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Last night they where discussing Sheffield,and asked for somebody to come up to the presenters,the young chap who came up,decided to extend his arm round James May,this caused the other two so called adults to jump up,and make various comments,worthy of a juunior school class,hammond even made a show of refusing to sit on the same seat as the young lad had just vacated.For whatever reason.
The comments where intended to be veiled inuendo about the lads sexuality,and his freindship towards James May.
Seems as if Homophobia is still rife in the middle-aged,middle class,BBC.
They wern't discussing sheffield at that point but a fizzing feel just behind your penis.
Yeah the middle-aged, middle-class 'lads' of Top Gear are quite embarrassingly cringy to watch sometimes - can be entertaining sometimes though. I was watching one on Dave the other day where they were making thinly veiled s****y comments about some car that had been owned by Elton John and Liberace etc and what that implied about owning one.
But homophobia is fine, criticizing them for it is political correctness gone mad.
just showed them to have a very poor level of natural wit IMO.
ok as presenters (just), but as on the spot spontaneous comedians, they are clearly lacking.
hence the whole show now coming accross as an over-scripted bizarre farce.
The last two shows, apres watershed have been closer to the bone IMO.
Had it of been a fat lass with a moustache they wouldn't of wanted a hug either.
You'd be calling them fattist now presumably?
If you don't understand how humour works don't watch a comedy show.
It is part of their latest, year long challenge to see who can become the most annoying Top Gear presenter.
So is it ok,to refuse to sit down on a seat,that may have been sat on by a possibly gay man.
If you don't understand how humour works don't watch a comedy show
I think they might just be saying that making jokes about gay people is not funny ...Do you still laugh at racist jokes then 5th? or have you , at least partly , said farewell to 70's?
thats not news.
I think they might just be saying that making jokes about gay people is not funny ...Do you still laugh at racist jokes then 5th? or have you , at least partly , said farewell to 70's?
Get over yourself. You know what top gear humour is, there are a hundred other channels, make a choice.
If you don't understand how humour works don't watch a comedy show.
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If you really think that going 'urghh you're a gay get away from me' is high-brow humour then you have a lot of growing up to do.
If you really think that going 'urghh you're a gay get away from me' is high-brow humour then you have a lot of growing up to do.
If you're looking for high-brow anything you won't find it on top gear.
No but apparently you have to 'understand how humour works'. Personally I'd just quite like to watch a light-hearted programme about cars without childish homophobia.
Top Gear isn't very good. It's not even funny. It's the McDonald's of TV.
Chimps on TV motoring show not world class comedic actors shocker!
In the same way musichall isn't the same as opera, but its always been more lucrative to be popular over being a class act.
have you asked any gay people from sheffield if they were offended, or are you just being offended for them?
lots of touchy folk about these days.
dont mind a non pc joke me,it depends whats funny about it.more often than not it the wrongness of it thats funny.allways best when told by someone you would least expect it of.
I'm not offended, I just find it cringeworthy and embarassing to watch sometimes - which is a shame as I quite like it most of the time.
I find all sorts of incredibly un PC stuff amusing - Frankie Boyle for example, but the difference is that he is funny, and sometimes makes some valid points with his humour.
Not just going 'urghh your a gay get away from me'.
Another dead hero,
Sorry i dont know any gay people from Sheffield so cant ask them,but i read in the media of gay people being assaulted and even killled for their sexuality,and a programe sposored by us the tax payer and TV licence holder,to propogate such purile comments and images in the minds of people of little understanding of acceptable behaviour is wrong.
It wasn't offensive, just a very lame episode -as was the previous one.
[url= http://transmission.blogs.topgear.com/2009/11/15/series-14-the-detail/ ]From the Producer's blog on the TG website:[/url]
[i]"I think show one is strong and show two, where the boys build their own electric car is, I would humbly say, a belter – a little bit of magic happens when they’re all together in one car, Renault Espace convertible stuff."[/i]
Top Gear was really good in the past, but they've obviously run out of ideas, which is only to be expected.
Resorting to 'nob gags' and using 'rude words' is a sign of desperation by the producers.
It may be clichéd, but they are now flogging a dead horse.
[i]"Show three is, gasp, for people who like cars, because we want to explore this question of which car company made the greatest number of great cars – and we’ll be asking you for your thoughts very soon on that one. So yeah, show three is a bit geeky, [/i]
Apologising for featuring cars?? Heaven forbid that there might be something technical...
I thought it was in some way a car show? It's supposed to be "geeky".
[i]"...and to balance that out we’ve got James’s Caravan Airship film, which will take an exalted place in the pantheon of Cutting Edge Cocking About"[/i]
To balance out a car show they'll be showing a 'hilarious' Caravan Airship film... I may be being unfair, James [i]might[/i] come up with something good, as he does on his solo TV programmes(and the [u]first[/u] series with Oz Clarke)
If I watch the next episode it will be on iPlayer, so that I can watch the "geeky" bit and ignore the rest.
If you don't understand how humour works don't watch a comedy show
if you don't understand how humour works don't attempt it on national tv?
top gear is shit and everyone knows it, yet we (well, you more than me) watch it regardless and then moan about how shit it is. whether this is because we (you) are stupid and will lap up anything offered or that there is a lack of anything decent on tv is another matter for us (you).
Is it supposed to be funny because they're pretending to be 7-year-olds? I was convinced you could get the bad AIDS from being touched by a gay when I was 7. If I pretended to be 7 now, that could be pretty funny. Certainly funny enough for me to get paid a vast amount of money for it anyway. 🙂
It did seem a bit odd to me. I like James but Clarkson is a bit odd really and Richard seems to be a Clarkson wannabe. Kinda reminds me of the old Spitting Image sketches with David Owen and David Steel.
My friend once said to me in a discussion about how much we disliked TG - "Just because it's stupid to do something, it doesn't make it all post-modern and ironic to go ahead and do it anyway" - which describes the stupidity of what they do. It's just not that funny anymore.
And I watch it - Aaaargh, but only because I know it'll be discussed at length here and I need to know what is being debated...and occasionally, just occasionally, they do an article about a car in which I'm interested. I love the Stig taking a mentalist car around the track as much as the next guy. There was an episode last season where they finished with JC driving a new better-than-the-one-before Aston and he didn't even bother reviewing it - just words to the effect of "it's an Aston Martin with a V12...what did you think it would be like" set to a good soundtrack and wonderful footage of it blasting through a quiet road in the middle of nowhere as the credits rolled. This I concede, is what TG can still do very well.
That episode last week where they drove half a million quid's worth of supercar through areas of Romania where people live on the edge of poverty and starvation - calling them gypsies when they obviously weren't - bordered, not on racism, but certainly middle-england style Telegraph/Daily Mail inspired xenophobia. And the whole show was based around this constant s****ing at another country's social problems. Maybe I'm being over-sensitive, but it really just wasn't funny or clever or intelligent or anything else positive.
god here we go again...
YOU CAN CHANGE CHANNEL!
i thought it was funny as hell!
the world has gone PC bloody mad!
It is telly. Telly does this.
How do you feel about shows like Have I Got News For You and Mock the Week? Or Brass Eye?
What was it they said all those years ago on Why Don't You?
Don't watch it. Or whinge to the BBC. They have a complaints dept which I don't think will monitor the STW forum.
YOU CAN CHANGE CHANNEL!
No need to shout - I know I can. I don't complain to the BBC about it. I have a whinge here and to some of my more enlightened friends about it and try to convince some of my less enlightened ones that it's all bollocks and not that funny. So I watch it, just to see how stupid they are this week. Just because I can change channel, it doesn't mean that I can't voice an opinion about it.
the world has gone PC bloody mad!
Sorry, just enlighten me how not finding three prats driving half a million pound's worth of cars through impoverished areas, laughing at the "natives" and the "gypsies", staging a "crash" where it was implied that the "gypsy" had crashed his old banger into the Lambo on purpose funny is "gone PC bloody mad!"?
i thought it was funny as hell!the world has gone PC bloody mad!
Yeah if only we could openly abuse ****s and gays in the streets like we used to be able to eh? PC gone mad.
As pointed out earlier, I quite like Top Gear, could just do without the primary school humour.
Another dead hero,Sorry i dont know any gay people from Sheffield so cant ask them,but i read in the media of gay people being assaulted and even killled for their sexuality,and a programe sposored by us the tax payer and TV licence holder,to propogate such purile comments and images in the minds of people of little understanding of acceptable behaviour is wrong.
Oh sorry, I missed the bit where Clarkson suggested you take an iron fence railing to the nearest gay. I'd have got a bit miffed about that, from personal experiance.
OK, so TG is rubbish at post-modern gay bashing. Just turn over, no one is forcing you to watch it and if you really hate it, write to the BBC, don't bitch about it on internerd forums like the nodding daily wail dog.
project is right
[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8306481.stm ]homophobic murder last month[/url]
pc mad change the channel, etc the point is the failed attempt at wit by the presenters (the minute they leave the script it seems) makes homophobia a little bit more ok among the uneducated masses, quite a few of whom watch top gear i suspect
if you really hate it, write to the BBC, don't bitch about it on internerd forums like the nodding daily wail dog.
And if you really like it, don't bitch about it on internerd forums where other internerds are having a bitch about it - there are other forums you know.
I rarely watch it any more but do girls who apply for tickets have to send a photograph of themselves first?
OK, so TG is rubbish at post-modern gay bashing. Just turn over, no one is forcing you to watch it and if you really hate it, write to the BBC, don't bitch about it on internerd forums like the nodding daily wail dog.
This is a chat forum, if you don't like threads talking about Top Gear presenters being nobs, why open a thread with this title? Bitching about people bitching really gives you the moral high ground eh?
Personally I thought the lad with a tash was probably a stooge.
The whole thing looked scripted to me. The way he put is arm around/over May's shoulder, just looked fake. All 3 presenters looked like cocks in that section.
You have to accept TG for what it is. Playground humour with a loosely car based theme.
No such thing as bad publicity of course though is there
Bitching about people bitching really gives you the moral high ground eh?
Aye, its lovely up here.
I don't mind you bitching about it at all, I don't even really like TG much, milding amusing, nothing more, but winding you bunch of morally outraged muppets up is highly entertaining.
*rolls out towel*
*sunbathes in hatred*
Yeah if only we could openly abuse ****s and gays in the streets like we used to be able to eh? PC gone mad.
what are you suggesting mate, you don't even know me, so get off ye high horse.
Sorry, just enlighten me how not finding three prats driving half a million pound's worth of cars through impoverished areas, laughing at the "natives" and the "gypsies", staging a "crash" where it was implied that the "gypsy" had crashed his old banger into the Lambo on purpose funny is "gone PC bloody mad!"?
funny thing is you actually watched the whole clip, if you were that offended why not turn off. and then go and watch last nights episode after being so offended by last weeks??
*sunbathes in hatred*
Oh you're a troll, congratulations.
get a life people......seriously get out more.
Oh you're a troll, congratulations.
A self confessed serial wind up merchant yes, but I stand by my point.
Saying some sh^t jokes on a tired TV programme are tantamount to inciting homophobic GBH is moronic, and undermines the seriouness of such assault. Just becuase you can't deliniate between a stupid rubbish joke and smashing a gays face in becuase he's a nancy boy, dosn't mean you should be allowed to police all slightly off colour jokes from the screen.
I watched it.
I thought it was funny.
Again, see Frankie Boyle for non-PC humour that isn't just s****ing schoolboys saying 'you're a gay' and is actually funny.
I'm not even saying it should be policed, just that I think it's pretty pathetic.
Best show on TV and just about the only thing worth watching these days.
Infantile schoolboy humour. What's not to like? It's quite refreshing when 99.9% of TV is either totally sterile for fear of offending anyone, or X Factor style reality drivel.
The only thing on TG I have ever found offensive was their treatment of that dead cow they once strapped to the roof of a Camaro while in the US. The same episode in which Hammond drove a pick up across Alabama with 'Man Love Rules OK' on the side of it.
Lighten up people.
*sunbathes in hatred*
You mis-spelled "boredom".
HTH
funny thing is you actually watched the whole clip, if you were that offended why not turn off
You keep missing my point - if I'm that offended (not really [i]that[/i] offended, just a bit) why should I turn off. Three blokes behave childishly and a bit offensively - so I watch it so that I can draw a full conclusion about it - because there's bound to be a bit of shit-chat about it on my favourite "internerd" forum during the week.
then go and watch last nights episode
Yep, I plan to do that very thing, so get ready for some more moral outrage...I'll the one sat with grumm on the other very high horse.
OOOPS: shit-chat should have read chit-chat but I'm leaving it now, because I quite like it.
Infantile schoolboy humour. What's not to like?
Nothing really, if you're an infantile schoolboy. Gob-stoppers anyone?
So what you're saying is, Frankie Boyle does jokes funnier than Top Gear.
Amazing.
Granted, the 'urg that is so gay', 'yo bruv, that shirt is well gay' thing is getting old, but to suggest TG-esque comedy is going to breed a new batch of young Bernard Mannings, is a bit of a leap. The kiddies are all too busy playing on the X-boxes to listen to three balding greying old giffers anyway, huh?
Haz I Pwnd U yet?
Seems like they couldn't be arsed thinking up fresh ideas for this series. Bit disappointed really.
really stating the obvious that they are prats. Always have been.
They did used to be more entertaining though.
The direction and filming in the features is still very good.
It's quite refreshing when 99.9% of TV is either totally sterile for fear of offending anyone, or X Factor style reality drivel.
Is that a real statistic? If so, let us have a link or reference - I'm not so sure that 99.9% of TV is made up of Lark Rise To Candleford and X-Factor type stuff - but if it is, then I'm obviously watching a different country's TV.
Or was it just made up on the spot?
I think the real statistic is 90.786583749083509485248720578%
Of course, he could have been exaggerating for comic effect, which is stupid really, becuase Frankie Boyle does that kind of thing so much better, he shouldn't have even bothered.
There was a nice clip on 'The Impression Show'.
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DrJ - Member
Infantile schoolboy humour. What's not to like?
Nothing really, if you're an infantile schoolboy. Gob-stoppers anyone?
I'm 33, but happy to admit my sense of humour hasn't advanced that much since school. I think it makes a nice change to prat about a bit when the rest of life is so serious.
Also, I really don't see how edging away in jest from a creepy guy in a tracksuit with a paedo-tache who puts their arm around you is tantamount to homophobia? Get real.
Would anyone rather we went back to the Top Gear of old where a range of very dull presenters test drive the latest Ford Orion or Nissan Micra and comment on how a rear wash-wipe is an optional extra on the 1.3L but not on the 1.3 LX or how disappointing the mpg is?
cheap shot, troll etc.......it's Top Gear, its fun for people who like it and for people who don't like it, it's something new to moan about other than their tyre pressures
I like it so there - if you don't, turn the channel
I bet you people are the types that complained to Ofcom about the Brand/Ross thing without hearing it
deadlydarcy - Member
It's quite refreshing when 99.9% of TV is either totally sterile for fear of offending anyone, or X Factor style reality drivel.
Is that a real statistic? If so, let us have a link or reference - I'm not so sure that 99.9% of TV is made up of Lark Rise To Candleford and X-Factor type stuff - but if it is, then I'm obviously watching a different country's TV.Or was it just made up on the spot?
Of course it was made up on the spot, it's a perfectly common turn of phrase. Couldn't you find anything else to be pedantic about?
paedo-tache
what exactly does a paedo-tache look like? I was thinking of growing a comedy tache for Christmas (I was thinking Mexican style) to amuse my 7 year old nephew. I really need to stear clear of paedo-tache territory.
at what point did the world come down to this? if you dont like something dont watch it! get a grip on reality, try going outside instead of moaning about something you cant do anything about, im goin for a ride.
May I just say I watched Top Gear last night, and may I state for the record that it invoked no urges whatsoever to assault, maim or murder any homosexuals from Sheffield.
I did laugh on a number of occasions though.
Thanks.
at what point did the world come down to this? if you dont like something dont watch it!
Great philosophy - don't express an opinion about anything, just ignore it. Could be an improvement for TG, though. "The cornering on this Bonga X93 sucks!!" "Never mind, just go in a straight line".
Of course it was made up on the spot, it's a perfectly common turn of phrase
Hmmm, I don't know...sometimes, you hear "ninety per cent" and some times "ninety five per cent" and sometimes "ninety nine per cent" too. Would you say that 99.9% of the time, people use "99.9%" over the others? It may have been pedantic, but just chucking in a ridiculous statistic to strengthen your point actually weakens it.
Frankie Boyle does that kind of thing so much better
On that we are very much agreed - best leave these kind of gross exaggerations to those who who are good at them...and I think you and Len are struggling.
Made me laugh like a drain for the whole hour & thats all that matters, if it contains traces of homophobic & racism then all the better!
I just think there's something fantastically ironic about a man with well groomed hair and wearing a bead necklace making a joke about another man being gay.
Unless of course these are now indicators of a chaps masculinity ?
I bet you people are the types that complained to Ofcom about the Brand/Ross thing without hearing it
You couldn't be further from the truth.
And for all the people saying 'change the channel', for the millionth time, I quite like Top Gear, but there is quite a bit of it that makes me cringe, and I seriously wonder about the people who find those bits amusing.
if it contains traces of homophobic & racism then all the better!
:facepalm:
and I think you and Len are struggling.
Damn! Play me off Johnny!
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Next up, the whited-up Jackson 3.
I wish I had a clue what you're talking about. Is your trolling failing and you're getting a bit wound up yourself now?
no hes referncing family guy when a joke fails these guys have to make a quicj exit in a music hall style
funnily enough family guy often focuses on gay issues and homophobia and its way more entertaining than top gear
Yeah, are there any internerd forums you know of where I can complain that TG is less funny than some other show? Like Family Guy? I really need to spend my time ineffectually complaining about it.
The original point i was trying to make and it appears failing with some,is that the use of homophobic language and actions is not funny,it panders to a certain element in society who are always looking for the weakest to pick on,and if clarkson etal,say and show its ok,then they accept it,like sheep.
Not thinking for one moment,that the mate they go to the pub or rideing with may be gay,and may be hideing his sexuality,from the bigots he has for so called freinds.
Also why refuse to sit down on a seat that has been sat upon by another man,just how childish can one be.
As for the off button,yes thats easy,but the programe does have some good bits,and it was just the homophobic bit that caused offence.
As for the off button,yes thats easy,but the programe does have some good bits,and it was just the homophobic bit that caused offence.
it was hardly homophobia, it's not like they started jumping homosexuals in the street.
Seems to me if you're going to get all pi55ed off about that mabye we should start picking the forums to bits. I beleive Jey has some sort of conotation, there's usually a weekly post on here regarding obese people. What about BMW/Audi drivers, drivers in general, van drivers, traffic wardens, buses, bus lanes, taxi's, singlespeeders and so on and so forth
mabye its more about growing a pair
Who mentioned him being gay? You assume that was the reason, I thought it was just because he was a very odd young man who confessed to having a fizzing behind his penis whilst driving a Citreon AX...
I really need to spend my time ineffectually complaining about it
Well, you're certainly setting the bar here today for inneffectuality. However, when the troll gets more wound up than the trollees, now that's funny.
Hey I'm not wound up, I'm having a whale of a time.
(was that fattist? Apologies to any porkie bloaters out there)
mabye its more about growing a pair
Damn Straight!
I like Top Gear - it gives me a fizzing feeling behind my penis.
Does that mean I should go out & beat myself up or does it mean I dont take it too seriously..
I'd just like to add, Clarkson's constant anti Audiisms (repeated with his 'slating' of the R8 last night) are just becoming too much. He can go on and on about his other isms as much as he likes but anti Audi is taking things just a bit too far.
That's all.
I don't remember anything mentioned about said young man being gay! I though it was because he looked greasy & unwashed and perhaps a little out of the ordinary, It wasn't a very nice reaction they gave the young man who may have learning difficulties of some sort, so it was uncomfortable humour of sorts. 😕
RepacK - Member
I like Top Gear - it gives me a fizzing feeling behind my penis.Does that mean I should go out & beat myself up
Errr, more like 'off' probably....
I must have dozed off. Which bit was the homophobic bit? Was it before or after the odd looking audience member came up and sat next to James?
I must have dozed off. Which bit was the homophobic bit? Was it before or after the odd looking audience member came up and sat next to James?
No that was it, he was [i]obviously[/i] gay, and TG was [i]obviously[/i] making grossly offensive homophobic jokes. Luckily, several STW members have leapt to the aid of the poor, effeminate gays, who are completely incapable of defending themselves, the poor little lambs.
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deadlydarcy - Member
Of course it was made up on the spot, it's a perfectly common turn of phrase
Hmmm, I don't know...sometimes, you hear "ninety per cent" and some times "ninety five per cent" and sometimes "ninety nine per cent" too. Would you say that 99.9% of the time, people use "99.9%" over the others? It may have been pedantic, but just chucking in a ridiculous statistic to strengthen your point actually weakens it.
Like I said, it's a turn of phrase which means 'most'...are you really arguing about this? Can I no longer say most X Factor is crap or are you worried I might offend Simon Cowell?
Is anyone on here actually a homosexual who was really offended by someone edging away from a creepy guy with a moustache who said he had a fizzing sensation behind his penis giving him a hug? If not then you really need to get a life rather than being offended and outraged on someone elses behalf. I must have missed the part when they said 'homosexuality is an assault to God and all gays should be beaten with sticks'
This thread is not giving me a fizzing feeling behind my penis. 🙁
This thread is not giving me a fizing feeling behind my penis.
Hang on I am on my way 😉