[Closed] Tough decisions ahead (dog owner content).

It's a tough call- we were saved last year in that our old staffie/collie cross had a sudden heart attack at home but really grateful that he came into the lounge so that we were with him when he passed away.
End of the day you will know when the time is I'm sure- won't make it any easier though!

i had to have my 12 year old labbie put to sleep 5 years ago, i cried for the 1st time in my adult life.
felt like a ba5tard for days, but it was the best thing to do.
his back end had gone and he was messing without knowing it, so it had to be done.
swore i would never get another dog..........

molly is 2 years old now..............chin up mate

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yes prolonging death rather than life sadly. My 17 year old arthritic old mutt got its own body weight in chocolate in her final weeks. You know the dog whatever floats his boat shame but there comes a time for us all.

What about an electric blanket to go under him? Just check it will cope with urine etc as incontinence etc can be a problem too.Check out web for heatpads designed to be used by vets/hospitals etc.

Otherwise tlc as in special food but don't let him get fat as it'll make his legs worse.

That is very sad for you but he has done well to reach over 14. Don't wish to be heartless but why is Easter important? I perfectly understand the bond between master and dog, it is a unique one. You have to do what is right for him, do you truly believe he is in pain?

My retriever had to be put to sleep just a few days short of her 13th birthday, she had a stroke during the night. I stayed with during the night until the vet opened for an emergency appointment.

It's a horrible time for you so just cherish the good times cos there will have been plenty with a gundog, that's for sure.

Big bloke- is Molly a GSP- weve got a 18 month one- great dogs if a little highly strung- that pose is exactly the one mine is in next to me now- and he keeps stretching his stupidly long legs out and nearly knocking the laptop off my knee!

Don't know how I'll cope when my old fella starts to go. I love him more than family...

my jack russell molly died of heart attack wilst i was out on a night ride. my mum rang to tell me. i cried all the way home. still miss her 🙁

My springer got ran over 8 weeks ago and had his spine shattered and dislocated his leg. He has since had the ball cut of his rear right leg and his spine bolted back together. We started hydrotherapy for his recovery 5 weeks ago, he has gone from not walking at all and having to massage him so he could urinate. In 5 weeks of Hydro treatment he is now running after his ball and bouncing round in the snow.

It might be worth giving him a try at hydrotherapy sessions as the results for us have been incredible. Our dog is 7 though so Im not sure if your results would be as good.

In the days following his accident I mentioned to the wife that there was no way he was having a trolley. This was the dog that had biked/ran with me for years. I was all prepared for the inevitable after the accident but thankfully we found a really good vet surgeon who specializes in spinal injuries. I was a total wreck when I thought id loose him, grown man, 15st, 6', blubbering on like a girl. However I didnt care, he's my best pal.

Spoil your dog dog but do the right thing when you feel he needs it IMO.

pop larkin, pretty sure she is just a lab.

Body defo looks more pointer like albeit it is harder to tell upside down!

We had too make the decision with our 17 year old ESS bitch last year. Really tough call be her quality of life was had to be considered.
Gave her loads of short walks which is what she enjoyed, & loads of fish, her fav. & of course lots of personal attention.
Just wish the Vet had been better with the neddle, really didn't help made her yelp which broke the wife's heart.

My 17 year old arthritic old mutt got its own body weight in chocolate

Err...don't know how to tell you this, but that's probably what killed it!

http://www.vetrica.com/care/dog/chocolate.shtml

Sorry but disagree with probably most, do the right thing and take him to the vet to be put down shortly, so at least you can remember him when at least he was ok-ish - don't prolong his agony.

And yes I've a dog person, have one currently and my folks have always had dogs.

See if the vet will come to you. You get to choose the time, we went to the surgery and they euthanise as the last appointment. I sobbed.

if hes in such a bad state,do him the justice of letting him go, sooner rather than later.
we held on to our dog last year for about a month too long, it was the hardest thing we have ever done, and i still miss her now,but i maintain it was the right thing to do, dont put it off.
i have a tear in my eye typing this thinking of my dog
good luck whatever you decide

One thing that was suggested to me, and I dismissed it immediately, was using a pet crematorium and keeping her ashes. Fortunately I had a change of heart pretty quickly.

Some of her ashes have been scattered in her favourite areas including Swinley Forest. I also have some ashes at home in an urn but do keep them out of sight.

I haven't had a dog since, don't really think I could go through bereavement again. But I really want to be an Auntie and would love to be able to exercise a dog on a semi-regular basis.

See if the vet will come to you.

Yep, we have a great vet and when it came time for our lurcher Ali to go a few years ago he made a house call. Ali was very afraid of visiting the vet, and I didn't want my last memories of him to be of his fear. He died calmly in his bed while I stroked his head. Said my goodbyes and left the room so the vet could carry him away without me seeing.

It's the last and most selfless act of kindness you can make for your dog.

I feel for you mate, I really do.
I went through the same thing almost a year ago.
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My little Westie-Cross...Fatty McTavish, god bless him.
It was a big relief afterwards, & I didn't regret it for a second.

Toby cant tell you how much he's suffering.
I'll get my boys to say a little prayer for him, & give Fatty the nod to look out for him. 🙂
Best of wishes with it mate.

I've had to make the call for three of my cats, and my beloved Sam.
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He got bone cancer, by the time you notice anything it's too late and the cancer has spread. Work let me have a week off. He ate pork pies, cocktail sausages and tuna. He couldn't walk far so took him to the best bits by car and lifted him out so he could walk a bit. Vet came round and put him to sleep at home. 16.6.2006.

I feel for you Ti29er, but you gotta do what's right for your dog. Don't let him suffer.

Cheers All.
He's fine for the mo' but neighbours have been surprised at his decline over the Xmas period & the time is approaching when I'll made the decision. His leg is causing him some obvious discomfort and getting him upright is proving very difficult for him after a long sleep.

Short walks and making sure he's warm and having some fun at least - he still thinks he's a puppy and thinks he can bite me in our games together!
When the time comes, I'll take him up to the vet's for the final deed.

They have a service where they return the ashes in a few weeks so I'll scatter them below his favourite sun bathing spot out on the hill at the back of the property here.
I'm also going to mention it to some locals who are all big Tobes fans. In his endless wanderings he's gather around him a wider group of acquaintances than I have ("Ah! You must be Toby's Dad" & similar such comments).

Can't vary his diet too much or go too rich as he's been incontinent for a good 6 months. He's re-decorated the downstairs a few times of late & I've become the launderette's new, best customer (£15 every 10-15 days). If only they knew!

It will really help if someone close can come with you to the vet's. My adult son came, he was devasted, unlike my now ex-husband.

I had to clear the house of everything dog-related, hoovering for England as she moulted quite badly. But every morning I came downstairs and she wasn't there. Sorry, I'm shedding a few tears now.

Be strong.

I had Sam cremated individually and have his ashes in a box. It helped. Sometimes when I'm riding in the woods I think, imagine, wonder... is there a ghost of a big yellow dog running through the trees and laughing?

Anyway, I've got Missy now and I adore her.

Good luck.

our family dog was similar, looking back we probably left it too long before making the decision - prolonging his suffering rather than his life - he clearly wasn't having any fun, even eating was a chore

you want to remember him for the first 14 years, not the last 6 months

No.
I'm his Dad. I'm the one that will take him up to the Vet's - and not bring him home.

My last yellow Lab' had to be put down at almost 10 due to what must have been an ulcerated cancer somewhere within, so it was not a tough decision.
This is somewhat more complicated, but his quality of life comes first and I'll make that judgment call when it is needed.

I'd best get the local Tandoori Take-away menu out me thinks. 🙂
He's going to think all his Christmas's have come at once.

Goodness only know what his four legged pal, Danny, will make of being left on his own - he's like my shadow as it is, when Toby goes, I'm not sure quite what his response will be!

I'll upload some Xmas pics later.

Our 10yr old choc lab saved us the trouble by dying on us after she collapsed and was operated on, tumour on the spleen, lost to much blood internally. We waited to long with our previous dog 12yr old deerhound cross lurcher. We just couldn't bring ourselves to do it. Won't make that mistake again. Scattered her ashes on one of our favourite walks which coincides with a great ride over Blanchland Moor. Never have a problem getting away for a ride if I tell the wife I'm off to see Holly Dog!

dogs get into you and form part of your life, its a bit grim, what can I say.

Almost lost Monty last year when his spleen burst, the lad pulled through.

Do what you think is right for the lad and ....well dig deep.

The dogs welfare come first,and while it is an absolutely horrible thing you will have to do with your wee pal,it really is in his best interests.I was heartbroken when I lost my wee collie to cancer,but the fact that he is buried looking out onto the Fannichs is some consolation.You can never replace the space left by your 4 legged best mate,but we now have two collies that were rescued from a home that cared not a jot for their welfare,and they make the loss of my wee fella a bit easier to take.RIP Corrie!

Putting out of his misery? No, not for me especially own pet(s). Our dog died at age around 18 or 20 when he was nearly deaf and blind but we kept looking after him until his last minute. Same with our cats.

People tell me I was lucky that Onza my GSD passed in the night rather than a long drawn out illness. He was just unsteady for a few days but didn't seem to be in pain. He didn't quite make ten years. The bottom line is, there's no nice way for it to happen so don't search too hard for one. Also, easier said than done, but don't feel guilty for it afterwards. Two things I will say though. A dogs tollerance of pain is much higher than that of a human so trust the vets opinion on how much he's suffering. Also, consider an individual cremation. It's more expensive but you know that what you get back are the remains of your best mate and not "token remains" from a mass cremation.

Ti29er - can't offer you any words of wisdom, other than what the others have said above, as we don't have a dog at present, but when the time comes happy to join you on a ride to help you get over it (I think you're round my way somewhere - near Jct 18).

Cheers Ononeorange

my thoughts are with you Ti29er. I lost my staffie 1 month before his 15th birthday 6 years ago, I cried like a baby. I did the individual cremation thing and scattered his ashed in the river at his favourite paddling spot. I'm sure you will know when the time is right.

I believe dogs suffer alot more pain/endure alot simply as they are eager to please their master.

My girlfriend had a Yorkshire Terrier that was crackers about me. Used to walk with me everywhere off the lead (used to leg it asap with anyone else). At 14yrs old we decided to have him put to sleep when his back end started going. 🙁

With my westie Bingo - I wouldnt hesitate as soon as he starts to show signs of suffering. I am not a believer in keeping a dog alive just to please his owners conscience.

All the best.

It's odd isn't it?
You wake up the morning, only to find your head has become detached from your torso, your left arm won't work and you can no longer feel your feet.
You trundle up to the Dr's surgery and damn it!
There's no longer a single symptom!

A slow but manageable 45 min wander around the fields is my reward for this posting. I think he's taking the Mick sometimes!.

Good days and bad days I suppose.
Thanks for the words - it's the business of being a dog owner and comes with the territory, every 10-15 years you have a family bereavement. Not that it actually makes it any easier, even as you get older, it's difficult and heartbreaking.

Orange - I'm in Watford / Bushey. You? WD19

Was in Whippendell yesterday, buddy. I'm HP7 - just up by Little Chalfont. Used to be Chorleywood (with the black rabbits on the common).

Yes, that's very odd isn't it!
I come across the Common on my 2hr weekly training ride, Ebury Way, turn off the canal path at the Coy Carp, up Shires Way, across the Common then down by the crematorium, coming into the back of WDWoods by the Clarendon.
We should hook up some time.

Absolutely - occasional nightriding, but Sundays are good. A regualr route of mine, that.

Drop me an email - jamesandrews23@yahoo.co.uk

Cheers

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It's the hardest thing you'll ever have to do - signing the bit of paper at the vet. We've just been through it, and we both cried like babies for two whole days afterwards. Nothing anyone can say will make it any easier. Deep down you'll know when the time is right, and that time is when not doing the deed is worse for the dog than keeping him alive.

You will get over it, but we're still not over the last animal we lost and that was over 2 years ago. Think positive - if you love them so much to cry over them, then they've probably had a good life. It's better for them to die in your arms than under a bush or a lorry.

It's a gut wrenching time and you have my sympathy. I'll have to go, I'm starting to weep just writing this, but things will get better - eventually.

How's Toby?

Bizarrely, he seems to have rallied!
Over Xmas he really did not have a joyful time.
Then the snows seemed to awaken the kid in him again and it was easier on his leg which he pretty much drags after about 15 mins walking.

2 yrs ago he snapped a tendon in his LR elbow (hock?) and he's lost a great deal of muscle from his rear end, meaning he's not very steady and struggles to get up once lying down.
But of late he's been great!

Thanks for inquiring after his health.

I have a 14 1/2 year old Staff who is unfortunately in the same boat. I love him dearly but he is struggling up and down the stairs. He is no longer able to go for walks, he just manages into the garden is all.Some days his eyes are bright and his nose, cold and wet. On other days he looks like he's had enough.

Its a cliche, but you know when its time.

Its very hard when dogs get to the end isnt it> I still remember bringing him home as a pup. He is my best friend.

Just to let you know, although it makes it no easier, we are in the same position.

Ti29er - that is good news. I do hope he is now stabilised.

Merak - yes, it will be a tough decision.

If you havn't already it might be worth trying glucosamine tablets or powder, it worked wonders with my old cat and kept him going for a good few years. Eventually he had a tumour in his eye and we had to let him go, We'd had him from when I was 11 to 30yo. I was devasted to say the least but it wasn't fair on him to keep him going, that's just being selfish.... Unfortunately had the same scenario lately with my lovely gran who we buried today. 😥

Not a dog but cat, ours was 21, nearly 22 when his organs failed and that was that, off to vets, did'nt come back. It's the thing, you don't want to let go...but you do, the time comes when it comes, when that really is, you simply don't know...but, as long as you think he's happy, all good, if not, do the thing..not easy, but then, death never is.

hope he's good, you never know..could have years ahead.

forgive the rambling...been at pub

A friend sent me this...

Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge.
When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge. There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together. There is plenty of food, water and sunshine, and our friends are warm and comfortable.

All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor. Those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by. The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing; they each miss someone very special to them, who had to be left behind.
They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent. His eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to run from the group, flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster.

You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart.

Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together....

Author unknown...

aww man its hard just reading this. I cried at a work's do the day our dog was put down. I'd grown up with her from 10 - 23 so she was my little sister. My boss totally mocked me for crying about a dog, and lost all my respect in one go.

Funny how, if you don't have a dog, you just don't get it at all.

I know, I have heard "It's only a dog" from non-dog owners. It is so much more than that.