[Closed] That Stephen Gately thread...

Here here.

michael jackson was dissapointed in heaven, he thought god said theres one coming up from the boys home

+1 for MF

I think it was mainly puerile malice-free schoolboy humour rather than "narrow minded bigotry".

Aren't childish jokes about famous dead people something of a British tradition?

Homophobia's OK if somebody's died then is it?

WGAF

I think someone was a boyzone fan 🙄

Aren't childish jokes about famous dead people something of a British tradition?

Well, I hope somebody makes jokes about me when I snuff it!

When does a person stop being public property. At what point? Imagine his Uncle, Brother or other family member reads stuff like this? What has he done wrong exactly? Hes not in the over-familiar school of Jade Goodie.

Another thing, it is borderline homophobia. I dont agree with it.

TBF I don't mind the jokes and I usually join in with that kind of humour when someone in the public eye karks it. It just seemed that on that thread there was more hatred and also assumptions that he must have died in some auto-erotic death or something purely because he was gay.

I'm not normally one to be bothered about something like this, but the comments on the thread itself at times did smack of "ooh, I wonder if I can be the first to get a sardonic comment on STW, teehee, how funny am I? I look cool cos I'm mocking something that isn't regarded as cool"

And it was all just a bit sad to read really.

I'm not normally one to be bothered about something like this

I agree - there was something particularly tasteless and unpleasant about many of the comments in that thread imo.

Where is the other thread. Sounds like a laugh 🙂

I tend to read and chuckle at the jokes then think about how sad it is that such a thing has happened to a nice person. He wasnt in the same league as Jacko and Jade in terms of getting whats coming.

Maybe these type of conversations, as well as being funny also bring about private thought which is a bit more tastefull. I personally would say just lighten up and have a laugh about it.

I bet you lot write in to Points of View complaining about swearing before the watershed and pish like that.

Yours truly

Disgruntled from Chipping Norton

Nothing against the fella as he seemed like a decent and harmless enough chap and 33 is no age to pop your clogs.

But why did his death justify a thread in the first place? He was a member of a pretty average pop group and although his death is mildly news worthy, peoples' loved ones all around the world die every day.

RIP SG, but dying ain't nothing new.

But why did his death justify a thread in the first place?

Well that's the thing - it seems it was posted purely to take the piss.

Well that's the thing - it seems it was posted purely to take the piss.

I bet you lot write in to Points of View complaining about swearing before the watershed and pish like that.

Yours truly

Disgruntled from Chipping Norton

Dunno. I received a STW warning for being abused by French Juan. There are some wierd thinking/people here.

i went to school with his partner and was in the same year as his partners brother whom i'd consider a friend. obviousley i won't be pointing them in the direction of stw in a hurry.

When does a person stop being public property. At what point?

When a person of little talent gets to live a life of fame and luxury from milking tabloid-style hype, then the answer is "never". If he didn't want his life - and death - to be public property, he should have hopped off his stool and gone back to the farm.

Okay clearly some were upset about the other thread, which to my mind was fairly harmless.

So as one who made a passing reference to young Mr Gately's sexuality on that thread, I'd like to apologise for any offence I caused.

I did ask myself what is the point of starting a thread purely to mock the person who has died. I have no feelings towards Stephen Gately good or bad, but as he was famous and relatively young I am intrigued by his death and do judge it newsworthy.

He is no more or less important to me than any other random person who dies but as Mrs M said it reminds you of your own mortality.

Shame on those that started that thread and those that made fools of themselves by posting stupid comments. I hope they are ashamed.

But why did his death justify a thread in the first place?

Probably for the same reason that it's the news, ie, he was quite famous.

.......but that's only a guess.

I don't understand why folk are getting upset with the posts

It's Only Words!

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I think someone was a boyzone fan

No mate, just disappointed in this site tbh.

And it's odd how anyone who's saying the homophobic crap was out of order is almost apologetic that they're defending somebody who was in a naff boy band.

Why did it justify a thread? FFS, since when did threads on here have to be justified?

Shame on those that started that thread and those that made fools of themselves by posting stupid comments. I hope they are ashamed.

LOL

You aren't serious with that sort of comment are you? Really? Bloody hell? It's like listening to your outraged septagenarian aunty.

Irrelevant thread in the first place full of irreverant comments.

The STW sanctimonious and histrionic crowd doing their best to make more of something than it's worth bothering with. IMO if MF hadn't bothered voicing his "outrage" then that would have been best. But like someone said, some folks liked righting in to PoV too. Life a get, rearrange into a well known phrase 😉

Give over and get on with something worth spending the time and energy on.

And why do people bother posting "lots of people die" sort of things?

It's not like there was an outpouring of embarrassingly inappropriate grief over Stephen Gately. Quite the opposite in fact.

Wonder if we'd have read the same childish comments if Stephen Fry had kicked the bucket? Somehow I doubt it.

Aren't childish jokes about famous dead people something of a British tradition?

They are but look at this thread and reflect. I doubt many of us would laugh on the day of their death on being told a joke about their passing. In very bad taste

druidh - Member

BoardinBob - Member

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Because we'd get banned if we posted up the pictures we have of your mum

Poor taste man. Als mum died a couple of weeks ago.

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theboatman - Member
It would be poor taste if bb had known, sounds more like an unfortunate comment. Deepest sympathy to al, I've been there and it's really bad, but seems a bit harsh to pile the guilt on bb.

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cynic-al - Member
My mum's still about but getting ever shakier - I do find mum jokes pretty offensive though, generally the last resort of the low IQ types. Have a go at my dad if you must - he carked it when I was 2, and I've yet to laugh at that.

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Boarding Bob has not apologised for that so I hope he can post up when someone close to him dies and we can share his grief by insensitively taking the pi55 out of his loss. They will only be words apparently 🙄

Why do we do this as with Jade. Yes the loss has not affected me greatly but what kind of person would not just show respect to anyone who has just died (especially when so young)and those that are grieving their loss?

Irrelevant thread in the first place full of irreverant comments.

How can a thread on a chat forum covering a news item be described as "irrelevant" ?

What do you consider to be a "relevant thread" on a chat forum ?

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Have you got something against your aunty btw Cheeky Monkey ?

And just out of interest ......... did your aunty ever call you a 'cheeky monkey' ? I think mine did.

LOL

You aren't serious with that sort of comment are you? Really? Bloody hell? It's like listening to your outraged septagenarian aunty.

Irrelevant thread in the first place full of irreverant comments.

I thought mine was quit appertaining, actually. Missed the rest.Sounds a bit puerile. Probably.

Boarding Bob has not apologised for that so I hope he can post up when someone close to him dies and we can share his grief by insensitively taking the pi55 out of his loss. They will only be words apparently

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You're a throbber

The "It's Only Words" comment was a pun based on a track Boyzone did called "Words"

Imagine trawling stuff up from another thread to post here. 😳

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By all accounts he was a very nice guy who when in a position where he was a poster boy for lots of teenage girls, was "forced" out by The Sun. Couple that with growing up gay in a country where attitudes towards his sexuality weren't all that liberal not so long ago would be why I don't feel the need to take the piss out of him now. Some dead celebs deserve it, some don't. I'd say he falls into the second category.

I have no idea who the guy was. There's a mild whiff of traditional homophobic bollocks coming off the closed thread, and a strong whiff of sanctimonious bollocks coming off this one. 😐

Can we sum up by saying that you've been whiffing a lot of bollocks BigDummy ?

Wonder if we'd have read the same childish comments if Stephen Fry had kicked the bucket? Somehow I doubt it.

Being as Stephen Fry frequently makes jokes about his own sexuality in a similarly puerile manner then I suspect if we did start making "Fry's Turkish Delight" jokes or whatever when he dies then he'd find it suitably appropriate.

start making "Fry's Turkish Delight" jokes

I don't get it.

TBH this whole forum could quite easily be classed as irrelevant. Distracting, entertaining, occasionally useful sure but generally irrelevant.

Some dead celebs deserve it,

Oh FFS, how would you know?

Personally I think I might have felt differently if any of the stuff in that thread was actually funny.

It all just seemed very childish and not amusing. See Frankie Boyle for how to be offensive and funny.

The original thread was a little distasteful and showed a few of our members are narrow minded and/or have a sick sense of humour (though it could be said most of the UK have a similar one). Dragging it back up again and inviting more of the same - utterly stupid.

But comedy and offensive-ness are subjective and intimately related to context.

And this is an internet forum. Just not worth getting worked up over (although there seems to be a nunber of folks who like to).

Hey ho 😎

You just "know" Cheeky. Don't worry, you'll understand one day.

LOL

Always good to see a patronizing response in place of anything vaguely rationale.

Why is it ok to be offensive on an Internet forum ... a very lame cop out?

B BOb
Why would I be embarassed about what you said? Surely you should be they are your words after all?
You seem to think words are not offensive yet you seem annoyed by me posting your own words ... interesting are you learning yet?

I did wonder if anyone would get the "it's only words" reference.

It took me a couple of seconds & then when I noticed it.......I wasn't sure if I should mention that I recognise it as being a Boyzone song. I'm not a fan, honest.

If in life the chap had stuck his neck out, built a career on offending others or shock-jock etc then to a degree in death he could expect the same. However he didnt offend anyone did he? His sexuality shouldnt even be discussed, it should be the merits of him as a person not a tag.

Imagine when a soap star dies we all discuss how manly and straight he was- make jokes about his hetrosexuality.

Just dont get why people think its ok to do this. Someone like Jade Goody was lampooned for many many reasons, none were to do with her sexuality were they.

I suspect the fact that he was so generally inoffensive and little known meant that the typical post-mortem jokes only really had one possible topic.

It's basically going to be references to him being gay, really bad puns or a combination of both.

Personally, while it may be offensive, I don't find it any [i]more[/i] offensive than picking on any other particular trait of the subject (i.e. ginger, fat, short, tall, bald, Welsh etc etc)

Why is it ok to be offensive on an Internet forum ... a very lame cop out?

B BOb
Why would I be embarassed about what you said? Surely you should be they are your words after all?
You seem to think words are not offensive yet you seem annoyed by me posting your own words ... interesting are you learning yet?

This is a genuine question, are you a bit mentally challenged? Did you bother at all to read my posts in between spitting feathers.

Words by Boyzone

Smile, an everlasting smile
A smile can bring you near to me
Don't ever let me find you gone
Cause that would bring a tear to me
This world has lost it's glory
Lets start a brand new story
Now, my love
You think that I don't even mean
A single word I say...
[b]It's only words[/b]
And words are all I have
To take your heart away
Talk, in everlasting words
And dedicate them all, to me
And I will give you all my life
I'm here if you should call to me
You think that I don't even mean
a single word I say...
CHORUS, repeat
Da da da da da da da
Da da da da da da da da
Da da da da da da da da
Da da da da da da da da
This world has lost it's glory
Let's start a brand new story
Now, my love
You think that I don't even mean
a single word I say...

Do you see what I did there?

Am i the only one brave enough to say it?

The guy had an unbelievably large mouth. Watch the videos. It must be some kind of record. Amazingly large mouth is all i have to add to this thread......

His sexuality has never been an issue for me, his singing was. Better than mine, that's easy, but still awful. R.I.S.* Stephen.
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* Rest In Silence

You want to check out the thread on mlehworld if you want offensiveness

but I honestly thought that this was a grown up forum, not a mouthpiece for narrow-minded bigots

Where on earth did you get that idea from?

But comedy and offensive-ness are subjective and intimately related to context.

And this is an internet forum. Just not worth getting worked up over (although there seems to be a nunber of folks who like to).

I'm still failing to grasp the idea that somehow expressing offensive views on the internet is ok 'because it's just the internet'.

but I honestly thought that this was a grown up forum, not a mouthpiece for narrow-minded bigots.

that would be where youve gone wrong mf

though i do agree with you

somebody famous of little talent has died.
whoever gives a toss apart from the immediate family and friends needs to reassess their priorities and perhaps interact with real people a bit more.

However he didnt offend anyone did he?

You don't find it offensive that a no-mark lives in luxury? I do.

Someone like Jade Goody was lampooned for many many reasons, none were to do with her sexuality were they

She was lampooned for many reasons like that she was fat and thick, neither of which were any more her own doing than his sexuality

whoever gives a toss apart from the immediate family and friends needs to reassess their priorities and perhaps interact with real people a bit more.

I can't say I am in any way upset about him dying as I didn't know him or care for his music, but I still find s****ing schoolboys making unfunny homophobic jokes about him dying a little tasteless.

Well said Grumm.

You don't find it offensive that a no-mark lives in luxury? I do.

i think its a shame that the soldiers getting killed weekly doesnt cause as much outrage as a few tasteless jokes about a shit singer dying ;-( yes he is young but the last 4 soldiers to die were 23,20,24 and 21

http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/patrick-swayzee

i think its a shame that the soldiers getting killed weekly doesnt cause as much outrage

Scratching FTW. Yellow is rubbish.

think its a shame that the soldiers getting killed weekly doesnt cause as much outrage as a few tasteless jokes about a shit singer dying

Why don't you post a few tasteless jokes about it? It's only the internet, after all.

Come on, there's somewhat of a history of pop/rock stars dying unexpectedly in rather amusing circumstances after overindulgence in various aspects of the superstar lifestyle.

For example I don't think that the death of Micheal Hutchence would have been any more amusing if he was gay, it was however bloody funny in its own right cause he died having a fancy Wnak with a rope tied around his neck...

Now, if it turns out that Gately died in an innocent manner, rather than choking on his own vomit (or something else) after snorting lines of charlie, then I'll gladly eat my hat, however I'm willing to bet his death was part of a monumental act of stupidity on his own behalf, in which case there's no doubt its a laughing matter.

Zulu - you miss the point of the OP - had your example argument been correct I would have to agree with you. But my point was that he was being held up to ridicule because of his sexuality and not because he got utterly wasted on whatever drink/drugs cocktail he took which brought on his demise.

I think it was disgraceful when that poor chap Rod Hull died and people kept on trying to tell him the score was 2-1. 😥

somebody famous of little talent has died.
whoever gives a toss apart from the immediate family and friends needs to reassess their priorities and perhaps interact with real people a bit more.

Jesus Sweet child of mine. I actually agree with what mrSmith says 🙄

The multi millionaire queer pop singer in a boy band was found dead, after bringing back a freind from a club, with his husband.

...........................................................

Stephen Gately,the talented,rich pop star from Boyzone a boy band,sadly died at the weekend,He was found dead,by his partner,and a male freind.

Police report there are no suspicious circumstances.

Apologies for the use of the word queer,
and as i said yesterday on the Stephen Gateley thread,

Stephen Gateley RIP.

Now which few words sell papers

This is a genuine question, are you a bit mentally challenged?

Stephen died of Natural causes,according to BBC today.

hora - Member
I received a STW warning for being abused by French Juan. There are some wierd thinking/people here.

classic case of juan rule for some, one rule for others.

Words by Boyzone

I hate to sound picky, but it's actually by The Bee Gees... 😕

LOL @ flatboy !

...... although I never realised that it against stw rules to be abused by French Juan 😕

As the OP I was shocked by Stephen's demise tbh - no matter what his personal life he always came across as a genuine bloke. After the first few responses I gave up on what people were saying.

Still, that's chat forums

Although I haven't read the thread in question (I'll get onto it now), I feel let down by the lack of bannings for such vile distasteful postings. Considering the architects of the fictional DoLittle/Lanesra show down were thrown into exile for 11months and and four weeks for indulging themselves in the creation of late night entertainment for the homophobic untermensch of STW, I expect bannings and rickockulous and insulting notices from the mod to issue forthwith.

If not, I fear I shall arrive at similar shocking conclusions as the esteemed Doctor.

Thank you.

I could'nt stand their music personally but I'm sorry to hear of his death. Try and understand how it felt for those close to him, like it was your own brother or sister. A life taken.

Here's thing, and there's really no way of getting around it. Homosexuality is a 'minority sport' (hopefully that should be a fairy benign metaphor). It's not common in the population and consequently there will always be sections of the majority who fear or hate those they see as being different. And different it is - doesn't matter what your politics are, you really can't get away from the fact that instances of homosexuality in the human race are relatively speaking low, otherwise we sort of wouldn't have the human race. Now being different IMO is no reason for prejudice. On the other hand, I think we are, evolutionarily speaking, a long way as a species from being able to universally tolerate people that are different. Which is a shame.

Beautifully worded Gee. Live and let live.

We're still tribal with a thin veneer of civilization Gee