I’ve voted.
Beer time?
Surely you ant crack a beer until florida exit poll,
Please let it end tonight. Please please make him leave quietly.
Not a praying man but I'll join you in that.
Whose coverage is everybody watching?
CNN probably (faster info I suspect),but they can get on your nerves a bit, when that happens, back to ITV, then repeat as necessary.lol A bit of Beeb for its deadpan reporting.
Ballots close in Florida at 1am. BST I believe, so well know that result fairly soon after apparently. If Trump loses that, I'll probably head off to bed and hope I don't wake up to a repeat of Referendum/ Trump 2016.
Watching fear the walking dead
I'll see what it looks like tomorrow
Don't have much faith in 2020
kimbers
Full Member
Watching fear the walking dead
Ah yeah, I've got one episode of that to watch, I'll watch that a bit later tonight.👍
Watching fear the walking dead
Apparently that was directed by a time traveller from the future. It’s a “based on true events” story after Trump’s third term.
🤣🤣
CNN building up to this one 😀
Poor old Beebs coverage looks decidedly low budget. 😟
Because it is!
the way 2020 has gone i'm expecting the worst but then we still have December to get through which will be something like a meteorite so our suffering will be fairly short lived.
mrchrispy
Full Member
the way 2020 has gone i’m expecting the worst but then we still have December to get through which will be something like a meteorite so our suffering will be fairly short lived.
Hate to say this but I see 2021 as being far, far worse than this year. Not in the Covid sense (I really hope) but economically. I see the next few months as a surreal time before the massive, monumental pain hits.
eddiebaby
Full MemberIndeed. But add in the fact that if Joe wins our post Brexit US trade deal gets a lot harder to sort and it gets even more scary.
Mmm. Sort of. Yes, negotiations will be harder, but that's because they could be fruitful and mutually beneficial and that takes more effort. A trump trade deal will be easy, inasmuch as we'll just have to accept whatever he demands, even though it'll be way worse for us and probably worse for the USA too.
Something that's always been a bit overlooked that- good, lasting, wide ranging mutually beneficial, fair trade deals are bloody hard, even with the best of intentions. Only limited, onesided, or generally shitty trade deals are ever easy.
Biden.... Please
🙏
Not in the Covid sense (I really hope) but economically.
In both senses. Covid isn’t going anywhere, and as you say the economic pain is only really getting started. 2020 is a shitshow, but it’s only the start. The recovery from what has started this year (and the previous four) is going to take decades.
trump isn't the most dangerous person in the US; that's McConnell.
I hope - against hope - he's turfed out in Kentucky but it's massively unlikely.
Assuming he wins and Biden is pres elect, mcconnell has 8 weeks to force through legislation - see coney barrett's hearings.
How has Kentucky announced the result so quickly?
trump isn’t the most dangerous person in the US; that’s McConnell.
There’s a good chance the dems will take both houses regardless of the presidential outcome
CNN showing county by county as they come in, in Florida.👍
Biden doing "ok" so far.
Early numbers, but he's leading Florida and Georgia
Florida took a month? In 2012
He's not leading by enough at the moment in e.g. Miami Dade. He needs to make up his numbers by running up big percentages areas he wins. It's early but those numbers are a positive for Trump.
Got to say, CNN is the one to watch if you want to see how Florida is going.
Sad to say this but my heart rate is up watching this.lol
Same here
Squeaky bum time
Do something good Florida. Come on.
CNN is the one to watch if you want to see how Florida is going
New York Times is good. May need a sub for it though.
I've been watching Sky here - is it me or are influential Republicans now in a mad dash to distance themselves from Trump?
Trump is going to take Florida isn’t he?
How has Kentucky announced the result so quickly?
They haven't. The official results from all the states won't be known for days or weeks. What you will get today are projections based on interim vote counts. If one candidate has a huge lead, it won't be possible for the other candidate to catch them with mailed in ballots, so most of the states will be known fairly quickly, but that's not an official result, just a projection.
Trump is projected to win Indiana and its 11 electoral votes
By Amanda Erickson
As the first round of polls closed, Indiana became the first state called in the 2020 presidential race, according to Edison Research. With 8 percent of the votes counted, Trump had won about 65 percent of the votes. Trump had been expected to win the state.
is it me or are influential Republicans now in a mad dash to distance themselves from Trump
They'll be covering their arses like good little scumbags.
This is bloody horrible! I'm watching the Guardian feed.
I'm with you Poop. It's gripping stuff!
According to the Guradian, after 64% of the votes have been counted, Biden is up by 2%. Please, please, PLEASE, let it stay this way!
John King is a flipping demon with the touchscreen on CNN. 😂
Trump is going to take Florida isn’t he?
Biden is currently fractionally ahead in the vote count (66% counted). Mail in ballots are expected to favour Biden, so my money is on Biden. Gonna be close though.
Bloody hell, that CNN Florida thing is gripping TV. I've sworn copiously and then cheered happily three or four times already. However if 65% is in and Biden is favoured with the postals then I may just allow my heart rate to slow a tad..
Mr ex-president trump, the library door key is on the inside.
There is a revolver, bottle of whisky (coke) and glass on the desk.
Please do the right thing.
Goodbye.
No real path to victory for Trump if he loses Florida. Worth staying up another half an hour
77% in and Biden is still leading!
I hope Trump loses Florida, but he's done better in Miami Dade than last election. That may not be a good sign.
Florida still has to call panhandle, which is pretty solid republican
Trump has won florida
Mail in ballots are expected to favour Biden, so my money is on Biden. Gonna be close though.
We’re at around 80% in now. What percentage are mail-ins and when do they get counted?
Small numbers up there though
Shite New York Times has Trump at 95% to win Florida
Blimey. 80% in and Biden 0.9% ahead. Too much!!
However if 65% is in and Biden is favoured with the postals then I may just allow my heart rate to slow a tad..
It's the other way round though. In-person (and some late postals) will be added at the end I think.
My confidence is waning. It's getting too close in Florida.
Biden lead down to 0.6
It's effectively even! Balls.
Trump ahead
EDIT: biden ahead
chuffing hell
Noooooo!!!
I can't believe this election is even going to be close. Trump is a travesty of a president and if he gets elected again it just shows that the majority of Americans are idiots.
I feel very sorry for everyone who voted democrat..
Every floridian county left to call went heavily trump last time
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_Florida
Ffs
I'm off to bed
Trump win Florida in 2016. So “effectively even” is still a decent swing towards Biden.
Not sure it is enough though. 😧
Every floridian county left to call went heavily trump last time
But not populous. Gonna be close...
I'm going to watch fear the walking dead in a bit. It genuinely calms me.lol
Hopefully things get a bit better by the time I look back.
That QAnon supporter, Taylor Greene won her house seat 🙄
Biden is favoured with the postals then I may just allow my heart rate to slow a tad..
Posted 10 minutes ago
Trump has managed to get 50% more votes in a Dem. stronghold in Florida. That might be a gain. It might be because turnout is up across the board and Biden will have a proportionate increase.
Or Trump has done what he does well and get his base energized and they turned out in droves.
How's the heart rate now?
Not got a good feeling about this.
Already dreading waking up and looking at my phone in the morning.
I reckon the Latino machismo vote has probably scuppered Bidens chances in Florida.
Whether that translates to the other swing states remains to be seen.
Worrying that the main advert on the CNN results page is “Migrate to Canada?” 🤔
Am I too early for this?
Come on America FFS!
Not writing Florida off, but I understand it to be "must-win" for Trump, as opposed to "that'd be bloody great for Biden if he wins".
Surely - sweet baby Jesus, surely - that f***** can't get back in...
How’s the heart rate now?
Higher than I would like..
However, this election will be won and lost in the rust belt. All the poll maps that showed Biden with a good chance of winning had him getting beyond 270 without winning Florida.
In short Biden can win handily without Florida, Trump had to win Florida (which it looks like he's done). So if Trump does indeed close Florida out, he still has a hell of a long way to go in states that were polling significantly in Biden's favour.
Long way to go..
Biden losing Florida was always going to be an early set back - but Biden has plenty of routes to victory without Florida. Trump would have, effectively, had none. Must be gutting to have put so much effort in there and then see all the EC votes go to the other guy over a point or two victory.
Too soon?
Dems winning Florida is the equivalent of your team scoring 3 goals in the first five minutes - makes the rest of the match a lot more relaxing.
Shame but let's hope it doesn't go to penalties.
With 38% of the vote in, Biden is about 6% up in Texas! F*** you Florida!
Worth watching this and bearing in mind how the UK ended up voting for brexit.
Or VAR
My hope for florida is that it seems trump gained 11% from Cuban voters, but lost a similar amount from OAPs
The Cuban vote is exclusive to florida, the oap vote is not
That could be the city votes, Austin etc are pretty progressive places.
Biden is ****ing trump in Ohio.
I reckon the Latino machismo vote has probably scuppered Bidens chances in Florida.
Whether that translates to the other swing states remains to be seen.
You may well be right in terms of Florida. Trump polled well amongst the Latino community, particularly those of Cuban heritage. However, the rust belt states don't have a huge Latino community (if at all in a meaningful sense) and it's amongst suburban women and non college educated whites that he has by all accounts lost tonnes of support. The latter in the rust belt is over 50% of the electorate..
Long way to go
Ohio’s making me more relaxed.
Yeah I agree, you’ve gone into more detail but that’s what I was hinting at.
Stay with it boys; have a whisky sharpener to keep you going.
It's very early.
Georgia looking good for Biden. He needs Wi, Pa and Mi.
I'm going to bed hopeful now, north Carolina is going well and what kimbers said about Florida's OAPs voting blue is encouraging
Amazing how screaming 'socialism' again and again with absolutely no evidence has made the difference in florida
Edit: not really amazing, just annoying
There are still a million votes to count in Florida. Presumably they're onto the mail ins now.