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I really can't work out if Scott Adams twitter account is a perfect satirical device, or if he is really bat shit mental, taken alone I would suggest the latter, but his work on Dilbert does still make the former a possibility.

While options are defiantly narrowing for Trump, I will still carry a certain amount of anxiety until Biden is sworn in and actually takes over. Trump and the GOP are such a bunch of narcissists and megalomaniacs, they believe whatever actions they take are righteous, they are willing to destroy the country in their lust for power, any action is possible.


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 4:00 pm
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I think Scott Adams absolutely revelled in being the "Trump fan who people assume would be left wing", but like a lot of people he's become crazier and louder over time- a lot of the earlier stuff was more "You liberals think Trump has no chance but you're blind", "If Trump becomes president it will be your fault", that sort of thing. Now it's Joe Biden Is Literally A Space Monkey. Whether that's a genuine thing or whether it's just to keep the audience he found, who knows? Nothing feeds crazy like other crazy.

Dilbert is still good though. They can't all be Charles Schulz.


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 4:11 pm
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Was watching Get Me Roger Stone last night and Tucker Carlson was one of the talking heads and he was completely normal, came across as a nice bloke. So interesting that these people have their 'Fox personas' and are very different in person.


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 5:16 pm
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Just to add to Norton's comments- Trump is an overweight old dude with a horrible lifestyle. I don't think he's just delaying for its own sake, or to put off legal cases, or to make money while he can. I think he knows that with enough lawyers and obfuscations he can live out the rest of his life spending money he doesn't have to live the life of riley, put most problems off til he dies, and leave it to his terrible kids to sort out. His tax returns are a perfect example of how you can tie things up in a gordian knot with enough mad effort. You don't have to be right, you just have to make it take a really long time to be proved wrong.


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 5:45 pm
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I really can’t work out if Scott Adams twitter account is a perfect satirical device, or if he is really bat shit mental, taken alone I would suggest the latter, but his work on Dilbert does still make the former a possibility.

Scott Adams has been espousing fairly fringe views since the early 2000s, if it's satire then he's been playing a very long game. I dimly recall reading his opinions on women and Islam back then and deciding that I didn't really want to read Dilbert that much after all.


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 5:55 pm
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deciding that I didn’t really want to read Dilbert that much after all

It pissed me off but that was my view for the last 15 years.
Damn, I miss Dilbert.


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 6:04 pm
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That’s irrelevant: he won’t win unless the election results are certified that way.

I don't think Trump cares either way. In his head he's won and he's been robbed and cheated.


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 6:04 pm
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G20 today. I wonder how they handled Trump? He seems to have forgotten his booster cushion

https://twitter.com/g20org/status/1330164788027068425?s=19


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 6:08 pm
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Worst advent calendar ever


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 6:40 pm
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I don’t think Trump cares either way. In his head he’s won and he’s been robbed and cheated.

I don’t even believe that he believes that. My experience of truly narcissistic/machiavellian con-artists is that they only know/feel a few things.

Jealousy/possession/hatred/obsession
Manipulation/aggression/aggressiveness
Keeping up appearances/charm/maintaining narcissistic ‘supply’

Their grift is not exactly commensurate with ‘belief’ in the way that regular people have convictions, it’s more like a ‘state of mind’ that exists almost as a dark entity of it’s own - a sort of ‘conflict maniac’ that feeds and grows in the feedback-loop of projection, manipulation, denial and the art of bullshit. Truly a scary, hollow thing to witness. I’ve known two of them in both professional and personal life. NPD is like a green-eyed, grasping ghost that lives in a shell of a quite awful and essentially childlike person. Untreatable and unrelenting.


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 6:51 pm
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Worst advent calendar ever

Not enough wise men, too many donkeys.


 
Posted : 21/11/2020 6:52 pm
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Removing an unwanted tenant - enjoy!


 
Posted : 22/11/2020 12:59 am
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I think the judge is calling Rudy a clueless ****wit.

https://twitter.com/questauthority/status/1330313773702402050


 
Posted : 22/11/2020 2:25 am
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All the Trumpsters are calling foul as Judge Brann was an Obama appointee - sadly, Obama appointed him in a deal with the Senate. He’s a Lifelong Republican, Chair of the county Rep Party, NRA member and also an elite rep. Club.

Sadly for Rudy he’s still a federal judge who applies the law.


 
Posted : 22/11/2020 2:28 am
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Anybody who no longer sees it for the grift it is deserves to be fleeced.

This is, though, no way to behave.


 
Posted : 22/11/2020 4:15 am
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So they're appealing. Spinning this as a good result, Obama appointed judge etc.

https://twitter.com/questauthority/status/1330326337563881473?s=20


 
Posted : 22/11/2020 7:59 am
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I gather, based on what lawyers have been saying on Twitter, that they are quite limited in what they can appeal. I think the judge's ruling can be summarized as, "This whole thing is just frivolous garbage and there is no case to answer." I think that means that their appeal will be limited to saying that it's not frivolous garbage, not that Trump's team should have actually won the case.

I think it's going to the state Supreme Court now, not the U.S. Supreme Court. I think they have to work their way up through the courts before they can ask for a U.S. Supreme Court hearing. I think that any of the appeals courts can refuse to accept the case if they agree that it lacks any merit. The U.S. Supreme Court is certainly under no obligation to accept it and my money is on most or all of the justices not wanting to get involved with a clown show.


 
Posted : 22/11/2020 8:26 am
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Georgia to have another recount:

"Georgia will recount its votes following Trump campaign request" https://twitter.com/i/events/1330392110206316544?s=09


 
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Strikes me that this is how dictators start: they abuse enough people getting to where they are that they can't afford to let go of power so resort to ever more extreme and repressive measures.

Other than pandering to Trump's ego and possibly encouraging his supporters to part with more cash, I'm really not sure just what the continuing legal challenges are aiming to do. Laying the groundwork for something even more anti-democratic in the future? (see first paragraph)

Maybe, most worryingly, there'll be the "Enemies of the people" line trotted out. Let's destroy trust in the very institutions that are protecting you from us.


 
Posted : 22/11/2020 1:57 pm
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Let me get this right...
- votes in Georgia were counted by machine; result - Biden wins
- trump shouts 'foul' for a load of clearly spurious 'reasons' and demands recount
- winning margin is <0.5% so manual recount ordered
- manual recount delivers almost exactly the same vote numbers for each candidate but margin remains <0.5%
- trump makes more noise
- second recount confirmed
- votes which were counted by machine, then recounted by hand are now to be counted again by machine

When the second recount is completed - and undoubtedly with same result - who is then authorised to say...that's it, we're done here?
Is trump allowed to call for further recounts as long as the margin stays under 0.5%?
If it wasn't such a clear attempt to subvert democracy, this would be laughable.


 
Posted : 22/11/2020 2:07 pm
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who is then authorised to say…that’s it, we’re done here?

The state authorities have to certify the result by a certain deadline, either next week or the week after.


 
Posted : 22/11/2020 2:22 pm
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Light relief

Bearing in mind that this being 2020 means that handlers could still steal the show for just such a giant man-baby.


 
Posted : 22/11/2020 2:26 pm
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https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1330323662180929538
https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1330328216960196614
https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1330330259124838400


 
Posted : 22/11/2020 2:49 pm
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molgrips - result in Georgia was certified on Friday 20th Nov.
Has that certification now been either suspended or cancelled in view of the second recount?
Is there a limit to how many further recounts will be allowed as trump will undoubtedly seek to keep this going?


 
Posted : 22/11/2020 3:02 pm
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He is just dragging his tail along the ground now.
He is trying to cut a deal for his declining cash to be left alone and no charges against his daughter or son. He will drop the rest of the clan in a hole full of toxic waste.
I just hope when the paper trail of lies and incompetent guff is found the Dems publish the lot.


 
Posted : 22/11/2020 4:46 pm
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Those shredders in the Whitehouse must be smoking' (on the assumption that they actually have some paperwork to hide)


 
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Looks like at least one aim is to get to the Supreme Court:

Today’s decision turns out to help us in our strategy to get expeditiously to the U.S. Supreme Court. Although we fully disagree with this opinion, we’re thankful to the Obama-appointed judge for making this anticipated decision quickly, rather than simply trying to run out the clock.

"We will be seeking an expedited appeal to the Third Circuit. There is so much evidence that in Pennsylvania, Democrats eliminated our opportunity to present 50 witnesses and other evidence that election officials blatantly ignored Pennsylvania’s law denying independent review. This resulted in 682,777 ballots being cast illegally, wittingly or unwittingly. This is just an extension of the Big Tech, Big Media, Corrupt Democrat censorship of damning facts the American public needs to know.

"We are disappointed we did not at least get the opportunity to present our evidence at a hearing. Unfortunately the censorship continues. We hope that the Third Circuit will be as gracious as Judge Brann in deciding our appeal one way or the other as expeditiously as possible. This is another case that appears to be moving quickly to the United States Supreme Court.”

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But as above each level of court would want to see that there's evidence. So the Trump team are deliberately witholding any evidence such that the cases will be thrown out so they can keep appealing to each higher level ending up at the Supreme Court OR there's no evidence.


 
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Pk13,

There the angle Antony Scaramucci has been pushing, that it's all about immunity for the Trumps and the (lack of) evidence presented by Giulliani and Co. does nothing to contradict it.

We can only hope that the Trumps fall into that hole full of toxic waste so carelessly prepared by their henchmen as well.

I hope the new administration don't make the mistake of trying to move on in the name of uniting the Nation, the Trump organisation needs to be spending the next four years either in court fighting endless cases that will make it as difficult as possible for Trump to think of running in 2024 as well as relieving him of all his (borrowed or stolen) money.

Jail or ruin will be the only acceptable outcomes from this shit storm. Either will do but preferably both.


 
Posted : 22/11/2020 6:27 pm
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I'm very interested to see when they handover if there's any substance at all in what he's claimed to have delivered.

Prescriptions for example and this 'new rule' which bans middlemen and forces pharma to charge the lowest price in the world.

My daughter's monthly prescription bill is horrendous. As high as it's ever been.

I'm convinced it's all bluster.


 
Posted : 22/11/2020 6:30 pm
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He is trying to cut a deal for his declining cash to be left alone and no charges against his daughter or son.

Who is he trying to cut a deal with?


 
Posted : 22/11/2020 9:25 pm
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All the Trumpsters are calling foul as Judge Brann was an Obama appointee – sadly, Obama appointed him in a deal with the Senate.

Yup- Obama picked his guy (not sure who it was), Pat Toomey picked Judge Brann:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnZOyuhXcAI2Bc4?format=jpg&name=small

Though no doubt if anyone ever does acknowledge that inconvenient fact, they'll just declare Toomey to be a RINO.


 
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The Bigly Farce, coming to Netflix soon.


 
Posted : 23/11/2020 9:21 am
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As I see it there are 3 possible realities.

1. Trump knows he’s lost, and the legal cases are just an excuse to keep fundraising to pay off his debts. Nobody could unintentionally play such a poor legal strategy.

2. Trumps legal team really are that useless, and we are seeing the flailing of a deluded mad rich boy, pandered to by his lackeys.

3. Trump and Giuliani are geniuses. They are setting up a play to a stacked Supreme Court they know will come down on their side.

As it’s America, I’ve no idea which!


 
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4. He's in so deep He can't see any other option.


 
Posted : 23/11/2020 10:25 am
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Yeah - he’s much the same as Johnson. Even against overwhelming evidence, never admit you are wrong and double down.

I’m not particularly surprised by Trumps petulance. The rest of the Republican Party enabling him is appalling.


 
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