I can't bloody stand iphones.
My biggest gripe with them is when people give them to you to and expect you to know how to use it, firstly you have to rest it gently on its back in the palm of your hand 'cos the whole of the front is a touch screen, obviously making sure you don't drop it in the process due to the fact it costs about three hundred and ninety quid.
Then there's a bewildering array of coloured icons to fathom but absolutely NO buttons, and you have bugger all idea not only WHERE to press, but also HOW - you gently touch what you think might be the right icon, and invariably it doesn't respond. Do you have to press it harder? Or what?
But then they take it back off you tutting and it turns out you actually have to [i]slide[/i] your finger across it, or do some advanced combination like put both your finger and thumb in the middle of it and move them apart. ::-) ::-) Well, if only I'd have known that. ::-)
Then there's the apps: my issue with iPhone apps is that they make themselves out to be some kind of new technology when they in fact aren't at all.
Most are just a java shell wrapping a browser, with a custom icon.
They are either simple accessors of content on the internet, i.e. basically just an internet browser configured to load a particular site, a feature that a fairly advanced smartphone should have anyway - i.e. not unique to iPhone, or a novelty demonstration of some sensor that the iPhone has got inside it.
These sensors have probably only been included purely to fend off the charge that apps are simple accessors of content on the internet.
It's a bit like 'podcasts', they make out to be some kind of new technology, some advanced protocol - but they're in fact not, all they are is a downloadable mp3. Any fool can bung an mp3 on a website and call it a 'podcast'.
For me, the four reasons I might want a smartphone are: mp3 player, camera, sat nav, and obviously, phone. BUt it's worse [i]at each one[/i] than a device dedicated for that purpose. The problem them is they are jack of all trades, master of none.
my mate's got an iPhone and travelling anywhere with him can be infuriating 'cos he tries to use its google maps to navigate us, which admittedly [i]when it works[/i] is quite good, as it uses GPS to display a dot representing where you are on a google map, but it relies on a connection to the internet, which to me is a bit unreliable, but he doesn't accept that that renders it unusable as a navigation tool.
For instance,
me: "look it's dropped its connection [i]again[/i], hasn't it? why don't we just use my garmin?"
him: "no it'll be alright soon, we'll be moving into an HSDPA [or whatever] area in a minute, it'll pick up" ::-) ::-)
If you try to use it as an mp3 player, it will run out of batteries within about an hour.
It's camera is pretty piss poor, as well.
Both these pictures were taken out doors on sunny days.
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(I say 'proper' camera, probably not by most of your standards, only a compact and a budget compact at that, but it's a much better picture.)
So why WOULD you have an iPhone? It's not like cameras and mp3 players are massive so it can't be the ease of carrying them around - and a sat nav is in your car anyway. I'm convinced that it's a mixture of fashion, and the desire to experience the novelty of touch-screen technology.
It's the single most useable 'gadget' I've ever owned.
Bonj I think you make a very sound case for you not having one... I love mine, find little fault with it and judging by sales I am not alone.....
1/10 - You put too much effort into this, and didn't check facts.
Most are just a java shell wrapping a browser, with a custom icon.
If you find a way to run Java on an iPhone, give me a call. It's all Cocoa, real programming one of the best SDKs for any platform out there.
You hate a phone... Really?
+1
I kind of agree with you,
Why, what is all about, all I want a phone to do is (funny this) call people and text, so why all the other STUFF.
I know it's a "fashion" thing.
Explain to me why I should buy one (as per my previous post tonight), go on convince me, I bet you wont be able too.
🙄
It's the single most useable 'gadget' I've ever owned.
+1
I have a cheapo phone and an ipod touch - which camp does this put me in?
(At first, I didn't really rate the touch as it seemed an overcomplicated ipod - but guess what, once I got to understand it I understood it was a first rate PDA with ipod attached.)
I love 'em. I'm on my third now.
You hate a phone... Really?
No I don't [i]hate[/i] it like I would if it had for example murdered my child, say, but I ... shall we say, [i]despair[/i], at all the hype that is associated with them. Most iPhone users start out denouncing them as naff, but then fall victim to the lure of the process of merely just discovering what apps you can get for it. They sit there mindlessly jabbing at it and then suddenly announce that hey! you can get an app for it that does so-and-so, and you're supposed to be impressed. 🙄
It's not that people actually find using the apps useful, but that they are addicted to the process of finding what ones you can get for it. They see it as 'upgrading' their phone - people love uprading things, so I must say in their credit apple have cottoned onto an extremely profitable business model, by finding a way of just exploiting people's sense of novelty.
Then there's a bewildering array of coloured icons to fathom but absolutely NO buttons, and you have bugger all idea not only WHERE to press, but also HOW - you gently touch what you think might be the right icon, and invariably it doesn't respond. Do you have to press it harder? Or what?
There's 1 button.
But really? The number of icons on an iPhone screen bewilders you and how you struggle to fathom out that you're meant to tap the icons? You are my 89 year old Grandfather and I claim my £5.
If you can't use an iPod / touch then god help you. My 3 year old son navigate his way around mine!
There's 1 button.But really? The number of icons on an iPhone screen bewilders you and how you struggle to fathom out that you're meant to tap the icons? You are my 89 year old Grandfather and I claim my £5.
oh, TAP now, is it! 🙄 Christ, what's actually [i]wrong[/i] with buttons? What does it actually GAIN by being touch screen? (For the user, I mean, not for apple.)
I love 'em. I'm on my third now.
I would hate them if i was on my third already because something that costs that much should last a bit longer than that. That's my other gripe with them - they're probably [i]designed[/i] to only last a certain amount of time, so then you'll go flocking back to the shop for another one which will have a slightly different colour scheme and you will therefore regard it as better and therefore worth it anyway.
TJ - that raises another grumble, what was actually wrong with the dial? Why is it that if you manage to discover a seller of phones with a dial (which we did to get my brother one for christmas) , do you find that it has to have some internal gubbins to convert the signal from the dial into the signal that buttons would make? WHY? 👿
Why isn't it the responsibility of the buttons to convert into the signal that a dial, which was there first, would make?
[i] what was actually wrong with the dial? [/i]
It was fine when numbers were 4 digits long - you'd soon be pissed of dialing the 11 digit numbers we have now!!
no actually i would quite enjoy the process of dialling. It's quite therapeutic.
Oh - and I have an iPhone and I think its a rather fantastic device!
bonj - mine is a dial phone with the pulse dial mechanism and it works fine. Some are converted to tone dial so you can use automated systems with it as you can't with a pulse dial phone.
MY favourite thing about a real phone is the ring - 2 nice bells not some horrid electronic bleeping
I think, for me, it wouldn't require many modifications to convince me that it would be worth it:
* camera as good as budget smartphone
* red and green buttons for ending and starting calls, and up/down key
* good sat nav that doesn't rely on the internet
* good durability
but that would require actually making it functional and would divert the effort of the designers that are employed to make it addictive to the proles.
[b]can use automated systems[/b] with it as you can't with a pulse dial phone.
no great gain is it! 😉
bonj - I can't stand them either because I'm a saddo linux using geek type **** that insisted on an Android phone instead..which has buttons and swipe screen.
Um, if you don't like iPhiones and don't see the point that's great, get a simple phone or no phone, I really don't mind.
I like my iPhone, I use it more than any other phone I've had and I no longer have to remember to pick up my iPod to listen to my music in there car. So if you don't want one fine, just don't knock something that other people obviously do like just cos you don't get it.
I don't get single speed bikes, fixies or tandems but I'm not about to start a thread about it, other people think they're great, I think they're (the people) weird, but that's my problem, not theirs 😉
I have a dial phone and love it, but takes ages to dial mobile numbers as they are full of 0's and 7's
Dad has loads in the loft, including a bright red one I really want but can't have
As for I-phones, all gimmick, toy and fashion? no use for working in the outdoors, especially as someone with 'sausage' fingers that can press a quarter of a screen
Um, if you don't like iPhiones and don't see the point that's great, get a simple phone or no phone, I really don't mind.I like my iPhone, I use it more than any other phone I've had and I no longer have to remember to pick up my iPod to listen to my music in there car. So if you don't want one fine, just don't knock something that other people obviously do like just cos you don't get it.
I don't get single speed bikes, fixies or tandems but I'm not about to start a thread about it, other people think they're great, I think they're (the people) weird, but that's my problem, not theirs
don't get me wrong i don't have any issue with people that like them, I just, as you put it - "don't get it", would be a fairly accurate way of putting it.
I suppose it's not the devices themselves but the users of them - and there's different classes of users of them - there's those that love it to the point that they can't understand why anyone WOULDN'T have one and think you're a moron if you don't or don't know how to use theirs, and there's those that just have them 'cos they like them but appreciate that it's their choice and don't expect everybody else to buy into it.
If you're in the latter category, then fine, but it's the former that I've got a problem with.
Part of my issue with that set of people is they think that just because it's an iphone and it's famous, that everyone should know how to use it. Sorry,but they don't, and some have no desire to. If you have, say, a Samsung SX500, you wouldn't give it to someone and expect them to know how to use it and tut when they don't, but people think that because it's an iphone that everyone knows how to use it.
You don't like them? Don't use them then.
You think all the users are "forced" to use them or something? Say what you want about fashion, but gadgets that are fashionable go "out" of fashion very quickly if they don't work very very well.
Actually, just reading back through your postings....I don't think you have issues with iPhone users, I think maybe you just have issues in general 😯 😆
Spend half an hour using one for things that you think you'll find useful, and I'd be very surprised if you didn't want to stick with it. My problem is my inability to put the bloody thing down.
Spend half an hour using one for [b]things that you think you'll find [/b]useful, and I'd be very surprised if you didn't want to stick with it. My problem is my inability to put the bloody thing down.
Such as?
What would I want to do that it would be useful for?
THe things I can think of - sat nav, mp3 player, camera, and even phone - a dedicated device is much better at the job than the iphone is.
I find it a lot more convenient than a laptop for stuff like this for example. It's brilliant at the Internet. (even capitalises Internet for you :-))
If you try to use it as an mp3 player, it will run out of batteries within about an hour.
Absolute nonsense!
The iPhone does exactly what a regular, stand-alone mp3 player does. It also does everything a regular mobile phone does.
If you're going to try and put up a valid argument, at least try and use some kind of fact in there 🙄
Part of my issue with that set of people is they think that just because it's an iphone and it's famous, that everyone should know how to use it.
it's a phone - are you saying that i hand you a phone and you cant use it!!
maybe you should stick to writing letters! 😉
iphone perfectly usable for 3 year old, but not bonj, apparently 😉
So the satnav is useless because it's web based like all the other apps, is it? Clot. Virtually all apps are native to the iPhone, including navigation. I have two gps map based apps, Copilot Live and Outdoor. Copilot is turn-by-turn UK voice guided that has all the maps for the UK installed [b]in the phone[/b]. Outdoor is 1:50000 OS mapping, where the maps are installed [b]in the phone[/b]. Mine covers the whole South-West of England from Tewksbury down to Cornwall and Abingdon across to Llandogo. Cost of each £25. I also have WeatherPro, which I use almost every day, which is web based, but you'll be pushed to find better weather forecasting, with radar and satellite mapping. I have three ebook readers with dozens of free and cheap books installed [b]in the phone[/b], not like Google books, that are all web based. I have apps that allow me to listen to streaming Internet radio at work, so that I have 6Music, or CBC Radio 3, (Canadian Indy channel), then there's useful little apps that give me spirit levels, conversion tables, cinema listings for all the cinemas in a fifty-mile radius, and on top of that the web-browsing is superb, I hardly ever bother getting my laptop out, I can easily use eBay, Facebook, where I can take a photo while out for a walk, then upload it with a caption straight away, I get all my email pushed straight to the phone, the text system on the iPhone is the best and easiest to use of any phone I've ever used, and if you found such a simple to use devise so difficult to grasp, I truly dispair of your competence when faced with something that is actually complicated, like a video recorder.
my kids (9 and 4) can make calls and navigate to and play the games.
i got an i-pod touch and can hosestly say i have no need for the i-phone, the apps are fine for pissing time away on a train and its good for lieing on the couch surfing the net coz i'm too lazy to walk 10 feet to the computer
other than that it annoys me that people think they invented the damn thing
I don't think I'll ever really use it to its full potential but it's the first time I've ever properly, without ages of arsing about, had properly synced email and contacts between my phone and computer and web - and no effort whatsover expended.
Wot he sed^.
I used to have a phone and a nano, having a phone "thing" [i]and[/i] a music "thing" too cart around was beginning to get a bit* tiresome. Seeing as I already used itunes and my contract was up, I switched to an iphone. It's nice, I don't really care about the lifestyle thing.
* not like, life changingly tiresome, but you know, two chargers two things to find, loose, not fit in pockets, just...a bit, you know?
It's just everything in one place. mrs deadly has had one since they came out, being a graphic designer apple fangirl type, so it's taken me a while to convert (and waiting for Vodafone). It's the first piece of technology since sky+ that's really made my life a little bit better, whereas all other phones/tvs/video cameras/digital cameras have just complicated things for me.
you're just all sold into the whole ethos of it, they've completely got you by the balls.
THe complaint about "having a separate mp3 player is too much to cart around" - that's an image THEY'VE put into your head! It just goes to show the miraculous ability of a clever marketing campaign to [i]tell[/i] you that you need something, in lieu of you actually realising you need it yourself.
Oh FFS bonj, zorry, juzt again, can you clear thiz up for me...I have a phone which I find incredibly uzeful, az well az lotz of other people on thiz thread...far better than any piece of zhit Nokia, or Zony Ericzzon I've uzed...but no, you've zeen the light...I'm juzt a victim of thoze clever marketeerz at Apple.
Well ztone the crowz.
Apparently iphones' alarms don't work when off?!! 👿 Is this true??!!
How long were you going to leave it before admitting this??!
Hahhahahaha!!!

Oh FFS bonj, zorry, juzt again, can you clear thiz up for me...I have a phone which I find incredibly uzeful, az well az lotz of other people on thiz thread...far better than any piece of zhit Nokia, or Zony Ericzzon I've uzed...but no, you've zeen the light...I'm juzt a victim of thoze clever marketeerz at Apple.Well ztone the crowz.
Right. Just answer two questions:
a) How much time have you spent on your iphone in the last, say, week or month over and above what you would spend on a normal phone?
b) What tangible benefit in your life have you got to show for it?
The fact that (a) divided by (b) is infinity, proves that all iPHones are good for is sucking you into an infinite brain drain.
Apparently iphones' alarms don't work when off?!! Is this true??!!
How long were you going to leave it before admitting this??!
Hahhahahaha!!!
Apparently?
Again, not true.
Don't get all your information from hearsay, rumour, wikipedia or the Daily Mail!
Don't care about the alarm function, never used it. (or any other alarm on any other phone I've ever owned)...what's your point?
Time on iphone? about as much as my last phone...people call me, I call them, people text me I text other people. I use the ipod function on the walk home
There are no benefits to owning an iphone other than now I have less charger angst..
Apparently?Again, not true.
Don't get all your information from hearsay, rumour, wikipedia or the Daily Mail!
When OFF, not just in flight mode?
Your argument could be applied to any piece of technology though. You're just choosing to apply it to iPhones because you've got "issues" (in a Saturdays singing type way) with the evangelists, who I haven't met by the way, despite iPhone ownership being the highest percentage of my mates.
None of us tries to persuade others to use them, I don't hand it to strangers and insist they play with it. I do however get asked if it can be borrowed to google something, or to check a map location, simply because it seems to do those things better than other phones. And hey, you know what, sometimes, people just want to have a play with it.
None of us tries to persuade others to use them, I don't hand it to strangers and insist they play with it
YOU might not, yes, but some people do.
The other day at work somebody was trying to get me to have a look at one that he was flogging of and it wasn't even a real one - it was a fake! I did warn him he was funding global crime gangs, people trafficking, and armed drug cartels but I don't think he cares.
Instead of saying "iPhone", it just said "Phone" 🙄
who's so sad that they have a [i]fake[/i] iPhone?
bonj - Member
Apparently?
Again, not true.
Don't get all your information from hearsay, rumour, wikipedia or the Daily Mail!When OFF, not just in flight mode?
Gotcha.
Well, that's like saying my video/sky+ etc, won't record my favourite tv show when I turn it off.
The iPhone is effectively a mini-pc, not "just" a phone. It's more like a mini-pc. Have the haters never watched a video clip or played a game on their computer, or do they have an Internet browsing device, a video player, a games machine and an emailer+ for each individual task?!
Probably asking to borrow it to go on google to escape actually having to interact with the 'oh so interesting' iPhone owner! 😉
Gotcha.Well, that's like saying my video/sky+ etc, won't record my favourite tv show when I turn it off.
yes but it's A PHONE!!!
Phones are meant to not need to be left on all night draining the battery if I want to be woke up the next morning! What if you want to not worry about the fact that the battery might run down in the middle of the night and you'll be late for work the next morning, which with an iPhone being battery hungry as it is it probably would!
It effectively means you have to LUG a charger around with you wherever you go, which is a lot more awkward to carry around than a separate mp3 player and camera!
Have the haters never watched a video clip or played a game on their computer, or do they have an Internet browsing device, a video player, a games machine and an emailer+ for each individual task?!
Yes but the difference is, a computer is just as good at those things* as a separate one, an iphone isn't as good at being a camera, sat nav, or mp3 player, or even a phone, as a dedicated one is.
* apart from possibly games, when you might have a separate console, but i dont' play computer games so i wouldn't know
I don't think there's a single phone's alarm that works when it's turned completely off, so this is hardly a singular flaw of the iPhone, plus what does a "normal phone" do that the iPhone doesn't? It has contacts, a keypad to dial a number not stored, voicemail ...the whole gamut!
and I ask again, what is it a regular mp3 player does that the iPhone doesn't?
I got caught out by the alarm thing. Every Nokia I've turns itself on for the alarm, the iphone doesn't. Guess who overslept that first morning!
Not sure if I fall in the love it or hate it category. I like the idea and I found the handset rather usable although it misses some of the functions I'm used to on the Nokia like separate times for incoming and outgoing calls so I can actually monitor what I'm doing/spending same with a text message ****er or the ability to get delivery reports for text. Still, I'm pretty sure there must be an app for most of those.
Speaking of apps. If you want a dial rather than buttons, I'm sure someone must make an ap for that!
However, my iphone has gone back because I had it with Vodafone but their network coverage isn't what they claim it to be. Combine this with the fact that the iphone is renowned for poor reception and you have an iphone that's more just an "i" and a lot less of a phone. Also, Vodafone's smtp server is borked beyond belief so I couldn't actually send email over gprs.
Plus, while the salesman told me that Vodafone warranty all handsets for the duration of the contact, what he meant to say was all handsets, except the very expensive iphone.
I'm back on my Nokia 6300 now. All it does is make phone calls and do texts. However, it does actually do those things rather well.
Its a very clever piece of kit but in the main its about marketing. How much of the stuff on it did you not need before you got it? Its all about creating a market not about fulfilling a need.
Very clever both the tech and the marketing
I think Jeremy has hit the nail on the head. Like most things, you buy the thing that best serves your needs.
Since owning my previous phone (HTC Touch), my top 3 must haves on a phone are Internet browsing, texting, and voice calls, in that order.
I'm fully paid up, proud embracing member of the geek club, and love gadgets that allow me to do all of the stuff I enjoy doing, when I want to do them 😀
Yeah, I'm a hard core unix geek. I'm no great fan of apple and I have many issues with their desktops and laptops (actually I think there's lots of areas of functionality that apple have decided to cock up simply to be different rather than to be better) but their hand held devices rock hugely as far as I'm concerned. I've got an ipod touch and it's brilliant. I cannot fault it at all.
bonj, you are just an obsessive looking for something to rail against, so you've picked on a very popular electronic device. Yes, the iPhone is [i]sold[/i] as a phone, because previously similar machines, sold as PDA's, have only proved popular with business types. By creating a hand-held, powerful pocket computer, with full Internet access, and selling it as a telephone through multiple mobile phone outlets, Apple have done what no other phone manufacturer had been able to do, despite being in the business for years, and that was sell such a device to ordinary consumers, by showing them that such a device didn't have to be stupidly complicated and difficult to understand and use. I previously had two so-called smart phones, and they were unbelievably frustrating to use, either due to the size of screen, battery life or OS. The Nokia I had before this iPhone would drain it's battery in two hours just listening to music, the XDA before that was impossible to use for just about anything other than texting and phoning. I have never had an issue with the quality of calls on the iPhone, in contrast to the lousey reception on the Nokia, which I stopped using for phone calls without a headset on because I could hardly hear what people were saying, whereas the iPhone is crystal clear. I'm really looking forward to my next upgrade from the 3G I have now to the 4G in June, with its 5Mp camera and 64Gb capacity, and its multicore processor. This 16Gb one is practically full up with music, books, maps, etc, all of which go to making my everday life just that little bit better, in ways your insignificant little brain obviously fails to comprehend.
Bonj - I have a quality ten quid alarm clock to wake me up in the morning *. Why would I use my phone?
* my 3 year old however always beats the alarm clock!
Posted whilst browsing on my iPod
Yes but the difference is, a computer is just as good at those things* as a separate one, an iphone isn't as good at being a camera, sat nav, or mp3 player, or even a phone, as a dedicated one is.
Sorry for being blunt but you're an idiot, its not supposed to be as good as stand alone devices (except maybe the MP3 player), it does all those things really very well in an easy to use way 🙄
ps. I don't own an iPhone but do have an iPod Touch which is relegated to sitting in my car glove box as my nokia 5800 does most of what the touch does but not quite as well, but it is my phone and i have with me at all times.
Another thing the iphone doesn't do is allow you to record voice calls. I can do that with the Nokia. For such a "clever" device, I was surprised at the number of limitations I found in the week I had one. However, if I could find a similar contract without the signal issues, I'd consider trying again.
Onzadog, you've whinged constantly about the Vodafone signal, but I've had mine since the 14th, and it's been a fine. A darn sight less clunky on 3g than the piece of sheeite N95 8GB I'd had previously. I guess it comes down to where you live, but mine is absolutely fine.
God I got bored half way down the 1st page of this and skipped the rest ( by flicking upwards with my finger). What a waste of energy and time.
If you don't like iPhones don't get one and move on. Why bother trying to get support from people on here to justify your views?
I love mine, end of story.
(sent from my iPhone)
I never buy anything because of marketing bobbins, it HAS to be functional. I own an iPhone. It is massively functional!! There were loads of reasons why I got one, but one of the overriding things was that it means I have most of the things I need day to day in one device. I need to access email regularly for some voluntary work- I have that with me all the time with the iPhone. I use a paper map for the most part, but google maps gets me through cities and built up areas where using nap would be more dangerous. It has a very good mp3 player, which lasts a LONG time. So, just to do that little lot would need me to carry round a laptop with 3g dongle, an mp3 player, and a sat nav. Oh, and a phone to make calls. The additional facts that it has a camera for quick snaps (that's another device I don't have to lug around all the time, obviously unless I want decent shots),thousands of apps that make day to day things a bit easier (I always track fuel consumption of my car - mainly to see if anything is wrong with it- there's an app for that 😉 ), it will soon have is mapping on it in the form of memory map, and with a Dahon case could conceivably be used on a bike.
All progress to making life that bit simpler.
Do you live in a cave, cook on an open fire, eat with your fingers and walk everywhere?
i don't own an iphone, because if i did i know i'd be playing with it constantly and also i quite like my monthly bills to be in the £5-£10 range. i can't really justify an extra £300 a year for a gadget myself, but i can see why others like them
despite the fact that the iphone doesn't really do anything new, you can't deny that Apple have succeeded in packaging technology that was already around and making it work really well together
i guess they're a bit like facebook. there were plenty of social networking sites around for ages before them, they just executed theirs in a way that made it accessible to everyone
some of these comments remind me a lot of my Dad! (sorry)
he's by no means a technophobe, but if he comes across something that's new to him he'll bang the mouse and swear instead of working out how to use it! however school kids manage ok, what's that all about?!?!
"b*st*rds!! why do they have to make it so complicated?!" etc etc
i'll be like him one day 🙂
You could go on.... Massively intuitive to use, qwerty keyboard (emails on predictive text phones are laborious), best calendar of any phone I looked at when I was considering the iPhone... The list is endless....
All sent from iPhone.
deadlydarcy, you're right, I have moaned about the signal as I'm a tad peeved at it. My point is, it's not just "I love iPhone" or "I hate iPhone". The service provider has a bit to do with it. The thing I have noticed is that where a Nokia works fine on the local signal, the iPhone struggles (YMMV). I like the device and the concept but it didn't work for me as Apple's ability to make a phone seems to be noticeably below that of Nokia. Perhaps a little unfair that I'm comparing a normal Nokia phone to an Apple smartphone but that's just what I've found. It's not just a whinge, someone might find that information useful.
In Vodafone's defence, when I told them there were signal issues, they did offer to sell me a gateway device to use in my home that would cost me £50. Make of that what you will.
Anyway, I'm off to ride my bike!
yes but it's A PHONE!!!
Well there's your first misconception, it's way more than that. As for those saying people buy them because they believe the marketing hype, some may, I didn't. I bought it because it seemed to offer all the disparate devices I've owned previously in one useable package and so far it hasn't disappointed me.
I wanted a new iPod when I bought mine (outright on PAYG), my old 4 Gb wasn't big enough, so that accounted for halt the cost immediately. I can plug an iPod in in both my cars, I'd regularly forget to pick up my iPod.
I have it synced to my work calender so I've always got that with me which I never managed properly with a PDA, I've got my contacts with it set up properly and synced with my home PC (first time I've ever been motivated to do this properly). I use it occaisionally to pick up email when I'm away from a PC, don't do it often but it's been very useful, same with web access. The only device it hasn't really replaced yet is my bike GPS but I may have another go at looking at that, didn't realise you could get the maps resident on the phone and OS ,mapping at that, my fault for getting a cheap app. The camera's useful too, not as good as my stand alone camera, but then as I don't carry my main camera around much the iPhone is at least with me.
It's way more than a normal phone, if you don't get it, that may because you haven't had the chance to use one or it doesn't fit into your lifestyle, fine, no issues, but don't assume those of us with them are just sucked into the marketing. Mine has definitely made my life marginal better and for me that's been good.
I'm sure other brands of Smartphone are good too, I went iPhone because all my music was in iTunes format, it's since also proved to be very easy to use.
I had an iPhone, but then I noticed common folks with them, people who drank CARLING LAGER FFS!!! And as I am FAR too cool for that, I sold it and now I use a rather retro feeling Nokia.
And that is the reason why I am going to grown a beard, you should do the same.
its not supposed to be as good as stand alone devices
so ... why not have standalone devices then?
Sorry but while you're all sat there browsing the internet and responding to this thread on your iphone feeling all smug at the irony of responding to a thread about the moronicity of [i]some[/i] (not all,before you all get on your high horse) iphone users, I'm afraid that all you're doing is limiting yourself to a 3 inch screen in order to browse the internet away from your PC *[i]just because you can[/i]*.
OK, admit it - how many of you are using your iphone to access the internet from the living room when you've got your PC sitting idle in the next room? Pointless.
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i'm going to get this phone:
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OK, admit it - how many of you are using your iphone to access the internet from the living room when you've got your PC sitting idle in the next room? Pointless.
I am in the bath.
HTH.
The best thing about my £15 Tesco Value Nokia is not only does its alarm clock WAKE ME UP WHEN IT'S OFF, but it has also got A TORCH!!
The best thing about my £15 Tesco Value Nokia is not only does its alarm clock WAKE ME UP WHEN IT'S OFF, but it has also got A TORCH!!
Well, if that's the best thing about it, no wonder it only cost you 15 quid!!
Maybe you can use it to phone in your complaint about your Google phone
[url= http://www.pcworld.com/article/186399/google_faces_deluge_of_nexus_one_complaints.html ]http://www.pcworld.com/article/186399/google_faces_deluge_of_nexus_one_complaints.html[/url]
The long battery life will be handy!
An iphone would'nt last a day in my hands, my old nokia gets soaking everytime it rains ( if i'm working), gets dropped alot and still works. Its been filled with water before now (several times), but take the battery out and put on a very hot radiator...sorted. Good piece of kit the iphone but not that good, HTC HD2 is better and i've used both. IMO of course!!!

