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Good stuff sir, best of luck with it!.
Mrs Nobeer still doing brilliant, 40 this year, up until about last xmas, she'd never ran the length of herself, another 10k under the belt last sunday, we just used it as a moderate training run, cruised home in 55 mins, chatting, laughing and encouraging others, super proud of her, she's really got the bug now. She's up to 11 miles in her half marathon training plan too, awesome.
For a moment this week, I was tempted to sign up for a local ultra, River Ayr way ultra, 40 miles, from source to sea of the river on various surfaces. It's got a 10 hour cutoff, I reckon I could finish inside that, but thought better of it and will be in a better condition for a go next year. I'd rather have a good go at it than just complete it.
Only 27 quid as well, includes bus out to start, good local, grassroots event.
Surrey Bacchus Marathon this weekend starting from Denbies in Dorking, 2 loops around the North Downs, inspired by the Marathon du Medoc. Using it as a supported long hilly training run in advance of the Bournemouth Marathon next month. Won't be consuming much wine on the way round 🙂
Cheers, Rich
Did 18.50 at Chippenham parkrun which I was really pleased with. Proper training starting now (Hills). Unfortunately something bit me right on a tendon that has become so inflamed I have not been able to run. I cant believe the bike has now become my x training with the running becoming the main thing!
I cant believe the bike has now become my x training with the running becoming the main thing!
Yip, ran more miles than I've cycled this year! Translates really well though, when I do get the MTB out, I'm quicker than I've ever been.
Ran another 10 k tonight. Knocked 7 minutes off my last time for 56.35 50/50 on and off road.
I don't think I've ever ran more than 1 10 k in a year before. Normally get injured after the first.
Ran another 15 miles but I now have a blister on the tip of my toe next to the big toe on my left foot. It's almost like spending 3 weeks on holiday bare foot has made my feet get very slightly bigger very odd.
What do people do for fluids in anything over half marathon as I get to 14 miles without food/fluid absolutely fine but then blow up and hit a wall. But a. I hate carrying things and b. A hydration vest looks a bit much for 15 miles.
I'm going to hydrate a bit better and feed before setting off as I normally have 2 black coffees and set off probably not the best planning. Also my long run day is normally after my night shift finishes as it fits in well with family stuff
Everyone's different but I don't usually need fluids on anything less than 2hrs. I think you've correctly identified part of the problem in the coffees!
I have a bumbag water bottle carrier for long runs. Needs to be a good fit to avoid annoying bounce. Necessary evil for much over 2h in my experience (and useful practice for marathons too). Also take jelly babies or similar.
🙂 now I like jelly babies.
I tried a cheap waist belt with a bottle in once and I nearly threw it away after a few miles. Oh and I didn't even use it haha right waste of time that was
Righto, wee question time.
Recovery - I usually run 4 or 5 times a week, try to have rest days, but sometimes my mates are going biking on days I have down as rest days, and I end up going.
Did that today, ran 11 miles yesterday, and had slightly heavy legs biking today. I'm not too bad at hydration, but in terms of nutrition, I tend not to pay attention to carbs, protein etc, so have no idea if I get enough of anything. I am however tempted to start trying upping my protein by using shakes post run.
Thoughts? I really can't be arsed getting too scientific, using myfitnesspal etc, as I know I eat cleanly, and all our food is hone cooked, and I don't really use measurements with lots of stuff.
Will it do my recovery any good?.
Cheers, G.
What do people do for fluids in anything over half marathon as I get to 14 miles without food/fluid absolutely fine but then blow up and hit a wall. But a. I hate carrying things and b. A hydration vest looks a bit much for 15 miles.
Get the backpack/vest. While it's probably overkill for that kind of run, it's a lot more flexible and should you start to do longer runs it's a useful investment (no pun intended...) They're also great in winter when you want to carry a bit more kit.
If you're feeling flush get a belt pack - I've got both backpacks and belts, and for shorter runs like the ones you're asking about a belt is definitely more comfortable, but it's not a huge difference and a vest is better VFM.
FWIW the belt I use most is a Salomon one.
Does anyone else run in a baseball cap-style hat? I've just been for a run in the pouring rain and, although I actually like running in the rain, and don't usually bother with a rain jacket, something to help keep the water running down my head and into my eyes would be good.
Are there caps that are worth recommending?
I sometimes wear a cap, got one as a race freebie. Must admit it's more for sun than rain though! On wet days I'm more likely to wear a beanie for warmth.
Regarding recovery, nothing special here but I do try to eat/drink something as soon as possible post run. Pint of orange squash usually goes down well.
I've always found a glass of milk and some mini pretzels to work post-run.
I run in an old karrimor running cap. Lightweight so doesn’t make your head too sweaty. Cost about a fiver. Helps keep water out of my eyes when it’s raining.
i noticed Decathlon do a similar one.
Get the backpack/vest. While it’s probably overkill for that kind of run
I use a Salomon ultra vest, has 3 pockets enough for a squidgy bottle or two, a bar/gel and phone (if you fancy taking all that with you)
I use an open top visor (baseball cap without the cap bit) mainly to keep my hair out of my eyes, but it’s become a god send in forests and sunshine through the trees.. also wear sunglasses, a pair of oakleys that I used to use Cross Racing (they have rubber arms around my ears) and a pinkish tint lens. Another good piece of kit worth buying IMO.
On Saturday I had my last OCR before the World Champs next month.
Did alright, at the higher end of the "also runs"
But realised I need fuel these things better... Was out for almost 2 and half hours and had little more than two slurps of water and two small handfuls of jelly babies.
Actually thinking about it now, once I had finished the run I had a cuppa, a chicken burger, a further cup of coffee and a Danish to recover. And the thing is, I was as right as rain.
Guess I wasn't trying hard enough.... But that's the thing with OCR not many are actually racing so it easy to cruise and still pass people.... I'd imaging/hope the Worlds are different.
i have a gore running cap i got in a race goodiebag. it just does the job better than any of my other baseball caps , it wicks somewhat like a buff with a peak rather than just soaking up sweat like my regular caps.
as bikebouy i used to use it mostly to keep hair out the eyes but after chopping all the hair off have just grown accustom to running in it now, feels wierd without it now.
doing my first park run on saturday this week with glupton formerly of this parish.
Went out with the intention of taking parkrun easy on Saturday, so let the leader disappear off, but after 1km I got bored so decided to chase him down! Ended up setting a new parkrun PB despite holding some back to save the legs, rather surprised with 15:50 😀
The main event was the Surrey Bacchus Marathon, which went well. A new course which is quite a bit hillier than the last few times I've run it, my watch said 750m of climbing over the 2 laps. Went fairly hard but not full race effort as I want to continue to train this week, and didn't taper either. Route was about a mile short so finished a bit quicker than expected bang on 2:30. Feeling pretty fresh this morning, it all bodes well for Bournemouth in 4 weeks time 🙂
Cheers, Rich
Sounds like a fantastic effort turbo.
Could a mod please ban turboferret from this thread? He's making me feel very inadequate 😀
I did 23km or so up in the mountains with my club, lots of walking + running. I haven't been up a mountain for a few weeks, and it's scary how fast you lose fitness... I was fine on the flat, but the downhills hurt far more than they would have back in July! Still, all good fun and it was nice to be out.
Are there caps that are worth recommending?
I've got a Decathlon one that's fine, and a Salomon one (with a detachable neck shade thing) which is marginally better. Not a lot in it, though.
15.50! bloody hell turbo ferret that's quick! I was happy to return to sub 20 this weekend with a 19.50!
15:50 is rapid.
I had the worst Parkrun of my life on Saturday, did the first 3.5km at a reasonable but not fast pace and then had to stop to vomit. Felt like I'd been pushing too hard so walked the last couple of KM's. on looking at the data I barely got my HR above 130 so I suspect accumulated fatigue from last weekends 220 mile bike ride was taking its toll.
Could a mod please ban turboferret from this thread?
To be fair, I should probably be banned from this site entirely, as I can't remember when I last rode my MTB 😮
Cheers, Rich
To be fair, I should probably be banned from this site entirely, as I can’t remember when I last rode my MTB
Should fit in well then!
Crikey - and here's me feeling pleased with myself for getting <25 minutes for a ParkRun 🙁
To be fair, I should probably be banned from this site entirely, as I can’t remember when I last rode my MTB
Should fit in well then!
Ban me as well, 2 years since being on a bike..
I nearly rode my MTB this weekend, but it was pissing down and I had a serious attack of CBA 🙂 Would have been the second time this year I think.
Finally, finally getting some rhythum again. 2 runs in 2 days, Achilles feels fine and I actually feel like I can run with some degree of fluidity. I also caught my reflection in a window and thought I look alright too! 5 weeks until Birmingham half and I've not run more than 5k in 6 weeks so it's about time I started doing some training.
You'll be fine Lunge, best of luck!
Jeez i was happy with my 28min 5k!
The Mrs challenged us to a run every day month this September, so i countered with a 100mile month, just over 5.3k a day - 13 days in any my calves have stopped hurting, several PBs up to my 10k distance and lost around 5-6kg! First few days was the hardest as I am definitely not a runner. We also have Dick Turpin Challenge at York Racecourse on the 22nd, 5 mile course, 6 hours, as many laps as you can do...there is cake, so its ok
Also just been talked into signing up for the Endure24 next year with the local TRI club.
Kind of enjoying this running lark 🙂
Anyone found any solutions to long-term achilles tendonitis? I do a lot of walking during the course of my average day and that can make it flare up, especially if I wear shoes with little cushioning. Running-wise I can run, but my tendons are always sore. It does seem to get a little better with use, so maybe that's the answer, but it's not very encouraging when I'm already limping when I get out of the bed in the morning.
i had serious achillies tendonitus about 10 years ago. crippling.....
had plenty treatment through physio for it.
Had another physio to look at it and they looked at the movement chain and they found i had tight glutes/lower back which was pulling on everything an the pain was coming out in the achillies as the weak point.
ParkRun buggy PB this morning at Clapham Common, 17:08, pretty happy with that. Had I know we were so close to the 17 minute mark I would have dug a little deeper - being on the sub-17 list having run with a buggy would have been an achievement 😀 Clearly didn't go too deep at the weekend with the Bacchus Marathon, which is encouraging, and managed 100km this week so far too.
Cheers, Rich
Anyone found any solutions to long-term achilles tendonitis?
A lot of time with a physio and some fairly specific exercises sorted mine. It still flairs up occasionally but I know what to do and how to fix it now.
@turboferret, once again you are smashing it. Our course record here in Dudley is barely that fast.
I've returned to the fold over the past month after starting running again whilst on holiday and being without a bike. I'm really enjoying it at the moment, especially for its time efficiency as a change in my wife's job means time is precious at weekends at the moment.
I've never taken running seriously but have been a parkrun regular (not especially quick - around the 26min mark) for a few years and get out a couple of times in the week. Last Sunday I went on a local club open run and really enjoyed it despite it being the first time I'd done 10k in over a year. I intend to go again tomorrow with a vague plan to do a longer, 8 mile run. Hopefully the social aspect will encourage me to keep it up through winter rather than be stuck indoors on the turbo.
Aye, defo a lot better than the turbo, even a solo run is better than the turbo.
Early 10 mile steady run this morning, I have two halfs and a 10 mile trail race in the next month, I'll probably just be doing some speed work in between them.
Went for a training session with a mate at the local club Thursday night 3 mile tempo run there 3.5 miles of hill reps and 4 mile steady back , hard but felt great in the morning
Today did 13 miles with the Mrs as it was her final long run before her half in 2 weeks. She did longest she's ran and loads of pbs around the loop happy days
Did my first park run today
Hazlehead with glupton formerly of this parish before i welded up his car.
23:11.
Guid stuff Terry.
21.39 my best, but that's a muddy, undulating course, there's a pancake flat one along Troon prom that's a potential sub 20....
How'd George get on?
21:54
This was a climb out and downhill return
Likewise there's one down the beach that's one way and flat
👌🏻
Stones with the three times up the brae is a stinker.
Lying in my van listening to the wind and rain and not paticularly relishing the thought of the Glencoe Skyline today, even with the shortened course.
🤪
It’ll be fun.
And muddy..
Look forward to hearing how you get on spin, no doubt you'll be awesome!.
Not today Nobeer! Had a cold through the week and didn't feel great but managed to grind it out and actually came in in a fairly respectable 4:48.
Well done sir, tough gig.
Thank you. I think i have a general expectation that each race will be progress on the one before but thats really not how it works!
Great suite of races this weekend that really put Kinlochleven on the big stage.
Have mostly been doing long slow hill runs recently and neglecting any speed work, so had a bash at a flat road 10k to see where I'm at, 40'24. Felt that in the legs for a few days after, more so than 20-30k hill runs
It is definitely getting easier even though all of my runs are super slow- between 9 and 10 min/mile. I feel like the gentle introduction of pace and hills will let me improve a bit more. But as long as I can not let go of the bike its going to be hard to keep getting faster.
So will my chunky legs start to get thinner as I run more?? I cant help them being stumpy little things but they are like tree trunks. Never lift weights just ride a bit. - Im starting to look like the guy from the 'triplets of belleville'- (cool film btw)
Hi all
Doing my first half next weekend in Glasgow and aiming for sub 2 hour . Just wondering what the best thing to do with the pacemakers are ? Do I just stay as close as possible and follow their pace and pushpon later on if i can or is it worth trying to get a bit ahead and see if I can hold on .
Stay with them but check with the distance markers as you're going along that they are actually doing a decent job, sometimes pacers run like ****s and screw up the race for everyone. Good luck!
For your first half, I would play it fairly conservatively, and stick with a pacemaker who is running a time you are confident of achieving. If you're feeling good, by all means let it rip towards the end to empty the tank. Once you are more accustomed to your limits, pacing and how it feels when you're on the edge, push the boundaries. It's better to have a realistic target which you meet, than an unrealistic one which you fail at I'd say.
I've got my first ever 10,000m on the track this evening, not ideal weather with the wind, hopefully I'll manage not to get too bored running round in circles 25 times!
Cheers, Rich
Stay with them but check with the distance markers as you’re going along that they are actually doing a decent job, sometimes pacers run like **** and screw up the race for everyone. Good luck!
Good advice. When I did the Brum marathon the guy doing the pacing for 3:45 (8:35 mins per mile if run exactly to pace) was running under 8 minutes per mile, I stayed with him for a mile or 2 (I was aiming for under 4 hours) then realised I was struggling, looked at my watch and quickly worked out why.
By all means follow the pacer but I'd suggest a running watch and knowing your target pace is a better idea. I knew 9:09 mins per mile would get me bang on 4 hours, so if I looked at my watch and it read 8 something I knew I was fine.
Did my first park run today. Hazlehead with glupton formerly of this parish before i welded up his car.
Had he upset you?
I'm doing Glasgow half too moonsaballoon, wife's first half, aim is to pace her to sub 2hr, but the it's her first so won't push her. She'll scoosh it anyway!
"Did my first park run today. Hazlehead with glupton formerly of this parish before i welded up his car.
Had he upset you"
Far from it. Sill was rotten inside and out plus up the inner wheel arch. Lots of fabrication and welding. Not many folk would do that for a paying customer never mind as a favour for a mate.
Got out for another 6km tonight hr has decreased significantly for a given pace. Feeling comfortable running now. Calves are much less tight.
Going to enter the monikie winter duatblons I think
31:55 for tonights 10,000m. Blustery and solo, so not ideal conditions, and 20 seconds slower than the same distance I've done on the road, but good to get a time on the board. A tiny bit disappointed if I'm honest as I certainly had a lot left in the tank at the finish, but should be able to go at least a minute quicker in a with some fast guys to pull me round. Another pointer that things should go well in Bournemouth in 2 weeks time 🙂
Cheers, Rich
Good luck nobeer , to you and your mrs . hopefully were getting all the windy weather out the way this week and next week will be perfect conditions .....maybe 🙂
Wasn't feeling it yesterday after nights but did a 10km on/off road and got my pb of 48.18 nowt to most of you lot but I'm pleased:)
Oh I don’t know, that’s pretty good.
I’m still not running, that’s 6weeks and counting..🤒
I've finally decided to take some action and booked a physio appointment to try and solve my Achilles issues. I'm not sure they will solve it but it's worth a go.
Nice running turbo and others. Starting to think about getting fit here but there's no rush... Next goal may be Ribble valley 10k at the end of the year.
Does anyone else suffer from 'restless leg syndrome' in bed (if indeed it is RLC) when trying to sleep? I've recently incorporated some 'harder' sessions into my training in an effort to increase speed but due to work commitments these have to occur in the evenings. Then post session meal, shower, stretch, rest an hour or so reading or tv then bed. As soon as i'm in bed the legs kick in, its like a constant tingle and need to move them or stretch, generally means broken sleep and knackered the next day. Starting to wonder if its worth it tbh, as i'm no racing snake and should just accept 45min 10ks.
Lovely run out on road and back along a frosty, glittering River Allan this morning.
I'm enjoying mix of riding and running at the moment.
Went out for a steady one as my foot is a bit sore from my 10km pb the other day as I'm just starting up in new shoes. Ended up doing a half marathon pb of 1.53.11 so pleased but know I can do better.
I tried a gel at 10 miles and there is a climb about half mile after and I felt much better on that but it made me really thirsty so I'm going to have to try take a bit of fluid out I think. But it's all a learning curve
Not been out on the bike apart from with the little lad in ages, even sold my jones spaceframe as it was hardly getting used. At least it gives me some funds for running stuff haha
First 2h run in a while today, really looking forward to the winter season. Won't all be like today though, stunning in the Dales.
First parkrun at the weekend, 25mins ish. Time to take this seriously now and safely build up the miles per week!
10 miles this weekend of which 3 was Parkrun, it was horrific. Didn’t want to go fast, and really didn’t, but it hurt like hell and my average heart rate was 192bpm, with a high of 201 (never worked out my max but I’m 38 so it can’t be far off max). That explained why it hurt, but it didn’t explain why it was so slow.
First ever win for me this weekend! Little inter club relay in Delamere forest with a few local clubs. Four legs, 2 solos, 2 pairs one of which was a nav leg. Happy to piggyback on the speed of faster club mates but can vaguely handle a compass. Still, a win’s a win. Really nice, friendly event.
For the first time ever I won a trophy! It was for 1st vet40 at the Cairn William hill race. Unusual to have a trophy for that but it was a memorial for a runner who had died from a head injury sustained in the race.
Unfortunately, it was a fairly large wooden sculpture and I had arrived by bike so I couldn't take it away with me. I did manage to take the bottle of wine and jar of honey though. 🙂
Enjoyed a good weekend of running. On Saturday I managed my first top 10 finish at parkrun, finishing in 9th place, admittedly in a field of only 95.......!
Yesterday I ran I the Bristol half. This was my fifth half marathon having only completed my first in February and I finished in 1:49:01 which is my best yet. Really pleased with that.
In awe of the guys here running sub 20 minute 5ks , I’m still aiming for and will be over the moon with a sub 23. Hoping to achieve that goal in the next few weeks.
Good going on the half JGJ. On your parkrun time, its no good comparing to others on here, as all parkrun are different. We have one locally that is dull as ****, but I'll have a go at a sub 20 on it at some point. The ones I enjoy I'd really struggle to sub 21. Even at that, they're not that hilly, there's some tough wee parkrun courses out there!.
We love a bit of parkrun tourism, the wife and I, always try and look about for a local one when we're away for the weekend, great way to start a Saturday.
On your parkrun time, its no good comparing to others on here, as all parkrun are different
Very true, part of the fun in many ways,.
You're also on a bit of a hiding to nothing comparing yourself to other runners. There are always plenty who are faster, and plenty who are slower. If you keep at it you'll get a bit quicker, until you start getting slower...the important thing is to enjoy it!
Not sure I really fancy a trophy for a dead fell-runner (I mean especially one who died in the event), but well done to Spin on winning it!
Only person I ever compete against is myself tbh JGJ, and anyone with a club vest that is within my striking distance come the closing mile! 🤣
Went out to run Clapham Common parkrun with the wee man in the buggy, but arrived to find that it was cancelled due to a 10k happening. Went for a play on the swings and roundabouts and spotted a friend who was running, asked if he wanted some pacing, which he was amenable to! Jumped in part-way through the first of 3 laps after the field had spread out a little and dragged him around to a PB of 38 minutes, which he was delighted with. Some great shots from the photographers out on the course too - Wilf was on top waving duties 🙂
Sunday saw the Southern 6-Stage Road Relays in Crystal Palace, our club was looking for a decent result, and hoping to qualify 2 teams for the Nationals in 2 weeks time. I was on 5th leg, and took over duties with us sat in 6th place. Made up 2 places but then a Southampton runner blasted past me to drop us down to 5th. Fortunately our 6th man made up that place again to bring us home 4th. Since discovering that the guy who dropped me runs for GB and has a 5000m time of 13:51, I don't feel so bad! 2nd fastest time for our club too, so pretty happy.
Taper time now 🙂
Thanks NBITF! I’ve run at 19 different parkrun venues so I very much enjoy parkrun tourism too.
I wouldn’t expect to run sub 23 at Lanhydrock......
But I might at St Albans ( currently 23:09).
Like you I love running different courses and like you my favourites tend to be more undulating or cross country .
I ran at Wotton under Edge on Saturday which took me back 30 years and felt like running a school crosss country .😃
Great photo Turboferret! If only I’d discovered buggy running when my kids were little.😃