Toilet with a powerful flush - recommendations please

Jetwash?

Watching. Modern bog flushes are pathetic and ineffectual.  It's probably to save water which doesn't work when you have to give it 3 or 4 flushes to send a particularly voluminous and recalcitrant dreadnought on its way.

Dis you?

all-bran ?

Anyone else reckon a traditional lever siphon flush will be better than a push button one?

We have a high level traditional one in the family bog. Not much that bugger can't shift, although our 13 year old does try.

Swmbo wants to refurb the bathroom and I fear we'll end up with a standard modern loo which frankly can block at the slightest hint of anything solid.

I’d love something with jet wash like power - close the lid and secure hatches before flushing though eh?!

Yes, the existing bog is an old large volume cistern and lever siphon, circa 1980’s I guess. Are all modern cisterns these hopeless push button/small capacity type now?

I've just installed a rimless one with a Geberit concealed cistern. Seems powerful enough to shift most things, although I suspect it hasn't been put to the ultimate test.

I think the issue is that the shape of most modern toilets means you'll get 'leftovers', regardless of flush power. You can get ones with a hygiene coating that makes them a bit more slippery, although I suspect that effect is marginal.

How about checking the individual's diet, and teaching him to use a bog brush on pain of death?

Or install one of these in the garden.

https://danfo.co.uk/our-products-services/toilet-solutions-for-your-needs/permanent-public-toilets/mapt-automatic-public-toilet

Very wise, getting ready for Boxing Day. We’ve got Dynorod on a retainer. 

Watching. Modern bog flushes are pathetic and ineffectual. It’s probably to save water which doesn’t work when you have to give it 3 or 4 flushes to send a particularly voluminous and recalcitrant dreadnought on its way.

Yep, ours requires 3 flushes most times for just about anything. Replaced the entire mechanism and didn't make any difference, just seem to have been designed not to work. Armitage Shanks.

Still, at least we don't have German style crappers where you deposit your offering onto a dry porcelain shelf so you can inspect it before the flush skooshes it off.  As a young squaddie in BAOR in the 1980s this properly freaked me out! Probably urban myth, but we were told it was because they ate a lot of raw meat and needed to check for worms....🤢

Whatever you have in the cistern, bin it and fit one of these.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/fluidmaster-toilet-flush-valve-handle-kit/50692<br /><br />

Simple flap that lets the water out in a good rush. There is a push button version too if you must.

A member of the household has taken to leaving sticky logs behind them

have you considered changing the locks?

Whatever you have in the cistern, bin it and fit one of these.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/fluidmaster-toilet-flush-valve-handle-kit/50692

Simple flap that lets the water out in a good rush. There is a push button version too if you must.

Interesting.  Info suggests it's for water saving which worries me.  I'm generally all for conserving water but sometimes you need to unleash a biblical flood to shift a stubborn Richard

Bookmarking this thread as we have the same problem in my household.

Same here. Luckily the bathroom bin is watertight and bucket size. Fill it in the bath and dump that down the bog on the odd occasion when normal methods fail.

Same here. Luckily the bathroom bin is watertight and bucket size.

Thought this post was heading in a completely different direction.

The flap valve just lets the water through, all in one go, no siphon, you move the lever, the flap lifts. if it’s just a little pee to deal with, you can release the lever early, that’s the water saving feature. How much water is in there is a function of the height you set on your filler valve. <br /><br />

These things work, I have owned a bunch of them for many years now (I’m a landlord). Bonus feature is that if the flap ever needs cleaning or changing, you don’t need to separate the cistern from the pan to do it, and replacement parts are available though my oldest one is at least twenty years old and going strong. 

have you considered changing the locks? 😆 

I can’t think who they’ve inherited their filthy dirtbag habits from….Cough!

Thanks for flap valve suggestions and link, that sounds like a good solution.

Dirty, dirty boy!! Downstairs cloaks is not for poos...wees only!! You cannot have that toilet plume wafting about downstairs! Imagine, someone walking into your house through the front door catching a whiff of that??? Just no. And don't keep cloaks in there either! Dirty boy 🥵

Dirty, dirty boy!! Downstairs cloaks is not for poos…wees only!! You cannot have that toilet plume wafting about downstairs! Imagine, someone walking into your house through the front door catching a whiff of that??? Just no. And don’t keep cloaks in there either! Dirty boy 🥵

Weird.

On holiday in Rhodes, they have an odd relationship with sanitation. Used bog roll goes in the bin rather than down the throne. One time I encountered what looked like a shower head on a hose next to the bog, I assumed some sort of hand-held bidet. I'm glad I tried it before I applied it as it was more like a jet-washer. Maybe something like that is what you need in loo lieu of a better diet.

OK. Cheaper than a food mixer, and easier than a change of diet. 2ltr plastic pop bottle; cut the base out and remember to replace the cap😳. You now have a plunger which will shape around the base of the bend and create a watertight seal to force the log around the bend. The sharp edges of the cut plastic also make an effective blade to slice the offender up if necessary. But, remember to replace the cap on the bottle 🙄.

Why dont we teflon toilets

Get a non stick frying pan

Why not a non stick shit pan?

Cos eventually...if you fry enough of them, they'll start sticking. Teflon doesn't last too long.

We have a high level traditional one in the family bog

You can’t beat gravity, had one in an old house (although it was a new toilet), that flush could shift king kongs little finger

Wondering if a Japanese toilet with a pre-rinse will help.

Our special-coated ceramic toilet with a Grohe flush can need 2-4 flushes with brush assistance if presented with anything poop-like.

Good luck OP.

My new lady's house has amazing quality toilet flushes! Only trouble is, they have some lightning fast refill on the cistern which makes a hell of a racket.. can't flush pee away at night! But I will have a check what brand of lav is installed when I get a mo 😀

Why dont we teflon toilets

Maybe you could machine polish the inside of your toilet before fitting it?

Golden rule for water use reduction:

If it's brown, flush it down. If it's yellow, let it mellow.

at least we don’t have German style crappers where you deposit your offering onto a dry porcelain shelf so you can inspect it before the flush skooshes it off

Worked in Germany end of 80s, and a mate had to flush at half-dump, or stand up to make room for the rest.
Last time I was in Germany they seemed to have moved to more modern thinking

What on earth are you lot eating?

New Ideal Standard rimless ones in this house and they’ve never have a problem clearing anything on the main 6l flush. Which, in all honesty, did surprise me given the size of the hole in the pan.

https://www.bathroomsuppliesonline.com/ideal-standard-tesi-close-coupled-back-to/

What on earth are you lot eating?

My theory is too much time sat on their butt playing computer games, and maybe prolonged baking times. The sticky monsters only make fairly infrequent appearances, but too often for my liking. I like the food mixer suggestion - all I’d need is a chemical warfare outfit!

oh, and classic comments about the 1980’s toilets in Germany. My dad worked in Germany and the Netherlands for a few years and I remember visiting him and the WTF reaction when I first saw the f’lat pan bogs. (LOL about the guy having to part flush or stand up for his XL logs!)

The Ideal Standard looks OK, and I’m wondering about combining it with a separate built in cistern mounted a bit higher up the wall - might look a bit odd with the flush button halfway up the wall though….hmmm

Get a log but just remember the rules. 

Drac, that’s ace!😁

A member of the household has taken to leaving sticky logs behind them

Surely this is an educational rather than consumer advice problem?

German crappers: Had one of those at university - posh Edwardian townhouse.  Now a private residence I expect it is a treasured feature.  Niagra like flush though - you could probably see ripples on Megget Water when it is used.

Two 25 year old loos here. Downstairs conventional flush. Upstairs is converted to a soft flush. Existing handle but completely new flush mechanism. Its basically a flap that opens up and the flow is really good. It's also a soft press on the handle. Brilliant. Hold down for long flush. I'll look it up.

Fluid Master Adjusta Flush system.

I got a "Good Home Winam" rimless bog installed this year (B&Q brand)

Don't get one of them.

Got to be a Saniflo 33. Now this little babe can cope with anything, and I mean anything

Can you get them to spray GT85 on the sides and surface of the water pre-dump, then the log is lubed as it enters the water, and goes round the bend like a wet otter

Surely you have them prep their hoops with a brush of oil pre motion to coat the forbidden wispa and ease it's passage to the sea?

Depending on clubcard deals you should be able to pick up a litre for under a tenner. Personally I'd go with Tesco's own 'Light in colour' olive oil, it's effective and has a low viscosity.

Got to be a Saniflo 33. Now this little babe can cope with anything, and I mean anything

I never trust a Saniflo. It is always full of sh*t....

😉

Prunes…

I checked, and no brand names on any of the porcelain. All the cisterns are hidden behind tiled walls too. So I guess they are made to be reliable!

Why not a non stick shit pan?

I've heard of people spraying the inside of the bowl with WD40 after cleaning it.

Hmm..WD40 the bowl….interesting. Y’ know the old ‘what tyres/chain lube for [insert season]’ threads? Maybe we could start a ´what toilet bowl lube/abrasive medium for sticky dumps’ thread? Only of the environmentally friendly sort mind - olive oil is my current fave suggestion 😁<br /><br />

Our first house had an outside toilet with a high level cistern, about 8ft above ground with a chain pull. Nothing ever got stuck.

similar modern bogs (all brass fittings and very designer) are available and our next refurb will have one. All the comments about several flushes rings true in our ‘modern’ water saving facilities..