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Just got Saucony Xodus Ultra delivered, comfy round the house. Can't wait to test them out, Chamonix September and then Round Ripon Ultra start of October.
Snap! Ordered the Xodus Ultra yesterday, arriving tomorrow. Love new shoe day.
Replaced my Suunto Ambit with a Garmin 245 Music recently as I wanted some of the newer features my old Suunto didnt have. I have a pair of Sony over ear Walkman MP3 headphones which were fine and as nothing ever stays in my ear I have to have something that loops over. I bought a pair of cheap (£20) over ear ones from Amazon to pair with the watch and started using them to listen to Podcasts etc when training. Ignoring the initial fault (WIFI) that meant the watch had to be returned for a week to Garmin, It all now works really well. The most useful feature for me is the audible instructions for intervals and recovery (I often do my intervals in time not distance, say 2 min, 3 min 4min etc with a recovery period) so I find this feature a huge help when I do my sessions. Having information every mile also helps slow me down on easy runs as well. All in all a really useful training aid.
I have used Garmin since they brought out the first Forerunner in around 2006 and changed to Suunto a few years ago as the software was often buggy but really pleased with this model.
How does it compare convenience-wise to using a phone for podcasts? I've always done this, the phone updates the podcasts automatically and assembles into a playlist so I usually just switch on as I head out the door, though I can pick something specific if I feel like it.
Wouldn't want another monkey to feed with synching etc, also wonder about affecting battery life when using it for music on long runs.
has anyone here done the Bob Graham round? I've become a bit obsessed by it and see it as the ultimate challenge - but resigned to never having the fitness or wherewithal, particularly with my niggly injuries. But I'd love to give it a go, probably do each leg separately beforehand and then stitch it all together
The Rigby Round (Cairngorms) looks amazing too but even longer
if you've done either then max respect
I presume you're read Feet in the Clouds?
I'm sure at least one STWer has done it but can't recall who now.
We had a crack at it over 3 days a couple of years ago. Day 1 was ok - legs 1 & 2. 50k ish, plenty of climbing / descending. Day 2 was hideous so we bailed on Leg 3 and got to Wasdale over Styhead instead. Day 3 was even worse but we needed to get back from Wasdale so we did Leg 4. Nav was painfully slow with 20m visibility and brutal winds. Needless to say, we didn't do Leg 5 either!!
My big takeaway was that you simply need to spend a LOT of time in the fells. Long days hill walking better than short fast fell races. It's all about time on your feet and ability to keep moving at a steady (not fast) pace.
Still part of me thinks I'd love to do it but I doubt I ever will! I'm quickly approaching the age to qualify for the Joss Naylor Lakeland Challenge - shorter than the BG but sounds harder to me!!
Less convenient but I plug most things into my Mac in the Kitchen so I download automatically then drag them across manually using the Garmin Express app. Needs plugging in every few days anyway to recharge so not too much of a hardship. Music syncs with Spotify which I dont really use for podcasts anyway.
Important thing for me is that there is a bit of faff before the run but its pretty intuitive when out. Starting music and run etc and switching between them if needed is pretty easy.
Nothing as good as a phone but I never carry one unless I am out for hours in the hills etc.
@thecaptain, I use a Garmin watch (645 Music) for music and podcasts and in truth, certainly compared to a phone, it's a bit clunky to download and update. But, it means I don't need to carry a phone and that more than outweighs the faff of downloading things to the watch.
Battery life is lessened but I've ran for 4 hours with GPS and Bluetooth running and the battery wasn't empty by the end, I don't think my watch model is renowned for it's battery life either.
On the odd occasions I do run with my phone I tend to use that instead of the watch.
I have considered it many times over the years but each time I get fit enough I revert back to road/Xc which is what I prefer to run. @mrsparkle has done the JN challenge and is very experienced.
As @dashed says you need to do a lot of ascents and descents its not the speed or even the distance that takes so much out of you. If you hop over to the FRA forum you will get all the information you need and if you volunteer to help others in their training and attempts then you will have no shortage of volunteers to help you.
I have considered it many times over the years but each time I get fit enough I revert back to road/Xc which is what I prefer to run. @mrsparkle has done the JN challenge and is very experienced.
The Joss is the old man's Bob Graham. I should have done the BG when I was a young whipper snapper of 40, twenty years ago! I've always regretted it. I've supported on quite a few over the years. As @surfer says - the FRA forum/FB page is a good place to go for help and advice. One of my mates from our club is going next year and I'm hoping to pace him on Leg 5 (aka the Glory leg!).
@dashed - the time cuts at age 50 make it harder than the BG apparently. I waited until I was in the V55 range. And only just made it!
Just on the BGR front, I loved the Bob Graham Sounds podcast.
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/bob-graham-sounds/id1492261523
Thanks both re:garmin music, it sounds like (as I'd suspected) it's not really worth it for me. I always take my phone anyway, which is pretty small and light.
A rather different running experience for me at the weekend. Having run 2 of the Centurion 100 mile races, Thames Path and South Downs Way, I have my eye on the North Downs Way for next year. I thought that a recce of the 2nd half could be beneficial, so volunteered to pace a friend for the 2nd half. Normally I'm home and in the bath by the time it gets dark, but knew that this wouldn't be the case! I met him 55 miles in at about 4:30pm, he was in 21st place having run fairly briskly for the 1st half, but this was showing quickly, and by the next aid station at 60 miles he needed a significant sit-down. He was telling me to find someone else to pace and continue on with them, as he was very doubtful that he would be finishing, and would most likely drop out shortly. Fortunately no-one else wanted my company, and a coffee perked him up, so we carried on trotting, albeit at slightly reduced pace. Head-torches went on a bit after 9pm as the sun set, and then went off again at about 4:30am as the sun rose, and we trundled into Ashford to finish on the track at 5:39, comfortably inside the 24 hour mark. 6:32am train, back home to Wimbledon about 8:15, probably feeling as rough from sleep depravation as I would have been physically from running double the distance!
Sunset just after crossing the Medway near Rochester
That's the moon, head torches about to go on
Dawn a few miles from the finish
A good bit of salt on my mate's face!
I shot quite a bit of GoPro footage too which I'll edit down into something hopefully reasonably watchable
i seem to have found the cause of my runners knee at last.
the saddle on my gravel bike had slipped ~2cm, and I'd subsequently set the height on my mtb off the road bike when I changed dropped dropper.
wasn't enough to cause discomfort on the short rides I've been doing recently but enough to aggravate it enough that running was uncomfortable.
got covid to thank for finding it, hadnt ridden or run for weeks, went back to running it knee felt better, had a hard ride and was bad enough I had to bail out of run after a couple of km the next morning.
@j4mesj4mes thanks for the Bob Graham Sounds suggestion, I've been working my way through the episodes
I didn't want it to end. I ended up rationing the episodes.
On the BG front, just been watching YouTube vids on Nicky Spinks, what a beast. Particularly the double BG attempt. I think she was my age when she did that and the double paddy Buckley which is inspirational but trying to emulate such an extraordinary runner is perhaps going to end in tears for me
She makes a single BG look easy though
has anyone here done the Bob Graham round?
I've done the BG and the Charlie Ramsay Round.
Don't think of the BG as a running thing, it's all about time on feet. If you are fit and can commit to spending a lot of time out in the hills then it is pretty achievable. Drop me a message if you want some more info.
What sunscreen do ultra runners use? I've been using standard lotion but it just sweats off.
as a practically translucent ginger, p20 factor 50.
I'm a fan of Nivea Sun Invisible Spray SPF50. I seem to be able to sweat through it without issues while others make me a lot hotter. Only minor concern is don't get it in your eyes as it stings
I've got a lump on top of my right foot, had it for a few months (Think it may have been bought on by too tight running shoes) and it has impacted my ability to run. It feels sore constantly. Has anyone else experienced this type of injury? Going a bit nuts not being able to run.
What sunscreen do ultra runners use? I’ve been using standard lotion but it just sweats off.
I've been using the Piz Buin Mountain spf50. Seems to have done the job as I'm paler than Casper and haven't burnt whilst wearing it
has anyone here done the Bob Graham round?
I’ve done the BG and the Charlie Ramsay Round.
Don’t think of the BG as a running thing, it’s all about time on feet. If you are fit and can commit to spending a lot of time out in the hills then it is pretty achievable. Drop me a message if you want some more info.
Nice one! Im toying with the idea of a BG attempt, next year is probably too soon as I'm currently still doing aerobic running for stamina, have niggly achilles injuries, and my hill work is non existent. Although planning on an AL fell run or two this season
Im encouraged that I've read that a BG round of 24 hours is 16 hours walking up hills and 8 hours trotting on the flats or descents (or something). Not to trivialise it as its momentous effort
Did you do it solo or with pacers? Is it 'unofficial' if you don't have company with you?
Some clubmates have done it, I think you're right with the description. You don't have to be a great runner but you do have to keep going at a decent pace. Yes it seems that having company all the way round is a large part of the whole deal. Puts me off but that's fine, it's not really my sort of thing anyway.
I was happy to go sub-40 for a 10k at the weekend. A good 2 minutes off my best but at least I'm still moving and should be set up nicely for the winter season. And then today I took a dive over a tree root and lost various bits of skin, fortunately nothing serious (jogging on a minor road, dappled light camouflaging the lifted surface).
Did you do it solo or with pacers? Is it ‘unofficial’ if you don’t have company with you?
I ran solo and had support meet me at the road crossings. This means I'm not on the list but that's fine by me. I'd done my RR in the same style and enjoyed it. I am on the RR list as Charlie is a bit more mellow about these things!
What sunscreen do ultra runners use? I’ve been using standard lotion but it just sweats off.
Aldi kids sun cream. SPF50 and comes in a handy little bottle, small enough to carry with you. Last for ages. And it's cheap!
Anybody running the Southern Upland Way this weekend (Race Across Scotland)?
We will be out on the SUW on the bikes so could give you a cheer 🙂
Shoe PSA:
Saucony Endorphin Speed 2 now £93 on the Saucony website. Bargain for a great all round shoe.
Did the BGR late June in 22.09. Was nice to get round at my first attempt despite some rough weather during the early legs.
Put a fair bit of work into it, probably 8 months of regular long fell sessions building up to doing legs 3,4 and 5 in a day which was my longest session. Probably did 2 legs in a day about 8 times.
Keen to know if yhje serious runners amongst us do lower body workouts in the gym? Squats deadlifts etc? Obviously they fatigue the muscles which isnt great for running, however when im running up hills i wish my legs were stronger!
Also, I did the Eccles Pike fell race last night and nearly melted.
Can anyone share their favourite intervals?
I'm leading a track session tomorrow, mixed abilities so will be doing the intervals to time rather than distance. Ideally something simple as that's what I am.
We've normally done things like 4 mins on/3 mins off x 6 or 2 mins on/90 secs off x 10.
For something different I've done a kind of ladder interval session before. Recovery time between is up to you, but something like
1 min
2 min
3 min
4 min
4 min
3 min
2 min
1 min
with rest in between
I do absolutely zero gym or cross-training, but that doesn't mean I would be a better runner if I did, just time constraints and probably laziness on my part prevents it.
I had an interesting session last week while on holiday staying on a farm. One of the lads there turned out to be a keen runner, and asked me if I wanted to join him for a session one evening, which I was delighted to do, as I very rarely have any company for my runs, certainly not hard ones. He said in advance that it was 10x1km @5:25/mile, which is about my marathon pace, so sounded good. Starting the session it turned out to be alternating 1km @5:25 and 1km @ 6:45 x 10, so a total of 20km, at and average of 1:13 half marathon pace. London marathon championship start qualification is 1:12:30 for a half for comparison. Not something necessarily to take on lightly.
He started to fade on the 3rd and 4th rep, so we cut it short to just half the planned session, which was enough for me!
The session above is called up and down the clock at my club, and is a solid one. Going by time everyone starts and finishes at the same time, so the slower ones still get the same recovery period.
I do absolutely zero gym or cross-training
Me neither. I think if you have time you should do another running session personally.
I do a similar session every week. This week:
w/up about 15 mins
3 min Tempo, around 20 seconds slower per mile than my 5k pace
1 min recovery
The below 6 times
2 min at 5k race pace
2 min recovery
15 min w/down
I also try to add a session in at some point of sprints. say 10 x 150m accelerating to full speed, this can be tagged on to the end of a 4-5 mile run and as I get older (im 57) I find my basic speed (I ran 25 secs dead for 200 and sub 54 for 400m when I was much younger) is disappearing.
Rest of my week is steady running with a longer run on Sundays to make up about 35-40 per week.
I don't do gym work I'm sure but proper runners usually do.
I do a bit of plyo (basically sets of hopping along) which I believe helps a bit. On a flattish bit of road after I've set off on a steady run, I do x hops per foot, y times each side as a set. Jog for a minute or so, and repeat z times. Up to maybe 60-80 per foot in total. It's not intended as a big workout or anything, just a bit of strengthening of the achilles etc and hopefully put a bit more bounce in my stride (or, more realistically these days, slow the inevitable decline).
If I did a lot of hilly races I'd do hill intervals, but I don't, so I don't.
My club generally does (did) a mix of 1-3 min intervals, adding up to 18 in total. Chase-backs are a good way to keep people together, at the end of a rep you stop where you are and do the next one in the reverse direction, ideally finishing together at the start line if you pace it well. Needs a suitable location where all can be seen and heard.
Ladder is a good workout.
Other suggestions:
200m in a minute. The longer you take, the less rest you get. Repeat 8 times.
2x4 min / 4x2min / 8x1min (or similar).
I don't do gym work at the moment, but do go indoor bouldering regularly. Seems to do a good job. Doing it properly you're building a lot of leg and core strength
Hi all, I'm on the look out for a cheap pair of trainers for use on the treadmill, will only get used 3-4 times a week for a maximum of 30km and strictly on the treadmill, would usually just go for something from Decathlon as there gear seems to suit me quite well but thought i'd see if anyone had seen any bargains around, budget of around £40.
Thanks.
@Bazz, Reebok Floatride Energy aren't much more than that and there's some good discount codes available too. Really good shoe.
@Lunge thanks for the reply, had a search and can't find those shoes any where close to budget, however it got me looking in other places, do you know of the Reebok Energen lite shoes, would they be in the same vein do you think?
@buzz, my mistake, they’ve definitely been cheaper than that, though £60 (size dependent) with a 25% discount code (just Google it) isn’t far off £40.
Not used any other Reebok shoes so not sure I can advise on other models.
Have you got a Nike Outlet anywhere near you? I picked up some Pegasus 36’s for £33 last time I visited one, worth a visit if there’s one close.
cheers, will look into those options.
Just wanted to pop in to say thanks for the Bob Graham Sounds podcast suggestion. Am on episode 5 now.
What a charming series it is.
In return, can I recommend Adharanand Finn; The Way of the Runner podcast. Great writer with the most lovely calm voice.
Wife has just signed us both up to a trail halfie in November and printed out a 12 week programme. I'm starting from a pretty poor base but I'm genetically annoyingly good at getting fit (qs long as I don't get injured) and I'm bloody minded.
Mo - Rest
Tu - Easy run
We - Half marathon race pace
Th - Strength
Fr - Easy run
Sa - Intervals
Su - Long run
I'm currently on the first Wednesday so busted out a quick (for me) 5k at a 4:30 pace. So will that be my halfie pace come race day? Feels like a stretch
@peaslaker, first thought is that that’s a lot of volume for someone who doesn’t run much.
In principe it’s not a bad plan but I’d want at least 1, if not 2 more rest days to be safe.
Thanks for the feedback @lunge. I've been very patchy this year; I've had two clumps of running significantly with big gaps in between (injury, distraction). I like running the half marathon distance (on trails usually) and have racked up 15 runs >15km this year but next to nothing in the last month and a half. Honestly I was very surprised to do that 5k this evening at that pace.
The volume I think is manageable and is actually more conservative than I'd run left to my own urges. I'm intrigued to see if I stick to the plan and whether the plan delivers any meaningful improvement. The November event will be a proper hilly trail, so pace will be an unimportant measure but I'd like to feel I arrived on the start line trained rather than winging it (for a change).
Heads up OCC at UTMB is on live now on Youtube. Amazing how quick they cover the ground, so good to watch.
Main race starts at 5pm UK time on YouTube. Time to feel inadequate !
Hi all,
I'm looking for a 6 month marathon training programme for c.3hr 45mins.
If there's a programme which is well regarded I'm happy to pay. I have a garmin watch which I can load training profiles onto.
I would much much prefer not to have a programme which is exclusively stated in miles and which I'll then have to convert. I'm a km person through and through.
Any advice greatly appreciated!
@lunge check this out, you might need to get a new mortgage though given your collection 🙂
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@crimsondynamo last time I actually trained properly for a marathon I just downloaded one from somewhere or other - I think consistency is far more important that the details of any given plan, as far as I can tell all the free ones are basically the same.
I use a plan from an old copy of the Jack Daniels book, there are newer versions. 18 weeks with a potential extension to 24 which could fit well. But as mogrim said above, there's any amount of stuff available on-line and it's not rocket science. Build up gradually if you haven't run that much before.
@mogrim, that'd definitely secure the divorce, though there's every chance the £300 pair of Jordan's that I just got hold of will do that too...
@crimsondynamo Look on the garmin connect app or on the website for one of their plans https://connect.garmin.com/modern/training-plan?type=Running
It plugs straight into your watch and you can set your plan around either plain distance or heart rate based training.
I used it for a few weeks when getting back into running, seemed fine and you can juggle stuff about in the schedule manager and it will adjust accordingly
Great thanks guys.
I do a couple of half marathons a year but take a laissez-faire approach. I have only done one full marathon which was 2006, so I know it's a big step up. My 2006 training strictly followed a Runners World programme (since lost), which was great for building confidence that I'd prepared as well as I could.
I'll go with the Garmin programme given that it'll talk to my watch.
Sound the PB claxon.
Had a very pleasant morning at the Midlands Counties 10k road race yesterday in Derbyshire. Lovely, flat course, lots of fast people to chase and bagged a 37:33 PB. Top 20 in my age group as well so very pleased indeed.
Feel very stiff this morning mind you.
Might celebrate by buying some new shoes. Adidas adizero Pro 2's for £120. Hmmm...
Congrats on the PB @lunge, that's a decent time! You definitely deserve new shoes, whether you actually need them or not is a different matter 😀
I did a slightly unplanned 53km ultra on Friday night: we'd sort of been chatting about it on a WhatsApp group, but I'd completely forgotten about it until they reminded me on Friday morning... whoops. Didn't have anything particular planned for that evening which was fortunate. It was the first decent long run I've done since doing the 100miler at the beginning of July, and I was quite pleased at how I felt at the end of it - tired but not completely shattered.
Good effort @lunge. I'm a way off my best after a leisurely summer but will be starting to ramp up in October. I've got a flat 10k at the end of Sept as a benchmark (Lancaster).
sportsshoes.com was selling the nike magic shoes cheap recently. I bagged a pair.
@lunge - congrats on the PB!!
We live in very different running worlds @mogrim! I love that you can just bang out an impromptu 53km on a Friday night. I was busy getting sloshed and having a curry on Friday
I dragged myself out for an interval session round the park yesterday which I enjoyed even though it was incredibly humid and claggy! This was the first time properly doing HR zone intervals and it worked nicely for me. Felt like I'd worked hard but I wasn't completely broken at the end of it.
I've been out on the XC bike a bit more recently and enjoying it, feels more like a trail run than when i drag out the heavy enduro bike. I've got it in my head that I want to do another ultramarathon next year, but also get an MTB marathon under my belt too.
My own personal achievement is that I've now lost 10kg in weight, down to 92kg, and another 7kg to go till I'm back to my pre-master's degree weigh-in (I stress ate my way through 2.5 years of an MBA!!!)
sportsshoes.com was selling the nike magic shoes cheap recently. I bagged a pair.
So what's the cheapest I could get something for casual running (road/fields) that isn't going to wreck my bad knee? (torn meniscus)
I stress casual as I'm just doing it to accompany my lad who started doing a morning run and I have no intention of doing anything more serious as it's just not worth wrecking my knee and not being able to ride (again).
We did something like 10k this morning and I just wore my 5 tens as I don't have anything else...
If he starts doing anything beyond a casual 10k before/after school I'll just buck out or take a bike but he's as likely to just give up in a few weeks.
Is there a way to maintain marathon /ultra fitness or at least 75-50%?
I've done a few over the summer and whilst I don't want to be following an intense 16 week plan, I think it'd be a shame to lose the running efficiency I've built up.
I was thinking of one more ultra in November then keep ticking over winter. Is it an autumn recovery mesocycle i need to read up on?,
@stevextc, 3 suggestions.
Nike Pegasus Trail 4, £80 ish, but are an almost perfect shoe for what you describe.
Reebok Floatride Energy 4, £75 at retail but loads of discount codes flying around that’ll take 20 or 30% off that price. They’re a really nice, no frills, cushioned shoe.
Nike React Miler 3, £64 for a solid cushioned shoe.
You can clearly spend less than that but the above are all “proper” running shoes that’ll do the job and not mess up your joints.
Is there a way to maintain marathon /ultra fitness or at least 75-50%?
@mrsheen
I think so.
Drop your mileage a touch but make sure you keep one quicker run and one longer run in per week. Marathon training, depending on the person, if often 50+ miles and 6 days per week. Drop down to 35 or 40 mile, 4 days per week and you'd be fine I reckon.
@stevextc, I mostly get whatever is cheap on sale. As long as it's a running shoe, there's no real reason to go spendy. sportsshoes has stuff from about 35 quid up that looks ok to me.
As for @mrsheen's question about keeping up fitness.....well at the 50% level it's easy enough, just do a bit of jogging and other exercise. Depending what you mean by 50% of course, my current race pace is certainly more than 50% of my peak ability but that's hardly a challenge 🙂
All summer I've been cycling quite a lot and jogging a little, I've knocked out a couple of 10ks that are around 2-3 mins off what I could do at best. Which is pretty pedestrian but I'll be ready to train properly by late autumn.
I don't think you really lose running efficiency with time off, the speed has always come back quickly for me when I've re-started training. However now I'm well over 50 I anticipate this might get more challenging.
lunge
stevextc, 3 suggestions.
Nike Pegasus Trail 4, £80 ish, but are an almost perfect shoe for what you describe.
Reebok Floatride Energy 4, £75 at retail but loads of discount codes flying around that’ll take 20 or 30% off that price. They’re a really nice, no frills, cushioned shoe.
Nike React Miler 3, £64 for a solid cushioned shoe.
You can clearly spend less than that but the above are all “proper” running shoes that’ll do the job and not mess up your joints.
Cheers, exactly the sort of answer I needed. I'll start looking 🙂
I'm not motivated enough to research (probably because I know I'll never be able to do it "properly" again) so it's more of a motivational thing for the kid if I go along (I can see him slipping now its getting wetter and darker)
I was quite surprised by the results on me... a very flat, slow 6mi/10km in terrible shoes and my knee is fine but really felt it on my quads and calves next day (unless that was delay from the Enduro I did Sunday??)
CV I didn't really feel anything (we were going really slow) but I was really quite pleasantly surprised with the knee
I was quite surprised by the results on me… a very flat, slow 6mi/10km in terrible shoes and my knee is fine but really felt it on my quads and calves next day (unless that was delay from the Enduro I did Sunday??)
CV I didn’t really feel anything (we were going really slow) but I was really quite pleasantly surprised with the knee
Textbook "cyclist goes running" reaction. People normally worry about their joints when running, but anyone new to running will almost certainly have more muscular issues, calf's particularly can react badly. A bit of stretching after the run (not before) will work wonders.
thecaptain
I don’t think you really lose running efficiency with time off, the speed has always come back quickly for me when I’ve re-started training. However now I’m well over 50 I anticipate this might get more challenging.
It's strange you brought that up as I was feeling that and saying the same to the kid.
I'm not anywhere close to the country that the ballpark is on to what I would be doing at 18... that would doubtless kill me.. in terms of fitness but I felt I was putting in 1/2 the effort he was without thinking.
TBH I had not expected that at all as he won the school year 1600m by a long way ???
I mostly get whatever is cheap on sale. As long as it’s a running shoe, there’s no real reason to go spendy. sportsshoes has stuff from about 35 quid up that looks ok to me.
I'm wary as this time last year I was off the bike a lot with my knee. I'm not rolling in it so cost is important but not at the risk of my knee. I'm not going to be going far or fast... and I'd love to hit some trails (my childhood was fell running) but I know my knee won't take that so I'm pre-banning myself of even going over to Peaslake...
I'm dependent on MTB for quite a lot (extended physical** and metal health) and it was quite a difficult time not being able to ride.
**I've got auto-immune/joint issues that almost disappear with cycling but reappear really quickly - that then leads into a catch-22 spiral if I'm not careful .. which then affects mental health which...
Lunge
Textbook “cyclist goes running” reaction. People normally worry about their joints when running, but anyone new to running will almost certainly have more muscular issues, calf’s particularly can react badly. A bit of stretching after the run (not before) will work wonders.
Yeah... I didn't feel anything during the run itself.. (which was actually really good news) but yep a bit of stretching would have been wise!
Stretching may help a bit but it’s hard to get round the problem of DOMS when a cyclist starts off running. Short easy runs (really short, really easy) with a gradual build is your best bet. If you’re only going to run once a week it may be challenging…2 or 3 times should work much better.
Besides the ASICS outlet and sportshoes.com, where else should I be looking for a bargain pair of trainers?
Only running 20-30km a week max, so not looking to spend £100+
Always had ASICS outlet shoes but the two pairs that arrived today don't quite seem to fit as well as previous pairs.
@dooosuk, Start Fitness always has some bargains, the code EXTRA10 gets you 10% off.
Worth looking at the manufacturers website direct too. Nike have the odd bargain, Adidas and Reebok always have the odd discount code kicking around as well.
great 10k time there @lunge
I've really got into running this year and thought I'd see where my 10k time was. The last time I measured it was at the final leg of an olympic length triathlon about 10 years ago and IIRC it was just below 44 mins
so had a solo session on our local track and managed 20:24 for 5k and 41:38 for 10k which I was pretty pleased with. I had no idea where I'd be and even thought I could shade it under 40mins at one stage but alas. It was about 6:50 miles (although I could calculate more accurately I guess).
more aerobic training (to spare my niggly injuries) and I hope to be going sub 40 mins and sub 20 mins by end of the year (or at least next spring)
pretty happy with it and really enjoyed hammering the track on my own for 25 laps. It felt good!
sports direct, jd sports, keller sports. Think I've used all of those at least once, though sportsshoes gets most of my custom (but nike.com probably gets most of my money!).
@fingerbang, have you got a local parkrun? It's a fun way to test yourself if you feel like it, no pressure and no cost 🙂
Is there a running equivalent of the singletrack forum? With similar levels of hilarity, compassion, boundless technical knowledge, etc., etc.?
I tried the Runners World forum, but it appears to be largely dead.
I also appreciate we have this thread - which is great - but I want more!
fetcheveryone is what I use. It's much more than a forum, it logs training, has race calendar, etc... It even has a decent chess club 🙂