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I thought you coloured in a US voting form not put an X beside a candidate? Might be wrong but heard it from a naturalised american on that R4 this week.


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 5:52 pm
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I suppose I should retract my 2am prediction of a Trump win. I think I prefer it this way. We get to see him throw his dummy out the pram as it all unravels, and he doesn’t seem to be disappointing us. The other amusing thing is that they did this by design. As if they were just going to stop counting because he said so.


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 6:00 pm
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Except that he has secured at least 3million more votes than he did is 2016

There are 2 less candidates this time, and those two were fringe right candidates iirc. So those voters had to go somewhere. It was never going to Biden.


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 6:05 pm
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Dropped in to Fox News to see how their coverage looks.

Thought this was an interesting take:
If Trump wins it will be because the media is so mean to him

Of course, if he loses that will also be the meejas fault. Naturally.


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 6:07 pm
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Except that he has secured at least 3million more votes than he did is 2016

Sure, but his opponent did better again. And won the election. By staying in his basement and letting Trump offend the voters he needed to attract.

https://twitter.com/ChrisDJackson/status/1324027105982763011


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 6:08 pm
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The right will shrug and go to work.

yes, yes they will

qanon types are the ones to worry about, Trump has been courting these loons for a while, look at pizzagate, or even the militia nuts that tried to kidnap the dem governor


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 6:13 pm
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Or go on a mass shooting spree and run over protestors.

Hell I bet one of them does a Timothy McVeigh.


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 6:17 pm
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i think at one point in my life i would have thought that SP scene was satire 🙁


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 6:19 pm
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This thread has been awesome, thanks all, a welcome distraction from the usual news, especially as I don't usually give a toss or have any clue about US politics. 👍


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 6:20 pm
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If anyone had any doubt that John Lydon is a wally

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/gmb-fans-baffled-trump-supporter-22954865


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 6:22 pm
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If anyone had any doubt that John Lydon is a wally

Irrelevant little squirt who used to be in a boy band.


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 6:25 pm
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Good grief, that Mirror page is horrendous! Jumping about and add's everywhere...

*retreats to STW full member page with no add's* 🙂


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 6:30 pm
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Arizona (my favourite state) is back in the game! The media can’t count (or rather informal reporting broke down)… more votes left to count than assumed last night…


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 6:38 pm
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Or is it more complex in Pennsylvania?

It's much more complicated than that. In some places you have a machine to operate, with a process and screens to read through. In others it's a cross in a box, but there are always loads of elections going on at the same time so your ballot paper is as long as your arm, there are instructions to read and it's really easy to make a mistake. That's one reason why it takes so long.


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 6:50 pm
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...as someone who wants to believe in the fundamental decency of people the only result that made sense to me was a crushing landslide. So now I’m back to questioning my belief in the fundamental decency of people.

That's the very same Garry Whitta (now a screenwriter) who was deputy editor at The One For Amiga Games.

So there.

He's right, though.


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 6:55 pm
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It’s much more complicated than that. In some places you have a machine to operate, with a process and screens to read through.

Plus in the case of mail-in/absentee ballots, you have to put them in the envelopes correctly, the signature has to match, it has to filled out correctly, scrutineers can challenge a ballot on any number of grounds and the USPS may still be looking through sorting facilities looking for undelivered ballots.
If you were designing a voting system to not deliver the result voters intended you couldn't do much better.
Plus places like Wisconsin don't officially declare until December 1st. So you won't get an official outcome until then.


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 6:55 pm
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Can someone quickly summarise the current situation.

Ive been avoiding the news generally.


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 6:56 pm
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Can someone quickly summarise the current situation.

https://twitter.com/leeunkrich/status/1324045156065009664?s=21


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 6:59 pm
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😳

That reaalllyyy helpful @kelvin


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 7:00 pm
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Can someone quickly summarise the current situation.

Ive been avoiding the news generally.

looks like Biden will just about do it

BUT

Trump is throwing his toys out demanding recounts & getting his lawyers ready. trying to agitate his base by saying its been stolen


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 7:03 pm
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This guy would have benefitted by knowing who was going to win…

Ooooft… wonder if it was Farage?

Mind you I guess similar bets are made on the stock market all the time during an election.

If they've got any sense, this will be combined with a stock market or other form of "bet" that has a payout of >$5million on Biden winning.

You can't play the bookies against each other any more but in a 2 horse race you can play something else against the bookies.

Takes some balls and a big bank roll to pull off though.


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 7:05 pm
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Can someone quickly summarise the current situation

Your guess is as good as anybody's. Uncertain with Biden looking to be slightly ahead when all the postal votes are counted if they continue to be predominantly Democrat..


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 7:05 pm
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Nice summary that Kelvin! I've been brought up to speed so I'm off out for a ride :-).


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 7:05 pm
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Can someone quickly summarise the current situation.

Ive been avoiding the news generally.

No, it cannot be summarised quickly ha ha.

If you want a short but only mostly accurate answer. An hour ago you might say whoever wins Michigan wins, but that’s based on a lot of assumptions.

It’s unlikely anyone, if Biden wins in Mich we’ll probably have to wait 24 hours for Nevada to count more votes to be sure.

If Trump wins Mich, he’s probably won.


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 7:06 pm
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My only real contributions to the thread but bookies now have Biden 1/5 to win.


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 7:11 pm
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that post of kelvin's has the LibDems doing better than I expected


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 7:13 pm
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https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1323938999468175367?s=19

Ooh, look what other utter piece of shit has crawled out of the woodwork to claim election fraud.

He's probably terrified that his good mate Trump is out of a job and he'll be back to square one in trying to get into the US political market.

Also, why the **** does this failed politician keep being invited back into the BBC?!


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 7:17 pm
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I think that’s the SNP

Lib Dems as ever are nowhere


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 7:18 pm
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Fartage can do one.

That's my hot political take right now.


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 7:26 pm
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Also, why the **** does this failed politician keep being invited back into the BBC?!

One degree of separation away from having Alex Jones on to talk about how Sandy Hook was a hoax.


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 7:32 pm
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Lots of my American colleagues and friends in dismay that their countryman have show a huge hand toward electing a monstrosity today.   They are very concerned about how they (Americans, especially the white ones) will be essentially generalised as racist, capitalist bigots for the next four years!


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 7:33 pm
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Can someone quickly summarise the current situatio

No ones going to get to 270 based on the current numbers are they?
Then what?


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 7:39 pm
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I hope the pressure of possibly losing will be too much for Trump’s hair and it will detach from the main body, fleeing back to its home world, leaving a fat, bald, orange husk (sort of like a giant Cheeto with tiny hands) that will simply disperse in the breeze. The particles from said Cheeto husk will contain a pathogen lethal to those who have a mullet or wear any camouflage clothing. Thus killing 97.3% of the Republican Party voters.


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 7:41 pm
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No ones going to get to 270 based on the current numbers are they?

Most likely someone will- for it to be perfectly tied is always mathematically unlikely. Who the hell thought THAT was a good idea by the way ought to be dug up and beaten with sticks then buried again. It's the second worst system in the world, after test match cricket.

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1) Not really, he’s got a chance to win that’s slightly improving as more votes are counted, he could well lose.

What part of "probably" was the problem here?

3) only in Polls, not in votes.

Obviously, because at the start of the night, there weren't any votes counted/declared, so all there were, was polls forecasts and analysis.

But I guess my point might not have been clear enough, which is that weirdly despite the predictions and polls being off the mark, the situation now is still largely what it was before the first vote was counted- the maths is still on Biden's side, from everything we can see. It's just ironic that this was the case at the start, and while all the working has turned out to be wrong, the actual answer still seems to be right. That was basically what all my maths homework looked like too.


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 7:42 pm
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Also, why the **** does this failed politician keep being invited back into the BBC?!

Why him specifically though? The last four years have showing that there’s plenty of people that share his views, why don’t they share the nutcase slot round a bit, rather than giving the nutters someone to vote for focus on


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 7:42 pm
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No ones going to get to 270 based on the current numbers are they?
Then what?

The US reverts to a British colony with the queen as head of state.


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 7:43 pm
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That farage clip made me chuckle..contradicts himself within 2 sentences!

The not so funny thing is that whilst the man is clearly a lying charlatan, there are people in the UK that get to vote, whilst being so thick they are actually taken in by the crap he comes out with.


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 7:43 pm
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Susan Collins announced her Democratic challenger, Sara Gideon, had conceded the race while speaking to supporters in Bangor, Maine.

Guarantees republicans retain control of the Senate


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 7:44 pm
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I hope the pressure of possibly losing will be too much for Trump’s hair and it will detach from the main body

Its already a thing


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 7:49 pm
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Republicans, Senates, is this not just the plot of the Star Wars prequels without the space wizards and robots?


 
Posted : 04/11/2020 7:49 pm
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piemonster, the simple answer to your question is...it's chaos.


 
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