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But it’s Araf in Welsh


 
Posted : 31/10/2017 11:18 pm
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But it’s Araf in Welsh
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Posted : 31/10/2017 11:33 pm
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The only other asymmetric bits of the car are the steering column and driver

And the engine and transmission on transverse engined cars, plus the exhaust system, battery, windscreen wipers, washer fluid reservoir, sometimes the spare tyre, etc, etc. Lots of parts of cars are asymetric.


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 12:44 am
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That's r[b][u]o[/u][/b]ping


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 6:52 am
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Not the case on my Kia Rio...arrows points to right (on right of icon) but cap is on left...


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 8:01 am
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Yeah I've got that arrow on my motorbike.


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 8:07 am
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You've got to wonder why, in this day and age of computer design and international car models, the manufacturers don't do the sensible thing and put two filler caps on each car, one either side.

Lots of older cars had this, although they mostly had two fuel tanks as well.

Is this a joke :-)? Lots of reasons why not - adds unnecessary weight and expense, poor use of space etc etc.


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 8:33 am
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Ooh we could fill from both sides AT THE SAME TIME!


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 8:38 am
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Is this a joke :-)?

Do I strike you as the sort of guy who makes jokes?

adds unnecessary weight and expense, poor use of space

Yep, those crazy car manufacturers hate adding weight and expense to their cars.


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 9:37 am
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[i]Not the case on my Kia Rio...arrows points to right (on right of icon) but cap is on left..[/i]

That's not a real car though 😉


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 9:42 am
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Hmmm!


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 9:47 am
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Hmmm!

Indeed - icon on gauge has arrow on left, pointing left, icon in centre (distance left in tank) is on left but points right!


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 10:07 am
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The arrow isn't that common. It would be nice though, I know where the one is on my car, but the Van is always a double-bluff I like to play on myself.
Some manufacturers have the arrow in their design guidelines. A couple of markets have it as a requirement. None in Europe AFAIK.

Now, what follows is a half-remembered, possibly made-up in my head, half-guess on my part, but:
Completely made up. 😉

With most cars unless there's an over-riding need to put it on the left, will put it on the right side. They fit the filler cap and tank that side because, when full, it's heavy 40Kgs or so for 60Ltrs of fuel. The only other asymmetric bits of the car are the steering column and driver so it helps it balance the car. Remembering of course that most cars would have been designed from the outset to be LHD.
In most/many passenger cars the tank goes almost completely across the car, so there is no balance issue. And as already pointed out, the bits you can't see are almost completely asymmetric. Even some cars with inline drivelines angle the engine over one way or the other.

Some hybrids, city cars and vans have single sided tanks. The 50 or 60 cars i've been under in the last ~18 months all had pretty much full width tanks, except for the half dozen hybrids, which were probably half and half.


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 10:08 am
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Indeed - icon on gauge has arrow on left, pointing left, icon in centre (distance left in tank) is on left but points right!

It's the one on the fuel gauge you use, the one for the dirving info is indicating it’s for fuel.


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 10:08 am
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Indeed - icon on gauge has arrow on left, pointing left, icon in centre (distance left in tank) is on left but points right!

The one in the middle is saying 'you can travel 127 miles until you need to refuel' - that's how I have always understood that infographic.


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 10:20 am
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If the fuel tank was on one side you'd get variable load as you used up the fuel. Modern cars weigh upwards of a tonne, 40Kg difference across the width of the car isn't that much for the suspension to deal with. It would only be the full 40Kg if the centre of the tank were directly over one of the wheels. In practice the centre of the tank is somewhere close to 1/3rd the way across the width of the car and will be counter balanced by something like the spare wheel (in those cars that have them).

Commercial planes (possibly all larger planes) have pumps to move fuel between the various tanks to keep the plane's trim within some tolerance as the fuel is used.


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 10:30 am
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Double hmmmm, Drac - engine running yet using phone at the wheel? Burn him!! 😆

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Posted : 01/11/2017 10:51 am
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SLOW painted on the road not only means: drive slow with caution but is [b]also an acronym/slogan for Speed Low[/b][i]

No it isn't. That is a [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backronym ]backronym[/url]

#fakenews


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 11:05 am
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They managed to paint it upside down near here recently


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 11:13 am
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Or were you on the wrong side of the road Rachel? Knee down and cranked right over at warp speed too 8)


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 11:20 am
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In my dreams


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 11:21 am
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adds unnecessary weight and expense, poor use of space

Yep, those crazy car manufacturers hate adding weight and expense to their cars.

🙂 You missed out the key word; 'unnecessary'. Far cheaper and lighter to add a little arrow on the dashboard, or have the expectation that anyone driving their cars will manage to remember which side the cap is on. Unnecessary weight makes economy look bad (hurts sales). Added cost without perceived value (few people will see fuel caps on both sides as worth paying extra for) also hurts sales. It's just not in the interest of manufacturers.

Summary: fuel caps on both sides of the car is a stupid idea, which is why you don't see it :D.


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 11:43 am
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Double hmmmm, Drac - engine running yet using phone at the wheel? Burn him!! 😆

To quote Drac on [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/iphone-x/page/9#post-8712636 ]a recent thread[/url]:

[b][i]"You're driving why are you touching your phone?"[/i][/b]

😆 😉


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 11:47 am
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For all you Drac haters out there, I think you'll find it is an image he found on the interweb.

Unless I not only have the identical car with the identical milage, with the same temperature outside but also have just managed to photograph it in exactly the same lighting conditions....

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Clicky wink [url= https://www.drive.co.uk/all-new-kia-rio-reviewed/ ];-)[/url]


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 11:58 am
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Epic fail there Graham.


 
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Sorry Drac - were you hoping to leave the trap set a bit longer before reeling them in LOL 🙂


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 12:04 pm
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Summary: fuel caps on both sides of the car is a stupid idea, which is why you don't see it :D.

No, Panoramic glass roofs on cars are a stupid idea as they add unneccessary weight and expense and, crucially, add absolutely no utility value to a car whatsoever unless you're routinely pursued by helicopters.

Dual fuel fillers, on the other hand, would be supremely useful and are, therefore, an excellent idea.

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Posted : 01/11/2017 12:16 pm
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Why not make petrol station pump lines longer.


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 12:34 pm
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Dual fuel fillers, on the other hand, would be supremely useful and are, therefore, an excellent idea.

A cheaper alternative to dual fuel fillers is to simply look at the car you are about to get into.
If there isn't a fuel filler flap on the side you are entering, you can be assured that it will be on the opposing side.

(Readers should be advised that this will not work if entry is to be gained via the boot)

I love Jaws. 😀


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 12:42 pm
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No, Panoramic glass roofs on cars are a stupid idea as they add unneccessary weight and expense and, crucially, add absolutely no utility value to a car whatsoever unless you're routinely pursued by helicopters.

In Your Opinion, of course.

We've got one in the family fun bus & it makes the cabin nice & bright. It's quite nice watching the clouds go by too (as a passenger obvs...).
You missed a couple of disadvantages from your list that are potentially more important - you lose a bit of headroom (perhaps an issue if you are tall) and if you leave it open on a hot day, the car gets VERY hot inside.
But, ours came as part of the spec level when we bought the car second hand. Not sure I would go out of my way to get a car with a panoramic roof, but it's a nicer feature for me to have than dual side fuel fillers.... 😀

View from the back of the family fun bus

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Posted : 01/11/2017 12:45 pm
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for Speed Low[i]
No it isn't. That is a backronym
#fakenews

thanks for letting us know 8)


 
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Dual fuel fillers, on the other hand, would be supremely useful and are, therefore, an excellent idea.

Nope. Dumb idea for a problem that doesn't exist. 😆


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 1:05 pm
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Nope. Dumb idea for a problem that doesn't exist

Nope. Smart idea for dumb people who clearly do exist. 😉


 
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I will agree that dumb people do exist. See post above for proof. 😆


 
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Whatever.....I give up.

Gently trolling these threads is not so much fun now that Ling is gone.

This was your first clue.....

Do I strike you as the sort of guy who makes jokes?

I think I might be suffering from PLTD.


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 1:16 pm
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For all you Drac haters out there, I think you'll find it is an image he found on the interweb.

Pffffttt... posting it is still tantamount to condoning it. Hang'em I say 😉


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 1:16 pm
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No difference I just thought it was a nice touch (assuming it is true and deliberate and not something that's been done in retrospect) that the word the acronym makes also matches the actual acronym as opposed to something like DWCC (Drive with Care and Caution) which doesn't make sense as an acronym.

DWCC isn't an acronym. Not a lot of people know that.


 
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Whatever.....I give up.

Gently trolling these threads is not so much fun now that Ling is gone.

Maybe stop trying quite so hard....


 
Posted : 01/11/2017 1:21 pm
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Whatever.....I give up.

Gently trolling these threads is not so much fun now that Ling is gone.

While this is going to sound a bit Edinburgh Defense-y......I figured that a troll was in our midst, but decided to just rise above it & carry on.

Apparently Triumph are bringing out a motorbike with a filler on each side of the tank so you have spoken some sense, Perchy....


 
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May have been already said, but, doesn’t the arrow just mean “to” as in fuel level/mileage left to empty.


 
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