The truth is gradually filtering back to Russia, it’s just too big to hide.
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1504231309195026434?s=20&t=DTmnEK4e-O9fTGWZcizPRQ
(Although the film crew arent being arrested)
Yes, one of the most frustrating things back in the 90s was American triumphalism. No doubt, the West won the Cold War (or, more accurately I think, the USSR destroyed itself), but the gloating about it was counter-productive. It just alienated countries that had just become potential friends and allies. I think it also led to the Iraq catastrophe, where the Bush administration believed all the nonsense that freedom would flourish if the jackboot of the oppressor was lifted. I think the Biden administration is much more restrained than past administrations but I can imagine Republican presidential hopefuls competing to outdo each other on the glories of capitalism and the American way. If one of those clowns wins the next election, they will probably alienate all the potential friends around the world who saw the U.S. acting in a much more humble and restrained manner this time around. And they will do it deliberately because their voters will think that antagonizing foreign countries is the purpose of foreign policy.
https://twitter.com/AmitavAcharya/status/1504251881358602250
I recon Putin is insincere with his demands for "peace". One of the demands is the Denazification of Ukraine ? So I demand "You massage my Ego and prove that I was right to start the war!". Completely bonkers.
@ 1:20 just as the smoke cleats a bag is thrown to the guy left agonising at the side of the road.
Was it a bag or something falling back down from the explosion of the tank- a body?
When you hear anybody talking about the Russian Elite Airborne troops, THIS YouTube vid shows them reacting to an ambush.
Now I was never infantry trained, but what I did do still shows we how this is shambolic.
Hmmm. Partial win for Putin. He gets the south and a land bridge... Keeps poking Kyiv with missiles from the black sea to force a peace solution.
The forces in the north are aside show or distraction.
Ukraine forfeits the south and the west pays for reconstruction.
How far into Russian and Belarusia do standard tv and fm radio signals travel?
People in places like St Petersburg and Kaliningrad must be able to tune in to outside signal. Or does Russia jam the signals.
Was it a bag or something falling back down from the explosion of the tank- a body?
A human torso, apparently. I haven't watched the video in detail to check, but that's what I heard.
Was it a bag or something falling back down from the explosion of the tank- a body?
Yup, body. Longer clip elsewhere showing a second tank being attacked behind the first one.
Most likely the torso got flung there as the guy was climbing out and the tank got hit.
Quite a detailed "review" of the footage on reddit.
I recon Putin is insincere with his demands for “peace”.
Of course he's insincere. "Negotiations" are just a gambit to stall for time.
Ukraine is winning the war in the sense that they aren't being overrun the way we assumed they would. Ukraine has the sympathy of the world and will receive regular weapons shipments and economic aid. Russia is basically bankrupt and its troops are starving and burning through equipment fast. Ukraine now looks to have a good chance of routing the Russian forces so they won't be in any mood to concede anything in negotiations. The only settlement that Ukraine will be interested in is all Russian troops out of Ukraine, including Crimea. There may be a ceasefire or frozen conflict if Russia withdraws its forces back to Russia but keeps fighting for Crimea. That would be a ceasefire, not a peace treaty. Ukraine is not going to sign a peace treaty that cedes any territory to Russia. On top of that, Ukraine will not sign a treaty without an enforceable guarantee that Russia will not invade again. In reality, the only organization that can enforce that guarantee is NATO, so Ukraine is not going to accept any Russian idea that Ukraine should declare neutrality and trust in Russia's good intentions.
I don't know if this Twitter account has been posted before - Kamil Gallen
Kamil seems to cover a lot of relevant Russian & Ukrainian subjects and seems well informed.
https://twitter.com/Joanna_Szostek/status/1503869213718556673?s=20&t=soo0PHJf9_ve6u3oFWieoA
If true, grim. Bearing in mind most of the Nazi slander is propaganda to justify actions.
Would also make rolling over and accepting occupation a non starter for many.
On Neo Nazis
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51236915
A video posted online in March 2019 shows Nazzaro in Russia wearing a t-shirt bearing an image of President Vladimir Putin along with the words "Russia, absolute power".We traced Nazzaro and his Russian wife to an upmarket property in central St Petersburg purchased in her name in July 2018 - the same month to which the FBI dates the creation of The Base.
Here’s a slightly different perspective:
It's a weird time for Leftie anti US imperialists. Your whole adult life defined by the fact that it's almost invariably the US being a shit to anyone and everything, It must be pretty disorientating that other countries can be just as imperialistic and shitty to their neighbours, and perhaps somehow worse when it turns out to be the Russians
It's fair to say that somewhere in the rubble of every flash point and conflict the dead hand of US state officials is almost by default (money) present. They have some hand in it somewhere that one can point at and exclaim "A-ha, I knew it". But here, this war I think in all honesty you can fairly lay the blame at the feet of a mafia autocrat who's nose was put out when NATO sent him a rude note about his invasion of Ukraine, and his puppet leader was sent packing by the public mob. It's no more complex or dastardly than that.
This line in that article :
The first U.S.-backed soft coup in Ukraine occurred in 2004, when Western-backed presidential candidate Viktor Yushchenko lost the election.
Is an interesting one, and while is totally true, fails to mention anywhere the attempt on his life by Dioxin poisoning - One of most heavily reported aspects of the whole election campaign (let's pause for a moment and reflect on which world leader is famous for preferring to use poisons to eliminate people they don't want around), Which you have to agree is a somewhat lax bit of reportage, and fails to mention also that while the US and EU supported Yushchenko, the Kremlin heavily supported Yanukovych (who the article stretches credulity a bit by calling "neutral")
It’s already being reported as happening in Kherson and other ‘liberated’ places. The nazis called these groups ‘einsatzgruppen’. They would come in after the combat troops to do the dirty work of pacifying the civilian population. In the nazis case they also engaged in mass murder, but I think the Russians will be more about control, and possibly detaining the senior local leaders, who they will replace with their own.
It feels as if talk of peace is to allow the Russian army to regroup. The most sensible suggestion I’ve seen so far is they want to push down from Kharkiv and up from Mariupol to cut off a big chunk of Ukraines army in the East. Ukraine I think remains in a very perilous position.
Can anyone explain why Russia is not using cruise missiles to take out Government buildings in Kyiv? Especially as Zelensky appears to be working from there still.
Can anyone explain why Russia is not using cruise missiles to take out Government buildings in Kyiv?
Apparently Kyiv is actually older than the Soviet Union and to demolish it would go down badly back home.
I kinda doubt Zelensky is in his usual office.
Can anyone explain why Russia is not using cruise missiles to take out Government buildings in Kyiv? Especially as Zelensky appears to be working from there still.
They are, launched from aircraft within Russia
https://twitter.com/AnonOpsSE/status/1504108384177594388?t=q_etCwy0twzliXH2AjrGQw&s=19
https://twitter.com/KyleJGlen/status/1504020216304615431?t=k8tUw-inBg6Q8iCWaeqiSg&s=19
Apparently Kyiv is actually older than the Soviet Union and to demolish it would go down badly back home.
You’d think Putin’s use of his (claimed) support of the Orthodox Church to bolster his own support would stop him flattening Kyiv… but we all know he’d happily level it to the ground, and blame everyone else for him doing so. Early on in the war there was very interesting footage of all the work the Ukrainians were doing to try and protect historical buildings and artefacts in the city.
https://twitter.com/rafsanchez/status/1504462685395693574
https://twitter.com/rafsanchez/status/1504465394358231040
Having watched numerous drone videos of Russian tanks being destroyed by what appears to be artillery I’m starting to think that the Ukrainians are using their drones as forward observers. I could be (and probably am) wrong but even with a consumer drone, when flying you are shown the coordinates of where the drone is, if the drone operator is in contact with the artillery they could easily tell them “left a little bit, up a little bit”.
Having watched numerous drone videos of Russian tanks being destroyed by what appears to be artillery I’m starting to think that the Ukrainians are using their drones as forward observers
The drones are definitely being used for reconnaissance/guidance primarily with the PR videos being just a freebie on the back of it.
Ukraine I think remains in a very perilous position.
Yes despite the heavy Russian casulaties and KIA, the regular Ukrainian army is also suffering huge losses in fighting in the south and east. Some reports are suggesting that the Russian maybe in place to encircle them. That could a massive impact on Ukraine's ability to continue the ground war. Some experts are likening it to France in the 1940s when a series of separate French Army collapses caused a domino effect to other armies that were in theory still in the fight. Other experts again have suggested that Ukraine doesn't have that sort of morale problem, but the loss of a major part of their ground forces will almost certainly mean that they won't be able to push the Russians out of South Eastern Ukraine.
Desperate times
How far into Russian and Belarusia do standard tv and fm radio signals travel?
People in places like St Petersburg and Kaliningrad must be able to tune in to outside signal. Or does Russia jam the signals.
I don't know about TV but shortwave radio certainly can reach a long way into the country. For example, the BBC have resumed broadcasting the Russian language bit of the World Service on SW.
The BBC, CNN and I guess a few others gave instructions on how to access their content on the dark web before they were taken offline.
The content is there, it's a question of who can access it and who of those then believes it
I suspect the Ukrainians are just setting ambushes and using the drones to observe when the Russians turn up. It will be obvious which routes the Russian vehicles will have to take so they'll just set up concealed artillery for indirect fire targeted on a choke point, then use the drone to confirm when the Russian vehicles enter the kill zone.
Other experts again have suggested that Ukraine doesn’t have that sort of morale problem, but the loss of a major part of their ground forces will almost certainly mean that they won’t be able to push the Russians out of South Eastern Ukraine.
Desperate times
agreed
Putin seems quite happy to keep throwing men and equipment into this to grind down UA in a war of attrition, horrendous for the civillians caught up
……and horrendous for the “meat” in the grinder too. It’s WW1 style generalship.
Yeah, Insta and TicToc reels of successful anti-tank missions is one thing, but the Ukrainians have no real answer to endless artillery that's both heavy and indiscriminate - and probably just as bad going both ways. Meat grinder indeed.
Fact check please: Is there any truth at all to the 'Nazi' thing Russia are propagating? It seems completely unbelievable that a Jewish leader whose family were killed by Nazis would have come to power if so.
Where does it fall on the scale of completely fabricated <--> partially true <--> totally accurate?
Americas latest arms delivery includes 'kamikaze' drones intended to take out artillery, whether it would be enough, im not so sure
Large columns of very heavy & fuel guzzling T80 tanks T80 heading in to Ukraine, but having to make the 15 miles by road will use a shit tonne of fuel
https://twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1504754320251801637
And mud season is starting proper in ukraine
https://twitter.com/QueerArmorer/status/1504455071093952514
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/why-russias-t-80-tank-total-disaster-13550
Fact check please: Is there any truth at all to the ‘Nazi’ thing Russia are propagating? It seems completely unbelievable that a Jewish leader whose family were killed by Nazis would have come to power if so.
Where does it fall on the scale of completely fabricated <–> partially true <–> totally accurate?
Is there right wing extremism in Ukraine? Yes. Is there right wing extremism in the US, UK, Russia and every European country? Obviously yes. The Ukrainians have had an issue with the Azov brigade and other right wing extremists in the past, but they seem to be increasingly marginalised. In the case of Azov, they appear to have been incorporated into the mainstream UKr army which has undergone massive reforms and improvements since 2014 and are no longer allowed to be some kind of independent militia. I understand in their last elections, extreme right parties polled around 5%
It was suggested earlier in this thread, that Eastern European nations generally seem to have higher levels of racism than Western Europe, particularly the former colonial powers. Possibly due to having less culturally diverse populations. This sounds feasible to me. However, Ukraine is a democratic country that is a long way from Nazism. An unprovoked invasion of a sovereign country because you believe it has no right to exist as a nation state seems a bit more like old school national socialism to me.
Where does it fall on the scale of completely fabricated <–> partially true <–> totally accurate?
Low. Ukraine does have a bit of a Neo Nazi problem amongst the public, but not worse than in the rest of Eastern Europe. In 2019, all the far right groups came together to form an election coalition, and only won 2% of the vote. Seems to me that Hungary leans much more to the far-right.
Also in 2019, Ukraine was the only country besides Israel to have a Jewish president AND prime minister.
So there's enough there for conspiracy theorists to find stuff on social media and point to it as 'proof', but really it's just an excuse Putin is using to muddy the waters.
This article explains a bit more. Also has a graph suggesting that in fact, Ukraine is less anti-semitic than its Eastern European neighbours.
https://jewishunpacked.com/can-ukraine-have-a-nazi-problem-with-a-jewish-president/
The link @piemonster posted above. Absolutely chilling. Anyone else read that and think 'Einsatzgruppen'?
https://twitter.com/Joanna_Szostek/status/1503869213718556673?s=20&t=6yn0xb37Jk9-sazjMqCqHg
The Spectator's Russia correspondent, Owen Paterson (who seems to really know his stuff) is just being interviewed and said that he's been reliably informed that when Putin held that insane Security Council meeting only 3 people, including himself were aware that he actually planned to go ahead with the invasion. He is completely isolated and now apparently consults absolutely nobody before making these decisions
He also referenced China and said that they're unlikely to get involved in any support for Russia (though they won't openly condemn them) as they've been shocked by the effects of western companies withdrawing their services, ie: Apple and Googlepay, and Boeing and Airbus has had on the Russian economy. They don't want anything that might stifle economic growth and this certainly would, so the last thing they want is anything that might amount to a trade war with the west
Its a sad world we live in where the impact of war on finance is more important than the impact of war on lives.
They don’t want anything that might stifle economic growth and this certainly would, so the last thing they want is anything that might amount to a trade war with the west
Its a sad world we live in where the impact of war on finance is more important than the impact of war on lives.
Well it's one thing we do know for sure, like or loath the Chinese power house, they are not going to act against thier own interests to help russia, they make loads of products, and they need us to buy loads of products. Thier economy will quickly be in deep trouble if they have fewer consumers to sell thier products to, it's a symbiotic relatioship in that sense, and the Chinese will be acutley aware of that.
Having watched numerous drone videos of Russian tanks being destroyed by what appears to be artillery I’m starting to think that the Ukrainians are using their drones as forward observers. I could be (and probably am) wrong but even with a consumer drone, when flying you are shown the coordinates of where the drone is, if the drone operator is in contact with the artillery they could easily tell them “left a little bit, up a little bit”.
100+ years ago coordinating artillery attacks was extremely difficult. Scouting, map reading, ranging, trigonometry, battlefield communication, plus running improvements after the first volley.
But in 2022 I reckon I could do it all myself with a DJI mavic and google maps.
Its a sad world we live in where the impact of war on finance is more important than the impact of war on lives.
I know what you mean, but I think its just the case of using the tools you have at your disposal. Economic sanctions have had an enormous effect on Russia. Their economy is now absolutely ****ed!! The guy from the Spectator was saying how he'd witnessed people fighting in the shops for what little they have left in stock. Apparently the most prized possession is sugar as this is used to make their moonshine vodka
If there was anyone remotely sane in the Kremlin this would all be over by now. But Putin is clearly a madman. The Chinese have seen the effect that sanctions have had and decided that there is no way on earth that they're going to risk that. I think we need to just take that as a positive. Biden is meeting the Chinese this afternoon. I'm sure that this is the point he will be stressing to them, should they be wavering on the idea of providing any support to Russia, or having any ideas about Taiwan
I'd recommend listening to the interview with Owen Paterson on Five Live on BBC Sounds. It's fascinating. His family are Russian and he's lived in Moscow for years. He seems to be better informed than anyone else. Its certainly an interesting listen
All the people leaving the Moscow rally early - is that an attempt by anti-war types to leave the stadium embarrassingly empty? IIRC there was a gang of tik-tokers did this to Trump at one of his re-election events.
100's of FOO's just cried out in anguish at that statement.
100+ years ago coordinating artillery attacks was extremely difficult. Scouting, map reading, ranging, trigonometry, battlefield communication, plus running improvements after the first volley.
But in 2022 I reckon I could do it all myself with a DJI mavic and google maps.
^I mean, I probably couldn't do it fully properly. But I think I'd do it better than a WW1 expert with the advantage of cheap modern technology.
Where does it fall on the scale of completely fabricated <–> partially true <–> totally accurate?
Just to add beyond what others have said.
One of the reasons it gets put out there, is to erode support for Ukraine. Which is partly why I also linked to an article about a seemingly pro Putin RUSSIAN Neo Nazi leader.
There’s a photo doing the rounds of a senior member of the Wagner group, who appears to have SS tattoos.
Am I worried about Neo Nazis, very much so, but not more so about Ukrainian ones than Russian ones or any others.
Walking rounds to target is a fully valid way of correcting fire.
Drone position would be crucial though, imagine how threaders you'd be if you hit it? :p
"Can Ukraine have a ‘Nazi problem’ with a Jewish president?"
USA had a racism and white supremacy problem with a black president.
There’s a photo doing the rounds of a senior member of the Wagner group, who appears to have SS tattoos.
There's a big hint to the political orientation of the founders of the Wagner group in its name.
Even the UK has problems with the extreme right wing, see farage, EDL, even some factions within the Conservative Party.
It's all smoke and mirrors from putin.
*Kremlin: It’s Not Up to German Chancellor to Decide Who Should Lead Russia but Up to Russian People – RTRS
And so it should follow it's not up to Russia who should lead Ukraine.
I think my hypocrisy guage has broken. Maybe I can order some spare parts for it from from China.
Can Ukraine have a ‘Nazi problem’ with a Jewish president?
The thing with the claims about NAZIs is that it taps into Russian mythology about WW2. Russia suffered terribly in WW2 and beating the NAZIs is a rallying point for nationalists to distract from what a disastrous leader Stalin was. In this case, NAZIs doesn't literally mean NAZIs, it's just code for enemies of Russia. It's like how right-wing Americans denounce socialists and communists. The people they're talking about aren't actually socialists (even the ones who think they are socialists are not really socialists), it's just a term they use to rally their side against their enemies. Labelling Moslems as "Islamic terrorists" does the same thing.
I have yet to see a proper artillery barrage being used against a tank column
What i suspect is being done is the drones are being used as a fac and getting the route fed back to the ground assault troops. They then get to an ambush point, and use a missile or rpgs to destroy a single vehicle with little to no collateral damage
Saves re tarmaccing the road next montj after the Russia army has done one.
I have yet to see a proper artillery barrage being used against a tank column
There are some if you look around on Twitter, etc. Utterly brutal.
It works though, although it doesn't give you crosshairs on a screen to ID a position like some more purpose built ISTAR kit does, you could position the drone directly above your lead target vehicle & the rear plot on your map and work out the bearing line they're fixed along and away you go.
It's a slight modification of how you'd use something like a Desert Hawk or more specialist bit of kit to give you a grid.
Off the shelf kit is pretty damn good and with a bit of imagination, as we're seeing in this conflict, pretty damn effective.
Some of the anti-regime groups in Syria were fitting explosive devices and flying them over airbase fences and into the control surfaces of Russian jets parked up.
I have yet to see a proper artillery barrage being used against a tank column
What i suspect is being done is the drones are being used as a fac and getting the route fed back to the ground assault troops. They then get to an ambush point, and use a missile or rpgs to destroy a single vehicle with little to no collateral damage
Saves re tarmaccing the road next montj after the Russia army has done one.
Its a sad world we live in where the impact of war on finance is more important than the impact of war on lives.
Well yes, but another way of looking at it is that we can prevent fighting by instead turning economic screws. The power of economic sanctions, social media warfare and brands pulling out of Russia appears to be huge.
Obviously, there are some very valid concerns about how much power corporations have.
The thing with the claims about NAZIs is that it taps into Russian mythology about WW2.
The USA are equally as guilty - everything Republicans think is bad is "socialism". It's basically a Bogeyman.
Don't know about TV and FM but BBC World Service are broadcasting on SW.
The
USARepublican Party are equally as guilty – everything Republicans think is bad is “socialism”
FTFY. The major problem in the U.S. is that the Republican Party has drifted into this for decades and is now the Trumpist party. Don't lump the majority of Americans who rejected that in with the Trumpist wingnuts.
“Can Ukraine have a ‘Nazi problem’ with a Jewish president?”
USA had a racism and white supremacy problem with a black president.
It certainly did. But it's funny to see it flipped around like that - if we imagine an attempt to fix the USA's racism problem by trying to invade the country, assassinate the president and install a puppet government, it gives the lie to Putin's ludicrous bullshit about 'denazification'.
Here's a link to footage of a KA-52, part they way through it gets engaged and damaged,forcing the pilots to land.
Gives an aviation perspective of the terrain. It's SFW, but the AC is engaging targets throughout.
All the people leaving the Moscow rally early – is that an attempt by anti-war types to leave the stadium embarrassingly empty?
I thought maybe they had been paid to attend, just wanted to get their ticket punched for the money but didn't care to stay for the actual event.
FTFY. The major problem in the U.S. is that the Republican Party has drifted into this for decades and is now the Trumpist party. Don’t lump the majority of Americans who rejected that in with the Trumpist wingnuts.
Yeah, I was thinking that as I typed it. At least Republicans only represent ~50%* of the USA. I suppose one unexpected 'benefit' of the extreme partisan nature of the USA at the moment, is that if one half of the country believes one thing, you can guarantee that the other half will think the opposite.
Whereas in Russia, I suspect most of the population just accepts the Nazi-fearing jingoist propaganda since there's no real opposition party.
(*I'm aware this is debatable, but let's not do that here)
(*I’m aware this is debatable, but let’s not do that here)
Yeah, it was obvious what you meant. Just a clumsy way to put it.
https://twitter.com/BBCWillVernon/status/1504838570917474304
https://twitter.com/BBCWillVernon/status/1504838574683865090
https://twitter.com/BBCWillVernon/status/1504839545921093648
What's more telling? Putin having a Trump style rally with a Z on thier lapels while people telling the BBC off the record they where made to go or tricked (that Z is getting to look like a symbol that got hijacked in the 40s)
Meanwhile it's Biden taking to Xi Ping.
China starting to report the news with a degree of honesty.
If Putin gets someone to design a snappy black uniform it would not surprise me.
Looks like Mariupol may fall soon. Interesting looking at Russian coverage of this, saying their troops are ‘rescuing’ civilians who the nazis forced to hide in cellars.
Not clear how much this will change the overall position but it will give the Russians their much talked about ‘land bridge’ along the Black Sea coast.
This is awesome! They must be absolutely raging in there!
https://twitter.com/SponkaSon/status/1504895602995441669?t=kCiFruLJ8n-UwGgP-Euq1Q&s=19
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This is awesome! They must be absolutely raging in there!
my specatcles are hugo boss branded, does that mean i'm the bad guy?
I got them from spec savers.
The only settlement that Ukraine will be interested in is all Russian troops out of Ukraine, including Crimea.
I'm not so sure. Although I would love to see Putin's arse handed to him on a plate, Zelenskyy isn't such a maniac and I imagine would be keen to end the destruction of Ukraine and the continuing loss of Ukrainian lives.
I fear Crimea and a land corridor to it is lost to Ukraine now.
The best they can hope for now is a compromise to get the Russians out of the country, to stay a democracy and aim to be an EU member as soon as practicable.
Hopefully whilst all this is going on Putin f**** off this mortal coil.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zCpyRVZw7aM
Can someone watch this video please
With the sound up from 45 seconds to 55 seconds.
Just confirm what i think i am hearing is actually being relayed to the mortar crew.
Hmmmm?
^^ Too indistinct on my mobile.
Whatever happens I hope the sanctions remain until Putin is ousted.
No idea. What do you think is being said?
"Move to the left'in a home counties English accent.
Nope can’t hear that at all. Even with headphones on.
In this case, NAZIs doesn’t literally mean NAZIs,
I believe the correct term is neo-Nazi as they obviously not exactly the same as the German Nazis of 80 years ago. But otherwise there is not much fundamental difference.
https://forward.com/opinion/416751/why-does-no-one-care-that-neo-nazis-are-gaining-power-in-ukraine/
I'd not be surprised, because I think I recognise the mortar firing clip from something I saw earlier today, of an ex sniper and combat medic from Princess of Wales Regiment who's gone out there to train Ukranian Territorials in field medicine. He was claiming to have trained 500 people over the last 4-5 days with another 300 more by the end of the week.
I feel context is needed. No country is immune from the rise of Neo Nazi's. Let's not pretend this is the real reason for the invasion.
We banned our fifth "group" last year in the UK.
Ukraine isn't some special haven for the rise of the far right nationalists.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57806800.amp
Meanwhile it’s Biden taking to Xi Ping.
China will welcome him with open arms but I wonder what is there to exchange/negotiate in order to convince the CCP.
China starting to report the news with a degree of honesty.
What news is that?