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Nothing else was open so took my 3y daughter into FitnestFirst as she needed to pee. Was told it was 'members only'. Though about letting her go right there in reception.
What is with business?
Do most places let kids in for free?
hmm, good point, poor rant
& they always leave it to the last second..
is she a member?
BigButSlimmerBloke
Obviously you've never been a parent with a kid that needs to pee.
My sister has a little fold out potty thing for her kids to use if caught short.
It has a bag in it with crystals in it that turn the pee to a solid gel. It can then be knotted up & disposed of.
Perhaps you need one of these??
EDIT - I should have added that while I can see them not letting adults walk in & use the loo's they should perhaps show some discretion when dealing with young kids....
Earl. I appreciate your point and your frustration, and for a business seeking to recruit customers it would do them no harm, but...
Would you expect an office to let you in to do the same?
Would you knock on a private house and expect them to let her in?
Would you expect an office to let you in to do the same?
Would you knock on a private house and expect them to let her in?
Ah come on, it's just pettiness. ****ing jobsworths. When I've worked in shops and that, if someone desperately needed to use the loo, I'd let 'em. No bother, is it? And in a place like FF, where there are toilets for use by lots of people, what's the harm in letting a child in to have a wee? Tossers.
Though about letting her go right there in reception.
That's exactly what I would have done, actually. Then, I'd have had a shit myself, then thrown it in their faces. Bastards.
Would you expect an office to let you in to do the same?
Would you knock on a private house and expect them to let her in?
I would expect anywhere that let members of the public in to allow her, not sure an office or a private house is a good comparison
Personally, I'd have just ignored them & gone though [if you could]
when a kid needs to go, they need to go. they don't always understand that the nearest public toilet is miles away. Besides, its not like he wanted to breast feed her on their front desk! but, thats a whole other kettle of fish
let members of the public
They don't though do they? They let members of a private club in?
(as you've found out)
But yeah I'm inclined to think '****ing jobsworths' too tbh.
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OP how did you resolve the problem? Back alley?
They should have more public bogs IMO
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I would have taken her in any way. There are 'public' (ok ,not quite) loos there.
Which one was it? Name and shame, then we'll all send an email to the manager. (well, those of us who think it was out of order [the refusal, not the loo]).
No, no- better than that:
We all turn up en masse, demanding to use the loo. Those with young children, bring them along. When They refuse, we all defecate and urinate all over their foyer.
Then see how they like it...
It's the only language these people understand.
No, but really, the e-mailing thing we can actually do
Emails they can ignore.
A foyer waist-deep in Human Excrement they cannot, however....
You should have told them your daughter is addicted to heroin and needs some where discrete to cook up, fitnessfirst in Swindon always fall for that one when I'm rfid tagging the feral children of Swindon.
Can't understand why you're all getting worked up 😕
Their establishment, their choice. If I'd taken my kids in and got declined I would assume that was their policy and gone somewhere else... inconvenient maybe but not worthy of a rant imo
I thought that 'shops'* open to the public have to let you use the facilities if you ask?
* businesses, trades, whatever...
Yes, their choice but it doesn't mean they didn't chose to be dicks about it
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Yes, their choice but it doesn't mean they didn't chose to be dicks about it
How were they dicks about it? They said no, provided a reasonable justification.
Elfin - whilst I agree with you in principle, I cant help but notice that you seem a little, how can I put this, keen on the idea of flinging excrement. I would expect that from an enraged mandrill, for instance, but I'm somewhat intrigued that an otherwise urbane and intelligent individual such as yourself would consider acting as though he was starring in a rather niche gentleman's relaxation film.
How is lack of membership a reasonable justification? It might be a rule, but it doesn't mean the rule is reasonable
Never been refused anywhere when I have asked for my small child would have literally have let them pee outside the front door...that will learn them what a jobsworth.
a rather niche gentleman's relaxation film.
I know nothing of such things. This is Captain Flashheart's territory.
I take my inspiration from the Maze Prison.
I cant help but notice that you seem a little, how can I put this, keen on the idea of flinging excrement.
Ooh yes. What's not to like?
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I've been the 'flingee' on far too many occasions. Ah well, that's forensic psychiatry for you!
So it's their choice but they can't say "members only" ❓
To my mind the problem here is the lack of public facilities, and theres really no requirement for a private establishment to make up for that lack.
Does seem a bit mean tho.
They can, but that is what makes them dicks. Ef Earl was a member, but his daughter was not, they would still be able to refuse her. Would that still be ok by you?
They wouldn't do that and you know it!
But they could, and if someone complained here would you still say "They said no, provided a reasonable justification."
Should have gone to Virgin, no to be honest I think a child should never be refused the use of any toilets be they be at a "private" gym or not, don't think you'd have had that problem at the Solihull one.
don't think you'd have had that problem at the Solihull one.
Of course not! All of Solihull is a toilet.
That's why I don't live there. 😆
Charlie I'm only yanking your chain 😛
Charlie I'm only yanking your chain
Well, I certainly got flushed!
I got found out through your cistern-atic arguing!
Yes, there was no way your motion would be passed.
She only needed to pee, that's what bushes are for. Still, bad form for Fitness First.
She only needed to pee, that's what bushes are for.
out of order coffeeking, she's only 3, and its a reductive misogynistic view of women/girls!
Fitness First - Bristol centre (Millennium Square) It was early so the public toilets nearby were closed.
Basically FF are saying - 'Your daughter is 3. In the foreseeable future, we can not profit from letting her use our toilets even though the cost to us is nil. - She can pee in the bushes.'
We used to own a simple farm shop. Of course we let anybody who asked used our toilets. Lots did not end up being customers. Because we were on a main road there were plenty tourists that we would never see again that had no use for the products we were selling.
Taking that a step further, before the farm shop, Grandma (who lived with us) had a honest box setup at the gate. She used to let people in to use the toilet in the house.
Using a toilet is a basic human function. You can put of eating/drinking/sleeping for a short time but using the loo is more inelastic - especially for kids/old.
People forget that you don't have to extract profit from everything you do.
Don't go to Norway, you seemed to have to pay 5 Norwegian Kroner (50p ish) for a wee there.
It must have been the Harbourside one, as it is on millennium square.
I also used to be a member there, the toliets are disgusting usually, but they should of let you in.
next time - the 24hr Gala Casino just down the road will let you in i am sure.
bristolharbourside@fitnessfirst.com
What's the postal address for the incoming onslaught of jobbies in jiffy bags?
(Weighs poo to work out the postage costs. Dithers over First Class, Recorded or Parcelforce options)
sent. Mail, not poo
Yep they're b@stards until you or your daughter have an accident on the premises and are injured, but not covered by insurance because your not members. 😯
Most gyms I've visit the loos are in the changing rooms which would mean you would need to be escorted by a member of staff - what's to say you are a group of theiving pikeys conning your way in?
Their building don't see a problem with there policy.
3yr old gutter behind a parked car......
Piss poor, time rich.
ps in London you need a key from staff to go for a Mcshit......even if you are a customer
ps in London you need a key from staff to go for a Mcshit......even if you are a customer
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myheadsashed - Memberps in London you need a key from staff to go for a Mcshit......even if you are a customer
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and if you claim to be a customer when you're not, that's a McShit with Lies.
Yep they're b@stards until you or your daughter have an accident on the premises and are injured, but not covered by insurance because your not members.
feeble excuse. How about public liability insurance or similar. How about if you walk in to join but have an accident whilst waiting. To be honest, I just waiting for FF to reply with that excuse. Every shop in the land has no members arriving there. That's just pish
and if you claim to be a customer when you're not, that's a McShit with Lies.
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I am still awaiting someone to explain why a company such as this should provide toilets for the public to use? Use the facilities but not pay for them? Not very capitalist is it.
Yep they're b@stards until you or your daughter have an accident on the premises and are injured, but not covered by insurance because your not members
Compensation culture! Dont get me started.
Yep they're b@stards until you or your daughter have an accident on the premises and are injured, but not covered by insurance because your not members
But most gyms are happy enough to give you a free try out voucher if you are looking at joining.
FFS people get some prospective, if a child wants a pee whats the bloody harm in fitness first letting her use their toilet, all this bull about it being a business and would you let a stranger in your home 🙄 like as if were talking a huge establishment, no different to going into a pub or dept store to use their toilets.
What a bunch of miserable nimbies.
It might be a neighbourly thing to do but its their loo and they decide who uses it. Thats capitalism. No profit, no usage
Shame on Fitness First. Cutting out all of the jobsworth nonesense, it's a small child who needs to use the toilet. It doesn't matter where it is, any decent individual would let the child through.
It reminds me of an incident I witnessed in a shop last year. An elderly gent in front of me at customer services asked if they had a toilet because he was desperate to go (and he looked highly embarrassed at having to ask). He was told that the toilets were for staff use only. He said that he'd recently started to take water tablets and couldn't control it for much longer. The response he got was "get a letter for your GP to confirm that and you may be allowed to use the toilets in future". He walked away looking very distressed. Actually, he waddled away in a knock kneed fashion, gripping his crotch, with his eyes watering, but you get the idea. Jobsworth, penpushing, red tape bull***t. The world's going mad.
TandemJeremy - Member
It might be a neighbourly thing to do but its their loo and they decide who uses it. Thats capitalism. No profit, no usage
Thought you might of been more sympathetic TJ seeing as your in a caring profession!
Yep they're b@stards until you or your daughter have an accident on the premises and are injured, but not covered by insurance because your not members.
Why would you need insurance cover to go for a piddle?
Are you suggesting that you shouldn't go anywhere where you're not insured?
I'm sorry but a 3 year old can pee in the gutter sheltered by the car door really. They don't need to go to a gym. It will have only been a year ago when she would happily shit in her own pants.
all this pee in the gutter talk, is such horseshit. Of course that would be illegal but most people with any common sense would be quite open-minded. But, if someone was arse enough to refuse the toilet because of rules, their equivalent would be outside calling the police. Hypocrites
flipping heckler - I am sympathetic but I fail to see why a private members club should provide facilities for the use of the general public.
As I put - It would be the neighbourly thing to do but its their choice. This is capitalism.
One child using their toilet is hardly the general public, would not harm/effect the private members one bit, and as for capitalism, they have possibly lost a potential member.
One child using their toilet is hardly the general public,
They are not a member so what are they?
would not harm/effect the private members one bit,
And? Its irrelevant. Their loo they decide who uses it
flipping heckler - I am sympathetic but I fail to see why a private members club should provide facilities for the use of the general public.
TJ, to as earlier, no one denies they have the right to refuse admission, the point is that they are dicks for exercising that right.