Last week I bought (from a c u next tuesday ebay trader) a 55 plate petrol 1.6 auto Touran 1 owner FSH since owning it I have engine management light on faulty PCV valve change £60 general wear and tear part I guess, today I notice radiator leak only small but thats going to be the best part of £180 to replace.
I have tried speaking to the trader and he is not interested in helping out one bit even mentioned trading standards etc still unfazed to be honest I haven't got the energy or the inclination to deal with 4rse holes like that I have to many other life things going on. If he is unfazed by trading standards I really don't want to get on the wrong side of him people are crazy
There has to be an element of well its 7 yrs old it has 80000 miles things go wrong...
I have even spoken to the original owner just for piece of mind and he says what a great car it was now he has no reason to lie I didn't buy it off him(in fact he was a nice bloke)
Now do I get the radiator changed and then sell before something else brakes falls off etc ? or keep ?
In the 20 yrs of owning cars this is the 1st time anything like this has ever happened and I have had over 15 cars (lots of golfs) so I really am p1ssed about this...
Any thoughts would be great
NB I really am not going down the trading standards route my life is way to precious to deal with sh1t heads...
the joys of second hand cars I am afraid, I guess you didn't get any kind of vehicle inspection done prior to purchase.
maybe put it down to experience, if the rest of the car is OK not the end of the world surely spending out £200 the get it sorted.
Have you tries dropping a raw egg into the rad 😉
no inspection ! £3800 of hard earned cash !
raw egg is a short term fix apparently and I wouldnt waste a perfectly good egg on it !
like I said put it down to experience not much else you can do if it was a sold as seen deal - what's the ebay rules on car sales??
I suppose your options:
1)fix it and move on, enjoy new vehicle.
2)Don't bother sell it on and get someone else threatening to batter you for selling a faulty vehicle
I have bought loads of second hand cars and generally you have to be prepared for a few things to be repaired/replaced.
It was a good deal I guess so you chose not to buy one from a dealer that offers warranty etc
It's a couple of hundred quid on a 7 year old car, doesn't sound like unreasonable wear and tear. Maybe that's why the chap is not phased
the trader was home-based so therefore no warranty...
Funny thing is the trader and the original owner live within miles of each other so the car tally's up with the whole description etc I even spoke to the VW garage that serviced the car !
Most things are unrelated. So just because the radiator has a leak doens't mean anything else is necessarily going to go wrong with it. Spend a couple of hundred quid and you'll have a 7 year old 80k mile Touran with a new radiator.
Is there no Touran radiators in scrapyards?
unfitgeezer - MemberIn the 20 yrs of owning cars this is the 1st time anything like this has ever happened and I have had over 15 cars (lots of golfs) so I really am p1ssed about this...
Honestly? Stuff goes wrong, it was bound to happen to one of your cars sooner or later. You can't get upset just because a long good run ends.
to true I cant get upset but I am !
I didn't expect to pay out more money otherwise I would have spent more in the 1st place...
the trader was home-based so therefore no warranty...
Not relevant...if he is in trade he has to comply with the sale of goods act, etc. You have rights for the first 6 months of purchase, the fault is assumed to be there at the time of purchase.
Contact consumer direct for advice, most 'consumer rights' threads on STW are ill informed and not helpful... 😉
http://www.oft.gov.uk/consumer-advice/oft-and-cd/
HTH
I didn't expect to pay out more money otherwise I would have spent more in the 1st place...
Wouldn't have made any difference! You'd have just ended up buying a more expensive car and then having to fix something, just as likely. No guarantees in this business.
thanks NW Alps Jeyer aka Boz
already spoken to them and they wanted his address etc I didn't give it to them...someone else can do that cos he's bound to sell a car to someone that will either get angry with him or shop him...I only need/want good karma (carma) in mylife
"Sold as Seen" is only valid from one trader to another - they are deemed to be "knowledgeable", it's an offence to supply a vehicle to a private individual on those terms.
Been there last year with the same thing and he changed his tune when "informed" of that little nugget....
TBF, I'd be a little browned off about it too but a couple of hundred quid of repairs isn't too awful considering what can happen when buying a used car. You've had a good run so far!
already spoken to them and they wanted his address etc I didn't give it to them...someone else can do that cos he's bound to sell a car to someone that will either get angry with him or shop him...I only need/want good karma (carma) in mylife
Surely the good carma would come from helping other buyers avoid unlicensed obligation-dodging car dealers?
(I'm not saying that there would have necessarily in this case been any obligation on the dealer even if he were registered licensed etc)
Bingo.
Why are you asking what to do when the best advice is ignored due to, of all daft things, karma?
He may not be a registered trader, in which case he could be stiffing mugs on a daily basis. And dodging his tax liabilities.
Man up and act.
I really don't want to get on the wrong side of him people are crazy
And while you are at it, have a look in Lost Property for your testicles.
It's a second hand car. Unreasonable to expect it to be as new. If there was no risk why would anyone spend x5 (estimate) what you have on a new one?
Either splash the cash or accept the disadvantages of paying peanuts.
"Sold as Seen" is only valid from one trader to another - they are deemed to be "knowledgeable", it's an offence to supply a vehicle to a private individual on those terms.
Been there last year with the same thing and he changed his tune when "informed" of that little nugget....
Really ? I've never heard this. Sold as seen means the buyer is responsible for checking the vehicle. It would be perfectly reasonable for the trader to be un-aware of a radiator leak, in fact it's possible the leak occurred after the OP bought the car.
Personally I'd get the car fixed and checked over then make a decision. However, bear in mind it's going to look very odd you selling it on after such a short period.
You have bought a 7 year old car with 80k miles and thought it would be as good as new?
Yes if you bought from a main dealer and paid dealership prices I would hope they would be a little more understanding, but the fact is you bought from a small independant, online because the car was much cheaper than else where. You can't have your cake and eat it!
Sold as Seen" is only valid from one trader to another - they are deemed to be "knowledgeable", it's an offence to supply a vehicle to a private individual on those terms.
Been there last year with the same thing and he changed his tune when "informed" of that little nugget....
Me too. I bought a Cherokee years and years ago and the air con compressor had gone (£900) and it was sold without warranty (from a main dealer) on the basis it was 'trade price'. I rant trading standards and anyone who is blatantly trading had to comply with the SOG Act. If this guy has a history of selling cars on ebay and you can prove it your local trading standards will be interested in speaking to him.
Wigan Council has a policy now where you can't display cars for sale on the street if you're a trader. there were little dealers selling cars using them price tags that hang from the visor, as if it was in a garage, on street corners, bits of land etc and it was outlawed because most of the complaints were about individuals selling cars claiming to be individuals when the were blatantly dealing in cars from home
Doesn't matter if hes a home trader or not. Is he declaring his income to HMRC? They might be interested if this turns nasty.
Post it here- its happened a few times: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/forum.asp?h=0&f=10&mid=70159 (if you want I could post it up and you watch the replies?)
Seriously DONT put your hand in your pocket. The issue is when these things happened. How long after the purchase did this issues arise?
You have bought a 7 year old car with 80k miles and thought it would be as good as new?
There is also this ^ so you can't just quote fit for purpose etc.
quick question, has the cambelt been changed? (If the FSI? has one?). If it has a cambelt its well overdue.
Its chain driven so no belts to change
I`d just get it fixed and keep it.If you bought it from a dealer,I bet he will still have made a decent margin on it which you will lose as soon as you sell it.
I`d get it checked over by a good independent garage for peace of mind,though.
IF its within three months I most certainly would not put my hand in my pocket alone. It sounds like you have numerous issues. What if when removing the radiator the mechanic discovers a linked additional issue thats MORE money?
Read the following:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Governmentcitizensandrights/Consumerrights/Buyingacar-yourconsumerrights/DG_183047
The price page also seems to be within the range so the Trader can't say he gave it you extra cheap:
At the very least he needs to offer a contribution IF its within the 3months.
I have now spoken to the trader all polite etc he has agreed to pay £100 towards cost of Radiator.
We spoke about trading standards and he said that the two issues were wear and tear parts...