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Jojo rabbit.
Is excellent funny and tragic at the same time.
Tell me that teacher/adult in that reddit clip is all for the war and the brutality slaying of kids that took place today?
They are either petrified like the eastern Germans when the Stasi spied on everything or Russia has gone too far down a very dark road.


 
Posted : 08/05/2022 7:18 pm
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About the only way I can see that bridge being "dropped" is if the designers applied cold war logic and built a section to collapse with precisely placed demolition charges.

Such a section would likely be at the Russian end and guarded. Those guards would have to not just be drunk, but very very drunk. And that doesn't seem like something the Russian armed forces would do whilst on duty.


 
Posted : 08/05/2022 7:22 pm
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Jojo Rabbit, that is well worth a watch. Very well blended tragedy, farce and comedy.


 
Posted : 08/05/2022 7:23 pm
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If you like those kids you're going to love the ones in this video...


 
Posted : 08/05/2022 7:27 pm
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It's gone quiet about the Admiral Makarov ship. Any news on that?


 
Posted : 08/05/2022 10:19 pm
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It’s gone quiet about the Admiral Makarov ship. Any news on that?

Starting to look like a bit of wishful thinking.

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1523142792058654721?s=20&t=4SdxbvxZH94qVW8KTayGgg


 
Posted : 08/05/2022 10:28 pm
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I've just rewatched the film of those kids dressed up. Really unsettling and scary. Proper Hitler youth type culture.

Although I think the kids kit is better than some the Russian troops have.


 
Posted : 08/05/2022 10:39 pm
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Direct attack with a plane like the 9/11 scenarios would put the bridge our of action.
Pack some thermite and avtur in and work out a way to land it unsafely. Boom, no more bridge.
Nice project for a modl plane specialist


 
Posted : 08/05/2022 10:42 pm
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Proper Hitler youth type culture.

Actually it's not. I speak as the son of a mother who was actually in the Hitler Youth along with the rest of her class at school. They were basically girl guides who went off on summer camps and had a laugh. I have some photos. Their uniforms were quite nice, no tanks hanging round their shoulders.


 
Posted : 08/05/2022 11:25 pm
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Well it's the 9th tomorrow victory parade false flag?
Brutal bombing of more schools or even a Jewish grave yard.
I'm hoping Ukraine leave it well alone just to piss off Putin.
Although a few more drones with Ukraine flags on flying over Putin would be top work


 
Posted : 08/05/2022 11:51 pm
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I speak as the son of a mother who was actually in the Hitler Youth along with the rest of her class at school. They were basically girl guides who went off on summer camps and had a laugh.

As the grandchild of another Hitler Youth what little I know about her experience involved being sent to another country, made to work, abused by soldiers and scarred for the rest of her relatively short life. Maybe she was just unlucky.


 
Posted : 09/05/2022 5:17 am
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Although a few more drones with Ukraine flags on flying over Putin would be top work

Are we too late for a funding page for this?


 
Posted : 09/05/2022 9:13 am
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https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1523543444127248385?s=20&t=cZX2XYBxoaPQVtXwFiPJyA

(No I don’t actually know if it’s genuine)

A bit like the photo of general mobilisation papers that are/aren’t photoshopped doing the rounds.


 
Posted : 09/05/2022 9:28 am
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I think Putin has realized that the war is going to drag on and trying to escalate won't make things better so all he can do is blame the U.S. and NATO for his own stupidity.

https://twitter.com/DrRadchenko/status/1523570377363841026
https://twitter.com/DrRadchenko/status/1523570386457497600


 
Posted : 09/05/2022 10:05 am
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I know it is outside the edit window now, so I guess up to the mods. Can somebody please do something about that self-starting embedded video up there^^^.


 
Posted : 09/05/2022 10:39 am
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With no mobilisation, looks like hes just planning to keep grinding away in the eats, probably using a lot of long range missiles to terrorise and hobble ukraine's economy for the forseeable


 
Posted : 09/05/2022 11:40 am
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I think Putin has realized that the war is going to drag on and trying to escalate won’t make things better so all he can do is blame the U.S. and NATO for his own stupidity.

I think this current stalemate has been obvious for a long time. Given the funding that's been given to Ukraine, a general mobilization will only improve that funding further. Russia can't afford that unless China openly back them, which isn't happening.

So stalemate and destruction it is. Question still remains, have Ukraine been given enough to start properly pushing them out? Guess we'll see when the latest funding and arms start getting put in place. Going on the offensive is a different ball game from being on the defensive though.

Personally, I think whether Russia keeps the bits it has taken is really down to actions of the populaces in those areas. but that kinda stuff will take a long while.


 
Posted : 09/05/2022 12:56 pm
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So stalemate and destruction it is. Question still remains, have Ukraine been given enough to start properly pushing them out? Guess we’ll see when the latest funding and arms start getting put in place. Going on the offensive is a different ball game from being on the defensive though.

Allegedly they're on the offensive now as part of a counter attack near Kharkiv which is taking back ground.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-may-8

No idea how sustainable that is.


 
Posted : 09/05/2022 1:49 pm
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Yeah, I've been keeping eye on that, small scale, but if that proceeds any further that's a really interesting development as there loads of russian supply lines coming from the north in behind there. If the Ukrainians get near those, that'd be a very good development.


 
Posted : 09/05/2022 2:17 pm
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I suspect this is correct - Putin is just out of ideas and can't think of anything to do besides just keeping on doing the same thing. The Russian forces must be nearly spent, I doubt they'll be able to mount any more large-scale offences so they will have no choice but to try to dig in and try to turn it into an artillery battle.

https://twitter.com/PhillipsPOBrien/status/1523585362710638593


 
Posted : 09/05/2022 2:49 pm
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Going on the offensive is a different ball game from being on the defensive though.

A problem for the Ukranians in taking back territory is that they will want to avoid civilian casualties, while the Russians don't care.


 
Posted : 09/05/2022 3:50 pm
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Well Ukraine are taking back territory to the North and west of Kharkiv, also on the Izyum salient. The Russian big offensive and attempted encirclement has failed. What more have they got?


 
Posted : 09/05/2022 5:32 pm
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Anyone fancy a sweepstake on how long Putin has left before he drinks the wrong cup of tea, or dons the wrong underpants?

Without general mobilisation he's effectively dependent on contract soldiers (who can and are refusing to fight) and mercenaries. That added to the fact that the Russians are poorly trained, tactically inept and armed with shoddy and poorly maintained weapons, means the end game may be closer than we think. Putin's whole power structure is based on his perceived infallibility, combined with making key stakeholders (political, military, security services, business) very wealthy. With all this having been comprehensively debunked, I think we're moving closer to regime change.

Interesting times ahead..


 
Posted : 09/05/2022 7:37 pm
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Concentration camps?
Gulags?
Call them what you want, this is happening in Europe in 2022.


 
Posted : 09/05/2022 8:01 pm
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So hard to know what’s happening on the ground (as you’d expect in a war!). Further positive reports from the NE of Kharkiv tonight, but Popasna has seemingly been captured by the Russians and other places under pressure.

Also a build up of missile launching ships in the Black Sea. It’s just unbelievably frustrating - they can’t win so just want to cause as much death and destruction as they can before packing up…

Also wondering about Putins longevity - speech was more subdued than expected and not many ‘Z’s in evidence…. Lots of people saying he is out of ideas.


 
Posted : 09/05/2022 8:33 pm
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Saccades would be very funny if it wasn't for the accompanying loss of life. A very guilty chuckle.


 
Posted : 10/05/2022 8:57 am
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Saccades would be very funny if it wasn’t for the accompanying loss of life. A very guilty chuckle.

Considering the way the Russians have behaved, whether its bombing hospitals or executing civilians i'm really not losing any sleep over tank crews getting incinerated if it stops them killing anymore Ukrainian children.


 
Posted : 10/05/2022 12:24 pm
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My employer - big multi national manufacturing company has been hit overnight by a massive ransom demanding hack that originated in Russia apparently.

We had an attack a year or so ago in Germany so systems/lessons have been learnt already although my CAD plotter had spat out its entire roll of blank paper this morning!


 
Posted : 10/05/2022 1:31 pm
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My employer – big multi national manufacturing company has been hit overnight by a massive ransom demanding hack that originated in Russia apparently

We had an email based attack last week. Staff contacted by name, with message relating to thier job, with viral/ransomware attachment which looked like a SharePoint file share. According to our IT company we aren't the first.... All tracked to Russia.

This morning: seems to be progress by Ukranian forces. Reported by BBC, Guardian etc.
The news pages I'm less confident of and Twitter suggesting that this longer range artillery is starting to really bite as it is brought into action - and that in many areas Russian moral is below rock bottom.

Meanwhile Russia just lobs more missiles at random buildings it seems.

Let's hope that the two combine to end things as soon as possible.


 
Posted : 11/05/2022 8:34 am
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Meanwhile Russia just lobs more missiles at random buildings it seems.

Let’s hope that the two combine to end things as soon as possible.

Sadly I don't see that as likely

Ukrainian counter offensive will be destructive and costly in lives and damaging to infrastructure, thanks to all that artillery (newsnight has a good film on it last night)


 
Posted : 11/05/2022 8:38 am
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Gas off according to the bbc live feed, well, some of it.

Ukraine has said for the first time since the war started that it would suspend the flow of natural gas through a transit point, which it said delivers almost a third of the fuel piped from Russia to Europe through Ukraine.

Kyiv blames Moscow for the move, saying it would move the flows elsewhere.

Even after Russia invaded Ukraine in February, it has remained a major transit route for Russian gas to Europe.

However, Russian troops have been taking gas transiting through Ukraine and sending it to Russian-backed separatist areas in the eastern Donbas region of the country, the boss of the operator of Ukraine's gas network GTSOU told the Reuters news agency, without providing evidence.

GTSOU says it will stop shipments via the Sokhranivka route from today.

That comes after it declared a so-called force majeure, a clause invoked when a business is impacted by something that is beyond its control.

Russia's state-owned energy giant Gazprom said it had received notification from Ukraine that it would stop the transit of gas to Europe via the Sokhranivka interconnector from 0700 local time on Wednesday.

However, Gazprom, which has a monopoly on Russian gas exports by pipeline, says it is "technologically impossible" to shift all volumes to the Sudzha interconnection point further west, as GTSOU proposed.

Gazprom added that it was meeting all of its obligations to buyers of gas in Europe.

The United States has called on countries to curb their dependence on Russian energy and has banned Russian oil and other energy imports in retaliation for the invasion of Ukraine.

Tuesday's announcement does not change the timeline to lessen global dependence on Russian oil "as soon as possible", US State Department spokesperson Ned Price said.


 
Posted : 11/05/2022 9:15 am
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There has been some news on snake island over the last day or so, some footage of a ukranian attack, sounds like they made a mess, but claims from russia about destroying a number of aircraft and repulsing the attack.


 
Posted : 11/05/2022 10:13 am
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I agree with this idea that for Russia's sake, it needs to lose badly and have a serious rethink of how it deals with the world.

https://twitter.com/DrRadchenko/status/1524286098087763968


 
Posted : 11/05/2022 10:27 am
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Some more slight movement up east of kharkiv last couple of days, it is very interesting that, cause further on into the east the is a lot of Russian supply lines, still a good distance to go mind to get to those, but interesting that there is continual movement around there even if it is slow.

Could be a sign that the heavy weapons are making a difference.


 
Posted : 11/05/2022 1:34 pm
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Do we know how the people in the disputed regions now feel towards their russian liberators?


 
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The Ukrainians have themselves been warning against over optimism. I think they said a few days ago it would be June at the earliest before they had built enough force to launch a major offensive. My sense is they’ve got something close to 1:1 parity at the moment, hence the stalemate, but the experts tell me you need a minimum of 3:1 to go on the offensive, ideally more.

The destruction of the Russian army is just incredible. The sheer volume of kit and people killed must be unprecedented since 1945. There have certainly been wars with more destruction overall, but I can’t find one with as much in such a short space of time. What an unbelievable waste of life…


 
Posted : 11/05/2022 3:15 pm
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The Iran Iraq war was pretty distructive.


 
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Yes I think that’s the nearest - a huge amount of destruction, although it did last for 8 years. Being a teenager in the 80s I have to say I really don’t remember a lot of coverage of it at all…

Also Vietnam from the North Vietnamese side I think. Although the US losses were relatively small by comparison, on the other side there was enormous loss of life..


 
Posted : 11/05/2022 4:22 pm
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The sheer volume of kit and people killed must be unprecedented since 1945. There have certainly been wars with more destruction overall, but I can’t find one with as much in such a short space of time. What an unbelievable waste of life

I heard there were some wars in Asia and the Middle East a while back where some people went to heaven without warning. Korea and Vietnam were utterly brutal, so was Iran-Iraq.


 
Posted : 11/05/2022 4:29 pm
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Do we know how the people in the disputed regions now feel towards their russian liberators?

Interesting article on the Beeb yesterday indicating still very mixed views from some in those areas- presumably those still there not having fled, or died, or volunteered to fight the Russians, or been forcibly deported to Russia makes them a somewhat biased pool for views


 
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Do we know how the people in the disputed regions now feel towards their russian liberators?

Interesting article on the Beeb yesterday indicating still very mixed views from some in those areas- presumably those still there not having fled, or died, or volunteered to fight the Russians, or been forcibly deported to Russia makes them a somewhat biased pool for views

Or been forced to the front, heard a lot of that, conscripted 16/18-55/65 males haven't they?


 
Posted : 11/05/2022 6:12 pm
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Yes, I'd forgotten the conscription


 
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I've found this guy really interesting recently. Goes deep into the funding and logistics and stuff, few of his other vids are worth a watch too.


 
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