[Closed] UNIX, Networks - talk to me

Do you mean Networks of Unix computers or networking on Unix?

Networks (IP etc) is an orthogonal topic to Unix the Operating system.

Oh dear gods. That's a can o'worms if ever I saw one.

What parts of Unix and networks are you looking to learn about? If it's general *nix sysadmin, then there are a couple of decent books about ("The underground guide to unix" is not a bad choice ([url= http://www.bookdepository.com/Underground-Guide-Unix-John-Montgomery/9780201406535 ]http://www.bookdepository.com/Underground-Guide-Unix-John-Montgomery/9780201406535[/url]), but you may want to consider something that is more specific to the type of Unix that you'll be using.

Networks, go for a broad but shallow tome on TCP/IP or similar (O'Reilly does good ones) and then look for books specific to the platform that you are using (Windows or Unix) for config/management tips. O'Reilly are usually my goto for reference. They do bundles for Kindle on Unix, Perl, that sort of thing which are good.

I know it's not on-line and I don't know how up to date it is, but I read this ohhhhh more years than I care to remember and have been working in Networks since:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Computer-Networks-Andrew-S-Tanenbaum/dp/0132126958

How in depth do you want to get?

Cisco qualifications are always worth while and if you read the books rather than been a CCpdf, you will learn some useful skills.

With that said, if you get serious about things, don't by afraid to learn about other vendors other than Cisco.

Unix, tried that once, interesting stuff, but didn't click for me....but if you can pick up some scripting, always useful.

he he the Tanenbaum book was my set book for the topic at university. It was good.. may still have it lurking in the bookshelf somewhere..

Dammit! I have that Tanenbaum book on my shelf here. Own up, who has the Stroustrup C++ book as well?

nah, just a battered K&R C (not the 2nd edition). That any use ? 🙂

Dammit! I have that Tanenbaum book on my shelf here. Own up, who has the Stroustrup C++ book as well?

C++ hadn't been invented when I went to University and Ethernet was still coax based!

Linux (RHEL or Debian / Ubuntu) is a better shout these days if it's for employment purposes, plus you can get to a very good level for nothing - everything you need is downloadable. IP networks, UUCP won't be of much use other than in pissing contests with other geeks. Learning v6 now is a good idea, just in case it ever happens 😉

Before you get flamed
Linux is not UNIX
{But to all intents and purposes it is you just must never say it :-)}

Are there any decent resources online to learn about UNIX and Networks?

Yeah tons. I'm a Solaris admin and a large chunk of my job is just googling stuff. I basically get by on that and finger muscle memory. 😉

The great thing about unix is how elegant the command line is, it can be daunting at first, but persevere, it gets easier.

I'd suggest installing a Linux VM and setting yourself some challenges or give yourself a project like building a home NAS.

Own up, who has the Stroustrup C++ book as well?

I have a signed copy...

I also have The Elements of Programming Style

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and Software Tools (the one in RatFor)

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Ethernet was still coax based!

That takes me back to drilling holes into cable to install a tap point around 1985.

I'd either:

1)Build a small network (2 machines should get you started), build one as a server (Ubuntu) and one as client (Ubuntu again), and just experiment

or

2)Build them as virtual machines on a biggish box if you have access to such a thing

He (Stroustrup) came to Cambridge to do a talk a couple of years ago and we were keen on going there en masse, but the idea got canned when one of our team said that, if he went, it would be specifically to throw things at him.

He did not like C++ at all. Oddly, he though Perl was awesome.

Thanks all.

Good place this.

That takes me back to drilling holes into cable to install a tap point around 1985.

He did not like C++ at all. Oddly, he thought Perl was awesome.

/waves/

[quote=brassneck ]Linux is not UNIX

<geek> ahem, that's gnu</geek>

[quote=codybrennan ]I'd either:
2)Build them as virtual machines on a biggish box if you have access to such a thing

Don't need a very big box at all to do that - I have Proxmox* running as a test server on an X200 here and regularly have several VMs networking together running on that. Alternatively and decently powerful home PC should be capable of running a couple of VMs under VirtualBox (which is what I always used to use before I set up the Proxmox server).

* though I suppose Proxmox [b]is[/b] Linux (Debian) and it helps to know a bit of Linux/Unix networking to set that up"

Agreed. I have a not very chunky i5 box under my desk that has several disks in and is happy running VirtualBox. and a load of linux VMs.

It just seems to work, which is nice, apart from Security Onion, which doesn't like the setup I have. I do have to ask myself if my home network really needs an IDS though. I mean, Kali, yes, but other stuff?

Big is relative; I've no idea what the OP has re h/w (if any). Was just covering myself.

Of course, but just pointing out that big doesn't mean a server, or anything close to that - not for Proxmox (other virtualisation management systems are available) which is designed to run on a "server", let alone Virtualbox which isn't. I don't suppose anybody would describe my Core2 X200 as "biggish" though" (given that's 64 bit, it's close to minimum spec for that). I note that the performance is rubbish running Proxmox under VirtualBox or vice versa though as it doesn't seem possible to have a VM with hardware virtualisation (yes I've tried 😳 )

Going way OT though, has the OP been back to clarify what he's doing?

I've been advised to learn a bit about AIX and possibly only possibly Oracle TRAC (sp?).