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You really should be doing more training if you ever want to win, TSY.


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 3:44 pm
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Ah, I see. It was my weakest (cycling) and still is and that was a drawback especially on HIM etc. Now I am a new convert to my bike and do much less running.

Jamie - actually that seems only an average schedule for most age groupers (sorry TSY) - no chance of winning off that (again sorry TSY)

[edit for the post below - OK iDave, its a nice swim and ride to a 10k running [b]race[/b] !!!]


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 3:45 pm
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bike for show, run for dough...


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 3:46 pm
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bike for show, run for [b]dough[/b]...

Nice National Bread Week reference!


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 3:47 pm
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I might buy a French Stick tonight, just like I celebrated national pie week.

THM - I've been saying that for ages about my training volume... it really isn't a lot!


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 3:48 pm
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[i]bike for show, run for dough... [/i]

I like my bike.
Its about 11 years old, I bought it in France while I was working there on the Mk 2 Focus.
has quite old spec stuff on it.
But its still around 9 Kg and I love to use it.
Ali frame, MTB pedals, 105 gear set.
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Posted : 16/04/2012 3:50 pm
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Does this explain the lactate thingy ?.

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Posted : 16/04/2012 3:58 pm
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TSY - one reason why I never went beyond HIM. The required volume for a full IM is just too much to fit in with family and work (at least for me) and I had no interest in plodding round a full IM.

HIM is much more do-able with reasonable performance and great balance between speed and endurance for my age (ie 45-50). Just so stupidly expensive!!


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 3:58 pm
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THM - I know a couple of guys who do IM. One who's reasonable at it and is just naturally gifted, the other not so but gets up at 4am for training rides and has a job that pretty much allows him to be in the gym allday... not for me ta.


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 4:02 pm
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Solo - why are you so anti-running? I'm sorry that I'm so useless - wussed out of riding the road bike but had op around 10 days ago. I dunno. ๐Ÿ˜•


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 4:36 pm
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[i]Solo - why are you so anti-running? I'm sorry that I'm so useless - wussed out of riding the road bike but had op around 10 days ago. I dunno.[/i]

CG.
I'm not against anyone else running, but I don't.
I use to enjoy a sprint, but the long stuff was difficult even as a young skinny streak of a teenager.
Also, I just found it to be soooo boring.
In my limited experience, the only time during adulthood I could run, was about 10 yrs ago after my apendectomy.
I was sub 11 stone, very thin and lean after a short stay in Hopsital.
Then I found I could run with little effort at all.
But still found it boring.

I only asked about the bike to give some constructive encouragement.
Just give it a gentle pootle on a quiet road, may be make it a reward journey with something nice at the end.
Be good to know that you've managed to get back to using your road bike.
Post Op recovery permitting.
How are you then ?.


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 4:43 pm
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Solo - running needn't be boring, you just need to mix it up and treat each run as a session. So one day a week was an off-road hill session, another day was endurance, another was mix it up with sprinting between lamp posts, bit of track work etc etc.

Off road is the best especially at this time of year when there are bluebells to be admired, birdsong to hear, lambs gambolling and the British countryside is to be enjoyed. 8)

No bikey for around 2 months, quaffing pain killers and anti-inflammatories still, without much relief. Thanks for asking though. ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 5:46 pm
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Hmmm, I was running with a girl from my club at the weekend helping her do her last long before London Marathon this weekend (go Lizzie!!) we did 10 and a bit miles at 8'40 min/miles and were talking happily, HR...66%

THM is spot on!!


 
Posted : 16/04/2012 6:15 pm
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Sooooo...

I've been doing a bit of research into porridge...

Seems to score low on GI and II and high on satiety. I've been eating 120g or so a day probably at times when I would've snacked on bread or maybe chocolate.

Is there something better that I could eat, why?


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 11:27 am
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What
Chocolate Eclairs

Why
Taste nicer.

I have porridge too each day, but mainly because there are never any Eclairs about.


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 11:44 am
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You should buy more eclairs!

I reckon that Cadbury's Eclairs mixed in with porridge might actually work, hmmm.


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 11:49 am
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I don't think I could move if I had 120g of porridge. LOL

Honey or golden syrup is the important question ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 11:55 am
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80g for breakfast emsz and another 40 in the evening or blended in a smoothy.

Ummm, I'm out of golden syrup so I mix it up with...

Peanut Butter & banana
Honey
Dried Fruit and Nuts
Plain
Or on Friday I had it with custard and grated chocolate.


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 11:58 am
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Microwave porridge with a creme egg or two put in for the last 20 seconds
food of champions (on iDay off of course) ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 12:01 pm
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Mini-Creme Eggs!!

I was going to add some galaxy caramel the other night...


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 12:03 pm
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I've been doing a bit of research into porridge...

Seems to score low on GI and II and high on satiety.

Made with water and a pinch of salt, or with full fat milk and golden syrup? ๐Ÿ™‚

Day 1 of iDiet in the miketually household: I had bacon and fried eggs for breakfast and the Mrs had the same but with added mushrooms and tomatoes (and less bacon).


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 12:09 pm
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don't forget veg too - spinach, asparagus, broccoli, all work with egg/pig combos


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 12:11 pm
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Just found another iDiet-friendly recipe on Stone Soup for a [url= http://thestonesoup.com/blog/2012/04/5-reasons-you-shouldnt-plan-your-meals-in-advance/ ]lentil-based tabbouleh[/url].


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 12:19 pm
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Right energy geeks, what do you think of Super-Starch?

[url] http://www.generationucan.com/pdf/technical-breakthrough-sports-innovation.pdf [/url]

Personally I associate Super Starch with some Daz washing powder advert, but maybe it really is 100% awesome! ?


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 12:53 pm
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Well. I popped to the gym mid morning.

I hit the bike and the free weights.

First thing I've had to eat today was lunch.
Chicken breast, tuna and a flippin scotch egg.

Will I crash and burn this afternoon ?.


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 1:27 pm
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I had 200g of mueseli for breakfast. Probably 700 calories. I try and just have boiled eggs but after a big weekend on the bike (100km mtb) I'm STARVING in the mornings.


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 1:31 pm
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[i]but after a big weekend on the bike (100km mtb)[/i]
๐Ÿ˜ฏ Blimey, no wonder you're hungry.

Where do you get a 60 mile ride then ?.

Oh, and try to resist the pull of Scotch Eggs.
Its a slippery slope of a one way street.
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Posted : 17/04/2012 1:35 pm
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Did HONC.....have a sportive or endurance mtb event every weekend until the Dragon in mid June. Four of us from Epping Forest are doing Transpyr first week of July, Med to Atlantic by mtb along the Pyrenees. Look at day 3....'kin hell.

http://www.transpyr.com/2012/en/02.html

We've all done big days on the bike but never one after the other like this. HONC was a reminder to start taking things seriously. Want to enjoy as much of it as I can, not be hurting all day every day.


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 1:39 pm
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[i]Med to Atlantic by mtb along the Pyrenees. Look at day 3....[b]'kin hell.[/b][/i]
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Yeah, I think thats about right, I'd agree with you there.
Still, sounds good, if you can take in a bit of the scenery, etc.

But that trip does look mental to a wuss such as I.

Reminds me of stories I've found about people in north america and some of the [i]races[/i] they hold there.
Like the one running North / South.

Pictrues of people who have competed in those are interesting.
They are sun baked, thin and their clothes are in tatters.
Takes them weeks to complete the course.
IIRC.

There TSY, a race such as that would test you.
[url] http://www.adventurecycling.org/routes/greatdivide.cfm [/url]


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 1:54 pm
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Solo - the Great Devide, or Tour Devide video that was on YouTube was really inspiring...

But I'd want to do it as a Tour not a race. Way too much scenery to enjoy etc, rather than suffer through.


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 2:29 pm
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[i]But I'd want to do it as a Tour not a race. Way too much scenery to enjoy etc, rather than suffer through[/i]

I couldn't agree more.

Although, stories of people encountering bears during the race, might cause a sudden increase in cadence.
I'm thinking ๐Ÿ˜‰
Regardless to quantity of ingested carbs at any given time.
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What training for escaping bears ?.


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 3:33 pm
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Oh and btw.

On the diet front.

How many coffees do people drink in a day and when throughout the day, do they tend to drink them ?.


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 3:35 pm
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How many coffees do people drink in a day and when throughout the day, do they tend to drink them ?.

2 before 2.


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 3:36 pm
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I have about 6 double espressos per day. I sleep well.


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 3:38 pm
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**Pops out for the first coffee of the day, a Medium Americano from the local Costa**


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 3:44 pm
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I guess about 6 cups of coffee at work, well coffee coloured instant stuff. And 3-4 cups of tea in the evening.


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 3:48 pm
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one coffee in the morning, 2 spoonfulls of coffee, 1 sugar, 50%water and 50% skimmed milk.

then gym/spinning = 750ml water

then drive to work = 600ml cookies and cream protein shake

then work = 1.5ltr water with 400ml-ish of no added sugar, not from concentrate healthy living OJ added in, tin of tuna, 4 eggs

then home = dinner or eccles cakes.

nom nom vom.


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 3:49 pm
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Black filter or cafetiere stuff only.

1 on the way to gym.
1 straight after with porridge.
1 at about 10/ half past
Sometimes another before I go at lunch.
1 after lunch
1 now.
Occasionally another before I leave work, depending on how tired I am.

So 5 a day, sometimes 7. Although I've been substituting some for green tea... in theory.


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 3:53 pm
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Had lots of coffee today...

But then I was on jagarbombs last night ๐Ÿ™


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 3:57 pm
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Phil - is that really what you're eating on a daily basis.

What training for escaping bears ?.

Bear fighting is some of the best training in itself.


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 3:57 pm
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No Yeti, it's what he's telling you he's had today.

In reality he's had a tesco meal deal ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 3:59 pm
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Just the one?? Wimp.


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 4:02 pm
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sometimes yeti, today i added a tin of spaghetti in tomato sauce and a slice of granary bread to my lunchtime eggs. dinner is normally a proper dinner but with certain iDiet principles in mind, sweet potatoes creep into dinners a fair bit to keep mrsconsequence happy.

worry not old bean, once i finish my cookies and cream protein shake i'll move onto a milk chocolate flavour one ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 17/04/2012 4:03 pm
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Good, good. My one man mission to ruin the protein supplement industry takes a step forward.

I eat for lunch what I had for tea the night before, almost without exception. Sometimes it's something we had so much of that it went in the freezer.

Roast dinners, curries, stir-fry... whatever. Makes life so easy, and colleagues envious.


 
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i've taught myself to like tuna, so instead of snacking on sweet things at certain points of the day i have a tin of tuna and that fills me up nicely/goes towards my protein intake.

i went through a stage of cooking mini-roast meals at work for lunch from scratch. once i get down to my target 9stone i'll start again.


 
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