £100, or did when I last looked.
@danti I have one of these: https://www.goldsmiths.co.uk/Citizen-Eco+Drive-Gents-Perpetual-Chrono-A.T-Watch-AT4008+51E/p/17690666?store=205&lsft=utm_content:shopping___adty__pla___prch__local___stco__205___prid__17690666,utm_medium:cpc&gclid=Cj0KCQiAybaRBhDtARIsAIEG3kkiZBwLEjZ49BgcFhb9i5ROGBGztOR6-ox89Ab_jZF9HptTKSaaAD8aAld8EALw_wcB
Its sapphire and has lots of other features. You can get hot much cheaper than that, I paid £310 for mine albeit 5-6 years ago.
@Bullet - exactly my thoughts too; I mean I can’t even bloody swim, but it’s just all the engineering that’s gone into producing a watch that can survive at the bottom of Challenger Deep - one actually spent five days down there after the ROV broke down and had to be left behind and retrieved later. I’ve just checked the pressure down there, it’s 1,086 bar, 15,750psi!
Wearing it in the shower, not a problem. 😁
Wearing it in the shower, not a problem.
Dunno. I’ve got a pretty powerful shower. The massage settings would probably invalidate the warranty. 😉
It even looks nice though.
That Ultra Deep is absolutely lovely. I have no need of something that waterproof like 99.99% of people
Surely no one’s ever going to be wearing a watch that’s exposed to that kind of pressure - the watch would survive, but they’d be long dead ☠️
Hiya,
Whilst we are on Watches. Absolute bargain for last years Garmin Fenix:
I don't need the touchscreen but mapping and music would be cool and NFC payments.
My Fenix 3 is being retired to sproggit to use.
BR
JeZ
Bit of advice from the STW Watcherati please.
Visting my parents and noticed the auld man wearing a nice looking watch I haven't seen before. Usually wears a Casio G-Shock I bought him in a PX.
Turns out it's an Omega Chronostop Geneve his parents bought him @1968 in Germany along with another two for his brothers.
It's still in good nick and he says it keeps good time after being in a drawer for god knows how long.
Anyhoo, if it requires a service could you recommend a company/individual please?
Ta in advance.
Anyhoo, if it requires a service could you recommend a company/individual please?
Based on the recommendation from here and an excellent door to door service I received recently Calibre watch repair for sure. https://calibrewatchrepair.com/
Omega have just announced the release of the Seamaster Planet Ocean Ultra Deep
That’s lovely, completely out of my price range and I’ve no idea why I’d ever need a watch that can survive to those depths. But lovely none the less.
And prompted by someone’s post a few pages ago about some black edition seiko dive watches, this popped up at a hard to resist price on another forum I’m on. Got it today and really like it and it looks unworn.
I am going to have to sell at least two now, with two new recent ones (to me anyway). Thankfully I do like this new black turtle, as I now have no need to spend on one of the new seiko black edition dive watches and I’ve saved myself a grand.

Nice, had mine since they came out and its been worn more or less everyday since. I find the shape of the case makes it quite comfortable.
I like that ^^
I have a question; I know your not supposed to get leather straps wet, but what happens if you do, and does it matter if you don't have an affinity with the strap?
I get pissed off having to take watches on/off when showering but have two I like to keep on leather straps.
It's just the leather isn't water proof so it damages it, just like sweat does. You can undo/prevent/limit the damage through regular treatment with hide food to replenish the oils in the leather, just like treating a pair of boots.
@dante thanks for that link. I bought a watch off Yokobies about 9 years ago. Nice to see he now has a website
Well that's annoying. Everyone has to have a 5600/5610 in their collection right? And everyone raves about them.
So I bought on from the classifieds at a price I considered good ( no issues with the seller or the watch at all btw!) received it the this morning, put it on and...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kryton1957/51951103747/in/dateposted/
...discovered I don't like it. I've no idea why, I must be in a minority pool of people how bloody annoying. I guess its onto eBay...
Well that’s annoying. Everyone has to have a 5600/5610 in their collection right? And everyone raves about them.
So I bought on from the classifieds at a price I considered good ( no issues with the seller or the watch at all btw!) received it the this morning, put it on and…
…discovered I don’t like it. I’ve no idea why, I must be in a minority pool of people how bloody annoying. I guess its onto eBay…
It'll be the Negative Display.
I had a GW B5600 with a negative dial and just didn't like it.
Sat here wearing my Bogo GW-M5610 with a normal display and I find it much better for that relatively simple difference.
Bung it on fleabay, you'll probably make your money back, go buy one with a normal display to try...
Any interest in the Swatch/Omega colab due shortly?
It’s awful. The colour scheme, the day / date configuration. Just mingin’.
Agree about the day/date arrangement but other than that I like it! Wouldn't part with £1500 for it though
It’ll be the Negative Display.
I had a GW B5600 with a negative dial and just didn’t like it
I've got a GD-350 with a negative display and I like it. It's a bit too stealth for me to be able to read the time readily, so a pretty big fail on the "being a watch" front I suppose...
I think I know the problem - naively I thought I'd be "wow, I own a 5610!" but I didn't and because I'm trading upward/minimising my collection it now sits as a cheap "G" I might never wear, because I do have a GST-B300S-1A that I enjoy, and an Instinct for the rough an' tumble of MTB.
And its not as though they are rare either....
Oh well, you live & learn!
That Darwil (who?) is horrid! A nasty mish-mash of styles, none of which really seem to go together. And £1500? Who the **** are they trying to kid! I’ll take either of the Heimdallr watches I have, or many of their other models, over that, and they’re all a fraction of the price. Honestly, for a Swiss watch, (apparently), it looks like a cheap Chinese or Russian retro 60’s knock-off. 🤢
Bit off topic, but before I start a new thread, thought there may be some expertise here.
Has anyone ever tried Polywatch on plastic spectacles lenses? I don't think there's a coating on them, but even if there is and that gets taken off they'll be much improved by the lack of scratches. Damage mainly caused by mountain biking I assume. If I get a new pair these will be relegated to cycling specs.
Any interest in the Swatch/Omega colab due shortly?
Oh, details broke this morning. yeah, I fancy one of them! Although I can't go shopping this weekend, and I reckon initial stock will be gone by Sunday afternoon.

Any interest in the Swatch/Omega colab due shortly?
I quite like them, the grey one particularly is very nice. I'm near a Swatch shop on Saturday so if they have any in stock I'll take a look.
I rather like them too but I'm waiting for the Tudor announcement before adding to my fantasy watch collection
One of my work colleagues just spotted me looking the photos, told me they're only available in London and Edinburgh stores. So not limited edition, but.... 🙁
Any interest in the Swatch/Omega colab due shortly?
I quite like that. I don’t need one (& really shouldn’t buy one). But at £207 or thereabouts, probably the most cost effective entry point for a speedmaster. Some nice touches and design on those watches.
https://www.swatch.com/en-gb/bioceramic-moonswatch.html
As above, if I wasn’t driving to Cannock on Saturday I’d be tempted to jump on the tube to Covent Garden.
A new watch will probably be cheaper than the fuel bill to the West Midlands! 😁
…and a lot less effort than racing an MTB for 6hrs, it certainly does have a lot of appeal! If anyones going I’m good for the standard black MoonSwatch!
Really want a black moonSwatch, sadly live in rural Lincolnshire so a bit too far to go to get one
I very much like the the “moon” Moonswatch but when what I really want is a proper moonwatch it’s not going to satisfy me. The same as the Bulova moonwatch I had lasted about a month!
plus I’ve found myself looking at Mont Blanc pens……
Any interest in the Swatch/Omega colab due shortly?
I'm sorely tempted with a trip into Edinburgh this weekend. Plain Mission to the Moon for me.
I did read on their press release that they were only available in boutiques "for now". They're not limited editions so I can see them being online before long
Otherwise the flippers will be going crazy
a11y you might get your trip paid for I'd you added a fiver to the price for STW collection and delivery 🙂
@Kryton57 I'm struggling to justify N+1*, otherwise I'd have the train ticket booked already 🙂
* reason being I've recently bought a few more watches and not sure I can justify another right now. Nothing expensive, just for a bit of variety. But I do like a Speedmaster style (actually set out to buy one but ended up preferring a Seamaster at the time).
1978 Junghens 667.70 C 37mm:
Braun BN0032BKBKMHG 40mm - I particularly like the mesh strap on this one:
Sterzinger Zeitmesser 1 38mm:
As someone who was never going to buy a Moonwatch, but always admired it, the Swatch x Omega colab is seriously tempting. Such an affordable price, so much more fun than a real Moonwatch. I'm lucky that I live near a Swatch store so plan to pick one (maybe two) up.
I really like that Swatch x Omega Moonwatch; tomorrow is my birthday... hmm
I see the chancers are already on Ebay selling the Swatch Moonswatch's for hundreds over retail.
I always have three watches on the go, two keepers and a random watch on rotation (currently a £30 steel Sekonda digital) I am tempted to bump that for a black moonswatch if I can get my hands on one at retail in the next couple of months.
@Kato - loving the Tudor on that rubber strap - that looks spot on!
I'm also very keen on the Moonswatch. I've seen some posts on Reddit and elsewhere that Swatch have confirmed these will be for sale online at some point in the future and that they are not a limited edition. Fingers crossed!
Hmm, a plastic, cheap quartz speedy doesn't do it for me. I feel like maybe I've lost touch with 'fun', but I'm just not excited by it. Maybe if it doesn't feel light, cheap and, well, plastic.... But I suspect it will.
Theres a new Vacheron Constantin store across from the Swatch store on Frederick Street in Edinburgh. Take your beer tokens and spend it in there instead of Swatch 😀
(admittedly they are attractive)
I really like that Swatch x Omega Moonwatch; tomorrow is my birthday hmm
Are they available tomorrow? Thought they weren’t available until the weekend?
I’m at Bond St tomorrow for some lung tests, if I recall correctly there’s a swatch shop right near there, maybe I’ll go take a quick detour before heading back to work.
Hoping the collab is not limited but suspect it will be, I'd have a Moonswatch if I can get hold of one, the price increase on the Speedy is currently out of reach and it'd tide me over until I can justify + I honestly like the design intent and collab approach between the two, it's kind of playful/cute imo.
I'm lucky enough that I can get to Carnaby St in about 35 minutes, and nerdy enough that this Speedy collab makes me excited, so I'm going to get up early to try and nab a Mercury model on Saturday.
I've read they're not a 'limited' run, in that they will produce more - but it'll be a bit like the silver snoopy models, 3 months of production and now rare as hens teeth.
Who knows, but I can't see them being a general Swatch SKU forever.
I really enjoy some of the details, they've clearly had a lot of fun designing these. The ultraman hands, the Project Alaska subdial hands, the saturn rings. Lots of lovely little flairs.
Hmm, a plastic, cheap quartz speedy doesn’t do it for me. I feel like maybe I’ve lost touch with ‘fun’, but I’m just not excited by it. Maybe if it doesn’t feel light, cheap and, well, plastic…. But I suspect it will.
FWIW, it's 'bioceramic' which is 2/3rs ceramic from memory, and 1/3rd plastic. So it's a bit more special than a literal plastic watch. But equally - it's £200 for a dot over 90 bezel. If that doesn't make you excited then it's understandable it's not the watch for you haha
it’s £200 for a dot over 90 bezel. If that doesn’t make you excited then it’s understandable it’s not the watch for you haha
I do get this... but equally, it shows how utterly bonkers watches are. A watch is 'special' because of a minute detail on a bezel.
Also limited to 2 per purchase. Pretty please Plyphon? 😂
I was going to go to Covent Garden tomorrow but decided against it. It does seem they will be released for sale online at some point so I’ll wait for the hype to die down
Its the sensible thing to do Kato, for all my tongue in cheek posting I've been burned by a plastic watch already this week. (It actually went to Jnr as a reward after he excelled in a school report).
Looks lovely, has some planet saving credence and historical value to it but I've 11(!) other watches that offer the same thing.
I just noticed I've scratched the Hardlex on my Arnie, I'm gutted 🙁
Really fancy the Moon Moonswatch having sold my genuine Speedmaster last year to clear some debt.
If any happens to be going to either the London or Edinburgh stores I would be grateful if you could pick me one up - Genuine request.
I just noticed I’ve scratched the Hardlex on my Arnie, I’m gutted
Should be cheap enough to replace no? Although I suppose it's a good chance to upgrade to a sapphire crystal if you're feeling more flush.
Ill be in Edinburgh tomorrow. Might pop by Swatch to physically see them.
FYI IF i was going to get one, id go for Sun or Neptune. Have Mrs SSS with me, could get 4 😀 wonder if someone out there will buy all 10.
Now limited to one per person according to Swatch’s FB page. However, clear hint that they’ll be available online:
We are delighted to see the interest in the BIOCERAMIC MoonSwatch collection!
Due to the unexpected and phenomenal demand, we are obliged to update the purchase limit to one watch per person until further notice.
We will revert back to two watches per person as soon as possible.
The watches are not limited and will be available in selected Swatch Stores, with more opportunities to purchase in the coming weeks.
#MoonSwatch
#OMEGAXSwatch
And this is just idiocy. Folk desperate to get their hands on them, most likely to flip them for a profit: https://www.****/news/article-10653895/amp/MoonSwatch-frenzy-Chadstone-shopping-centre-customers-queue-hours.html





