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My mum wants to replace her aging aluminium patio doors with upvc to match the new conservatory and rear windows, done in light oak.

She's got a few prices in, ranging from £700-1500.

What profiles are the good ones there days in upvc? I fit loads of windows and doors but they're mainly cheap ones or grp doors and I don't know much about sliding doors. Back in the day you could just order rehau with yale locks and be confident it would last almost a lifetime. There are so many profiles nowadays and I don't trust most of the places that make them up!

She's in St.Helens if you know any suppliers around that area, i'm on the other side of manchester.

She already knows to get dead locks and anti bump cylinders. I assume they still re-enforce them too?

Any experiences?


 
Posted : 30/06/2010 10:47 am
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Anyone?


 
Posted : 30/06/2010 1:49 pm
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Rehau


 
Posted : 30/06/2010 7:37 pm
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some good systems are system 10 and veka theres another 1 i use a fair bit but i cant remember the name atm :S

avoid duraflex at all costs builders tell you its good to improve there profits but its awful flimsy rubbish. Even good quality window systems can be made poorly as i have seen.

If you PM me sizes i can try and get you a quote off the guy i use there good quality and fair price i have fitted plenty being a double glazing installer.


 
Posted : 30/06/2010 8:06 pm
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I'd stick with the aluminium ones myself.

Why does she want to change them?


 
Posted : 30/06/2010 8:13 pm
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They're about 30 years old now, the hardwood frame has started to rot at the bottom and both units have failed too. Plus they're not that secure either and they don't match!

She's had a quote in from the guys she originally got the aluminium ones from for around 1k, she said they use slider system or something similar


 
Posted : 30/06/2010 8:34 pm
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I remember visiting a factory in Greenock who make these but using timber - it's pressure treated and lasts better than upvc they told me. Was very very nice looking, might be worth a look - if I can find their site I'll post it up...


 
Posted : 30/06/2010 9:33 pm
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For aluminium Schuco are very good (but very expensive, and generally commercial).

You might also want to consider sliding folding doors as you can basically open up the end of the house.

Make sure in addition to being anti bump, the lock is anti snap.


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 7:02 am
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Funky, I live near Whiston Hospital and we got Rainhill UPVC to replace all of our windows & doors last year. Impressed with the product & the job, they fitted a sliding patio door that they described as "secure by design", which I think is a standard that is produced. Has a standard lock but also two push through bolts that really make the door quite secure. Also got tempered glass fitted.
Got to be honest I'm not sure of brand etc.
They're local enough to be able to quote your mum if she lives in St Helens.


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 7:49 am
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Cheers frontal, she only lives round the corner from eccleston park station. I know rainhill upvc actually, think he lives on longton lane, or did anyway.

She's getting them from AWC in tellins now. She knows the guys who own the place, they were very old friends of my dad and did the originals. She only found out yesterday that they started doing plastic now.

Getting aluminium to match the rest would be double the price and she's probably nothi to a smaller house in the next few years anyway.

Thanks for the replies


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 8:01 am
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St helens glass has the class!

Can't help sorry.


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 8:22 am
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Ha, worked for them for a few years selling when I was about 19-20.

They shut down years ago


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 8:25 am
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Doors need safety glass in, so laminated or toughened. Best comprimise for security is a leaf of each in the door.

Secure by design isn't a 'standard' as such, but a Police force initiative. Doors are tested (to PAS24) and either pass and are classed as secure by design, or they fail.

Individual parts of the door e.g. the lock can be part of the tested door, but cannot be 'secure by design' on their own, so adding a lock that's been in a test and passed, doesn't make the door secure by design.

Sorry, boring ain't it!


 
Posted : 01/07/2010 5:51 pm