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If I take A chainsaw into the forest to clear some fallen trees and I get seen by the man from the forest service whats gonna happen ? Am I breaking any laws ?


 
Posted : 16/11/2011 5:22 pm
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If i take a hand saw to your house and saw off the broken leg on your armchair and I get seen by you whats gonna happen ? Am I breaking any laws ?


 
Posted : 16/11/2011 5:28 pm
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yes, without landowner permission it's theft, forestry commission will go mad..


 
Posted : 16/11/2011 5:28 pm
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just ride over/around them.


 
Posted : 16/11/2011 5:30 pm
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if i throw a brick through your window and have your telly even if its switched off will that be ok..


 
Posted : 16/11/2011 5:30 pm
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Depends who spots you - if they're able to see you're making a right-of-way passable, by clearing dead stuff, therby saving them a job, you're OK. If you get a jobsworth, then its criminal damage to property.


 
Posted : 16/11/2011 5:30 pm
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Chopping down a tree? Criminal damage.

You're taking the wood? Then it's theft.


 
Posted : 16/11/2011 5:31 pm
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clear some fallen trees

Depends what you mean by this. If you mean cut up and take away,then its straight theft.

If you mean clear some trails, then it different - they will still 'go mad' but couldnt make criminal damage stick unless they can show you did harm to live trees that still had a chance etc.


 
Posted : 16/11/2011 5:34 pm
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By clearing the trail I mean cutting A 3ft gap in the fallen trees , not cutting down live trees or taking any wood out of the forest


 
Posted : 16/11/2011 6:01 pm
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I'd not recommend it. Noise attracts attention. A good handsaw, however, is a lot stealthier.....


 
Posted : 16/11/2011 6:07 pm
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Just put on a hi-viz vest. You'll be invisible.


 
Posted : 16/11/2011 6:20 pm
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Use a handsaw better an a chainsaw good suggestion who ever said it
an other matter dont post these things I tend just to do them.

As long as the wood is dead no probs and stack it in a nice pile


 
Posted : 16/11/2011 6:30 pm
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if you cut small sections out of the tree then you could be making the FC lose out on revenue. Typically the trees would be cut to certain lengths depending what the end purpose would be ie furniture, paper mill etc. Small bits that didn't fit the criteria would get left in the trash piles.

PS wouldn't reccommend it now. We had permission a few years ago about this time to collect some offcuts for firewood etc. Some local called the police and reported we were nicking loads of Christams trees, had helicopters and 4x4s come and find us!


 
Posted : 16/11/2011 6:38 pm
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Fallen or felled trees? As in been done by old mother nature or mr stihl?


 
Posted : 16/11/2011 6:43 pm
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The trees are windblown . They would take ages to cut by hand !


 
Posted : 16/11/2011 8:17 pm
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And been down for A few years


 
Posted : 16/11/2011 8:18 pm
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Its obvious to go to the owner and ask them if ok
not here 🙄


 
Posted : 16/11/2011 8:20 pm
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if you don't have the proper qualifications and a written permission Mr FE man will be properly annoyed. Wind blow requires an extra ticket to your 3 day plain felling ticket so I'd say stay away.

It can be under all sorts of stresses and can do strange and violent things as you cut thru and release the twists etc.

If its on a path, let the ranger service know and they'll deal with it.


 
Posted : 16/11/2011 8:26 pm
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get on with it, we do it all the time, building dh tracks, who's going to say anything when you've got a chainsaw in hand !


 
Posted : 16/11/2011 8:55 pm
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looked into this,came to the conclusion an electric chainsaw would get a lot less attention due to less noise.but then they don't really have that much power,so I decided to not bother,and found some new(and better) trails.


 
Posted : 16/11/2011 11:44 pm
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Theres a thread on here that shows a hand operated chainsaw. 2 man pull pull operation. Also start the job with an axe then finish with a decent handsaw. Look under "winter a good time to trim a branch or two" and dont give up just coz its hard!


 
Posted : 17/11/2011 9:46 am
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Can get through a 10-12" branch nae bother.


 
Posted : 17/11/2011 10:08 am
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Someone I know (no not me) regularly trims trail paths in our local woods. In the main he's trimming back brambles but has been known to build little bridges (about 2ft long over old tractor ruts and drainage ditches) and cut trees down that have broken branches that obstruct path and trail. He's been caught doing it a few times and had Hampshire CC on to him for "wilful damage" Quite what exactly that means is moot, but they've not prosecuted, but they do know who he is (obviously) The woods are used by dog walkers and walker/hinderers and us lot, no one from that bunch has complained about the work he's done, in fact they’ve been supportive as it aids their movement through the woods.

Last June the FComm, funded by Hampshire CC, cut down a large section of old pine trees on the top of a hill over looking a sub station. The reasoning was the pine trees were overgrown and limiting the growth of the undergrowth. This has had a dramatic effect on the area, to the point it took a look of baldness to it. There was a small petition and objection started up by a local(ish) resident. The objection to what had been done (too late we know, but we didn't know they were doing it) got filed and we all got a letter explaining the consequences to wildlife/nature etc. if they did nothing. They have stated however the next phase of tree felling is to start in May next year and any objections are to be raised with the FComm and not Hants CC. So we’ve already started the same petition, early this time.

The upshot of all this is a huge amount of logs and tree trunks littering the place. Some of the large stuff has been stacked in rows and looks like it’ll be used for winter fuel sell off. The little stuff however is just lain waste on the ground. So, my mate has started to pile this stuff up alongside one of the access points to the woods and in so doing has created a bit of a store. Some locals are now coming over with saws and vans and taking these branches away with them. As yet no one from the Fcomm nor Hants CC has objected, even though FComm are still working in the woods. My mate knows some of the “tree fellas” and I think they’re turning a blind eye to it all for sure he’s no authority to do what he’s doing, but he is adding to the area, quite happy to spend days on end doing this job for nothing....


 
Posted : 17/11/2011 10:45 am
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A friend has a holiday home in darkest Mid-Wales and we go there quite a bit out of season in exchange for mowing the lawn, painting the fence, cleaning the windows etc.

It's in a small village surrounded by conifer forests and the locals seem to take it pretty much for granted that they can cut down what they want, throw it in their Subaru pickups and take it home. No-one bats an eyelid and I can't say I blame them every house has a log fire.


 
Posted : 17/11/2011 11:31 am
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FC bylaws are pretty damn strict. You can't even play a flute on their land if they think it disturbs someone.


 
Posted : 17/11/2011 11:47 am
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Oh, and if it is a FC site, they request that all dead wood be left to rot naturally.


 
Posted : 17/11/2011 11:52 am
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Fallen trees blocking trails in the Wyre Forest have been know to move overnight. 😉


 
Posted : 17/11/2011 11:55 am
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Fallen trees blocking trails in the Wyre Forest have been know to move overnight.

Whoever moved the one off Secret Garden had a big saw. 😯


 
Posted : 17/11/2011 6:20 pm
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That wasn't me, which is not to imply that some of the others were. [img] [/img]


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 2:44 am
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Do you really want to burn larch or spruce on your fire or in your stove? They contain lots of resin, which will produce tar and creosote in the flue.

better to grit your teeth and try to find a tree surgeon who can supply decent seasoned hardwoods, preferably ash.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 8:16 am
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Do you really want to burn larch or spruce on your fire or in your stove? They contain lots of resin, which will produce tar and creosote in the flue.

Don't entirely agree. Season it for a year and you should be fine, though the spruce will still burn out very fast. Not awful to use, but you'll be spending a lot of time filling the log basket if you do.

I'd agree that ash is far better, though it can be expensive. I tend to go with a hardwood/softwood mix, which I get unseasoned and unsplit. Costs me a bit under £20 per tonne, and takes me a day per tonne to saw/split/stack.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 8:22 am
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You'll be spotted using a saw on FE land for sure. Because the FE chainsaw folks will all be sitting in a van somewhere waiting for the rain to stop / start. Actually [i]working[/i] in an FE forest will be a dead giveaway.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 8:30 am
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MtG -
Same thing can happen with trees up my way mate. Storm damage can leave them in some funny places as well.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 11:08 am
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Piles of dirt have a tendancy to gather on the uphill side of trees, in a pleasing "natuaral kicker" shape


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 6:31 pm
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funny that theres a fallen tree on a really good trail that might just magically move on sunday afternoon 😉


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 7:55 pm
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Magic works well and keep the secrets safe. Do it, don't get caught and say nowt.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 9:59 pm