contains some nsfw language.
took me a while to work out that the bloke in the red top wasn't a nutter!
Guy who is in the passenger seat is dangerously incompetent.
Guy who is in the passenger seat is dangerously incompetent
Really?
how'd you figure that? Only for assuming the driver could actually drive...
I think he did a good job of saving the situation actually, getting the car onto the grass to go round in a circle.
A quick look at the driver's feet would have identified the problem and allowed it to be fixed.
If someone is telling you that they're braking and the obviously aren't then that is normally the first thing to check.
Knocking the car out of gear and easing the handbrake on would also work.
How can you have your braking foot on the clutch?
How is that even possible?
you would either have to have two feet on the clutch
or be using your left foot for braking.
I'm lost!
[i]Knocking the car out of gear and easing the handbrake on would also work[/i]
given the clutch was down the gear stick was irrelevant. In my car the handbrake lever is to the right of the driver, on Merc's it's ont he floor by the drivers feet.
In hindsight, saying 'check you have your foot on the right pedal' might have helped more than just shouting brake slightly more hysterically, though.
The clutch being down is not irrelevant. What happens when the driver takes their foot off the clutch and it's still in gear? Lots of damage?
A quick look at the driver's feet would have identified the problem
He didn't do that?
I do love stw.
Mildly diverting driver error video requires second by second analysis of instructors reactions.
I've decided to just enjoy it for what it is 🙂
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I expect we coudl discuss what this bloke did wrong until the cows come home, too. (contains nsfw language)
If you're paid to teach people how to drive fast in expensive and powerful cars then you should probably be good at teaching people how to drive fast whilst keeping them relatively safe. He shat the bed.
[i]Mildly diverting driver error video requires second by second analysis of instructors reactions[/i]
Yeah, I thought we were just laughing at the bloke go "BRAKE BRAKE BRAKE"
But it's not really funny anymore.
It's like giving Fenton's owner advice on dog training.
glupton1976: Perhaps it's not a scenario that comes up too often?
Second-guessing the pedals may be obvious to a driving instructor, who is used to dealing with complete novices.
But I would imagine that most of this guy's pupils have mastered the fundamentals of driving a car before they come to a test track.
Guess work has no place in teaching people to drive cars fast.
Jesus H Christ!! Has anyone recommended an IAM course to these two?
Who? glupton and wwaswas?
If you're paid to teach people how to drive fast in expensive and powerful cars then you should probably be good at teaching people how to drive fast whilst keeping them relatively safe. He shat the bed.
I imagine there's a clause in the T&Cs that says people must be able to brake before starting the lessons. And I think it's entirely reasonable to expect someone to be able to brake when you say "BRAKE!BRAKE!BRAKE!BRAKE!BRAKE!BRAKE!". He then thought on his feet and rescued the situation. I see no issues.
Molgrips I expect you to disagree with anything I post regardless of whether it is correct or not. Some might call it trolling.
I disagree that it's trolling.
Trolling is deliberately posting stuff to try and wind people up.
I just disagree with you.
Out of interest what would you have done had you been the instructor?
[i]Out of interest what would you have done had you been the instructor? [/i]
Not posted the video on the internet 😉
I would have said "STOP!"
Stop is different from "BRAKE" because it takes two pedals to stop and you wouldn't be having two feet on the clutch.
Doubt that would have made a difference.
I didnt expect you to think that it would.
You seem to think I have some kind of personal problem with you. I don't, I'm happy to agree with you and respect your opinion, you just seem to talk shite so often 🙂
You two have just sucked all the funniness out of that video.
Bloody Buzz Killingtons the pair of you. 🙁
Reported.
It wasn't that funny. If he'd done a few more laps of the airport getting ever more hysterical, that would have been better 🙂 Or if he'd said what he was clearly thinking - "get out of the car, your lesson is over"
Stop is different from "BRAKE" because it takes two pedals to stop and you wouldn't be having two feet on the clutch.
This guy can't follow the instruction "BRAKE" by pressing the brake pedal with 1 foot. Asking him to do something that involves 2 feet could make for an even more entertaining video 🙂
I would have said "STOP!"
Brilliant. like the guy driving is going to think "aaah stop is different to brake, and I need to stop safely, so I'll use both pedals, Oh, hold on, my foot is on the clutch"
I imagine the guy was trying to teach him left foot braking?
Stopping a car is a reflex action.
[i]Stopping a car is a reflex action. [/i]
Yep, it's right up there with "Hot! Hot! Hot!" in the scale of evolutionary knee jerk reactions.
I'd have opened the passenger door, done an AWSUM stunt roll and left the driver to it.
Stopping a car is a reflex action.
Is it? I'd question that statement quite strongly.
Guy who is in the passenger seat is dangerously incompetent.
The "Driving Gods" arrived on this thread very quickly 🙄
Is there some sort of email alert system or a light that shines up into the sky ?
as there isn't even a clue in the title that Driving Gods would get a chance to pontificate on the thread.
Whatever it is, it's working, keep it up.
Or more correctly stopping a car in an emergency is a reflex action. A bit like tuck and roll when you come off your bike.
[i]A bit like tuck and roll when you come off your bike. [/i]
I seem stuck at flail and crunch.
The driver was already convinced he was braking. Every time the passenger said 'Brake' he just pressed the pedal he was already on harder. It's the same reflex that leads old ladies to end up driving into Tesco's whilst parking. In their heads they're already doing the right thing so they just try and do more of it.
Genius! I had my foot on the clutch.....! 😀
Well, I found it funny.
The guy was saying brake harder. This led to the guy presing the pedal harder. Stop is a totally different instruction. By involving the second foot he'll realise that his "braking" foot is on the wrong pedal.
This one could go viral!
Or more correctly stopping a car in an emergency is a reflex action. A bit like tuck and roll when you come off your bike.
Once the guy was on the grass and in a spin, it was pretty obvious to him he had to stop the car, yet he didn't do it, and that's even with a guy shouting 'BRAKE' at him, he looked at his feet. So I would say stopping a car in an emergency isn't a reflex action.
That made me crack up at work. Pity glupton has to take it too seriously!
A bit like tuck and roll when you come off your bike.
Ah, so it's the sort of "reflex action" that 90% of people don't seem to be able to do then ?
We watched people on the skills area in Meribel Mottaret for a couple of hours one lunchtime.
Almost ever tumble (and there were loads) went down Arms outstretched, head back, and landed on there hands/knees/belly.
Hardly anyone seemed to be able to tuck and roll.
I'm with glupton on this one - the guy in red totally lost it - surely he must be trained to remain calm and convey calmness to the people he's teaching?
The video is about as funny as genocide too.
