[Closed] These road safety figures

linkage ??

so cars hitting cyclists instead of other cars?

be careful out there.

Cant find linkage, even searching BBC. Think it is too new. Will keep looking

DO they mean 4% more peds injured by bikers - how bad does it have to be to count ? Bugger all + 4% = bugger all
(etc)

[url] http://road.cc/content/news/51921-dft-statistics-show-alarming-rise-number-cyclists-killed-or-seriously-injured [/url]

Linkage - probably mostly riding hardtails to be honest.

A function of more people cycling? be my guess

Thanks Lifer, well found.

Hmmmmmmmmm :

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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/23823661@N05/6809098927/ ]DfT casualties[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/23823661@N05/ ]scaredypants[/url], on Flickr

Mind,

However, the total number of reported pedal cycle casualties rose by 4 per cent, and the
number killed or seriously injured rose by 8 per cent compared to the 12 month period ending
September 2010

Scaredy,I'm missing your point

no point really - thinking aloud, but the 4% rise in bike incidents is on top of a quite low (still unacceptable !) number whereas the 7% drop in car incidents still leaves a big number

Would be interesting to know how the DFT classified a cycling incident - how (if at all) are they distinguishing between a cyclist injured on a road journey and one injured on a trail or a bmx track?

By the same measure when am I a pedestrian on a journey and when am I just walking around. If I'm walking to the shops and I'm hit by a car I'd imagine I'd be included in those figures above. But what if on the same journey I trip over my shoelaces and break my neck - I'm still a pedestrian on a journey but I doubt DFT would register that

how (if at all) are they distinguishing between a cyclist injured on a road journey and one injured on a trail or a bmx track?

I'd take a guess that they'd have no way of collecting data from trail/bmx track injuries.

"Incidents" also perhaps not the same as "casualties".

If it's anything like how the "class" Motorcycle accidents then it's a load of b*llocks!

Serious injury in a Car/Van/etc - where hospital [b]TREATMENT[/b][u] is required amounting to an [b]overnight[/b][/u] stay or longer.

Serious injury on a Motorcycle - where hospital VISIT is required amounting to a [b]stay over 4hrs[/b][u] regardless of whether there was treatment or not.

How the hell is that the same?

I bet a large number of those cyclists may well be manhole/pothole/ice/etc incidents with no other person/vehicle involved but will be included to "beef up" the figures.
After all - there are Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics..........

Actually potholes could be part of it, they've been getting worse and worse

I seem to recall from another thread the other day that the last year of reported deaths showed a nasty looking increase in cyclists deaths but was still the second lowest on record, as the previous year was the lowest.

Obviously, any deaths and injury are a tragedy and should be avoided, but lots of colleagues have been commenting on an increase in numbers of cyclists and whether this is a factor