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That's right, IOG (and most smart tariffs, OVO was the same) requires either a compatible car or a compatible charger.
As far as I can tell, a smart charger isn't very smart though. It seems to just be one that the supplier can switch on an off. It doesn't seem to know anything about the state of charge of the car (although, presumably it can receive a signal to stop charging when the car reaches its target level) so you have to tell it how much you want to add each evening.
As @convert says, it is in Octopus' interest to sort out communication with the car, otherwise people will just pick a big number, which reduces their ability to load balance.
I will be resisting this smart charging thing until the last possible moment.
I prefer plug it in over night and just get my rate.
My dumb charger has served me well for 7 years.
I prefer plug it in over night and just get my rate.
That's all I do with a smart charger. It mostly benefits the grid, and therefore all of us, but it does benefit users as well because it often lets us charge outside of the off-peak time. It's just not guaranteed. Of course, if you already have a charger that's not smart you have to try and justify the cost of replacing it and I'm not sure I could. But if I were buying, I'd probably get smart if I could afford.
Yeah but over-night ought to be a baseline as off-peak really. So that's enough for me. In fact it's enough for both our cars.
I feel they will shorten that window over time; deliberately to maximise profit at the expense of convenience.
So we will be forced onto a smart charger. (Do these smart tariffs give you cheap electricity across the house?) If not then that's a big slap in the face too. My dishwaser and laundry, and other bits (Breadmaker) is done over night.
Energy tariffs are unnecesarily complex and they really need simplyfing across the board. Standing charges and VAT need a big re-think.
I will be resisting this smart charging thing until the last possible moment.
I prefer plug it in over night and just get my rate.
Is my thoughts. charge overnight at 7p not always guaranteed to be in at the random slots time
Do these smart tariffs give you cheap electricity across the house?
Yes, all usage when the car is charging is 7p. There is also a 6 or 7 hour overnight window where it's 7p. We charge our other non compatible car using a timer in this window and also the house battery every night.
Well yes and no actually 😀 What @nixie says is true for Octopus, but not for all providers. OVO, for example (before they put the price up) let me charge my car (essentially at any time) for 7p/kwh but only the car. It basically calculated how much charge had gone through the smart charger each month and gave you a credit off the next month's bill to make it equivalent to paying 7p/kwh for those electrons (but only those).
Octopus gives the low rate (currently 7p/kwh) for the whole house at certain times (a guaranteed window overnight plus some other times at their discretion). They also have the (non intelligent) Octopus Go tariff that gives you 8p/kwh for the whole house but only for that overnight window (no surprise bonus periods).
But even that isn't a fair comparison as OVO used to charge me ~26p/kwh during the day while Octopus charge me ~29p for the intelligent tariff (not sure what it is for the dumb one). As @rone says, unnecessarily complicated and quite possibly designed to be so.
Just in case anybody is interested in the geeky details, I had my second charging session with IOG last night.
Quick recap: I am eligible for the IOG tariff because I have what they consider to be a smart charger but Octopus isn't talking to the car directly (just the charger). So I have to tell it what percentage I want to add each time I plug it in. For my first attempt I'd asked it to add 15% but it only actually added 11%
Last night I was at 59% so adding 21% would get me back to 80%, but since it had only given me 11% when I asked for 15% I asked it to add 28% (roughly 21x15/11). I also raised the limit in the car to 90% to stop it terminating the session if I hit 80%. This morning it was at 82%. So the 28% I'd asked for was actually 23%.
Is anybody else using IOG with a smart charger (but not a compatible car) and finding that the percentage it adds isn't what they asked for?
Is anybody else using IOG with a smart charger (but not a compatible car) and finding that the percentage it adds isn't what they asked for?
I can't help with your question (no EV as yet) but your findings are interesting.
So [open question] do Octopus never know what's in the car unless it's compatible and thus rely on the user setting the amount to charge (and the car stopping accepting charge at the level you set .... i.e. 80%).
The car I'm hoping to get one day is compatible so hopefully home charging should be a plug in and walk away affair.
Is anybody else using IOG with a smart charger (but not a compatible car) and finding that the percentage it adds isn't what they asked for?
Smart charger talking to IOG. Car is compatible but not linked to IOG. I'm getting the correct percentage asked for every time, although usually the car stops at 80% before IOG completes (and I get an error notification from IOG).
So [open question] do Octopus never know what's in the car unless it's compatible and thus rely on the user setting the amount to charge (and the car stopping accepting charge at the level you set .... i.e. 80%).
Correct. The charger acts as a switch to turn on the power, it doesn't read the charge state of the car battery. Once the car says its full, then the charging stops (unless you've asked for less percentage charge).
Smart charger talking to IOG. Car is compatible but not linked to IOG. I'm getting the correct percentage asked for every time,
Interesting. Thanks.
I'm beginning to think that this intelligent tariff is not so intelligent after all 😀
I've been assuming that, at the very least, Octopus could monitor how much charge was being delivered by my supposedly smart charger and make sure it matched what I'd ask for. But now I'm thinking that what it might be doing is just calculating how long it should take to deliver the requested amount of charge and then switching the charger on for this long.
There is a known issue with Kia (and Hyundai) cars where the ICCU can fail. It doesn't seem to affect many cars, but it is a known issue and one recommended "solution" is to limit the AC power (which you can do through the app for the car) as that apparently reduces the risk of failure. It could just be an urban myth, but as a precautionary measure I limit my AC power to 90%. This means that while my charger can theoretically deliver 7.4 kw it actually maxes out at around 6.6 kw. If Octopus assume that the charger is delivering 7.4 kw and don't check what it actually delivers during a charging session then that could explain why I need to ask for more than I actually need.
I did notice that this morning (although not yesterday when it also failed to deliver the requested amount) there was a cryptic error message in the app which referred to the power not being what was expected and something about making adjustments in future. So, it will be interesting (for me at least) to see what it does tonight. Maybe over time it will learn about my setup and eventually be able to deliver what I ask for.
I've been assuming that, at the very least, Octopus could monitor how much charge was being delivered by my supposedly smart charger and make sure it matched what I'd ask for. But now I'm thinking that what it might be doing is just calculating how long it should take to deliver the requested amount of charge and then switching the charger on for this long.
I'm beginning to think it's either something to do with EVs in general in the cold or Kias in the cold. Mine (Niro) did this last night - set to limit charge to 80% and it (the car) stopped accepting charge even though the iog plan was to add more than that. By the morning it was showing as 79%. I wonder if in the cold (it was about -3 Deg C last night here) that once the battery has stopped being charged and cooled down a bit (because its bloody cold) the total charge 'settles down' to a number a bit less than the 80% it thought it had when it stopped taking charge.
I think it's far more likely to be the car than the charger's programmed charge plan. Too consistently a little bit short and by about the same amount for that.
I'm beginning to think that this intelligent tariff is not so intelligent after all
I suspect the intelligent bit really just benefits Octopus as it 'gets rid' of surplus outside the normal cheap rate window.
Obvs you do benefit from some extra cheap charging but it's only when it suits octopus.
But now I'm thinking that what it might be doing is just calculating how long it should take to deliver the requested amount of charge and then switching the charger on for this long.
It may also use data from your smart meter to help figure this out
but it's only when it suits octopus.
I'm really not understanding this level of suspicion. Going from OG to iOG you go from 5 to 6 guaranteed hours of cheap (for the car and your house) PLUS any extra hours they fancy using if you happen to be plugged in. If you aren't plugged in - no biggie, you'll just get the 6 normal hours if you need that much. I can't see the downside as a consumer. If you want to top a car from basically empty to full in one evening and one night of cheap leccy you are far more likely to achieve it on IOG than OG. The fact that they can balance the grid and take advantage of the most excess/cheapest renewable energy by deciding when in that window (or elsewhere too) to add your requested juice is surely an advantage to all of us in the long term.
I suspect the intelligent bit really just benefits Octopus
Well, it helps Octopus do the thing that we all need them to do. Balancing the grid with smart technology is a crucial part of sustainable and renewable energy policy. Just because it's being done by a private company in this case doesn't mean that it's naked profiteering. There are some situations that are win/win, and this is one of them.
I can't see the downside as a consumer.
There isn't one unless you don't have a compatible car or charger and you have to shell out for a new one. In which case it's fair given the cost of smart chargers. That said Ohmes can be had pretty cheaply used.
I'm beginning to think it's either something to do with EVs in general in the cold
It could be, I think that if you charge a battery to a certain percentage and then chill it, the voltage drops and whilst the car should know the battery temp and take it into account, it might not be super accurate.
I've been assuming that, at the very least, Octopus could monitor how much charge was being delivered by my supposedly smart charger and make sure it matched what I'd ask for. But now I'm thinking that what it might be doing is just calculating how long it should take to deliver the requested amount of charge and then switching the charger on for this long.
It creates a schedule in half-hourly slots throughout the time between when you plug it in and when you said you want the car. So it'll be like 0200-0230 @3.4kW 0330-0400 @1.6kW and so on. It does that when you plug in, based on the weather forecast, and you can see it in the app. There's still some inaccuracy built in, it doesn't know how warm your actual car is going to be 8hrs in the future for example. I don't think it changes the schedule after it's been calculated, this would defeat the object of being able to plan the load distribution.
I don't think it changes the schedule after it's been calculated, this would defeat the object of being able to plan the load distribution.
It does change it, sometimes multiple times. Even says in the app it may change.
I'm really not understanding this level of suspicion.
I'm not suspicious at all... I have a reasonable understanding of how it works in that they're not doing it for the consumer, they're doing it to help try and balance the grid.
I also know the consumer can benefit which is why I said:
"Obvs you do benefit from some extra cheap charging but it's only when it suits octopus." [And the wind gods]
(I'm on agile and so I am very much used to looking at the wholesale market prices for the next days electricity)
What I was trying to say was that the intelligent part is primarily for the benefit of the grid and that includes octopus even though they are not "the grid") the consumers get a benefit as a byproduct of that.
Am I right in saying that on days when it's not sunny or particularly windy then there are no extra charging slots outside the normal overnight window?
Am I right in saying that on days when it's not sunny or particularly windy then there are no extra charging slots outside the normal overnight window?
No that's not true. On IOG the deal is that your car is charged to the level you set by the time you set. So if you need more time to charge than the 6hr window you will get it, and those slots will be at 7p. I saw exactly this when I first used IOG with a 3 pin so sometimes it was basically taking every minute between plugging in and my "ready time".
I also know the consumer can benefit which is why I said:
"Obvs you do benefit from some extra cheap charging but it's only when it suits octopus'
....which was incorrect.
You get a 20% increase in lower rate standard hours (from 5 to 6) regardless of 'when it suits octopus' and you get it at a 17% price reduction. Yes, they may charge your car in extra hours 'when it suits them' in addition to that. But that doesn't get around the fact that you get 6 not 5 hours at 7p not 8.5p.
You get a 20% increase in lower rate standard hours (from 5 to 6) regardless of 'when it suits octopus' and you get it at a 17% price reduction.
Yes.... I know, which was why I originally said:
surplus outside the normal cheap rate window.
😐
Maybe read the post?
Anyway thanks for confirming what I said - what I didn't know though was that the extra charging slots were at a 17% discount [off SVR?] - for some reason I thought it was at the overnight rate. Thanks for clearing that bit up.
So if you need more time to charge than the 6hr window you will get it, and those slots will be at 7p. I saw exactly this when I first used IOG with a 3 pin so sometimes it was basically taking every minute between plugging in and my "ready time".
Wow! Seems like if you don't do that many miles a day [and you have a compatible car] then a charger isn't 100% required.
Fairly sure that's not what convert said. It's a 17% reduction (8.5 Vs 7p) in the fixed overnight window that is 20% longer.
From my understanding as long as you allow octopus to control the times any time the car charges the whole house gets the 7p rate, even in the middle of the day segment .If you bump charge or charge something not smart then you pay whatever the current rate is (so day if day etc).
Maybe read the post?
Fairly sure that's not what convert said
Yes, there is some irony of man suggesting I read posts, still struggling with basic comprehension 😁
Am I right in saying that on days when it's not sunny or particularly windy then there are no extra charging slots outside the normal overnight window?
In theory there might be fewer slots, but it seems to me that there are plenty of slots to spare currently (haha). It always seems to be able to charge how I want (on cheap rate) unless I take the piss and demand a full charge in a few hours. I have plugged in in the morning and set a departure time for the afternoon before, and it still gave me charging slots and cheap rate (although I don't recall how windy it is). In fact, there was a long running thread on their forums where people were exploiting this as a loophole by plugging the car in during the day specifically to save money when they wanted to do baking or welding or whatever. Octopus can't stop you doing this directly but there is a fair usage clause in the contract IIRC which means they can ban you for taking the piss.
Seems like if you don't do that many miles a day [and you have a compatible car] then a charger isn't 100% required.
Absolutely, and it's a great way to save a grand. The issue might be if you do do a long trip one day and can't fully recharge overnight for another the following day. But that's niche - and if you're like me and have a handy rapid charger down the road you might be better off spending a few quid on a rapid top-up rather than splashing out on a charger.
Then again, if you have a compatible car you only need a dumb charger or even just a commando socket, and these are cheap.
On IOG the deal is that your car is charged to the level you set by the time you set. So if you need more time to charge than the 6hr window you will get it, and those slots will be at 7p.
Is that right?
In my case Octopus doesn't know the state of charge of the car (it just talks to the charger) so I have to tell it how much I want to add when I plug it in.
So, if the above is right, I could just set that to 100%. In which case, Octopus would think it needed to deliver ~80kwh when I plugged it in.
So, let's say I plug it in at 6pm. Octopus would then have to give my whole house 7p/kwh for the whole evening (peak time) to have any chance of delivering the requested amount by 7am (the time I have set in the app).
Of course, most nights the car will terminate the charging long before 7am, but it seems strange that this is possible.
Yes, there is some irony of man suggesting I read posts, still struggling with basic comprehension
I'm sorry if a learning disability is creating a problem, but I was referring to my original post where I mentioned that IOG gave you a cheap overnight rate window and extra cheap rate slots but these were at the discretion and timing of Octopus - you seem to have agreed with those.
You then went on to state
You get a 20% increase in lower rate standard hours (from 5 to 6) regardless of 'when it suits octopus' and you get it at a 17% price reduction.
But you don't say what the reduction is from... is it the overnight Octopus rate (which I've not mentioned at all)?
Anyway thanks for the info - I'm sure it's probably a lot simpler than it can seem at face value!
My attempt at trying to work out how to get IOG to deliver the amount of charge I want took a bit of a backward step last night.
On Monday I asked for 15% (12 kwh) and it delivered 11% (11.54 kwh)
On Tuesday I asked for 28% (22.4 kwh) and it delivered 23% (21.25 kwh)
On Wednesday I asked for 20% (16 kwh) and it delivered 27% (26.27 kwh)
The number in brackets on the left is roughly what I think I asked for each night (assuming an ~80 kwh battery). The number in brackets on the right is what the Octopus app tells me was delivered. The percentage on the left is what I enter into the Octopus app (which requires a percentage to add and a time for it to be ready - 7am). The percentage on the right is the increase in the battery percentage reported by the car.
If anybody can make sense of those numbers do let me know 😀
The charging isn't 100% efficient, so the car will always report less charge than the charger fed it, and on that basis Monday and Tuesday look reasonable. I don't know why it gave you more than you asked it for on Wednesday.
But you don't say what the reduction is from... is it the overnight Octopus rate (which I've not mentioned at all)?
The reduction is to the 'EV':rate - whenever that applies - so all 6 hours from 2330 to 0530 and also to any periods in the other 18 hours they decide to charge your car. 1.5p a unit isn't a lot but a bit of back of fag packet maths says that for my EV charging for the 10k miles I drive from home charging a year plus the overnight use of the rest of the house that works out at a £50 saving. So not life changing in the big scheme of things....
@roverpig - we experienced the same overcharging issue when doing smart charging via our Ohme charger and the Ohme app. I mentioned this above in a different context, but was a bit misleading I think (see below). I think the issue is a poor connection between our charger and the internet, which happens via some mobile network or other, to Ohme's servers and our account thereon, which is controlled via the Ohme app. Well I think that is how it works.
If the connection to the charger breaks, the command to move into the next programmed phase of charging isn't implemented and it seems to just carry on. What I didn't clarify above was that this has been a problem even since we lost car connectivity and disengaged the car from the Ohme app. Ohme still knows what the car is, and so how much charge amounts to 10% etc, but doesn't know the state of the car's charge. It ought to be simple enough for it to add 30% or whatever, but about one charge in four it misses the target by a mile, and always over does it a bit. So we have given up smart charging and tell Ohme to do "max charge", then control the charging time via the car. This is more precise, though requiring a bit of mental arithmetic.
I imagine doing this via Octopus would involve an even more tenuous chain of communication - do you give Octopus the login details for your car charger account so it can turn it on and off (we decided not to use IOG because it didn't really fit our car/solar/battery usage pattern)?
The charging isn't 100% efficient, so the car will always report less charge than the charger fed it, and on that basis Monday and Tuesday look reasonable. I don't know why it gave you more than you asked it for on Wednesday.
Yes, the amounts that Octopus says it delivered aren't that far off what I asked for on Monday and Tuesday. Even closer if it uses the 78 kwh useable capacity of the battery for its calculations. The way the car is translating that delivered charge into a percentage change for the battery seems to be a bit variable. If we assume that 78 kwh capacity:
Monday, charger delivered 11.54 kwh = 14.8% but car reported an 11% change in percentage = 8.58 kwh. So car received 74% of the charge that was delivered.
Tuesday, charger delivered 21.25 kwh = 27.2% but car reported 23% change in percentage = 17.94 kwh. So car received 84% of the charge delivered.
So, maybe, charging losses aren't constant and depend on state of charge or temperature or something.
Wednesday is still a mystery though.
we experienced the same overcharging issue when doing smart charging via our Ohme charger and the Ohme app
That's really interesting. Thanks. My charger connects by WiFi and I'm pretty sure it didn't lose connection to the house WiFi as I have to reboot the charger whenever that happens. I don't know how the communication between Octopus and the (Indra) charger works though. Does it talk directly to the charger or does it talk to Indra's servers which then talk to the charger? I don't know, but either way I guess there could have been a glitch in the communication somewhere.
This has made me realise that I don't really know how my charger (or the connection to Octopus) works. I never explicitly set up an account with Indra or shared those details with Octopus, but so much account sharing happens just by granting permissions in apps these days.
The installer set up the communication between the Indra charger and my house WiFi. I have no idea how I would go about changing that if I ever changed the house WiFi, which is a bot of a worry. I just downloaded the Indra app, scanned a QR code on the charger and it worked. Similarly, with Octopus I just plugged the car into the charger, told Octopus it was ready and it "magically" added the charger as a device in the Octopus app.
Yes, the amounts that Octopus says it delivered aren't that far off what I asked for on Monday and Tuesday. Even closer if it uses the 78 kwh useable capacity of the battery for its calculations. The way the car is translating that delivered charge into a percentage change for the battery seems to be a bit variable. If we assume that 78 kwh capacity:
Monday, charger delivered 11.54 kwh = 14.8% but car reported an 11% change in percentage = 8.58 kwh. So car received 74% of the charge that was delivered.
Tuesday, charger delivered 21.25 kwh = 27.2% but car reported 23% change in percentage = 17.94 kwh. So car received 84% of the charge delivered.
So, maybe, charging losses aren't constant and depend on state of charge or temperature or something.
Wednesday is still a mystery though.
I'd be checking that assumption. If the effective capacity is lower then the car reported percentages will be higher values as kwh ie nearer what the charger reported it delivered.
Not particularly impressed with my Octopus experience so far
Ordered the Hypervolt charger from them last week as my car is coming mid December.
During the order process it asked for days where installation would be a problem and I gave them a few dates where I definitely wasn't available. I expected they'd come back with a definite date but instead I have to click on a link to speculatively see if there are any dates available and if there aren't I need to try again the next day.
I've tried 3 days in a row and no appointments are available. It would be easier to get a GP appointment!
I went with octopus as I'm already with them for gas and electricity and thought it would be relatively seamless and hassle free. Now I'm having to gamble on a slot opening up at some undetermined point and I'm no doubt competing against every other customer nearby that's trying to do the same.
If I knew it would be a hassle I'd just have reached out to someone local directly.
If I knew it would be a hassle I'd just have reached out to someone local directly.
Not necessarily as easy as you'd think. Depends where you obviously. But a lot of local electricians who you'd think would want the work seem to have remained doubtful and not got the tickets. I got a quote from a local place that specialises in solar, batteries and EV chargers. £600 more than octopus like for like. We've had two done (on neighbouring reasons - boring explanation I won't go into) and one was by Octopus and the other by ChargedEV. Octopus was by far the smoothest of the two experiences. EVcharged took the job and then had a bear mutiny from installers trying to get someone to come to the Highlands to for a few days to fit the dozen or so orders they had taken.
I had grants for both chargers so had to go from government approved lists of installers. Apart from the place mentioned above, without exception every single other one of the local providers failed to get back to messages, voicemail and emails. It was like pulling teeth trying to get someone to take my money.
If it’s any consolation I got mine installed through OVO who basically contract it out to ChargedEV. Took over 6 months from initial enquiry to getting it installed. Had a date fixed and then they cancelled at the last minute as the installer had apparently quit with no notice (guess they are in demand). Turned out to be a blessing in disguise as OVO then dropped support for the (Ohme) charger they were going to install with pretty much no notice. So at least I got a chance to switch to one they did install. So, yes, it’s a nightmare 😀
By the way I’ve pretty much given up trying to understand how Octopus decide how much charge to put in my car. Sometimes it gives a bit less than I ask for, sometimes a bit more and sometimes a lot more. The only reliable approach seems to be to set the limit in the car, ask octopus for a bit more than you need and let the car stop the charge when it reaches the level you want. Obviously that makes it a bit harder for octopus to plan as they always think you want a bit more than you do but it seems to be the only way if they can’t talk to the car directly.
Still not got my Octopus install arranged. Utterly useless process. I need to keep refreshing this link they've sent me in the vain hope that some appointment becomes available at some undetermined point in the future. My car is coming next week.
Question for those that got a local electrician to install, do you have a ball park install cost figure? Mine will be an easy installation. Consumer unit is in the hall cupboard, cable from there, out through wall into internal garage, along internal garage wall and out through the front of the house. Cable run of about 8 meters. New build house with up to date consumer unit, smart meter etc. Neighbours installs have all be fine (supplied via the dealer they got their cars from, which I could've/ should've done, but the cost to do that was £500 more than Octopus...)
I got a charger installed by a local EV charger outfit last year. Totally professional, and as it was their business customer service was excellent. I had given up on Octopus even responding to email. Mine was fitted within a week, and Octopus got back to me 2 weeks after that.
Cost for the charger and install was just shy of a grand, and as I run the business from home I was able to get aa 300£ grant to cover some of the cost (might not apply, but worth asking ) You might have to pay a bit more for the longer cable run.
Suspect that Octopus is so popular their customer service can't keep up with demand
Still not got my Octopus install arranged. Utterly useless process. I need to keep refreshing this link they've sent me in the vain hope that some appointment becomes available at some undetermined point in the future. My car is coming next week.
Question for those that got a local electrician to install, do you have a ball park install cost figure? Mine will be an easy installation. Consumer unit is in the hall cupboard, cable from there, out through wall into internal garage, along internal garage wall and out through the front of the house. Cable run of about 8 meters. New build house with up to date consumer unit, smart meter etc. Neighbours installs have all be fine (supplied via the dealer they got their cars from, which I could've/ should've done, but the cost to do that was £500 more than Octopus...)
Sounds like 1/2 days work plus materials. Shouldn't be more than about £250 for the labour element I would have thought.
The only quirk with our original install was the need for an earthing spike in the garden.
I'm looking to swap my 5 year old rolec charger for a new Ohme unit, and my local sparkie has said he can do it no problem.
Anyone using a Zappi charger and Agile Octopus? I set the schedule to coincide with the cheapest 1/2 hour slots under Eco+ and it starts on time but then carries on charging after the schedule is supposed to finish. Really annoying as the prices really ramp up about 7am. I've raised a ticket with myenergi but maybe someone on here has an answer.
Anyone using a Zappi charger and Agile Octopus?
Zappi and Octopus Intelligent Go (or what ever). I think you have to work out where on the Octopus app and attach your car as a device, and then the app works out timing for the charge rather than the Zappi. You might need to allow permission for OIG to talk to your car.
Thanks but I’m on agile not OIG. Hoping to get Home Assistant to do this rather than the app but haven’t had time to set that up yet so using the myenergi app in the meantime.
Apologies if this has been covered already, but is anyone here on Ovo?
We have our car and new to the whole charge from home thing. At the moment I have a 13A 3 pin plug charger (granny charger?) which is 10A 2.4kW
This actually seems to be okay for us as we don't use the car a huge amount so when it needs charged I plug it in overnight and the next day it's good to go. From what I can figure it seems to cost about 7 quid to charge it up (52KW battery)
I'm awaiting a quote from Ovo to install a home charger but I now wonder if it's worth it? Seems likely to cost around £1200 to install. If it's currently around 7 quid maybe twice a week then I don't know if it's worth bothering with.
I'll give them a call as I also wonder if there is a specific rate I can switch to for EV charging that may save me a few pence per kWh when overnight charging.
Sorry if I'm being rather daft, I really haven't looked into it at all yet... But any advice very much appreciated!
Cheers!