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I only trail run.. so..
Kit:
Shoes-Sal SpeedX3’s (4pairs) & ON Cloudflyer & ON Cloudventure Peak
Socks-Hilly (Ron Hill socks, multi purpose well padded toe and heal)
Legs-Ron Hill medium temp long, warm temp long, shorts and for now winter Haglofs thermal legs (a couple of muddy pairs) and some DHB 3/4 bibs (with the pad taken out)
Tops-Ron Hill thermal, light, medium temp stuff (long arm) RH t-shirts and Norrona long sleeve tops and T’s, RH gillets, RH waterproof, Norrona waterproofs. I also use my Rapha cycling tops and a pair of 3/4’s.
Hat-Runners open top Peak cap, Rooster open top Peak caps and various fleece beanies..
Shades-Oakley shades (couple of pairs)
Gloves-Rapha cycling gloves.
Sometimes use my camelbak for long runs.
But I’m not precious about kit, I’ll run in what I have the only thing I think is important for me are correct fitting shoes.
Kitwise I just buy whatever cheap running shoes I can find on sale. Wiggle's DHB were the most recent purchase for 20 quid and are just fine for training. For various reasons I've actually got about 4 or 5 cheap shoes on the go at various stages of wear that I pick from more or less randomly from day to day. I keep a good pair (adios adizero) for races as well.
Not sure if anyone needs any new shoes but just spotted these on the Decathlon website. I have a pair and if they were a couple of mm wider (I have oddly wide feet) they’d be my go to shoes, cracking for £15. https://www.decathlon.co.uk/kiprun-ld-mens-2016-id_8351791.html
Any suggestions of what I may have done or what I could do to remedy this please?
More rest, maybe go for 2 or 3 weeks and really ease back into it when you do. Or if it still hurts now, go and get a physios opinion?
An update from me, I gave myself a late medical test of walking around the office and my knee felt much better, think the niggle came from jamming myself into my car shares tiny car, managed run home at a much quicker pace than I thought I would for less effort and even managed to up to the tempo for the last mile which has given me a real confidence boost that doing interval sprints is benefiting me. I am running faster for less effort now then I was a few years ago when I had a really unstructured running pattern.
Kit wise, I need stability shoes for road running and have just replaced my Nike Lunarglides with some Nike Structures. They're not cheap, but I'd rather pay for the shoes that work for me instead of getting injured, paying for a physio and buying another pair!
I echo short shorts are great, I wear undershorts as well though as I get thigh rub quite bad otherwise. other than my more miles socks and nike shorts the rest of my kit is cheap stuff, sports tops from TK Max and baselayers from sports direct.
<span style="color: #444444; font-size: 16px;">More rest, maybe go for 2 or 3 weeks and really ease back into it when you do. Or if it still hurts now, go and get a physios opinion?</span>
It's still very sore and stiff now so will look at getting a physio appointment. As it happens I'm in to see the doc on Thursday for a physio follow up for my back so I'll mention it then. Annoyingly though I can only have one referral for one thing at a time.
Couple of weeks off will kick half marathon training though which is a nuisance.
I found thigh rub is easily remedied by shaving ones inner thighs and keeping them smooth.
Related, according to my wife, toned, runners legs with a light tan look a treat if shaved. Sorry...
anyone used heel lifts to alleviate calf muscle pain / strains?
Physio has me doing calf stretches and eccentric strengthening as it seems this may be the root cause of my leg muscle problems, but in the meantime to protect what I have they may be an idea?
Shoes: inov8 x-talons or Walsh PB
Kit: Whatever - although loving my headtorch at the moment. All night on 1 battery and still some charge (12 hours +)
@theotherjonv Its been recommended to me by physio before.
Not been running now for a week and a half now. Dark Mountains race wore a big hole in my heel. Its way past a blister and is literally a fleshy wound. Compeed has not been able to contain it. Bored now as already missed things I want to do.
Hoping for a run at the weekend and some snow to be in the dales.
Gorgeous wee 5k in the sun at lunch break there, really canny whack a dose of mid shift vitamin D!
Chuffed to bits with a 27 min 5k this week. No bad for a 14.5st non runner. Even more, only my calves hurt (what is going on there?).
Some hill reps/sprints today. If you are up the Wallace Monument today at lunch, sorry for sweating all over your paths...
Matt, calves are my standard point of pain, thighs are OK normally but my calves are always very tight after a long run and are the thing that needs most stretching. I've found calf sleeves help but I am aware that most think they're snake oil.
only my calves hurt
My Calves are always tight after any run, lots of stretching and foam rolling is always needed.
<span style="color: #444444; font-size: 12px; line-height: 14.4px; background-color: #eeeeee;">I’ve found calf sleeves help but I am aware that most think they’re snake oil.</span>
I dont fully understand the voodoo of compression stuff for calves and it also wont go with my runners stye of showing as much legs as possible via short shorts and low socks but am tempted to give these a go. My calves only seem to be getting tighter these days and occasionally after a hard session i will have to walk slightly gingerly as they'll be sore, will report back!
On a side note, after giving myself a late clearance to run home on monday after some knee pain in the morning and then running really well and being really chuffed with myself, I have been struck down with a cold, havent run since Monday and prob wont run till next week now as uplift on the bike booked for weekend,,,Running it gives and it takes away so easily!
"I don't fully understand the voodoo of compression stuff for calves and it also wont go with my runners style of showing as much legs as possible via short shorts and low socks"
I hear you, but trust me when I say that bright orange shoes, bright red calf sleeves, short shorts and shaved legs look is a very, VERY special combination. I also tend to pair with a buff worn as a headband to really add to the look. I'm yet to receive a formal compliment on it but I know this is only because people are left speechless with the magnificence and beauty...
My calves sometimes get a bit stiff after a hard session (can be fast running/race or sometimes just a particularly long run at steady pace), it's just because I'm using them more than usual. Nothing particularly to worry about IMO.
I won an orienteering race with martinb of this parish - but they threatened to disqualify me because of my special outfit of short shorts, red shoes and white calf sleeves - "why have you come dressed as a Japanese schoolgirl?"...
Ok, so being logged out mid post ain’t funny.. 🤷♂️
So, compression socks.. tried them, not too sure if they help me but I’ve got them and occasionally put them on post run sofa surfing.
My Couldventure Peaks are bedding in nicely. Coming from my tried and trusted SpeedX3’s is a bit of a gamble, the heals cut lower and the footbed wider and I’d partially expected an irritation or minor injury whilst I transition over to them.. but not yet. I’ve used them 4/10 runs and still using my SpeedX3’s for the recent grotty conditions, the dryer days I’ve used the CVPs and I’m impressed so far.
Weekend looks nice and clear down here, so a QECP tomorrow followed by a long one over Cocking way with a mate on Sunday. Next weeks Half Term so plenty of opportunity to get out, enjoy it.
Bloody gloopy out there...
Hampshires constant rain and dreek conditions are getting chuffing boring..
Went for a lunch run, managed 1/2 a mile and gave up and headed to the treadmill at the gym. Snow, wind and sleet are no fun for anyone.
Off to The Alps soon and quite fancy a bit of altitude running.
Signed up for a local offroad 10k a week on sunday, the hillbilly (well named as it's a bit lumpy and smack bang in the middle of 6 fingersville) which will test my mettle, fair looking forward to it (and the post race buffet is legendary!)
Decided just to stick to 10k events this year, over that I get bored and niggles appear.
The one good thing about running in this weather is that it's better than cycling! But I'm also enjoying a bit of treadmill use on the worst days (probably including later today).
I'm a pretty slow runner, target is usually to finish! However this year I've decided to take it up a notch. So far I've entered:
March - Liverpool Half Marathon
August - Birchwood 10K
September - English Half Marathon
October - Chester Marathon
Probably try and sign up for a couple more. Should complete my 50th Parkrun by the end of April too. Never done a full marathon so very nervous but I'm running it for a very good cause so I'm sure I'll find the inspiration.
Current running shoes are Brooks Transcend 3 for the road and Vapor 2 for the treadmill / gym. Looking at investing in some Vapor 4 for this year's endeavours. Other kit? Anything that works really. Could do with a better arm holder for the phone though. The current one chafes a bit. Recommendations welcome!
Could do with a better arm holder for the phone though
I leave the phone at home, I record the run via my watch...I seem oblivious to the safety issues of running solo with no phone on me but each to their own!
These last few weeks are the first time I've embraced treadmill running (intervals for those that remember) before I was a die hard outdoors offroad come rain or shine, last few lunch sessions have been miserable outside and I am so happy to be inside!
I wasnt too sure if the belt speed on the treadmills was correct so picked up a garmin footpod and turns out they arent too far off at all! I've also found these interval sessions really beneficial to my cardio fitness overall wether for running or the bike. My watch has even given me a higher guess for VO2 max!
To ask, i am now able to comfortably do 5 x 90secs on with 90secs recvoery at quicker than target pace (but not sprinting) shall i go to 2mins on and 90secs recvoeryor 90secs on with 60 secs recvoery?
I have been awful recently, picked up a bit of a groin niggle and the beginnings of a cold last week and its knocked the momentum out of me! said I would go out for a run tonight but i'm looking out the window at a chilly grey rainy croydon and really not feeling it.
"To ask, i am now able to comfortably do 5 x 90 secs on with 90 secs recovery at quicker than target pace (but not sprinting) shall i go to 2 mins on and 90 secs recovery or 90 secs on with 60 secs recovery?"
I guess it depends what your goal is, why not mix it up? Variety is after all the spice of life.
Confirmation of a place in the Glen Coe Skyline again this year. Think I'm happy about that...
Also entered the 3 Peaks Fell Race and toying with a Bob Graham in early July. So things are looking up having not got places in some of my target races.
First run this evening since November that I was too warm on... Shame it was end of a knackering week, but nice to be outside.
Anyone else have an issue with Strava seeming to start but not actually? Maybe older phone issue.
After doing a 75k virtual run in Jan, managed a pb at park run today. 27min 24 not bad considering am still too close to 16st an running with bike shoes in back pack.
Am still amused by being beaten by kids running in their football kit showing dad up.
Ok, a minor win for me today. My bromance neighbour and I have been slogging it out at intervals for the last month and a half at 0515 every Tuesday & Thursday mornings yet, I was struggling to run sub 24 at Ashton Court Parkrun - which does have a big bastard hill for half of it (I'm sure I haven't mentioned it before). I didn't manage to get to PR this morning so this evening I set up a session on Cyclemeter - warmup for four mins, then flake out a 5k on a flat-ish circuit - and to my pleasant surprise, managed 21.59. That's the first time I've run sub 22mins for 5k in years. I'm hoping it's all the interval sessions that have paid off.
So, I'm happy and rewarding myself with a few beers this evening.
Best of luck to all those trying to hit targets, and well done to anyone who's hit one this week(end); especially those trying for sub 20 5ks. 🙂
Blackpool half for me tomorrow, forecast surprisingly good so I'm expecting a solid PB, only question is whether I go off on an optimistic pace or something a bit more comfortable. Previous best is 1:23 but I need to be around 1:20 if the 2:45 marathon is going to be remotely achievable.
Best of luck captain, well done DD!
Cheers Nobeers. Yeah, best of luck captain - anything around 1.20 is awesome as far as I’m concerned. Hope the conditions are perfectissimo for you.
So after seeing a physio it appears that the pain I have been experiencing in my knee is due to my hip flexors being incredibly stiff and inflexible which they consider to be a happy byproduct of me herniating a disc in my lower back last July.
I have been advised not to run for another two weeks, its been two weeks since my last run, and have some extra exercises now to target my hip flexors. I've found some additional yoga stretches to complement these which gives me about 20 minutes of strechy stretch to fit in 2 - 3 times a day.
Its all rather frustrating as I was starting to feel more comfortable on longer runs and building up to half marathon distance however better to take a break, strengthen and improve technique then properly bust myself.
Lovely day for a run....
"I’m hoping it’s all the interval sessions that have paid off."
Minute for minute the best use of your time when training. Everything else is just "padding" as a good mate of mine used to say
*Not "everything" but you get the gist.
Got 10 miles to fit in some time this afternoon. Cambridge Half in a couple of weeks. I’ll be calming things down slowly after this week
Rachel
Thanks DD, hmmm split the difference today with 1:21 and change, a pb by more than a minute and a half and ordinarily I should have been absolutely over the moon with such a huge improvement but instead I'm just wondering if I can find another minute or so in the next month..even 30 secs to nudge under 1:21.
Well done dude. That’s a fantastic time - way faster than I could ever manage these days. Always a problem approaching a multiple of ten. People are happier with 1.29.59 than 1.20.01. 🙂
Nevertheless, great work!
Was down in Dorset to visit the gf this weekend, so set off at 4am Saturday to get down there in time to fit some parkrun tourism in. Big thumbs up from me for Moors Valley parkrun. A bit congested at the start, but a nice amount of trail through the woods before hitting the tarmac nearer the finish. Absolutely glorious morning for it, with some frost on the ground and beams of sunlight through the trees catching the mist. Fastest 5k I've managed in a while as well, 27:21 official time, not great but an improvement for me. Looking forward to being down that way again to give it another go.
Tomorrow I'm showing a friend the routes for the Brutal Triathlon, so after a lap of the bike route we'll be doing a run/walk up Snowdon until we reach snow, then back down to run a lap of the lake, so probably 11-12 miles total.
The second of my 'once a month half or above' races yesterday at Liversedge.
It's quite a tough course, given the location, so to achieve my goal was a bonus and I think I might have won a little prize too.
Retford half next up in March, then the Boston Mara in April.
The wife has now signed me up for the Dukeries 30 in May, plus the white peak half so it's all getting mapped out for the year.
Well done to everyone who got out there this weekend.
Yesterday I did the excellent course at Longsleddale for 6th round of Kendal Winter League fell race series. I'm not in the best of shape at the mo. Various injuries etc but I'm determined to do the 7 races needed to count. For 4.8 mile route it certainly packed it in. Two bloody steep climbs, dodgy wet, slippy descents, a sapping flat run across a massive bog and then a big charge in to finish. I was pretty pleased to get 42nd out of 136 and 5th V50.
These are really excellent races in interesting places. And only £4 a pop!
http://www.helmhill.co.uk/index.php/races/80-races/114-kendal-winter-league
“I’m hoping it’s all the interval sessions that have paid off.”
Minute for minute the best use of your time when training. Everything else is just “padding” as a good mate of mine used to say
I agree with this, 6 weeks of intervals on a treadmill has seen my running form improve as well as my cardio.
Well done DD and Captain on your achievements. I've not run for two weeks due to a cold and am going out this evening, lets see how this goes...
+1 for the KWL for anyone reasonably local, I did a few last year including longsleddale but too many other commitments this year and I'm focussing on road which I'm miles better at - and enjoy much more to be honest, there's something magical about floating along at a decent pace which I don't get from trudging up and down fells...
Don't trudge - run! ;0)
Sounds good fun in the fells, got to be hard work in the boggy bits 🤮
Me? Well a 10k coastal path run from Pollperro, mist and drizzle made the epic views “muted” at best.
Back home soon for another 3 days of QECP runs..
Well after last weeks gloop, today was hardpack and dry.. if you intend to ride QECP this weekend you are gonna sooooo enjoy it.
had three weeks off running as last race I ended up with a large blister/hole in foot. Finally heals, start running this week and I am getting a cold.
This year is not quite going to plan...yet
Anybody else in Northumbria tomorrow for the Endurance life races? Come and say hello if you are doing the half, I am the big lump in the blue compression socks with ducks on them and Vegan runner vest. Stuart.
Sounds ace, tell us how you get on..
Best of luck duckers!
well, full of head cold, but amazing what dry ground and daylight will do for your times!
Awesome QECP conditions, out early for a 15k rollout.. crystal clear and frosty, sunshine and hardpack.. just beautiful.
I didn’t know but there is an organised Parkrun there every Sat at 0900.. decent turnout and I’m sure the course was good..
I ran on my own, and blew up a couple of times... nice to see some early MTBers out enjoying the conditions..
The most excellent Dark Un for me last night, put on by Mr Sparkle of this parish. Headtorch race on the moors above Darwen. Pretty good run for me, ice, brilliantly marshalled, finish in the pub, free crisps. What’s not to like? Nice one matey!
Pretty happy with a Lloyd Parkrun PB this morning at 27:44. It was blinking freezing though!
I've been a very infrequent runner of late so I was pleasantly surprised by a 25:48 parkrun time this morning which is the quickest one for about three years (49 and almost 15st at the moment :-0 ) but still a minute shy of my p.b.
I'm currently full of good intentions to get more regular runs in (but we've been here before..)
I managed to get out for a run yesterday morning. Warmed up before leaving the house this time.
Run was basically 2 miles uphill then back again, 290ish feet. Pace of 7:45/mile, (including photo stop).
Felt good with no twinges, so happy with that. Just need to increase the distance and pace, steadily.
Great to hear everyone doing so well with their running.
Did a lovely 10miler on the Ridgeway this morning. About -2 degrees with a pretty biting wind but my favourite conditions for winter running, with clear blue skies and frozen ground.
As much as I want to train hard and keep pushing for faster times, there's a lot to be set for just holding the pace back a bit and just enjoying a run.
As much as I want to train hard and keep pushing for faster times, there’s a lot to be set for just holding the pace back a bit and just enjoying a run.
That is soooo true.
Just enjoy being out.... and panting a bit.
Most of my running is steady pace. Too hard too often is a recipe for injury and burnout.
Stunning run this morning - well below freezing, bright sun, no-one else out. 😎
However, my foot hurts. Right across the top of one foot, and has done all week, hence one less run this week, since a run last week. I think it may be overly tight laces, I stopped and loosened a shoe twice this morning. Any thoughts?
Matt, as I often think, hardest thing about starting running is deciding what is a niggle and what is something that could worsen and needs a wee break or some physio.
First running event in 6 years yesterday (not really counting parkruns!) 10k trail race in lovely but hilly surroundings on a cracking cold, clear day - Hillbilly 10k around craigengillan estate in Ayrshire. Feared the worst when I turned up in the car park and saw all the 'proper' runners, ended up 68 of 231, happy with that.
Has really given me the bug to do more.
Sore throat and blazing headache.. I wondered why I blew up on Sat..
First week off work and I’m feeling grot.. I’ll see how I feel t’moz before heading over Cocking way for the 10k loop I do once a week..
Typical, ditched work.. catch some lurgy. 🤷♂️
Matt, I’ve done that with tight laces, earlier this year in fact. Took a little while to fully disappear but wasn’t serious while it lasted. If it’s more “in” the foot than on top then it might be something more serious I suppose.
Matt, if you’ve got “prawper” running shoes, and wondered what the two holes quite close together at the top do, then google it. On phone so struggling to post a link, but it might help. My shoes have always felt better since I’ve tied them like this. Or maybe consider replacing with the elasticated jobbies (sorry, used by, erm, triathletes) which might spread the load better across the whole instep.
Anyway, not quite looking forward to our 0515 interval session in the morning. For us Brizzillians in the Mild Mild West, this is baltique. 😀 It’s weeks like this I’m glad I have a partner for this stuff - someone to share the pain but also encourages you to get out there so as to “not let one another down.”
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If it’s more “in” the foot than on top then it might be something more serious I suppose.
It is very definitely on top - and from running in my older Salomons.
New shoes needed anyway...
I use the cheap elasticated ones off ebay, generally cost about 2 quid, happy days.
I've tried the elastic laces but I found them to not really hold the shoe on the foot well enough. As the laces are elastic they can give a bit which means the shoe can move around a little bit. It might not bother some people but I could tell the shoes weren't secure enough for me.
I've also had the problem with over-tightening the laces so what I do now when I put the shoes on and begin to pull the laces tight, is to scrunch my toes up in the shoe whilst finishing tying them up. Then when you relax your toes the shoes shouldn't be over tight. It takes a bit of guessing how tight to do them at first but you soon get used to it and then get a consistent tension in the laces.
I too use the top 2 lace holes to hold the shoe a little more firmly in place, the details are here:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/adventure/sports/how-to/a15492/how-to-tie-running-shoes/
Works well for me, more secure and just "better".
That’s the one lunge. Thanks for posting link.
For anyone trying it for the first time, it does feel a bit weird as you tighten the laces across the top of the tongue and think “Jaysus, that’s going to be a pain” but it just works and feels better. It locks the shoe in place very nicely. As the guy in the link says “File under things I learned years ago.”
Quite pleased - first chance to run for a while where i didn't feel I was at risk of injury - had continuous niggles this last few months but have been pain free for a few weeks now over increasing distances, so i started out at 'reasonably comfortable but not easy' pace and gradually wound it on a bit for the Sweatshop 5.2k route. And came in at 25.20
It's not exactly my best ever which was in the 22's (but that was 25 years ago) ...... but it was by some way faster than I've run for a long time. And pretty well up with my PB half marathon pace (1:42 also from 25 years ago). Life in the old dog yet.
Only downside - a lovely lady from Brooks was there this week with some shoes for people to try out. I have Brooks Ravenna 3's (yes old) and she loaned me a pair of Transcend 5, so I don't know if the result is me or whether I need £140 worth of new shoes 😉
Oh, and re lacing. That's the proper way but I find it gives me pain across the tendons on the front of my heel, so instead I lace normally BUT instead of one overlap before tying the bow, I do two which seems to lock it down more without being quite so high up the foot.
QECP trails are haarrrrrrrd and dry today, 15k in my new ON Cloudventure Trails and as you can see there is no mud on them !! Yay for hard dry winters 👍
@bikebouy, how do you find these On shoes? I'm tempted by a pair but know no-one who has tried them so has tried them.
Cheeky wee 5k at lunch today, only 9k to go for my february 100 miles, think I'll just nail it tonight, have a day off tomorrow.
Disco Slippers they are, they're certainly a bit bright (and i like that)
I have been using SalSx3's for the last few years and I do like them, yes there are some that don't and I would always advocate trying them on FIRST before you buy them for the simple reason they're not to everyones foot fit. I have had no issues with mine and I still love them.
And here's the however...
However..
I bought a couple of pair of ON Clouds (these are the road running version) for yomping around in, and nothing more. The fit was lovely and they're so light so I then went to look for a replacement for my SalSx3's and the second place I looked was ON.. There aren't many retailers in the UK it's mostly online, Runners Need sell them but only the Cloud.. So I checked the ON website out and then checked a Youtube Trail running site I use and there was a review on them and then a few weeks ago I noticed a running shop in Chichester that had an ON display... and so I walked in.
My mini review:
The Cloudventure Trail shoes i have are the light version trail running shoe, they do a slightly heavier version that has the uppers in a thicker material. I bought mine in anticipation of the hot dry trials of the South I'm expecting (insert smilie) I normally take a 43, the size I bought are a 42. So they come up a little smaller and fit longer (if that makes sense) They do not look nor feel anything like SalSx3's in anyway shape or form. For a start the foot plate is wider and much more comfortable, the heal aperture is wider and yet fits my foot perfectly. I have a high instep thats plagued me throughout my life and I normally have to buy larger shoes to cope, but in this instance the right size for my foot in these is a quoted 42.
Right they're On and I'm off running.. They are lovely. The foot sole is wider than SalSx3, which means my foot spreads out more and the toe box is wider too, so when speeding out my toes on the up or down means my toes just open up and grip the sole (in the SalSx3 my toes do open up but nowhere near the space as I have in these) I think this is an important point, the toes opening up. You need your toes to open up and spread the load of your ball and I found that these ON CVT's are perfect for that. The sole has to be mentioned, ON call it their "cloud" (hence the name) and I was originally sceptical because of two reasons a) the "clouds" are open rubber type material and I expected them to squidge and squelch.. so far this hasn't happened. What they do offer is comfort and grip a plenty. The "clouds" do deform but they spread out and almost form onto the trial.. sounds odd but you can feel them do that. How long this will last I've no idea and I've no idea how long the grip pattern will last either. b) that the "clouds" would suck in stones and the stones would get jammed, yes this did happen once today but the stone flew out within a couple of steps. I can't comment on gloopy conditions where mud will no doubt find it's way into the "clouds" but today even the loamy damp rooted sections the "clouds" didn't fill up and get all boggy. The heal cup, it's cut sooo much lower than the SalSx3's, to the point that there is hardly any material around it. My heal fitted in perfectly and never slipped nor moved around.
Feel.. Much lighter, much lighter than the SalSx3's. On the ups there is a certain "spring" to the lift off, and placing the ball down again there is a soft cushioning feel. My stride felt lighter (obviously I'm used to SalSx3) but there is a real feel of spring about them.
So, second time out in them and I'm finding they're great. Again changing shoes for running can give many different sensations and possibility of injury, but I'm not feeling any of those sensations .. who knows if I will I will keep a close eye on it because I don't want to ruin my running due to injury or sores.. I've a few decent mini comp's coming up and if I get any sensation that the shoes at fault I'll revert back to my SalSx3's.. as is I think I will stick with my ON's unless it gets gloopy where I'll use my other shoes.
ON's are about the same cost as top flight runners, so direct comparisons can be had with Salomon and the like. I only run trails, i don't run roads unless it's linking trials up. All my running is normally like QECP or SDW or the North Yorkshire Moors..
Hope that helps, here is the link to the running shop in Chichester and the guys in there all run and know their stuff and I run with one of them when we meet up in Cocking for the longer open downs runs..
https://www.theruncompany.co.uk
I have to add, the Name of the ON Shoes above is called ON Cloudventure Peak (trial) just to clarify. I had to clarify that because if you look on ON's site they do similar looking, but different, shoes all with the name "cloud" in..
Does anyone know the difference between the Nike Lunarglides and the Strucutres?
I've used the Lunarglide 6 for the last 12-18months with no issues, I picked them up as I pronate and they are Nikes stability shoe. They are showing some signs of wear so I picked up some Structure 21's as the Lunarglides weren't available, they are also sold as a stability shoe. But after each run in the Structures I am getting knee pain which lasts for a day or so.
I cant see any blurb on the Nike website about one being more or less supportive then the other. Does anyone have any experience of these shoes which could guide me? Could it be I just need to persist and let them bed in maybe? (didn't have to with the Lunarglides) Quite peeved as I think I know the answer is to go buy another new pair of diff shoes...
To go full tin foil hat, the knee which is having pain post runs, is the same leg which now has a Gamin footpod on it, extra weight on one foot wouldnt do this would it?
@oikeith, this doesn't answer the question but my local Nike Outlet had Lunarglide 8's in offensive yellow and pink for not much money last time I was in. So if you do need to buy some new ones then it may not be as expensive as you think. In fact, I did buy a pair and don't like them as much as I hoped so if you want a pair in a size 12 in said offensive colour then I could be persuaded to part with them.
Glad I finished my february 100 miles yesterday, it's farkin sibaltic out there today.
@lunge If they were a size 10 I'd be all over them!
Have seen a few new pairs on eBay which I am now watching.