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The inov8s are really comfy but it depends which you get to how fragile they are.
My x-talons seem pretty bullet proof but my trail talons are just the opposite.
Both are great for long off road runs but I don't think the trail talons will stand up to much abuse, and they already have a hole appearing by my little toe.
If the areas by little toes/ball of foot is the mesh type then I think they may not be as robust as you might want!


 
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FlyingMonkey.... Re adidias

I don't buy any other shoe ... (Well I do try and experiment with other makes, but they never feel as quick as when I lace on an adidas)

But they are known to be sized small .... I have to get a whole size up.

Good Luck


 
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I'm currently using Innov8, also find them comfortable. Assuming you've got similar shaped feet you could also try La Sportiva or New Balance, I've had luck with both brands.


 
Posted : 05/03/2019 4:17 pm
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I gave up on Inov8s due to the durability issues. They weren't a great fit on me but the fact that I had 3 pairs of Mudclaws that were pretty much fit for the bin after a couple of weeks use was the final straw.

All my running shoes are Salomon now but unfortunately they've stopped making my faves and I'll need to do a bit of research as to which current model is the closest alternative. A better fit on my narrow feet and massively better wear.


 
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A little story: Ok, so after 20+ years of being a Darwen Dasher I had a first tonight. I was leading 5 of us on an off road headtorch run. We were heading towards a footpath stile near a house in the sticks. Lots of barking going on. A bloke there with 3 beagles.
Us: ‘Alright?’
Him (angrily): ‘Where are you going?’
Me: ‘Along this footpath.’ as we climb over it.
Him: ‘At this time of night?’ (It was about 7.30pm)
Me (probably not helping): ‘Why, what time does it stop being a footpath?
Him (apoplectic): It’s a footpath not a... a running path!’
Me: (definitely not helping): Ha ha ha! Are you serious??’
And we carried on our way with him blustering impotently behind us.
So there we are - a first. Given a bollocking for running on a footpath. Wow. Just, wow.
It was dark but you could pretty much sense the purple face and the vein throbbing on his forehead.
Obviously it would be terrible if we frequently took the route through Gammon Boy’s property now, eh...


 
Posted : 08/03/2019 12:55 pm
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What a bawbag!

Couple of incidences of dog bites in the last week here, one was a greyhound, actually on a lead, one of our club running past and the thing launched itself at him, fortunately only got his jacket.

Another mate of mine cycling up on WHW on Loch Lomondside, big dug sinks it's teeth into his knee. Victim blaming diatribe from dog owner 'it's cos you're cycling, he doesn't like bikes' and then 'your knee doesn't look bad, it could have been worse'

I despair of some dog owners. Stay safe folks.


 
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Like the idea of the #everysinglestreet as something to motivate getting out there.
https://twitter.com/SalomonSports/status/1103679536628224001


 
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I love that!


 
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great plan.

shame id have to run to the city first 🙁

anyway i noticed something the other night - i run country roads and farm tracks a lot due to where i live and I'm always paranoid about being flattened from behind despite running on the correct side of the road with a headtorch that has rear lighting.

I noticed that my knog plus rear light is perfect for clipping to the top of my sock - so you get the flashing of the light and the moving of the leg. Bright enough to project a good red glow on the ground behind you.

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Well massive gains in today's duathlon.

Went at 4:06/km for the first 4.2km run

The bike was a hard windy 30km done at 36.5km

And second run at 4:36/km

Previous duathlons I've been over a minute slower on second run much to the non cyclists who breeze past me in the second run.

I was actually able to fight back and hold folk off.

Good to see improvements from the winter


 
Posted : 10/03/2019 5:26 pm
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Superb mate, well done. Was challenging conditions today too, downright horrible this morning.


 
Posted : 10/03/2019 5:30 pm
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Runners might be interested in this Kindle book that is 99p today
[url= https://www.amazon.co.uk/North-Finding-While-Running-Appalachian-ebook/dp/B073XQ5JMY?_bbid=11899755&tag=bookbubemail-21 ]North, Scott Jurek[/url]


 
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Great to read so many fabulous stories and reading peoples journeys. I see we have a few newbies too, that's great... the more the merrier on the best thread in STW.

Happily I'm back to QECP, I left it alone over the winter in part because of the works going on there and TBH I couldn't be arsed with the drive. So mostly flat lander stuff has kept me (in) sane and happily 10k three times a week..

Good to be back in shorts and T-shirt and ankle socks. Even in that mini heatwave we had the other week I went out in long legs and long sleeve.. I kinda thought it wouldn't last so opted for comfort just in case.

Glad to report the brambles are nasty buggers and out to scar ankles again. 🥴

Looks like I'll be back out in my ON Cloudventures by the weekend, I've been in my SpeedX's all over the winter and they feel like high heels 🤪

I've got two sessions with Sam from Karibu booked, again looking for a mini strength/pace up-my-game-get-back-into-some-proper-pace for the spring/summer.

Nothing planned like long distance stuff (like i'd planned last year) staying a little more local other than a trip upto Borrowdale where I think I'll hack around Whinlatter for a giggle.. give me a shout before you run me over...ta.


 
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Ye canny go to borrowdale and ride whinlatter ffs! Get out on the fells man! 😂


 
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On the subject of shoes - bought some Hoka Mafete Speeds at the beginning of the year - they don't look / feel too worn but they've done nearly 500km so probably good for another 300km. I did buy some Salomons for the winter - they're mean to be their cushioned trail shoe - are they having a laugh? Horrible, stiff as boards but they're Gore-Tex so wet runs only. I bought some Nike React Flyknits for faster road work - I have some Adidas Ultraboosts already - boy those Nikes are fast, knocked 1:30 off my 10k without trying when it was raining / heavy tights and top so looking forward to the next warm day...


 
Posted : 11/03/2019 3:58 pm
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Well I had a very interesting run last night. Went out for an easy 10k along a route on the canals that I know very well. First bridge I didn't duck enough and managed to split the top of my head open. A lot of blood loss and a very panicked wife later and I have 23 staples in my head.

I have learned the following:
Heads bleed a lot, and running tops, head bands and gloves do not adsorb nearly enough.
People are good. As I walked off the canal with my head covered in blood, not 1 but 3 people stopped their cars and offered me phones, lifts home and warm clothes. Wonderful people one and all.
Related to the above, I've now had the long coming "you must take your phone with you" conversation with the wife. Flagging down passers by is not an option apparently.
And finally, if you turn up and A&E wearing a blood covered beach towel on your head (picked up from home before the wife took me to the hospital) then you get seen very quickly indeed. 90 minutes from walking in to being discharged. The NHS is absolutely awesome.

So yes, don't misjudge bridge heights folks, a painful mistake.

Pics obviously available if I can work out how to link from Instagram!


 
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So, 7 months and one day after surgery for Prostate cancer I did my 2nd ever Ultra marathon on Saturday. 32 miles, 5000’ climb with some initially ‘interesting’ conditions in 6:12, and actually enjoyed it. For a long time I really didn’t think I’d ever be up to this. It was a pretty big deal to me.


 
Posted : 11/03/2019 5:56 pm
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@MrSparkle well done! And congratulations on your 7 month post op..do you congratulate for that? Feels it deserves something.

If i saw you at start I would have come over for a natter.

I had never done it either so was not sure what to expect from it. Good route and weather not too biblical although I certainly did not expect that head wind!

@lunge your Strava said pics on request?


 
Posted : 11/03/2019 6:43 pm
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Is that a request @ajf?!


 
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Cheers man. I don’t think I’ve seen you since that FRA bike ride many years ago! It was pretty tough, I must admit. How did you do?


 
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@mrsparkle good work! Did I read about that footpath altercation on the fra forum?

@lunge christ, I properly winced at that.

I seem to be crocked. My knee felt dodgy last Sunday, especially descending, so I did two more 15k runs the following days to pretty much seal it. Rested / iced a few days, took a tentative run on the road for the first time ever yesterday, 5k and the knee felt alright so I climbed a bit, didn't feel bad, descended and... Ouch. Still not right. Physio Wednesday. Sun 24th is a 30k trail, double what I have ever run before, with tight time cuts. Would sneak into AL category if it were a fell race. Was hoping to have managed at least 20k beforehand but a better approach might be rest and just try to avoid the time cuts on the day.


 
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Well, you did ask.
Click Here Or


 
Posted : 11/03/2019 8:30 pm
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@MrSparkle Borrowdale as well, but that was probably over a decade ago. Surely there has been other fell races? Pendle?

Yeh alright, just outside 5 hours which considering the headwind over to widdop I am happy with. Enjoyed it all in all, even the wind.

@lunge I am not sure, I thought I did but maybe not.

Edit: too slow there. Omg @lunge it looks like someone tried to scalp you.


 
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@ajf, insta links above. Discretion encouraged.


 
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Bloody hell lunge that looks painful. I know what you mean about the blood. Years ago on a club run we were clipping along in the dark along a grass verge in Kirkby not far from the motorway slip road. I ran between two posts where a large sign should have been. The sign was missing but the thin steel frame wasn’t! Hit it hard and it knocked me out, claret everywhere. Came too and had to jog back to the old stadium to get a lift to A&E. Absolutely covered in blood, shocking sight but other than a deep cut that cleared up quite quickly and 2 black eyes no long term damage. How we laughed.


 
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Did my longest non stop run on Sunday at a trail race in Manchester 20.2 miles In 2hr 53 it was muddy windy raining and snowing oh did I say muddy

Very pleased as the only other time I've done a 20 was the other week and I stopped a couple of times for gel/bar/drink. I was hoping for a 3hr or close. Now for the next big one 32 miles and big climbs In June 😁


 
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It's happened. After fighting it for years, my wife has now bought a tiny, cheap phone to take running. Apparently splitting your head open is enough to warrant it. I'm not happy.


 
Posted : 12/03/2019 1:26 pm
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Went back to the scene of the crime last night, seem I left some hair behind on the bridge that I hit. Pic here if you want a glance.


 
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Makes point to not look at Lunge's insta. I liked my Altra running shoes but have to say that the supposed 500 miles you get from trainers was more an aspirational target with them, they were pretty frail.


 
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I liked my Altra running shoes but have to say that the supposed 500 miles you get from trainers was more an aspirational target with them, they were pretty frail.

I got about that from mine. Not sure how much of a difference it makes, here it's dry/rocky/sandy - abrasive but no mud.


 
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@firestarter what's the event in June?


 
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Mr sparkle it's called the summer white rose ultra it's a baby version of the winter one but going to be bloody hard for me lol


 
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Ye canny go to borrowdale and ride whinlatter ffs! Get out on the fells man! 😂

I am am scared of the fells 🤦‍♂️

Seriously I am, I run over the Dales moors near Harrogate/Pateley and stick to the hard trails.. that’s enough bog for me.

Lunges pic has made me feel ill. 🤮


 
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Taking part in the Hardmoors 50 on Saturday . Eeek!
Training over winter hasnt been great ... the number of long, off-road runs I’ve done is way down on what I had intended to get done so it’ll be an exercise in pacing it out with the aim to finish within the cut off time.
Incessant checking of the weather and it looks like I won’t avoid the rain / wind / snow...and god knows what else the North York Moors can magic up. The bbc weather is all over the place tbh so I’ll only start taking notice of it tomorrow night.
I’ve come close to cancelling but where’s the fun in that!
Wish me luck .. I’ll need some 🙂


 
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I've looked at the Hardmoors series before, it's localish to me, but I was looking at the 10k rather than the ultras... Good luck @stox, let us know how you go! Fingers crossed for the weather...

I just picked up a pair of Nike Pegasus 35s online to replace my aging Sauconys, according to the size chart I need a 9.5 which is smaller than I would have expected... But hey, free returns.


 
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I just picked up a pair of Nike Pegasus 35s online to replace my aging Sauconys, according to the size chart I need a 9.5 which is smaller than I would have expected… But hey, free returns.

You might well need those returns, I wear an 46/11 in normal shoes and a 47.5/12 in Pegasus. They're the comfiest running shoes I own, but the sizing is definitely snug.


 
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Ha, thought it might be bollocks. I wear a 10 in 5:10s and I have an old pair of Scarpa Sparks that are also a 10, so we'll see.


 
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Oh I'm also in the hardmoors marathon in goathland mr.sparkle


 
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Hampton Court Palace half for me on Sunday. Hoping the wind isn't too bad, as it looks from the course as it'll be a major headwind for the majority of the course. Hopefully I can improve on my current half PB which I set 3 years ago in of 76:03 Wokingham. Considering that I ran 6 minutes quicker than that in the first half of the Bournemouth Marathon, that shouldn't be too much of a challenge 🙂


 
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I’ve been following this thread quietly since it began.

I just wanted to say a quick thanks for the inspiration you’ve all given me. I’ve managed to get from pretty much nothing bar the very occasional shuffle around a campsite to doing my first 25 min 5k. Not that much really compared to you lot, but I’m chuffed.

Anyway, this thread and a bit of help from Jog Scotland’s local groups have been the motivation I needed.

A decent 10k is the next target, I just have to master balancing running, biking and recovery 😀


 
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Week 3 of couch to 5k.

Got up to 3 minutes of running. I ache something rotten.

Was feeling despondent but Bolt only runs for 10 seconds and gets more puffed out than me.


 
Posted : 15/03/2019 4:02 pm
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Great stuff Mark! You should get in for the ormidale 10k mate.

Well done Zippy, everyone has to start somewhere fella.


 
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This weekend is the D33 and D33 double running right past my door.

MY GOD THAT SOUNDS BORING !

we are going to do mount battock , clachnaben and mount shade.... reach for the stars. Double snow flakes ! we might re evaluate.


 
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What's D33 Terry?


 
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Deeside way ultra from Aberdeen out the deeside line.

There's d33 d99 and d133

Turns out the coach from trail tribe is doing it

http://live.opentracking.co.uk/d99d133/

99 and 133 are on now and 33 starts tomorrow


 
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Ooft. Great weather for it too.


 
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Wee bit of controversy at D33 today Terry! Oops.


 
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Indeed. Didn't end well did it .

We stayed off the hills the snow was pretty bad at low level for us .


 
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Had a stretch of the legs at the Mighty Deerstalker last night at Inners. Was an enjoyable event and a positive change from just doing the miles. I've done a few events in that area now and they are all well organised and attended.


 
Posted : 17/03/2019 2:39 pm
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Settle in.. I can waffle 🙂

As mentioned on the previous page - I took part in the Hardmoors 50 yesterday which is a run on the North York Moors from Guisborough to Helmsley. Here is the event link
https://www.hardmoors110.org.uk/hardmoors-55/

Ok... I’ll start by saying I didn’t finish it. Let’s get that out the way.

I’ve ran quite a few Hardmoors races from short night races to half / full marathons and a two years ago I ran the Hardmoors 60 which is kind of the sister to the 50. Between the 2 runs you cover the entire 110 mile Cleveland Way path. If you’re a complete loon you can do the full lot in one 36 hour race in May. No thanks!

Onto the race. As I said, training since November has been far from adequate. I ran York marathon in October and kind of slipped into retirement after the training of that 🙂 I’ve been running and doing club sessions but only a handful of off-road runs and nothing more than 18 miles.

Genuinely up until a week before the 50 i was planning to bin it off but the lad I was running with (who hasn’t trained much more than me either) wanted to start so we thought why not just turn up, take it easy ... meet the Cut-offs and see how we go. We’d paid for this so why not 🙂

The forecast looked reasonable early on in the week but by Friday heavy rain and gusts were forecast. Looks like I’m starting in full waterproofs!
We registered Friday night. Kit checked and trackers fitted.

There was close to 500 running and we all got stretched out fairly quickly. We had a double ascent of Roseberry Topping to do in the first 4 miles. The wind up there was fierce!
At the first main checkpoint 10 miles in (Kildale) i had to change my tracker as it wasn’t working, it seemed to those watching that I hadn’t bothered to start. We arrived at this checkpoint pretty much bang on schedule.

Out of Kildale and into what for me is the worst section - over bloworth crossing to Clay Bank. An impressively bleak moorland track that just goes up and up and on and on.

Our aim was to get to the next main checkpoint at Osmotherley (31 miles) by 4pm in reasonable condition. From that point the going got a little easier in terms of terrain .... all of the big climb is done by 35 miles on this race. If we could get out of Osmotherley we’d have time to walk it if we had to and meet the midnight cut-off.

The wind was relentless .. with hail battering our faces. Thankfully the wind wasn’t cold but my gloves were soaked and I was looking forward to getting to clay bank to put my warmer dry gloves on. That turned out to be a ball-ache .. getting wet, old hands into a pair of thick fleecy cycling gloves isn’t easy. I spent the climb up to Wainstones trying to get my fingers into them.

I knew we were going slow by this point. My running buddy wasn’t moving fast and he was walking on sections that we should have been running.
The wind over the wainstones ‘three sisters’ was scary. It could knock you off the track. Definitely the wildest conditions I’ve ever ran in.

We made it through Carlton Bank, next stop Scugdale. A few jelly sweets and some Pepsi and we continued.
I was starting to feel a little tired but still quite upbeat and optimistic although I knew my partner was probably thinking he might want to stop at Osmotherley. He didn’t tell me this until we were a few miles from the checkpoint but I had a feeling it was coming.

We got into Osmotherley village hall at 17:15 - much later than we’d hoped. The cut-off was 18:15 so we were well within that.
We had a discussion and we decided to call it a day.
Honestly, I was gutted not to complete it but on the back of very little training we did remarkably well covering 31 miles and almost 7400ft ascent in brutal conditions.

I do believe I could have carried on ... I would have if my partner had but 20 Miles on my own, in sopping gear, wet gloves, in the dark .. on the only section I’ve never ran before I think I would have slowed down dramatically and potentially got myself into a spot of bother.

By all accounts around 130 DNF’d which is a huge amount for a Hardmoors event. Some even stopped after Roseberry Topping at 4 miles and TBH I can well understand that!

Unfortunately i didn’t take any pictures. Wet gloves, cold hands, hail, sleet and a phone buried in my bag out of harms way meant it rarely came out.

A Strava link is all I have
https://www.strava.com/activities/2217889954

You did ask how it went 🙂


 
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Stox, I enjoy a good waffle!.

Sounds a tough day, I reckon on days like that you need to think about what you have done, not what you haven't. Kudos sir.


 
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After only been running for about a year, I was a bit apprehensive about doing a local Duathlon today. It was pretty short and a I knew the bike leg well enough. Run legs were fine but I have discovered it's really good fun picking off the faster runners who can't ride particularly well. Made up about 10-12 places on the bike leg and kept about 7 of those behind me on the last leg. Given that i'll never swim competitively as I have the buoyancy of a brick, I reckon these quite suit my skill set. Just need to keep getting running miles in. Finished 31 of 72.


 
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Well done sir!


 
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Duathlons sure are addictive.

Did my 4th of the winter season last week.

See big gains quick just from actually running 🙂


 
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Need a bag.

I normally run with a kimmsack in the hills

It's seen better days and faaar too big for a hill race. - I do bivvy overnights with it

Got mandatory hill kit to carry for next race.

What you run with and how is it.


 
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Well done @stox, sometimes quitting is harder than carrying on.


 
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Terry, I use the old version of this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/AONIJIE-Backpacks-Lightweight-Hydration-Functional/dp/B06XCG9KHQ
Can fit all compulsory kit in it and a 1L bladder plus food etc. Cheap and cheerful. Does the job.


 
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Those get lots of love on Facebook local hill runners sparkles.

I bought an inov8 race elite Terry, I like the bag, but the flat hard plastic bottles annoy me after you have a few drinks, water sloshes aboot too much, I'm gonna get some soft bottles for it.

IIRC it was about 50 quid from sportshoes.com.


 
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Well done @stox and @slowpuncheur, stirling work both! I've walked on t'Moors in conditions like that and that was bad enough, running must have been horrid... Knowing when to call it a day is nothing to be ashamed of.


 
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Cheers for link MrSparkle - looks just like what I’m looking for for July race. I ran with a Salomon pack yesterday - bought for a few quid from duckman here. Found it surprisingly comfortable but not keen on the bladder on the back. Ran across the Severn bridge - nearly got blown off, into Chepstow and then along Offa’s Dyke to Tintern. Lots of climbing and not much payback with losing it all on a bit of a hair-raising (at times. for an inexperienced trail runner like me) descent into Tintern for a hearty pub lunch with friends. Really enjoyable day out.


 
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Terry, Ultimate Direction do vests that are the business, always discounted at wiggle as well. Decathlon also sell one that folks love. I used to use a Salomon running pack (now with DD!) until I bought one. In all honesty, I am a tart so like the UD one, but my other half has the decathlon one and there certainly isn't £40 in it. My mate did the D33 on Sat, we were up the Balmoral Cairns on Friday and returning saw the first of the 99 runners coming through. Nuts to that. No wonder Paddy didn't fancy it....

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/trail-running-backpack-10l-id_8488292.html?iv_=__iv_p_1_g_67963057356_c_338129057440_w_pla-329717980542_n_g_d_c_v__l__t__r_1o1x_pla_y_15177021_f_online_o_2503238_z_GB_i_en_j_329717980542_s__e__h_9046868_ii__vi__&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIiZW0-MiL4QIVFZ7VCh1jYgGtEAQYASABEgJ4u_D_BwE


 
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duckman , UD is what a mate of mines just bought . It does look good .... but im probably not going to get the good of such an investment would probably be 60-70 quid

im inclined to visit decathlon on saturday when im down in glasgow and purchase on of theirs - their kit just seems to work - ive had hundred quid shoes that cant hold a candle to my 30 quid kalenji's in terms of fit ,grip and mostly longevity

yep paddy and his mate really didnt do them selves any favours ..... if your doing shit like that you certainly dont podium and you even less sure dont stick it on facebook.

less controversial but there was a dude on the 99 took a wrong turn on scolty - 15 miles from the end , ran up the wrong hill , slept in a ditch , woke up phoned the organisers to say im ok etc.....

finished with a 33degree core temp.


 
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Duckmon, to be fair, the pack was actually a dream to wear - hardly felt it on my back - and I think using an ill-fitting camelback 3l bladder with a leaky mouthpiece probably didn't help. But for a fairly basic pack, it was very comfortable. I'm going to try a smaller bladder as anything I'm going to be doing in it isn't going to require anything more than around 1.5l drink. I'll still try one of the decathlon jobbies with the front mounted soft bottles - or the one linked by MrSparkle - just to see which I prefer. So, thanks again for the pack - it'll get plenty of use over the coming months.

EDIT: Those UD vests are a bit pricey. You're even more of a tart than I thought you were duckers! 😆

By the way, what happened at the D33? Did someone do a little naughty cheaty?


 
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d33 .

1 lad decided he couldnt do it ,

someone else did the event in his place without it being official- so the organiser had all the wrong details on file etc incase of emergency etc ....

And the guy who did it - podiumed and advertised all this on facebook.

The organiser saw this and banned them both going forward and removed their result....


 
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Oh crap, right - I'm sure I saw that somewhere...I think there was a screenshot of the post on twitter or something. Brilliant!


 
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DD, I am instantly Scott Jurek when I wear it, at least in my own mind. On the D33 thing,Terry is selling the guy's brainfart short; he didn't post on his own time line on Facebook...Oh no! He posted it with a pic of himself getting his trophy, and a full explanation of how he put on an Irish accent at kit check,AND telling his mate Paddy to defend it next year on Running Friends Scotland's facebook page...which has 10,000 members (near enough)


 
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duckman , UD is what a mate of mines just bought . It does look good …. but im probably not going to get the good of such an investment would probably be 60-70 quid

Yeah, that's what I said, bought it for the LG as that will be my first and last race of that length. But they are addictive.


 
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DD, I am instantly Scott Jurek when I wear it

#strangest


 
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My plan suggested a half-marathon 6 weeks before London, and the obvious candidates were Hampton Court, Fleet and Reading. The latter 2 would probably offer the best opportunity to achieve a fast time, but Hampton Court was gracious enough to extend me a free entry and it was only half an hour away, so that clinched it. Although pancake flat, the course does run along the Thames towpath and the finish is on grass through Hampton Court Park, that combined with 15 mph winds meant that I had tempered my expectations somewhat. The aim was around 70 minutes, hopefully a bit quicker. I had company for the first 6km, along the Thames and over Kingston Bridge. Once we turned to head upstream on the south bank of the river the wind was in our face and I was keen to have company to share the work. However the pace was a bit too hot for my compatriot and I felt that I’d be quicker alone, so it was a solo effort for the remainder. After turning north at the Scilly Isles roundabout the headwind turned to a cross, and after crossing Hampton Court bridge to take this section of the towpath for the 2nd time, the tailwind was most welcome. I was on course for a mid 79 at this point but knew the last few miles would be hard work. Upon entering the park with about 4km to go it was feeling like hard work and the slippery grass/mud surface combined with the headwind wasn’t helping. My pace didn’t drop quite as much as I feared, but I did slip just outside the 69 minute goal and my watch time was 1:10:11 without much left in the tank. I’ve now knocked 6 minutes off my previous half time according to the Power of 10, a 1:16 from Wokingham in 2016, and hopefully this will convert to something around 2:23 in 6 weeks time.


 
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Bloody'ell tf!


 
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Well done tf, stox and particularly crewlie - that first 5k is the hardest 🙂

I’ll still try one of the decathlon jobbies with the front mounted soft bottles

That's what I'd recommend if you don't want to spend too much, the soft bottles don't move too much and it's a great price. If you want to spend a bit more obviously the Salomon, Raidlight etc models are all a bit nicer, but the difference isn't that great. Another thing to consider is the size - I've got a 5l model for summer runs here in Madrid, and it'll hold a very lightweight shell, safety blanket and a few gels. But no more. If you're planning on something to use in winter and you'll want to carry a bit more get a 12l pack.


 
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Bloody’ell tf!

Yeah, I'm disappointed too! ;o)


 
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After swearing blind I would never do it, I succumed and bought some running shoes to assist in getting some cardio fitness back after having hardly ridden this winter.
1st run: managed 8 km and despite walking most of the uphills, felt good.
2nd run: did 10k with the last km being entirely uphill by which time I was done. Considerably less walking than 1st run and was well pleased.
However, next day I could hardly weight bear on my right ankle and it is still sore over a week later. Gutted
Should I wait till I'm completely pain free before running again? I'm itching to get back out.
For context, I've never run more than a 100 yards before in my life


 
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This:

For context, I’ve never run more than a 100 yards before in my life

With this:

1st run: managed 8 km and despite walking most of the uphills, felt good.
2nd run: did 10k with the last km being entirely uphill by which time I was done.

Has possibly led to this:

However, next day I could hardly weight bear on my right ankle and it is still sore over a week later.

Fair dues though! Getting out and banging out a bit of distance is bloody good work. But it may be that you've got a bit excited and gone too far. It might make sense to work up to those distances a bit more slowly when your ankle is better - your poor legs and feet probably didn't know what hit them. :o)


 
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K’inell stox... that’s a great write-up. It sounded hard from the first paragraph, then got worse the longer I read it.  Bloody good effort.

Bloody good effort all TBH..

And this too..

Week 3 of couch to 5k.

Got up to 3 minutes of running. I ache something rotten.

Was feeling despondent but Bolt only runs for 10 seconds and gets more puffed out than me.

Yeah, we all started somewhere 👍👍👍🥳


 
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@guitarhero you are me and icmfp! Did the same over New Year, went from 0 to 65km (offroad) a week over about 2 weeks and I've had some real fun with injuries. Touch wood, nothing serious and hoping to get back on the trail tomorrow (30k race Sunday) but my fitness has taken a hit from all the resting/limping. My entirely amateur advice would be that you have a choice to take it easy now, or later when the injuries creep in, but there's no getting around it!


 
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right time to shit or get off the pot.

Entrys for the Lairig Ghru open tonight on SI entries

not sure I'm ready - but will i ever be.

I've done miles , I can run 20k back to back and i know how to suffer so in for a penny in for a pound. Worst comes to worst ill walk out.

Anyone else on here heading along ?


 
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according to the Power of 10

My Pb's are pre Power of 10 unfortunately....


 
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right time to shit or get off the pot.

DOIIDOITDOITDOIT

Not for me this year Terry, got into the "sold-out-in-10-mins" Barra half which is the day before. Doing the Glen Lyon Ultra which despite being 4 miles longer is considered easier. I am also in the Blades and the Dramathon marathons this year. THE LG was brutal, and as a first trail marathon(ish) it was maybe not the greatest choice. But it is set in my favourite mountain range, in fact I liked it so much, and it was so life affirming I have the route profile tattooed on my arm and will be back at it. You will be fine, you know what is in store with regards to the route and that is half the battle.


 
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'the Blades' Duckman?


 
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