[Closed] the Budget and Jaffa Cakes

dunno, but sports nutrition drinks now subject to VAT

[b]FFS![/b]

P-L should encourage people to make their own. Its so simple.

sports nutrition drinks subject to VAT, but tax relief for the video games production sector. Genius. A future of pasty-white fatties lies ahead.

[quote=Papa_Lazarou said]dunno, but sports nutrition drinks now subject to VAT
FFS!

Yeah, all those poor hard working families who depend upon cheap SIS Go will be shafted.

They are biscuits ...

[i]Yeah, all those poor hard working families who depend upon cheap SIS Go will be shafted. [/i]

christ, can you imagine the smell if they really did depend upon SIS products? Working class & REGO = environmental disaster zone.

My grandad helped design the jaffa cake, so I'll give him the final word:

"Of course it's a bloody biscuit."

Just in case that's insufficient though I'll also turn to his assistant Johnny Richardson (father of actor Ian Richardson) who said

"Of course it's a bloody biscuit"

when i was a lot younger i had a saturday job in an art shop and Linseed Oil was zero rated - an excellent intro to the devil is in the detail

Is a sports drink a [url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/8883574/Lucozade-is-a-drink-not-a-functional-food-court-rules.html ]beverage[/url]?

Your grandad the biscuit designer had an assistant who was the father of a famous actor ?

You can't make stuff like that up.

Your Granddad designed a biscuit but turned out he designed cake?

Did he move to Rover after that?

Stale biscuits go soft. Stale cake goes hard.

Stale Jaffa Cakes go hard.

Cake.

I didn't even know that Rover made cakes.

You learn something new everyday.

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Stale biscuits go soft. Stale cake goes hard.

Stale Jaffa Cakes go hard.

Cake.

True that. That was actually the official judgment of the court case between HMRC and United Bisciuts. HMRC had to return a rather large sum of tax that UB had been paying on Jaffa Caked for years

HMRC had to return a rather large sum of tax that UB had been paying on Jaffa Caked for years

All because the Jaffa Cakes went hard ? 😯

I blame the biscuit designer.

And his cunning tax-avoidance scheme.

HMRC's defence that "the cake is a lie" wasn't sufficient, sadly.

They should have done a catchy song Cougar.

Speaking of which,

I found three boxes of Jaffa Cakes in our larder and ate them all before the chancellor had sat down.

You'll have to get up early to get one over on me Osborne.

Drac - Moderator

Your Granddad designed a biscuit but turned out he designed cake?

His team designed the orangey bit 8)

(I mention Johnny Richardson only because Ian Richardson was known to take all the credit for his dad, the bounder)

Must have been a pretty good budget for "People Pleasing" then ?

If all people can find to moan about are Jaffa Cales and Sports Drinks 😉

[i]Stale biscuits go soft. Stale cake goes hard.

Stale Jaffa Cakes go hard.

Cake. [/i]

Your definition.

Mine:
If you dunk it in your tea, it's a biscuit.
Jaffa Cakes get dunked.
Biscuit.

Mine:
If you dunk it in your tea, it's a biscuit.
Jaffa Cakes get dunked.
Biscuit.

I quite like dunking my bacon sandwich in my tea, that certainly doesn't make it a biscuit though!

Jaffa Cakes get dunked

OMG Freak!

🙂

[i]I quite like dunking my bacon sandwich in my tea, that certainly doesn't make it a biscuit though! [/i]

ffs. I sometimes dip my scrotum in my wife's tea, that doesn't make it a biscuit either. This is about cakes and biscuits, not bacon and sacs.

Lets settle this...

Front page..
Poll...
Now!

[i]OMG Freak![/i]

You've never lived, Mark 😉

Everyone dunks jaffa cakes, don't they ?

Is it just a tea fetish or can you participate with coffee? I ask because my hatred of tea is part of my being.

For science!

[i]Is it just a tea fetish or can you participate with coffee?[/i]

coffee is probably fine. It's the meltage you need, not the particular flavour.

wow, as usual people miss the point. I have no problem with the classification of Jafa Cakes as a cake (just the same as I would assume a "Cadbury's mini roll" is classified as a cake rather than a chocolate biscuit). The court has decided it IS a cake, so its not really a "loop hole" waiting to be closed. The question is surely why are cakes not subject to VAT - rather than are Jaffa Cakes really cakes?

I have no problem with applying VAT to "sports drinks" either. In fact I couldn't understand why there were so many 'unhealthy' looking sports drinks until the budget announcement explained that a sports drink had no VAT but a general bottled drink did.

I was similarly amazed that rotiseried chicken was not currently classified as hot food takeaway and thus zero rated. Likewise with an anomaly that meant certain food courts could not charge VAT on products which were effectively eaten on the premises.

All seems perfectly reasonable - although its clearly not going to plug the deficit it will at least stop some clever accountants and large businesses from dodging VAT.

The margin on "sports drinks" will be obscene. They are priced based on what people will pay, not what they cost to make.

Therefore, in theory, the price to the consumer should not go up due to the VAT. If your regular place of purchase puts prices up, shop around, they are trying to shaft you.

Oh and this is a sports drink? FFS

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Hang on...how much design has to go into the orange jelly bit of a jaffa CAKE anyway. Surely its well...orange jelly?

Oh you fool.. It's not jelly... It's smashingorangeybit!

How many people drinking lucosade do you actualy see doing any sport?

Mostly fatties on threadmills in the gym:

'but i need to stay hydrated' NYOMNYOMNYOM 'Tasty sugar'

Drink water fatties.

Tell you what, you lot are a bunch of proper wierdos, based on that front page poll. I bet you butter your Soreen as well. And put milk in your coffee. And have webbed feet. Eeeeeeeeeeew.

Just read all 50 pages of the consultation document from the HMRC - for work, not fun.

Jaffa cakes appear to be safe.

Haircuts and food served above ambient temperature (that's pasties & savouries from the local baker) could get taxed from 1st October. Still consulting though and it looks like we're going to make a representation, Greggs are going to fight it too.

Edit - oh yeah, nutritional drinks, they were VAT free due to their 'food' content but they want to ditch that too, only slimming drinks will continue to be VAT free.

I bet you butter your [s]Soreen[/s] [u][i]malt loaf[/i][/u] as well.

You eat Soreen's without butter, weirdo!

Anyways Lidl's Sondey Jaffa cakes are the way ahead!
(and loads cheaper to begin with)

As for dipping in tea, chocolate fingers or kitkat finger used a straw are the way ahead.

Zippy - you saying that reminded me of Tam Tams from Oz.

well quick search turned up
http://nookandpantry.blogspot.co.uk/2009/03/tim-tam-slam.html

man they look like oversized Penguin's (bicuits).. could be worth trying that technic out....

GregMay - Member
Hang on...how much design has to go into the orange jelly bit of a jaffa CAKE anyway. Surely its well...orange jelly?

The simplicity of the design is it's beauty. The Jaffa Cake design satisfies so many in different ways, the way the chocolate is thicker at the edge of the orangey bit satisfies the pickers, the non orangey bit border is great for the nibblers and the round shape with no corners saves the greedy pigs who shove them in whole from injury. Add to that the high air content so you only actually get 12 in the box and the manufacturer is happy too.

A classic design.

[i]You eat Soreen's without butter, weirdo![/i]
no butter, no plate, no knife. Gnaw it off the loaf AS GOD INTENDED

The real crime here is that cake could be taxed, anyone prepared to march on Whitehall with me?