It’s fair and balanced and brings min wages and basic pensioners out of the tax scheme. Everyone should get behind it. Same with the Bank of England QE interest payments that are made to banks. Both solid ideas.
It's possible for a party be generally hateful but still have some good ideas/policies. The payment to commercial banks is just plain silly.
Andy Verity of the BBC posted an interesting chart of deficit / GDP per year. So 23/24 there's a budget deficit of 120.7 bn Which is 4.5% of economic output. Which is not huge by historical standards.
Using orthodox economic theory and looking at this chart (which covers deficit per year- not debt/GDP) would Starmer and Reeves like to explain why 'borrowing;(gilt issuance) is now problematic and the public finances are such a mess that it can't happen?
(Also note the handful of times we have budget surpluses.)
You could also note that years of borrowing have never resulted in the country actually going bankrupt or your children barely paying anything back.
Another interesting observation is how big deficits were during the austerity years. Altough towards 2017 the brakes came on and guess what GDP starts to flat-line .
* him, * him and **** him again, about time he got a taste of his own party’s vile rhetoric thrown at him.
This ^^
The Tories have spent the last decade being divisive, creating culture wars where none existed before (or at least where they were pretty hidden) and now they're being out-culturewarred by someone further right than even they've managed.
It's like when a bully suddenly gets confronted by someone bigger than them and they start wailing about how it's unfair.
Edit: why has the thread / page count suddenly broken?!
My local tory incumbent (Jenkinson) has resorted to playing the victim card!
Apparently some labour canvassers referred to his weight - poor lad has been bigger all his life and now the evil lefties are calling him a fatty.
I'm filing this under his previous claim of Workington drug dealers swapping food vouchers for weed during Covid.
He also avoids hustings because he can't be sure of his safety after threats from 'lefties'.
Farage has said he’s been invited on Kuenssburg’s program tomorrow (again) but is refusing until ‘the BBC apologies for dishonest audience’ last night. It’s playing to his base again isn’t it, he just can’t cope with robust criticism. Even at the most positive polling for Reform, four in five people won’t support him yet any situation where he’s not given an easy ride is ‘biased’
Farage has said he’s been invited on Kunessburg’s program tomorrow (again) but is refusing until ‘the BBC apologies for biased audience’ last night. It’s playing to his base again isn’t it, he just can’t cope with robust criticism.
He's playing the role of the plucky underdog, fighting against the Global Elitists who are trying to silence him.
A lot of the far right do that. Like how Brexit has apparently failed because of Liberal Lefties interfering.
Rwanda would work perfectly if those Leftie Lawyers weren't such a bunch of do-gooder snowflakes.
It's standard RW playbook. Claim to be the underdog, the victim, the hard done by.
Scumbags.
Farage has said he’s been invited on Kuenssburg’s program tomorrow (again) but is refusing until ‘the BBC apologies for dishonest audience’ last night.
I think its brilliant that now he's threatening to properly impact the Tory vote, this seems to be the end of the free ride that shyster has been given by the media for about the last 15 years.
Now he's being held up to some proper scrutiny he's wailing that its ALL JUST SO NOT FAIR, like the petulant toddler he is.
At least now his nasty, racist bullshit is being exposed for what it is, and the representatives of Reform are being shown for the knuckle-dragging thugs they are
I think its brilliant that now he’s threatening to properly impact the Tory vote, this seems to be the end of the free ride that shyster has been given by the media for about the last 15 years. Now he’s being held up to some proper scrutiny he’s wailing that its ALL JUST SO NOT FAIR like the petulant toddler he is
His campaign is being heavily ring fenced but if you surround yourself with shit someone is doing to smell it.
I think the whole "our racist volunteer was a setup, he's an actor" showed that he's completely comfortable with going full Trump.
He needs to be well and truly pulled up on that BS but he hasn't so far. Imagine, turns out a guy that's a part time actor can also be a right nasty shit working with Reform, who knew?
Reform drops three candidates but says people should still vote for them
As usual, the far right have absolutely no problem with hypocrisy but God forbid the left when have a hint of it... Real or invented.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c727xz2kkgjo
Kuenssburg’s program tomorrow (again) but is refusing until ‘the BBC apologies for dishonest audience’ last night.
Talk about ungrateful. QT has been one of his major platforms for spreading his propaganda.
Please let this be true
https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1807113864292528512?t=KPTpQgmRrD1SXiXf-yR45A&s=19
^^ I NEED to know if that's real now!😁
Just seen something on the internets that suggests that Lab bought up all the advertising space they could get their hands on when they saw the betting markets shift towards a GE on 04 Jul.
“* him, * him and **** him again, about time he got a taste of his own party’s vile rhetoric thrown at him.”
Someone has had racist abuse aimed at him, and you think thats ok because his political Party does things that you dont like?
I think you need to take a step back and realise how pathetic your position is, you are saying it’s ok to racially abuse him because in your mind, his Party are equally as abhorrent.
It doesnt work like that, I dont like a lot of things, but it isnt even remotely acceptable to abuse someone over their skin colour, or agree with someone doing it, because of their views on something you disagree with.
I’m totally shocked that anyone can think that abuse is even slightly acceptable, and that at least one person,a poster above, agrees with it.
Ever heard of MPs being killed, threatened etc? It’s hate. No need for it, and certainly no room for racist abuse. What next, Woman MP threatened with rape, but thats ok, as her Party has views that go against yours?
No, there are better channels to get rid of MPs you dont like, any abuse against them is not the way to do. Someone else could see your post agreeing that racism against Tory MPs is ok, they feel that way too, and continue with it as at least 2 people on here have agreed its ok to racially abuse an MP. Where does it end?
Just seen something on the internets that suggests that Lab bought up all the advertising space they could get their hands on when they saw the betting markets shift towards a GE on 04 Jul.
Sopel mentioned this I think. Someone in the Labour campaign said they were baffled, because usually the government has a huge advantage as they know the date before they announce, so they buy up all the ad space the week before the election. But Conservatives didn't do it, so Labour bought it all. General feeling was that Sunak surprised even his own party.
Someone has had racist abuse aimed at him, and you think thats ok because his political Party does things that you dont like?
No it's not. 100% agree with you there. However....
Racist abuse aimed at tory PM is called out rightly.
Racist abuse aimed at Diane Abbott by tory donor. Minor censure and apology but we'll keep the donation thanks.
General feeling was that Sunak surprised even his own party.
He did indeed, but because he’d initially floated the idea to the press of a May election, Labour and the Lib Dems had their campaigns pretty much ready to go from then.
Unfortunately, the Tories didn’t.
Just another example of how politically clueless Sunak is. He apparently only told a handful of people he was going to announce an election and it appears most of them, instead of getting involved in preparing the campaign, just headed straight to the bookies
The Reform canvassor that made the racial slur against Sunak is a bloody disgrace and there is no excuse for it. All the other stuff he said too... about killing immigrants if they are picked up in an ambulance for instance. Notably not reported much!
Has Sunak and his party stoked hatred for his/ their political gain? Yes. He's helped give a voice to that absolute mess of a guy and thousands of others.
They aren't mutually exclusive, they are both reprehensible imo.
Anyway....
Farage has said he's made a complaint to the electoral commission about the channel 4 programme... Well, he hasn't, it's a lie. They confirm they haven't been contacted, indeed they also say that such an allegation or election meddling is not something with their remit to investigate. As reported by the BBC.
So basically Farage has again proven he's a lying piece of poo.
As reported by the BBC.
You're not going to believe anything the British Bureau of Communism says, are you?
Sopel mentioned this I think. Someone in the Labour campaign said they were baffled, because usually the government has a huge advantage as they know the date before they announce, so they buy up all the ad space the week before the election. But Conservatives didn’t do it, so Labour bought it all. General feeling was that Sunak surprised even his own party.
Morgan mcsweeney is lab campaign manager, he was watching the betting markets! shortening that convinced him they were going to call a GE so bought up the advertising,
Mercer being Mercer again.
It comes after veterans minister Johnny Mercer said only the Tories had a plan to support the armed forces and a vote for Labour would "put us all in danger"
Mercer really is an absolutely obnoxious human being.
Fortunately it looks like he’s a prime candidate for a ‘Portillo Moment’ on Thursday night
https://Twitter.com/johnobee7/status/1807054821649764609?s=46&t=1lK7Dw1b6RqGJyvufO-trQ
seen on twitter
"I think the way the MSM has treated the Conservatives and Reform over the campaign is nothing short of a national disgrace, and I recommend all supporters put an X in both boxes on Thursday to register their anger"
Made me laugh, I wonder if any will go for it.
seen on twitter“I think the way the MSM has treated the Conservatives and Reform over the campaign is nothing short of a national disgrace, and I recommend all supporters put an X in both boxes on Thursday to register their anger”
Made me laugh, I wonder if any will go for it.
I'm working on one of the General Election counting stations, I'll let you know. 😉
“I think the way the MSM has treated the Conservatives and Reform over the campaign is nothing short of a national disgrace, and I recommend all supporters put an X in both boxes on Thursday to register their anger”
I wonder if that's actually been posted by a lefty, deep, deep, deep undercover.
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/875e9615-9a42-43b9-8902-34aa9601478a
Ive been reminding Tory voters to get out and vote in the 5th.😉
Just as a wind up as obviously they aren't that daft but the replies are "amusing".
Theres now video of Farage being up staged by putin
https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1807141707571454290?t=Tc7iRmak285Fq1CTyC0Hrg&s=19
Wonderful! They can't even take the bloody thing down! 😂
I bet it Nige is having a big dose of paranoia these days. 👍😁
You know that although he tries to make light of it, he goes off stage later and verbally kicks the shit out of his team!
Superb 👏
II just wish that he personally tried to take it down.
That’s priceless! 😂
^^ Farage seems to be having his very own Portillo (clothing) moment these days.
Bit ot but did anyone read anything about Portillo declaring support for Reform or something? Not sure if it was a fever dream or something.
His clothing looks like the bastard offspring of Portillo and Rees-Mogg
In that clip the double-breasted jacket in a contrasting colour to his trousers was pure Adolf Hitler.
He just needed the swastika armband to complete the look.
In that clip the double-breasted jacket in a contrasting colour to his trousers was pure Adolf Hitler.
Now you mention it, you're spot on there.
Random thought I had earlier:
Can opposition parties form a coalition to give themselves more chance of being the official opposition?
No
