[Closed] Todays big news Subways bread isn't bread!

This news comes as no surprise.

There is one near where I work and it's always rammed with school kids and students.

I have never bought one ,I never will.

You are what you eat an all that.

my experience of bread in the US is that it was all full of sugar.
Most of what gets sold in the UK as bread shouldn't qualify as food either, in my view.

Never have, never will either. The smell alone walking past one is enough to churn your stomach, so sweet.

We had a few Subways as customers in my old job for a while a few years ago meaning I got to see 'behind the scenes' as it were. 10 seconds there and reading the boxes the 'food' came in put me off ever buying their produce, to the point I refused any freebies I was offered! The smell, as mentioned above, is also foul!

I like their salads. 🙂

I feel the same way about Hovis, Warburtons etc.

I got a bacon sandwich from there once. My first and last. Revolting.

The smell alone walking past one is enough to churn your stomach, so sweet.

Agreed - same goes for Dominos Pizza. In fact I am sure the two are interchangeable.

I'm a huge fan of crap 'food' but I really can't understand how anyone would want to eat anything that smells that bad. It's absolutely vile!

Subway used to be my go-to fast food when out as you can load it up with actual, recognisable vegetables etc so at least it has some nutritional value! As mentioned the salads they do now eschew the bread so are genuinely pretty healthy I think.

Most of what gets sold in the UK as bread shouldn’t qualify as food either, in my view.

Oh great another snobby food thread. How uplifting!

Have one every now & then and quite enjoy them. Same for McDonalds etc etc....everything in moderation and all that

I like them, the choice of fresh veg toppings is great (even after reading about the server who stuck it up his nose), but then someone mentioned the smell. I had not really noticed it before, but now I have and I don't like it :-/

I never understood how they could make a baguette taste like fast food.

This is how.

Oh great another snobby food thread. How uplifting!

Not really,it's shitty fast food being called out for being what it is.

Oh great another snobby food thread. How uplifting!

Yup, this.

I don't mind the odd veggie sub. When we were bike touring in Newfoundland it was literally the only place you could get something green!

it’s shitty fast food being called out for being what it is.

With that user name you really shouldn't be commenting!

Footlong BMT, cheese not toasted, everything but lettuce (to bulky), chipotle sauce, please.

What was the question?

Presumably brioche is out also?

Then the food snobs will kick off.

Same for McDonalds etc etc

Now I quite like the odd MaccyD (about one every six months and usually because I have taken my kids into town shopping) but I simply do not enjoy the taste or smell of Subways. The last one I had was on a very hungover morning in Dublin in 2004 just after I had proposed to my wife.

As I typically only have one or two Honey Oat sandwiches a year as a treat, having not eaten a McD or KFC for decades, I can live with the sweet sandwich filling outer...

I could probably do with discovering Tesco's hot cross buns and chocolate raisins are toxic though! 😉

I think McDonalds and Burger King buns are very similar, mainly sugar which turns golden brown to give the illusion of toasting

I think McDonalds and Burger King buns are very similar, mainly sugar which turns golden brown to give the illusion of toasting

However...
An analysis of the receipts showed that the average sandwich bought at Subway had 784 calories in it. This compares to McDonald’s 582 calories.
Subway, for example, offers a footlong Big Philly Cheesesteak that packs in 1,000 calories – almost double that of a Big Mac.
From here

I don't understand how people can describe McDonald's as crap. The entire menu is pure nom.

Agree about Subway though. Amazing that some are enticed and some disgusted by the smell. That melange of sweet and savoury is from Old Nick's kitchen.

Subway, for example, offers a footlong Big Philly Cheesesteak that packs in 1,000 calories – almost double that of a Big Mac.

Err... because it's much bigger? There's an easy way to half the calories... buy one half the size.

The bread’s sugar content – five times the qualifying limit under the act – means that it falls outside of the legal definition of a staple food. The ruling included white and wholegrain bread. The definition serves to differentiate bread from other baked goods.

“The argument depends on the acceptance of the prior contention that the Subway heated sandwich contains ‘bread’ as defined, and therefore can be said to be food for the purposes of the Second Schedule rather than confectionary.

So, let them eat cake.

I'm not a big fan of Subways, but it's mediocre rather than awful. I have McDs about once a month. You know what you're getting (fried salt, basically), it's excellent hangover food.

I remember watching a telly programme where high end chefs try to recreate fast food as accurately as possible, the Flame Grilled Whopper was one of them and the roll was the hardest bit because it wasn't bread, it was a cake batter.

I don’t understand how people can describe McDonald’s as crap.

Same here. Theres few better things in the world than a double sausage and egg McMuffin or a Big Mac.

Actually.... I've not had one for ages. I'm defo going for a Maccy D's later 😀

I love subway me. What do people expect? It’s not health food.

The footlong comparison with a big Mack is wrong anyway. You couldn’t just have a Big Mac and be satisfied, you’d have fries, but you’d not have fries with a subway, they don’t sell them for one. A big tasty is around a 1000 calories and tastes like shit, and you have fries with it.

Footlong meat feast, cheese and toasted, lettuce, pickles, sweetcorn and jalapeños with Mayo for me please.

Bon appetite!

You couldn’t just have a Big Mac and be satisfied

I do. That's all I ever get when I go in with the kids. I never get a Meal Deal etc.

Sensationalist click-bait.

The Irish court doesn't actually state it's not bread, just that it's not classed as a staple food under a VAT law due to its sugar content meaning that from a VAT point of view it's a baked good.

It's still bread, just the VAT man doesn't classify it as such.

Haven't had a Subway for ages, probably fair to say there's worse sandwiches for sale in Tesco from a nutritional point of view. Everything in moderation and all that.

Footlong meat feast

I thought that was a "film" title from the specialised niche genre....

If you've not tried one and are passing judgement on here - shame on you.

You really should try one, in my limited experience they are are really revolting, just as bad as you'd fear. The quality control was good - the second one I had was just as minging as the first.

You couldn’t just have a Big Mac and be satisfied

I do. That’s all I ever get when I go in with the kids. I never get a Meal Deal etc.

Used to get one a week or so on lunch breaks when I was working up in town. I avoid the "bacon" that they put into it though, that really cheap streaky fat is vile.

I bloody Love a Subway...

I've been having salads of late, not because I don't think their Bread is really bread or indeed Air quotes Food, because, well it clearly is, but to cut the calories.

If anyone's asking:

Footlong Tuna, Hearty Italian Bread, cheese, not toasted. Olives, Peppers, Pickles, Chillis with hot chilli sauce.

Used to love them as a student, as above, if you start with chicken, loads of veg on top, then the only real evils were the sauces and, apparently, the bread.

I guess the only criticism you could level at them is if they touted it as genuinely healthy (which they probably do, I just can't be bothered checking the advertising). I think I was disappointed last time I got one, the chicken is no longer diced 'real' chicken but some sort of shiny looking revolting patty?

The smell is the weirdest thing, it almost has a life of its own! We worked in a 16 storey tower in Vancouver, and when a Subway concession was put in on the ground floor, there were naturally concerns about the smell permeating the building. Turns out the only floor it permeated was the 'executive' top floor due to an interesting example of the stack effect up the lift shaft effectively sucking the smell all the way up the building until the top floor. It was like a smoke test or something, they should have paid Subway for the privilege as it probably saved them a tonne of heating energy patching up the leaky lift shaft 😀

Making me fancy going and getting a footlong tuna mayo, grilled with cheese, all the salad and a chilli sauce on an a hearty italian sugary bread looking thing. Yummy.

Is cheap cider drunk in a subway really cider?
This stuff is life changing 😶

I don't happen to like Subway, but this does smack a little of middle class Guardianistas sneering over their organic ciabattas at the type of lunch working class people eat.

You couldn’t just have a Big Mac and be satisfied

I do. That’s all I ever get when I go in with the kids. I never get a Meal Deal etc.

Big Mac, do I want the "Giant Menu", well yes, of course I do. With a large cerveza, thankyouverymuch.

Sweet food has sugar in it? No way!

Makes me want a meatball marinara sub now. But the wife has also suggested taco belle tonight. Choices choices.

Nothing wrong with sneering over shit food IMHO. Not just working class though. Young-ish lad works with us, very good at Call of Duty but not so hot on attention to detail. He'll have exactly the same lunch day after day for months on end, one year pot noodles, the next rustlers burgers, after that super noodles. Won't eat salad or anything good for him. I don't get it!

Hmmm foot long meatball marinara, on hearty Italian with cheese, gerkins, onions and jalapeños please. Toasted of course.

I got a bacon sandwich from there once. My first and last. Revolting.

Me too. it was going OK until it they put it in microsoft to reheat.

but this does smack a little of middle class Guardianistas sneering over their organic ciabattas

Its really not. Its an article about how something has so much sugar in it , that in no longer counts as bread for VAT purposes.

Its another depressing indication of hidden calories and crap in our foods - although I don't like subway it would never have occurred to me that there would be so much added sugar in something as (relatively) straightforward as bread.

Why do people keep posting up the favourite Subway sandwich? They all taste exactly the same anyway.

I've been thinking about other things that aren't the things we think they are:

Potatoes, not vegetables.
Bananas, not Fruit.
Forks and Spoons, not cutlery.
Fireflies - not flies.
Strawberries, not berries.
Koalas - not bears.
Peanuts - not nuts.
Turkeys - not really turkeys, sort of, that one's a bit of a odd one.

Bananas, not Fruit.

Olives, fruit.

Tomatoes - mammals
Whales - fruit

You couldn’t just have a Big Mac and be satisfied

That's why you have a double cheeseburger chaser 😀

I see the triple cheeseburger is now on the menu. Mmmmmmmmmmm

Potatoes, not vegetables.

Yes, yes they are.

Forks and Spoons, not cutlery.

Only in America.

We're not in America.

They're cutlery.

Spicy Italian foot long on Italian herbs and cheese with everything but tomatoes and cucumber, chilli sauce.

Mmmmmmm

Moderation innit

Why do people keep posting up the favourite Subway sandwich? They all taste exactly the same anyway.

Sure they do

I use subway when I'm in Saudi as it's consistent, available and quick, however I did find a shawarma place near to the subway in the City I was visiting last time and now go there out of preference (Its a lot slower though).

Whales – fruit

The whale is an insect and it lives on bananas.

A guy i used to work with had a 12" meatball monstrosity every single day, used to come back into the office & stank the place out - the sauce was usually dripping out the bottom of the bag - rest of his diet was similarly unhealthy & he proudly proclaimed to enjoy 4 large shites per day. I believed him.

Didn't put me off though - 12" Italian BMT on the oatmeal bread with everything except cucumber and extra spicy sauce here please, not had one for ages - next week i'm right in about one when i'm back in work.

Oh man, footlong meatball monstrousity, cheese and toasted, all the salad and pickles except tomato and cucumber. Southwest and chill sauce.

I love 'em, but my farts could strip wallpaper afterwards, they're practically grounds for divorce.

Not somethng I'd recomend anyone eats regularly, but every now and again... FILTH!

Oh yeh, you don't have a Subway every day but there are(were) days in the office when it hit 12 and you couldn't rid the thought of a foot of bread-like stuff with fresh fillings straight out of a plastic container for lunch.

Bananas, not Fruit.

It has seeds, therefore it's fruit. Which means ketchup is fruit sauce.

Cucumber = fruit

You know most of them offer wraps as an option if you object to their 'bread'?

I've not tried it since they changed it to vegan but I used to enjoy their veggie pattie. One of the few fast food places that treated their veggie offering just like any other protein, and (at least front-of-house where you can see them) tried to avoid cross-contamination.

I’ve been thinking about other things that aren’t the things we think they are:

Tomatoes are fruit.

Forks and Spoons, not cutlery.

Wut choo talkin bout, Willis?

I had one of their vegan meatball subs a while back and was pleasantly surprised. Usually* go for a steak and cheese with lettuce, tomatoes, cucumber, red onions, olives and jalapenos with what ever the south west sauce is called nowadays

*usually = maybe once or twice a year..

yeah the vegan non-meat meatball sub is really good, actually much prefer it to the "meat" version

I once bought some brioche burger buns from Waitrose which were special Heston ones as there was nothing else left. The bun contained more saturated fat than the beefburger. Wtf?

@Molgrips:
"Oh great another snobby food thread. How uplifting!"

It's not food. It's just stuff that you can stick in your mouth.

It's also not snobbery to point that out.

In the 1980's McDonalds admitted in the UK courts that their burgers were up to 5% fecal matter. It didn't stop anyone eating them. But then you get Morgan Spurlock and supersize me etc etc - and you realise it's not food either. It's stuff you can eat - but food, by definition, sustains you.

I could make and eat scouse for the rest of my life - lots of onions, vegetables, small amounts of meat, all in a nice stock. It would sustain me. Because that's food.

Subway is stuff you can put in your mouth designed by "food" scientists. It can't sustain you - in fact, in not-so-long-term it will do you damage.

Because it's not food.

Pointing that out is not snobbery. Snobbery is pointing out that subway doesn't stock your caviar and champagne of the required expense. This is just maintaining basic food standards and not falling for profiteers who'll sell idiots any old cr@p that they can legally cram in their mouth, for profit.

Forks and Spoons, not cutlery.

Wut choo talkin bout, Willis?

Supposedly cutlery only refers to knifes and the rest is 'flatware', but here we've thrown the lot in together as cutlery, leaving on the Americans to use 'flatware' and 'Silverware' - making it an Americanism, which of course is repugnant.

Can you get cheap cider in a Subway? News to me

I don't mind the odd subway, it is quite expensive for what it is though.

It also makes me incredibly thirsty after eating it, I suspect it has more salt that the sea but I don't care as it fixes a hangover.

Supposedly cutlery only refers to knifes and the rest is ‘flatware’

That makes total sense, the only component that's flat is the only one not called flatware.

In the 1980’s McDonalds admitted in the UK courts that their burgers were up to 5% fecal matter.

Assuming that to be true for the sake of argument because I can't be arsed to fact check it, look at the wording there. "Up to."

So as however much fecal matter might make it into a burger (and you do know where meat comes from, right?) they are promising that it will never be more than 5%. It would be equally valid to claim their burgers were up to 100% fecal matter or 5% Richard Whiteley without changing its composition one jot.

It’s not food. It’s just stuff that you can stick in your mouth.

It’s also not snobbery to point that out.

In the 1980’s McDonalds admitted in the UK courts that their burgers were up to 5% fecal matter. It didn’t stop anyone eating them. But then you get Morgan Spurlock and supersize me etc etc – and you realise it’s not food either. It’s stuff you can eat – but food, by definition, sustains you.

I could make and eat scouse for the rest of my life – lots of onions, vegetables, small amounts of meat, all in a nice stock. It would sustain me. Because that’s food.

Subway is stuff you can put in your mouth designed by “food” scientists. It can’t sustain you – in fact, in not-so-long-term it will do you damage.

Because it’s not food.

Pointing that out is not snobbery. Snobbery is pointing out that subway doesn’t stock your caviar and champagne of the required expense. This is just maintaining basic food standards and not falling for profiteers who’ll sell idiots any old cr@p that they can legally cram in their mouth, for profit.

I'm going to stick my neck out here, but that's all complete bollocks isn't it?

I'm fairly sure that if a quarter pounder contained 6g of shit, you'd notice, but if I'm wrong, provide a source. You're far more likely to find faecal matter on vegetables, or anything else grown out in the open, in actual shit.

As for the rest... bullshit. If food was only food is you were able to live eating nothing else, very few things would be considered food, and your example doesn't conform exclusively to the definition of "food".

Can you get cheap cider in a Subway? News to me

I fear our esteemed poster was referring to a subway rather than Subway. It was a pune.

In the 1980’s McDonalds admitted in the UK courts that their burgers were up to 5% fecal matter.

1. Do you have a source for this? It sounds like BS.

2. As the old saying goes, the scandal isn't that they do it, it's that it's legal. (Which means that everyone else's burgers are probably pretty much the same because they'll all be aiming to duck just under whatever the legal limit is.)

I’m fairly sure that if a quarter pounder contained 6g of shit, you’d notice, but if I’m wrong, provide a source. You’re far more likely to find faecal matter on vegetables

Surely the fecal matter of a cow IS vegetables?
Maybe it makes it more healthy?
(i'm joking)

Do you have a source for this? It sounds like BS.

I think that's the point - it is BS. Up to 5% of BS.

Surely the fecal matter of a cow IS vegetables?
Maybe it makes it more healthy?
(i’m joking)

True.

I once knew a man who got paid to take shit, and got paid again from people who bought it.

His farm stank, but don't they all, but he was making a fortune at the time, probably still is, funny old world.

Oh great another snobby food thread. How uplifting!

Oh great, another thread where well justified concerns over food quality are vacuously dismissed as snobby. How uplifting!

Anyway, Subway food is dog shit 🐕 💩

Better not start on the subway chicken only being 50% actual chicken...

The argument is that it's bread that doesn't qualify as a staple, rather than not being bread at all, isn't it?