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Im chewing straw in Somerset and dont care what gets built in London as its just a smelly big city I don`t have the misfortune to visit often
its neighbours and how people interact with it at street level.
Huh? It's right outside London Bridge station. It's neighbours are said station and a hospital. There is no 'interaction' at street level, it's got a nice atrium! At street level it looks just like 1000 other buildings in London!
I'm off to learn to fly a passenger jet.
I really like Architecture and always wandering and riding through the square mile in london
to see and find new and old Architecture.
But I can't find any enthusiasm for this life less project.
Just nothing appealing at all and just dwarf's everything else
Just reminds me of the game Resistance
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I think it looks pretty good with some of the south bank stuff
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But at street level it is completely uninvolving, just a sheet of angled glass, with some afterthought looking catch grilles and wind deflectors.
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The real trouble is it's so big that it photobombs some really iconic views which shouldn't have been allowed to happen.
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And to that end there's been suggestions that the Tower of London may be downgraded as UNESCO World Heritage Site (IIRC) because of the surroundings no longer being sympathetic. Which I think is rubbish.
if this isnt enough to put you off it I dont know what will......
Yeah? Your point being? Having just read that, I can't see how it supports your statement.
midlifecrashes
The real trouble is it's so big that it photobombs some really iconic views which shouldn't have been allowed to happen.
Sorted that one out for yah !
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The real trouble is it's so big that it photobombs some really iconic views which shouldn't have been allowed to happen.
You can find some point around any iconic view in London that is photo bombed by some ugly, rectangular, concrete excrescences. In fact, it's almost impossible in London to find a view of a beautiful old building which hasn't got half-a-dozen bloody tower cranes, or a hideous office block intruding. Try getting a photo of St Paul's, for example, or St Martin's-in-the-Fields.
Are all big buildings not just willy waving on behalf of the owner and/or designer? Tower, St Paul's, etc. All just some folk at some point in the time continuum asserting their wealth and power for all to see. The engineering behind these things is impressive but the unspoken statement is the same every time.
Im chewing straw in Somerset and dont care what gets built in London as its just a smelly big city I don`t have the misfortune to visit often
Obviously an interest in the vernacular architecture of your ruling capital city, why else would you post in the thread if you "don't care" 🙄
njee20 - Member
^^^ seriously? What do you think is going to happen in 20 years?!
I like it. Some of moral bollocks spouted on here is insane! More so than usual.
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I am glad you like it.
I know a few of the steel fixers who built it ! one used to complain he always had too many nuts and bolts left..........its only a matter of time, anyway apart from that its not even straight(as in 90 deg to the floor straight)
Flying out of a very foggy heathrow earlier this year we cleared the fog only the Shard and Canary Wharf were poking out. They looked amazing. Sort of ethereal in a sci-fi way. The best view I've seen of it!
Flying out of a very foggy heathrow earlier this year we cleared the fog only the Shard and Canary Wharf were poking out. They looked amazing. Sort of ethereal in a sci-fi way. The best view I've seen of it!
[quoteI know a few of the steel fixers who built it ! one used to complain he always had too many nuts and bolts left..........its only a matter of time, anyway apart from that its not even straight(as in 90 deg to the floor straight
some of the rubbish spouted on here is ridiculous but this really is up there with the very best!
anyway apart from that its not even straight(as in 90 deg to the floor straight)
From which point? It's basically a triangle, all of it slopes inward to a virtual point. Do you mean it's virtual top centre point isn't exactly over the geometric centre point of the ground plan? How do you know this to be the case?
Or if the architect wanted it to be.
With the right calculations and steelwork there's no particular need for the apex to be above the base at all.
mashiehood - Member
[quoteI know a few of the steel fixers who built it ! one used to complain he always had too many nuts and bolts left..........its only a matter of time, anyway apart from that its not even straight(as in 90 deg to the floor straight
some of the rubbish spouted on here is ridiculous but this really is up there with the very best!
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Always amazed on here at the complete lack of humour or the ability to spot a piss take occasionally, must be a Surrey thing !
Its a temple built to honour the gods of greed.
Lolz.. as opposed to all those peace loving hippies in their quaint old buildings in the city! Hahaha!
Those old buildings were the shards of their time btw. How much do you think Tower Bridge cost in relative terms? Or the Tower of London? A huge fortress built by an invading power who dispossessed and oppressed the newly occupied country to make sure the local scum never forgot who's boss. Lovely building that 🙄
Or how about Hampton court, massively opulent palace of a despotic ruler; Admiralty Arch to celebrate the building of an empire on the backs of slaves etc etc, along with Tower bridge which I think is absolutely gopping and well out of place.
I bloody love the Shard. It's properly awe-inspiringly scifi, more than the rest of these supposedly futuristic bulidings. And as for not fitting in - what? Hadn't you noticed that the whole of London is a total mishmash of everything already? I don't think it's possible to make something not fit in in London 🙂
The Gherkin
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It might last 20 years, but it won't last that much longer. These, and other similar 'statement' buildings are designed for a 30-50 year life. No longer than that. They attract the monumental rents (which are needed to pay back that investment) for as long as it takes to build the next statement building(s) that then get the highest rent. This has been repeated by several people working on this and several similar projects over a couple of years.
I have no problem with the form of the building - the short life of the building is just a waste of resources in pursuit of money.
I don't suppose the big town halls of the Lancashire cotton towns are any different; they were built as statements of northern wealth and were considered crass and vulgar at the time; cities even built themselves art galleries, which they filled with fashionable art, also considered vulgar and "nouveau riche" by unknown new artists like Burne-Jones, Rosetti, Holman Hunt, Madox Brown and Millais. The difference may turn out to be the quality of the buildings; nowadays cotton town halls are in excellent condition and are cherished and Pre-Raphaelite art is priceless so perhaps there's hope yet for The Shard.
It's a crass, vulgar, insensitive and egotistical statement of Emirati wealth and I can only begin to imagine how much money the investors bunged to London to get planning permission.
Sounds like he has done a bit of research especially with regard to its appearance,
His research really paid off, apart from the bit about it being a crass, vulgar, insensitive and egotistical statement of Emirati wealth and the bit about the bungs to "London". (By the wealth, can wealth have ego when it's not a sentient being?)
I know a few of the steel fixers who built it ! one used to complain he always had too many nuts and bolts left..........its only a matter of time, anyway apart from that its not even straight(as in 90 deg to the floor straight
Always amazed on here at the complete lack of humour or the ability to spot a piss take occasionally, must be a Surrey thing !
Is that the Edinburgh defence being deployed in London ?
perhaps there's hope yet for The Shard.
Other than it not still standing in 100 years, like the buildings you mentioned, yeah.
Is that the Edinburgh defence being deployed in London ?
Used to perfection, storming!
It might last 20 years, but it won't last that much longer.
These, and other similar 'statement' buildings are designed for a 30-50 year life. No longer than that.
Yep, the Empire State Building, Chrysler Building, Eiffel Tower (I know that was intended for the short term), Sears Tower, Transamerica Pyramid etc are all about to fall down.
In fact... of the 18 'world's tallest buildings' since 1870, one was destroyed by fire, one was hit by a plane, one was demolished in 1953 after >60 years, one demolished in 1963 after 70 years, one in 1968 after 60 years and all the others are still standing. How lucky.