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If a designated area is for loading and unloading, is it against the law to use to load or unload people? I.e dopping or picking someone up, during the specified time in the specified bay.
The "No waiting" section says
" No person shall wait or park any vehicle at any place where waiting is prohibited by any traffic sign, except for such as is reasonably necessary to allow persons to board or alight from a motor vehicle or to load or unload luggage."
However
The "no waiting except for loading or unloading, section says
"No person shall wait with or park any vehicle, except when actually loading or unloading goods, at the places demarcated with yellow......
So picking up or dropping off a person in a loading or unloading bay, for or against the law? I have asked three policemen/women and have been given different answers.
P.S apologies for the boring post but I do need answers.
Just make sure someone has a bag and claim that they are loading or unloading the bag?
I did wonder that as the person will have a bag. I'm not sure if that could be justified as what the intention of loading or unloading goods, would be?
(I hate this type of thing 🙁 )
find a traffic warden and ask them
Someone successfully contested a fixed penalty notice last year near me. Had placed his car in a bay marked loading, gone into shop, bought goods, loaded goods, found ticket. Cried foul, won.
I would've thought that the loading goods restriction is to stop people parking to unload other people. ie. to keep spaces free for goods vehicles.
Might be more here - http://www.ukmotorists.com/highway%20code.asp?s=Waiting%20and%20parking#900
I reckon that given there are specific instructions outlining loading/unloading of people & luggage and loading/unloading of goods, that one is not permitted in an area designated for the other. Otherwise there would just be a single catch-all for loading/unloading of persons, luggage and goods.
Yeah. Loading goods and picking up passengers are two different things as far as the Highway Code is concerned, as are 'stopping' and 'parking'.
Where are you getting those quoted 'sections' from? I've just looked briefly at the highway code and all I can find relating to loading is this,
[b]247[/b]Loading and unloading. Do not load or unload where there are yellow markings on the kerb and upright signs advise restrictions are in place (see 'Road markings'). This may be permitted where parking is otherwise restricted. On red routes, specially marked and signed bays indicate where and when loading and unloading is permitted.
[b][Law RTRA sects 5 & 8][/b]
RTRA is the Road Traffic Regulations Act. Section 5 basically says it's an offence to contravene the signs; section 8 says that it's an offence to contravene section 6(!), and section 6 is London-specific bylaws. So, it's against the law to ignore the signs.
The only stuff I can find relating to passengers is, you can't do it on School zigzags, but you can stop for passengers on a Clearway or double white lines.
The sections I quoted are from Gibraltar Law Thingamy, which is basically UK law but with specific bylaws, a bit like London has.
The matter has occurred due to new road marking and loading bays and a nursery. The parents have been told to use the bays to drop/pick up kids as it will not stop the flow of traffic. Local delivery drivers have been threatening the parents as they say they are blocking them from working. There have also been some parents ticketed for using the bays, while other days the Police, who are there, are happy with the bays being used by parents.
I wondered if there were similar cases in the UK as the laws in Gibraltar are pretty much the same.
The parents have been told to use the bays
... by whom?
What are the road markings?
May be of interest, similar situation:
http://www.pepipoo.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t53046.html
just open the boot and sit there waiting, when your passengers return get them to throw something into the boot eg coat handbag small child , shut the boot and away you go
Simples