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Will have a look, ta.
I don't mind the bits swinging about, it's the thigh chaffage that's the problem.
I suppose a link would help:
Niksa Mens Compression Shorts Base Layer Tights 3 Pack,Sport Gym Fitness Training Workout Pants Leggings Cool Dry for Running Jogging Exercise,L https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07BPK7KC4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_w4FiEb0Q09QG0
Are the £4 ones from Decathlon decent enough?
They are for me. They don’t chafe and hold everything where it should be. They’re all I use.
Decathlon ones here too. Size up quite small I think but very good.
These are great, done lots of really long runs in them (BG etc) with no issues:
https://www.decathlon.co.uk/kiprun-mens-tight-run-shorts-id_8500812.html
I have some rather expensive part merino Runderwear undies, and the 5-pack for a tenner of synthetic running briefs I got from eBay are just as good at a tiny fraction of the price
Are the £4 ones from Decathlon decent enough?
Yes, no chafe in any of the ultras I did in them, they're great value.
The best shorts I have running wise are the Primark lined ones, they're fantastic, well fitted, stretchy and don't need undies.
7 or 8 quid well spent.
Re shorts, I have several pairs of Decathlon’s that they no longer make that are brilliant. Thankfully, some very short ASICS that I found in Sport Direct are a very good replacement.
Didn't know people ran in undercrackers. Every day a school day etc
I like 118 118 short shorts, Spyro do a good pair (it's an own brand from a Spanish Decathlonalike) but hard to find otherwise.
Are the £4 ones from Decathlon decent enough?
Another vote for them.
Didn’t know people ran in undercrackers
They're good with lyra 3/4s, and the most recent Decathlon shorts don't have an inner short. You wouldn't need them with the older-style shorts with a mesh inner to support your bits 🙂
Cheers for all the pants tips folks.
More Mile boxer shorts are pretty good as well. Bit longer than the Decathlon boxer. Cheap enough.
https://moremile.co.uk/mens/more-mile-7-inch-mens-boxer-short-grey-mm2963.html
I wear them with tights or tracksters etc. All of my shorts have an inner liner, so no need for underwear.
@surfer
excellent, that's great to hear, glad you've got yer feet back in your trainers.
Things are going very well for me atm. I did the 4mile run home yesterday, very muddy cross country, tough ground conditions & carrying a 6.5kg rucksack in 37.5min so very pleased with that. It's only the second time I've run carrying the rucksack - and I'm only 5'4" weighing 60kg so it's quite a lump for me to have on my back.
Tuesdays run was a quicker 3.5mile mostly on tarmac, and last Sunday I did a long muddy xc 12miler but that was more a mix of brisk walking and slow jogging, taking me 2hrs44min door to door - not worried about the time at all, just happy to be able to complete the distance atm.
Just out of interest, what are peoples views on running with a rucksack, is it damaging at all? I feel okay carrying it and although it feels a bit of a lump it doesn't feel like I'm struggling. I had energy left for a couple of sets of press ups and squats (with the rucksack) and then did 25min yoga when I got home. Feel okay today.
After a week of no exercise due to the lurgy I determined to get out for a trot with the dogs. Schlepped across 6 miles of slutchy, boggy moorland. Wasn’t rally enjoying it and was brooding about various shit elements of my life. I cut back through the local cemetery and slammed down on what turned out to be icy tarmac. Grazed and bruised but gave the collar bone a bit of a test and got away with it! Strangely this made me a bit happier about the whole run. Weirdo.
Got a lovely 10 miles in before 9am today, great start, was almost spring like.
I wear them with tights or tracksters etc. All of my shorts have an inner liner, so no need for underwear.
Interesting. I tend to wear Decathlon boxers under all my shorts, liner or not. I find the liner does not give me the support and comfort I like.
New to this thread, but just wanted to share some positive vibes. A good thing happened to me this morning and I'm absolutely buzzing about it!
I'm 55 and got into the running habit after joining the army as a boy soldier at 16 and serving for 23 years. I carried on after I left, for personal fitness (physical and mental) and "me time". I was never anything other than average, I ran a few marathons and lots of halves but never ran competitively (except against myself) but mostly just loved pounding the streets and trails on my my own. Running was a big part of my life. It was part of who I was.
About 4 years ago my knees started to hurt when running and then I went skiing for the first time and really screwed them! I had to stop running completely. I had an MRI which showed lots of wear and tear and did some physio which didn't do much. I was able to cycle and hill walk, but there was just something about the mechanics of running that would cause my knees to swell and really hurt within a few hundred yards.
So I gave up on it, and resigned myself to never running again. I focused on mtb, which I only took up few years ago and to get myself fitter I did the mtb fitness 12 week program. There are loads of leg exercises in there including lots of strength, single leg stuff to correct imbalances and wobble board/bosu ball stuff to strengthen tendons and improve balance. It really seemed to work. I finished the program but got into the gym habit and carried on with a lot of focus on leg strengh. I started tentatively jogging on the treadmill, gradually increasing distance but still only doing up to 3 or 4 km. My knees felt good.
Anyway... too much waffle. Today I entered my first ever park run, my first proper run in nearly 4 years, shitting myself in case my knees imploded. They didn't. It was fine. It was harder than I expected, but about about half way round I really settled into it and even pushed myself a bit. I was 3rd in my age category and 27th out of a field of 111.
I'm quite chuffed with that, but much, much more chuffed about the prospect of having running back in my life. I don't want to get carried away, still scared my knees are going to let me down, but maybe, just maybe I've got a bit of running in me yet!
@Keva
Assuming the rucksack fits well and isn't bouncing around, it's just a bit of extra resistance in my view. I generally run with a small ultra-sack for a good portion of the year and it hasn't done me any harm (latest wobble not withstanding 😀 ) Sure, my intervals won't be quite as quick as they might be without it, but I'll still be getting the same training effect.
Had a small low-key XC race today, the first since getting my various diagnoses. I started with the view that I might pull out after 1 of 2 laps if I was feeling crap. There was 1 serious looking guy who I sat on the shoulder of, with the intention of dropping towards the end, but actually the reverse happened 😮 I was starting to blow with about half a mile to go, and knowing what condition my body is in currently I took the decision to let him go rather than hang on until the bitter end. The first time I haven't won this race, but looking back, I was still 2 minutes quicker than last year, so clearly the competition has improved! Glad to be back again, even if the cup won't be engraved with my name this year!
Blokeuptheroad, brilliant, well done fella!. 😊
^ what he said! 👍
My lad expressed an interest in junior parkrun, so we headed off to Wimbledon Park this morning. Grass was very wet and muddy, and he didn't show any inclination to actually run, so we walked about 800m before he decided he'd had enough! Hopefully he'll want to return, and with better weather he might actually enjoy it and get a bit further a bit quicker 🙂
Blokeuptheroad - great stuff, keep it up.
@turboferret - that’s the best way to do it I reckon - don’t push them as that will put them off.
Took the 4 and 10 year olds out on their bikes today with mrs. Missed a Richmond Park run but it was a great day out. Mud, ice and a beer.
My lad expressed an interest in junior parkrun, so we headed off to Wimbledon Park this morning. Grass was very wet and muddy, and he didn’t show any inclination to actually run, so we walked about 800m before he decided he’d had enough! Hopefully he’ll want to return, and with better weather he might actually enjoy it and get a bit further a bit quicke
I was volunteering at our local Junior parkrun yesterday and it was hard work for all there. I don't blame your lad for dropping out at all, it's a much more fun event in the summer.
I did the Essar 4 villages half at Helsby yesterday. It was an English masters qualifier and having just moved into the v45 cat I thought I might have a decent chance.
Despite a new pb (1:13:47) I was only 5th V45 and it is top 4 that qualify for the masters (I was 4th on chip time, but not sure if it's gun or chip that counts for the selection).
Anyway, quite a decent pb and I wasn't wearing vaporfly Next%, like most of the others seemed to be, so a moral victory 🙂
Thanks for asking. I did run and it was a beautiful morning and a good trip to a new parkrun, the first one outside Nonsuch. In a large field of about 250 I started quite near the front after a too short warm up, and we went off pretty fast, probably too fast for me. I pegged it back a bit and tried to hold the pace, dipped at 3km but picked it up again to the end. Course knowledge is a great asset I now know, as I started the dash for home thinking I was almost there, but had to run another 200m after doubling back. Held on to the end with a 20:27 on my watch, officially 20:29 so a Pb by 5 seconds. Not what I was hoping for but I found it quite tough on the monotonous flat pavement and think I prefer the variety of an XC style run. Also, it was measured at 5.01km whereas Nonsuch always comes out at about 4.9km. My pace was 5 seconds a km faster. An improvement.
It’s going to be a tough nut to crack this sub 20:00 but I’m determined to do it.
Quality work @alanf - that's our race so hope you had a good day!
I was taking pics on the finish line and was struck by how many top finishers were in magic shoes. I was discussing with my clubmates if we should adjust the results algorithm to add 4% for Nike wearers. I think winner Moh was in Reeboks so it's quite possible you were 2nd in the New Results 🙂
@stever - great day thanks. The organisation and running of the race was spot on. The only thing that might have been detrimental was the fog and ice but out on the course it wasn't a problem at all. I was number 132 if you've got any pics of me finishing? Think I came in 26th. I was in the middle of a see of pink shoes with a smattering of green ones. I did pass someone towards the end wearing Brooks, which seemed like a novelty. A great event though - thanks to all the people/volunteers who made it a great race and a great day
Magic thanks - yes, 26th in a pretty sharp field! Think I missed you changing memory cards, doh, but Mick Hall has a couple if you plug your number in. https://mickhall.zenfolio.com/f27032652
Plug for my club. Please enter. Nonsuch is a lovey park.
@root - good effort. I've also decided 2020 is the year of my sub-20 parkrun. I know I need to put a lot of effort in. I'm currently sitting at about 22mins but haven't had a chance to get to a PR for weeks - Saturday's always busy this time of year.
Plan is steady increase in mileage, plenty of hills and some track / speed sessions. I reckon sub-21 is reasonably easy for me to get to but finding the next 60 seconds is going to be horrible 😉
Glad to hear you had a go! Varied terrain certainly suits different people, and it sounds like you've mainly been racing on undulating soft surfaces. If there is a discrepancy in the distances, then 100m would equate to 24 seconds at 4m/km, so it sounds like you're making progress 🙂
my beginners start is kinda going OK. After going at it a bit much on my first run of the c2-5k, my legs had recovered after about a week (!)
second run of the first 'week' went better, no aches, steady pace, reduce expectations....
Third run attempted 2 days after that. Started slightly differently, more leg lifting than the second run, but still an almost slow motion type technique. Halfway in I felt actually quite good. My running reminded me of how I used to run when I was competing in school, steady, paced breath, think I've got my style sorted.
I was a bit concerned that this meant I was going a bit hard at it, but only a slight leg ache today.
roll on 'week 2'..commencing tomorrow...I think...
I've just completed week 5 of C25K, run 3 is the (infamous) 20 minute non-stop run.
2.35miles / 3.78km
20:01 moving time
8:31 /mile / 5:16 /km
(I'm not including the warm up/down walks)
Really happy with that, obviously I had some pre-existing fitness from mountain biking but it's been getting tougher the last couple of weeks.
I'm trying to aim for a 25 minute 5k by the end, not far off the 5:00 /km or 8:00 /mile pace required for this.
Well done on the C25K progress Wookie and Paul. Don't think I run much faster than that after a year at it!
Looking at stuff to do this year. Pre inscriptions done for Zegama Aizkorri, and Gorbeia Suzien. Don't expect to make the cut for either, but had to be done. If not, I'll need some sort of local objective. I did a local trail mara last year I would probably enjoy more now with more miles in the legs.
Otherwise, couple of fell races might coincide with visits back to UK. High Cup Nick and Newlands Memorial. Fancy doing a classic in Summer, Wasdale or Borrowdale maybe. Bottled Borrowdale last year in favour of Rydal for my first fell race, probably wisely.
I'd also like to have a crack at a road 10k soon...
Pre inscriptions done for Zegama Aizkorri
Likewise, and I can't see me getting in either! Well done @lovewookie & @ta11pau1, seems like you're making good progress. My progress however is going backwards, I came down with flu last Friday and haven't done anything since 🙁
Running Shoe Help - Decathlon/Kalenji Run Active.
https://www.decathlon.co.uk/run-active-shoes-id_8555832.html
Any experience?
Currently looking for a general road shoe, and not to keen to spend £60/£70, so these look ideal! Going to try a pair on tonight. Reviews on line look great.
@will, I bought them on @turboferret ˋs recommendation. I use them mainly for my backroad commute 10km e.w. Didnˋt really want to spend more given the state of the roads - theyˋve been grand
I started running again recently (start short/slow/build up etc) with the idea of eventually doing some fell races. My current trainers are old and have holes, is it worth getting a gait analysis thing or should I just get something comfy? There's an overwhelming amount of choice for a Jerry like me.
There’s an overwhelming amount of choice for a Jerry like me.
I've said this before on the thread, but I had this discussion with a running physio that I use. His view was that generally, the comfiest shoe you try on the best best shoe for you. There are exceptions, but this method of choice works well for the vast majority of people.
He also said that if in doubt, buy a good, mid-range, neutral shoe like a Nike Pegasus (his preferred option), Asics Cumulus or Brooks Ghost. You won't go far wrong that way.
See, that's the sort of straight forward advice I was after, thanks.
See, that’s the sort of straight forward advice I was after, thanks.
You'll probably want some different shoes for fell racing, though - Nike Pegasus + wet grass/mud is not a good combination 🙂
Most Inov-8 fit me perfectly but the uppers disintegrate, YMMV. I keep a pair of Roclite 290s at my dad's, they have a 5mm stud which is just enough on wet fellside but will stand up to a few road KMs without them wearing down.
The Kalenji TR trail shoes don't fit quite so well, they move around more on the forefoot which gives me blisters on my big toes, but have lasted loads longer than the Inov 8s.