I suspect they'll be worth too much to do that. They'll be straight off for recycling.It will be interesting to see how many functional batteries are sitting in breakers yards in another five years time.
You missed the point though, you can get a new* battery from Nissan for a Leaf on what is effectively finance, for less than the cost of running a petrol car. So you could buy a bangernomics Leaf, and be quids in even though there's a big outgoing to Nissan.
*or maybe they'll re-circulate the s/h ones too once there's more in circulation
Facts, not insinuation
That would require getting my phone out to video the clouds of smoke coming from the Passat I followed down the M4 last week. Was that you, you seem quite defensive? 😛
That would require getting my phone out to video the clouds of smoke coming from the Passat I followed down the M4 last week.
So all Passats emit clouds of smoke? I missed that.
Or maybe it's just faulty ones, perhaps with knackered turbos?
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Good effort though for trying to shoehorn Brexit into every thread.
Thanks, but your lack of a "P" means we don't take your thoughts seriously
Ha ha ha! That coming from a man who can't eat a bag of minstrels without feeling sick and not being able to sleep! What does your "P" stand for? Piss weak?
Arse
Ahh the retort.
Bit later than I expected.
Nice.
****ed turbos an amateur tuners who over fuel - the corner stone of the vag modifiers.
If they are going to offer such a scheme it should be biased to pick out the vehicles which contribute the most
Based upon location and mileage, rather than a blunt incentive
Many be increase fuel duty within the most affected areas + more emission controls
id be quite happy if they made citys diesel free zones tbh.
id be quite happy if they made citys [s]diesel[/s] [b]combustion engine[/b] free zones tbh.
^ My opinion
id be quite happy if they made citys [s]diesel[/s] car free zones tbh
Mildly concerned because we have a 21yr old diesel camper van (which admittedly isn't allowed into several German cities).
Not sure making a whole city car free is viable.
The central centre square km or so should be that's for sure . Such as Ghent - Bruges - Alkmaar - den gelder arnhem
Then you use the park and ride or ride your bike in from an outer location.
It's what I do with Aberdeen now. Ride my bike into the village and take the bus into the centre.
That's what I mean. City centre, but a decent swathe of it, not just a couple of streets.
If the lottery coughs up tonight, I'll be putting in my order for one of these tomorrow!
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Not sure I'd want that. Doors open funny.
Welcome enlightened one 🙂
Probably best not to google 'model x' though.
RE: the fleet problem mentioned earlier.
My employer has approx 3,000 diesel vans and trucks aged from 1 to 15 years old, so the full range of Euro categories and pollution levels. The cheapest vehicle to replace is £40k, the most expensive is £300k (all custom built, not standard, like most large fleets) so they are only replaced when the old ones die through an MOT failure. As they take a while to come through from ordering the new ones go to our London bases due to the Low Emission Zone banning most of the older vehicles. These older vehicles get spread around the country so the pollution is spread around, as it were. If other towns and cities banned the higher polluting vehicles we would be stumped! Other transport companies would be in the same boat so the changing of a company's fleet will not be quick!
As for the mix of fleet and private diesels in cities, from my observations I'd say the mix in Cardiff during the week is 40% commercial traffic (buses, trucks, vans), 15% taxis (vast majority diesel, one or two Priuses), 20% private diesels (MPV's, SUV's, 4x4's, big saloons mainly), 20% petrol and the remaining 5% on bikes and motorbikes. Which does beg the question about what people will trade in their diesels for? Are all these people running around in their diesel MPV, SUV and 4x4's going to trade for a petrol with it's worse fuel consumption? Downsize to a small petrol car? Electric cars are currently too expensive for the average person so what will they buy? I hope this will be the push that people in general need to buy smaller, more efficient vehicles more suited to their use and end the obsession with cars as big status symbols.
Not sure I'd want that. Doors open funny.
the rear doors really put me off. Means you can't put a surf board/kayak/bike on the roof. Admittedly that means it stops people killing the range with drag but I would have just rather they saved money and complexity.
The seating options in the rear are quite good though. You can have 2 electric luxury seats in the middle row or a conventional 3 seat middle or miss out the rear 2 smaller seats. I think my ideal would be 2 middle seats and no rear seats, I could then fit a nice dog bed in the gap between the seats or stand a bike up in the middle.
Although even with the triple middle row and the rear twin seats in (but folded) you can still get a bike in whole. They are huge.
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The guy in the Tesla store asked if I could just use a trailer for my kayak and surfboard 😕
