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We have recently dropped Tesco in favour of Aldi. Purely down to money if I'm honest.

My Tesco food shop had steadily increased over the years then they reduced delivery costs and the food prices seemed to rocket.

So now it's Aldi for most stuff and co-op/Sainsbury's for bits and bobs.

Aldis single malt isn't bad either.


 
Posted : 02/09/2014 5:10 pm
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Aldi bubbly is surprisingly good!

Used to say that for Tesco too....


 
Posted : 02/09/2014 5:12 pm
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Agree, round here Lidl and Aldi are cheaper and Sainsburys and Waitrose are better for the rareities, plus this is rural North Yorkshire so independent farm shops and butchers abound.


 
Posted : 02/09/2014 5:13 pm
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To buck the trend we dropped Tesco for ethical reasons.

Food shopping now shared between Ocado, Sainsbury, Waitrose and local shops/farmers market.


 
Posted : 02/09/2014 5:23 pm
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For me it was poor quality meat and veg/fruit at Tesco. And just endless rows of the same ready meal.
I like aldi stuff, its selective and to the point. Shopping at aldi is quick to, so I can nip to Waitrose and local specialist shops for the same time spent in a miserable Tesco.
Our weekly shop is also now far cheaper.


 
Posted : 02/09/2014 5:28 pm
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Aldi is also doing well because it reduces choice.

Although the chocolate range is confusing.
Best to try them all.


 
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Wow, I thought supermarkets were all the same. Waitrose has far tastier checkout girls though.


 
Posted : 02/09/2014 5:44 pm
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Only use Tesco for a wee.

[i]Clean up in aisle 7....[/i]


 
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Aside from the quality and competition from others issues, Tescos have simply become to big.

The problem with organisations like this is that growth and profit has to be bigger than previous years as demanded by the shareholders. They are starting to go backwards, and the company has that panic-stricken air about it.

Unless it winds it neck in and becomes fighting fit for today's market by actually shrinking its size, all I see is a self-induced collapse by trying to maintain the growth at all costs idealogy.

They should learn the lesson from their fresh and easy chain in the US, and cut their losses.


 
Posted : 02/09/2014 6:10 pm
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We've just got a new local Aldi and tbh it's carparks always crammed ....
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We've also got a nice M&S which mrs DoD shops in , it's not dirt cheap but tbh it's not bad as the food is very good...

I get a lot of my meat online from musclefood and that's amazing well priced for healthy meat. Always amazed at how little if any fat comes out there burgers 🙂


 
Posted : 02/09/2014 6:22 pm
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I used to get market research reports every week in one of my old jobs. For the thick end of 3 years, the supermarket trend that Waitrose, Aldi and Lidl were gaining market share, and everyone else was losing out.

This is called "p ❗ g in the wind" by all respected market watchers. Basically, no matter how good a company is, if they're trying to go against the weather, they're screwed. Can you imagine the rise of Aldi, Lidl and B&M etc. happening during a massive economic boom? No, me neither.

Tesco have got a fair few things going wrong at once.

1) Pricing. Buy one packet of bacon for £3 or 3 for £6 or whatever just does not work in their convenience format stores, which they've opened a lot of lately. Maybe in the 150k sq ft warehouse where you're doing a massive family shop, but not in the convenience stores.
2) Cannabalism. You can barely travel 5 minutes in any direction without finding a Tesco. This means that when Tesco open a new store, they take sales off another Tesco store.
3) Quality. Own label ready meals etc. aren't as good as Sainsburys, M&S, Waitrose or Ocado, and I'd say not as good as Aldi or Lidl.
4) Profitable customers are going to Aldi and Lidl. The ones with good salaries and company cars who buy Prosecco, ready meals and all the mid / upper tier products that you actually make margin on. And they are completely unashamed about shopping at a "cheap supermarket".
5) Overseas ventures have gone very badly for them, and cost them a lot of money.
6) Convenience. It's not convenient for anyone to spend an hour walking around a supermarket the size of an airport. However, this could be said of any of Tesco / JS / Morrisons.
7) They have reached the "try anything" stage of retail management. It's fairly obvious that they've told store managers to try out their own ideas to get sales, which tends to result in a rather odd in store experience on occasion.


 
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I've tried many supermarkets over the years, we used to do each weekly shop in a different one for variety at one point, and as an average heres what it cost...

Tesco £85
Asda £75
Morrisons £70
Aldi £50

Tesco always had that feeling of pants taken down, nice big airy stores with wide isles but prices way OTT.

Asda although they claim to be the cheapest we could never make it so with the products we'd buy from there.

Morrisons was our staple for years once we settled on one supermarket, detested the BOGOF offers and would rather just get the one product cheaper in the first place.

Aldi attracted me with the cheaper shoppping bill challenge 6 months back, and now never looking back. Better quality, and fridge + cupboards absolutely overflowing. To the point you open fridge and stuff falls out LOL I'll never look back now, unless Aldi really rock the boat. Quality, especially the fruit/veg puts the other three to shame.


 
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Although the chocolate range is confusing.
Best to try them all.
Ha ha. I am indeed trying out all the chocolate range 🙂


 
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Quality, especially the fruit/veg puts the other three to shame.

Exactly. In Aldi and Lidl the fruit/veg is way, way better and way cheaper. It really is a no brainer.


 
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We've just got a new local Aldi and tbh it's carparks always crammed ....
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We've also got a nice M&S which mrs DoD shops in , it's not dirt cheap but tbh it's not bad as the food is very good...

I get a lot of my meat online from musclefood and that's amazing well priced for healthy meat. Always amazed at how little if any fat comes out there burgers

You seem to have pasted a RM tracking number in your post, dude.

...apparently they tried to deliver, but you were out, so left a card 😀


 
Posted : 02/09/2014 7:04 pm
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My local tescos (big box and express) sell local Kelham Island bitter. None of the others sell anything local at all. Just bland mass produced brands.

Tesco do get some things right.


 
Posted : 02/09/2014 7:12 pm
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with tescos issuing another profit warning I was wondering when this shift in buying to Aldi/lidl was going start effecting the big brands profits ? I know for a fact some of aldi breakfast cereals are made by weetabix but even so the profit margin can't be as good as their premium lines.


 
Posted : 02/09/2014 7:29 pm
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The Tesco fruit and veg thing is a funny one.

Tesco Prestwich - Poorly stocked, damaged crap
Tesco Cheetham Hill (4 miles away) - Much better.

Incidentally Cheetham Hill has many Asian supermarkets with spectacular produce displays. Prestwich has none.


 
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...plus they have THE WORST self checkout machines. Don't even take £2 coins FFS.

Well my Friend works in Morrisons and they actually do take the £2 coin, it's just the size of them fills the coin box up too fast so they put a note on saying they don't accept them.

That's not a joke, my Friend works on them checkouts. Unbelievable.

They are the worst checkouts ever.


 
Posted : 02/09/2014 8:49 pm
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Personally I have hated Tesco with a vengeance for over a decade due to their evident joy at destroying and ill treating suppliers. And the land banking issue as well. In both respects they are worse than any other supermarket apart from maybe ASDA. Terry Leahy has a lot to answer for and deserves a lot of ill fortune.


 
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They've clad the trolley sheds in wood effect plastic now.....that should sort everything nicely I reckon.


 
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I N R A T S but I hope folk see the parallels with Wiggle, CRC etc.


 
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I like Tesco. It's convenient, and they got the online grocery/click+collect thing nailed before many others.

I'm not surprised; you spend so much time on this forum, I doubt you have any time to do an real shopping. Click and collect must be manna from heaven for oyu. reay meal for one again is it? 😉

Fortunately we don't need to shop at supermarkets. Our local shops wil get stuff in for us specally, if we ask for it. We even have stuff grown of rus. 8)

I don't like the quality fresh food and meat they sell.

That;s because they don't sell fresh food and meat...


 
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I'm not surprised; you spend so much time on this forum, I doubt you have any time to do an real shopping. Click and collect must be manna from heaven for oyu.

That's quite amusing, coming from Singletrackworld's resident boomerang.


 
Posted : 02/09/2014 9:37 pm
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I'm a big fayn of local shops.

Yeovil is really good for them.


 
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i worked for tesco throughout northern england and in eastern europe for over twenty years. i worked at the coal face dealing with customers and staff all day.

despite been 'sold' the line that the business was the cheapest retailer when they obviuosly were not, and this is still pedalled to staff today the clearest indicator is where the staff shop.. and it isnt tesco. morrisons and asda were the frim favoruites and the discounters now take a ssignificant share. a trip to aldis and lidls reveals many older shoppers and many ethnic communities using the store .. these grupos know where to find any bargains.

we staocked far to many different marmalades.. we 'd have no tinned tomatoes onsale but have another 5 fancy tinned products still full on the shelf next to the gap, we d have no vimto on sale but lime cordial filling half a shelf.. i was once the lone voice in a discussion about incresing the range of vitamins.. why they take up space they cost money they get stolen they take an age to fill.. fill the shelf with loo roll.. they sell out everyday.. i lost to the vitamin hungry trend setters.. pile it high sell it cheap is a good motto so is Keep It simple..

far too many managers or desk fillers or dorothy perkins power dressers.. and some massively overpaid.. 100k is not unusual for a superstaore manager 50k is not unusual for a bloke looking after the shelf fillers on a night.. yes i have done it yes its not easy no its not worth 50k..

and finally the biggest white elephant of all.. dot com.. it does not will not can not ever make a legitimate profit yet is seen as the saviour by all those university chums setting the trends..

sell what folk want cheap, sell it cheaply.. its not that difficult.


 
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For me Tescos are the perfect example of the kind of greedy, ruthless, 'lets screw the little guy' type of company that I absolutely despise. It's been over ten years since I last shopped there and I have no plans to shop there again.


 
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Personally I have hated Tesco with a vengeance for over a decade due to their evident joy at destroying and ill treating suppliers.

At last, having worked for a supplier for many years the decision was taken to tell Tesco's where to shove it. They even used the "Do you know who we are" line.
I'm led to understand our MD took great pleasure in telling them "We certainly know who you are. Your the people that are shafting your suppliers out of making a living, so as from now you can look elsewhere for your *****"
6 months later they came crying back as no one else could reliably supply them at the price they paid, even greater delight was taken in saying "sorry we are at full capacity supplying many of your competitors at a fair price" 😀
I have many contacts & family in the food supply chain that shudder when you mention Tesco.


 
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6 months later they came crying back as no one else could reliably supply them at the price they paid, even greater delight was taken in saying "sorry we are at full capacity supplying many of your competitors at a fair price"

I love a story with a happy ending


 
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I N R A T S but I hope folk see the parallels with Wiggle, CRC etc.

Not sure what to conclude from this, but reading this thread has caused my irony-o-meter to explode.


 
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If you bought it from Tesco, they have an excellent returns policy.


 
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If you bought it from Tesco, they have an excellent returns policy.

Bit like Amazon, then.


 
Posted : 02/09/2014 10:12 pm
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Tesco are on my go# list. I use them to go# for a poo or wee when I'm out and about at work. I like to give a little crap back it restores the universal balance.


 
Posted : 02/09/2014 10:47 pm
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All the major supermarkets are pretty much the same, using similar buying practices. Tesco May or may not be the most aggressive though ASDA could be worse when you remember that they are really Wallmart. The worst one in my view is the COOP, they spout their much prized ethics while giving suppliers the Tesco treatment.

Have not shopped at any of the major supermarkets since 2005, when ever possible try to keep it local or from companies/organisations I trust. This may not be possible for some given location but I can assure that it does not cost more.


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 5:08 am
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We've just flund Tesco to be poor service, shelves empty, too many small stores locally and there home delivery service was appalling, multiple basic substitutions, turning up hours late and being very rude when complained to. They git far too big fast and believe their own hype. Couple that with discounters and recession they lost their way. They are a dog eared brand and it's going to take alot to get back to where they were.


 
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Ethically I dislike Tesco due to the was they muscle their Express stores in ignoring the legitimate local concerns. The large stores were also muscled through but this has actually come back to bite them as consumers now want smaller stores.
Most of our shop is done at Aldi with s supplemented by Sainsbury's and local shops. Other than good value the main bonus of Aldi is how easy it is to shop - only 1 or 2 choices of every item but nearly always as good as brands, the shop can be done in half the time and stress of a Tesco one.
I'm not sure why Aldi and Lidl are called discounters as there prices are always low it's the old school supermarkets that always have discount price offers and always on branded junk food I don't really want.


 
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Much fruit I've bought in Aldi is crap, plenty other good stuff though.

Are Tesco really that much worse than other big supermarkets?

Jamie - Freeloader!
I N R A T S but I hope folk see the parallels with Wiggle, CRC etc.

Not sure what to conclude from this, but reading this thread has caused my irony-o-meter to explode.

How/why?


 
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How/why?

It was a Tesco Value irony-o-meter. Cheap tat. A [i]Finest[/i] irony-o-meter would have managed a whole STW relationship advice thread and still be ready for this one.


 
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I N R A T S but I hope folk see the parallels with Wiggle, CRC etc.

Not really, in fact it seems like the complete opposite of the situation with Tesco from a consumer POV. Wiggle/CRC's main selling point is that you can be pretty damned sure you'll have what you want in stock and that it will be at a decent price. They also offer a convenient and pleasant shopping experience and reasonable customer service.

Maybe you should try not to struggle with long sentences?


 
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How/why?

As per your comment, really. A lot of those who are ragging on Tesco being a marketplace behemoth, think nothing of using CRC/Wiggle. It's not a perfect parallel, but there are some similarities.

Are Tesco really that much worse than other big supermarkets?

From a shopping experience, I would say not really. In some areas they are ok, where other stores are not...and vice versa.

Edit:

Maybe you should try not to struggle with long sentences?

Bit early for fighting talk? 😀


 
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it seems like the complete opposite

This word "oppostite". I do not think it means what you think it means.

Of course there are similarities. If you can't see that you're either intellectually bereft or shoehorning a pop at STW's Hitter of Hitters into your post.

Bit early for fighting talk?

Never too early. 😀


 
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Never too early.

I'LL KILL YOU FOR SAYING THAT! 😡


 
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How/why?
As per your comment, really. A lot of those who are ragging on Tesco being a marketplace behemoth, think nothing of using CRC/Wiggle. It's not a perfect parallel, but there are some similarities.

Are Tesco really that much worse than other big supermarkets?
From a shopping experience, I would say not really. In some areas they are ok, where other stores are not...and vice versa.

Cool. Re 2nd point, I was meaning in terms of aggressiveness etc rather than the shopping experience.

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I N R A T S but I hope folk see the parallels with Wiggle, CRC etc.
Not really, in fact it seems like the complete opposite of the situation with Tesco from a consumer POV. Wiggle/CRC's main selling point is that you can be pretty damned sure you'll have what you want in stock and that it will be at a decent price. They also offer a convenient and pleasant shopping experience and reasonable customer service.

Maybe you should try not to struggle with long sentences?

Amazon's business model is to grow, even at a loss if necessary, until they have a huge market share (and consumers have little choice), then put the prices up. Supermarkets have been putting locals out of business for decades, as online/mail order is now doing with gusto.

Yup, entirely different to CRC/Wiggle.

Maybe you can discuss like an adult without having a go 1st post?


 
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All the major supermarkets are pretty much the same, using similar buying practices. Tesco May or may not be the most aggressive though ASDA could be worse when you remember that they are really Wallmart. The worst one in my view is the COOP, they spout their much prized ethics while giving suppliers the Tesco treatment

Our local Asda is dire. Even if you can navigate through the isles, around the three generations of morons that seem to crowd around every other trolley (which itself is likely being pushed diagonal way angle to take up more space) you will routinely find it has run out of something vital. Bananas is the usual - I think I went on three successive trips without seeing a single one.

Aldi and Lidl aren't bad in so far as they go, but they don't really have the range of stuff and if you hit the places at the wrong time, the some of the clientelle can make the experience rather grim.

We've given up on supermarkets. We now use Ocado home delivery which is unfailingly excellent and our local butcher.


 
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The worst one in my view is the
COOP, they spout their much prized ethics while
giving suppliers the Tesco treatment.

^This

In 2012 milk farmers were asking consumers to not buy milk in morrisons, Asda, lidl, coop and Asda due to the prices paid for milk. Funny how the unethical tag just sticks with Tesco.


 
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For me the problem with Tesco is that for too long they have believed they were clever and their customers stupid - playing silly buggers with the prices/offers etc.

Well guess what, people (a lot of them anyway) aren't that stupid. Once they work out you've tricked (or tried to trick) them they aren't coming back.


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 8:21 am
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An interesting thread, I work for Tesco as a dept mgr.

The downfall, will agree with dot.com it just destroys the shop you can see the one's without dot.com when you walk in as all of a sudden they have stock on the shelves.

The issues which Dave needs to deal with, competitors we ignored the discounters at our peril, customers want Aldi, lidl and the return to the UK of Netto.

Our stores are tired and old even the new ones, we are so tight on the sales floor for staff we don't have time to be helpful as we always for 10 cages to work to get the stock to the shelf. We have too many pink and fluffy managers I could name 3 job roles which we just don't need in the shop. Would much better to put the cash spend back into the right departments to be able to offer great service.

Get rid of the staff that can't be arsed to even try to deliver service, some customers want to be talked to and some don't if you can't tell the difference should you really be working in this job role.

The biggest issue is the saturation of shops, its bloody stupid in the 3 miles from the store I work at we have 1 superstore, 2 extra stores and then another 8 express stores. There is also 3 Morrisons (ex safeways stores), 4 Sainsburys and 2 Asda's. Its bloody stupid, no wonder no one makes any money and the shops are quiet. To make it worse a new Asda is opening up 4 miles away!! why!!!

Tesco could do so much to boost sales and regain the customers, some of the multi-channel stuff is good, blinxbox, Tesco direct, but do we need Giraffe and that coffee shop chain? not really and even that Gardening chain we own was purchased at a loss.

Terry knew when to leave as he could see it happening. The stores are having a restructure pretty much the same as asda a line of management being taken out, but my view is its the wrong management line.

Dave did his vision yesterday at the NEC for all the store managers so guessing we will find out whats going on soon enough.


 
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Maybe you can discuss like an adult without having a go 1st post?

You intentionally avoided the "I'm not RATS" filter so I assume you know what it corrects to. It's "I struggle with long sentences", just in case you don't.


 
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The biggest issue is the saturation of shops, its bloody stupid in the 3 miles from the store I work at we have 1 superstore, 2 extra stores and then another 8 express stores. There is also 3 Morrisons (ex safeways stores), 4 Sainsburys and 2 Asda's. Its bloody stupid, no wonder no one makes any money and the shops are quiet. To make it worse a new Asda is opening up 4 miles away!! why!!!

Where I live Tesco's actively bullied/paid off the council to block a Sainsburys. The closest Sainsburys is 3miles away in each direction. My closest other supermarket is Co-Op. Another place I wouldn't touch.

Tescos did a good job on the council. It cost them I bet but Trafford Cricket club and the council got their fill moneywise.

Meanwhile 3miles away theres a Tescos/Sainsburys and Aldi all within 30metres of each other...

Makes you wonder what money changed hands near us.

No offence to you but if Tesco's go under/implode I wouldn't see it as too bad a thing. The prices aren't that cheap and the meat is shockingly expensive. In a big city they've got themselves nicely covered in this area. Everyone has to drive to shop, theres really no competition.

It also reminds me how Tesco's got away with the planning at their Stockport site. Ignore- build a bigger store, blame it on the builders then threaten to close/shed staff if Stockport Council didn't back down.


 
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Where I live Tesco's actively bullied/paid off the council to block a Sainsburys.

Somewhere a lawyer is stirring...

Edit: Right. Tesco are good guys again 8)

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hora
build a bigger store, blame it on the builders

Why would a builder make it bigger? They wouldn't get paid the extra.
Planning would be over them like a rash.
have you got your facts straight? I'm sure you must have heard that in the pub so it must be true.


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 9:32 am
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Hora, no offence taken.

I worked for safeway when that went belly up, the problem is if Tesco went belly up the one thing we all forget it's the second biggest employer in the uk after the nhs. If/when things go south it pretty much effects everyone in the country. Have to hope that deadly dave as he has been tagged talks to the customers, staff and only after that the shareholders and not the other way round and maybe he can turn it round.


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 9:32 am
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Where do you think Tescos shoppers would all go to? Their competitors. Where do you think Tescos shoppers are going to now and who is growing?


 
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Why would a builder make it bigger? They wouldn't get paid the extra.
Planning would be over them like a rash.
have you got your facts straight? I'm sure you must have heard that in the pub so it must be true

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/5342914.stm


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 9:39 am
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I'm sure you must have heard that in the pub so it must be true

Curious. You do realise that if theres a dispute locally you tend to have it all over the local press right? With updates.


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 9:44 am
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Ahh OK, I'm not local, apologies. Many of those stories come from the local tavern by me.
Most new builds don't actually have planning in place when the works start on site and the developers assume everything will be fine.
Sometimes you have a slight hiccup which is normally sorted before it becomes a news item. Here I see it was a bit mare than a hiccup.
From that link it gave 500 jobs and trained 120 so sot a bad outcome eh?


 
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From that link it gave 500 jobs and trained 120 so sot a bad outcome eh?

500 mostly low paid jobs and training in how to stack shelves. Marvellous.

Not to mention that it's taking away from independent shops which tend to pay better, use more local suppliers and treat their staff like human beings.

They're basically saying 'we'll do what we want because we employ people' and you're fine with that?


 
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Must be the week Tesco take a kicking...

http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/sep/03/tesco-woolwich-carbuncle-cup-architectural-prize


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 10:10 am
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you're fine with that?

500 local jobs in one area?
That can only be a good thing.
The reason the pay is so low? Demand for work and Tesco know it - that's shit.
The good independents will always be there.
Tesco won't take their staff because as you say, the salary is higher.


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 10:18 am
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500 local jobs in one area?
That can only be a good thing.

Not really if it takes jobs away from independents who employ more people to do the same work (oh noes they aren't as efficient) and put much more of their money/profits back into the local economy.


 
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Good, kick them when they are down too.............


 
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I don't like Tesco so I don't shop there. Nor Asda.
That's about it really.


 
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There's a little trick Tescos are using that very few people know about.

They will try and put an Express into a town and if it is refused they will go quiet for a while. Then an application will come along for a One Stop instead, which will usually get the green light as it's seen as a small player similar to local shops. Except that Tesco own the One Stop brand and run them exactly like a small Tesco's. They are very careful not to use own-brand products in them and use separate lorries for deliveries. This means they can muscle out any competition without being seen to flood an area with their little shops.


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 10:41 am
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From that link it gave 500 jobs and trained 120 so sot a bad outcome eh?

You think? Taking jobs from companies its driven to the wall and of those '500' how many are a few hours here and there on zero hours contracts under the 10k tax threshold pulling in tax credits ontop thus massaging the governments jobless figures?

As I said ^ customer demand doesn't come out of thin air, there was shopper demand in the area before Tescos came along. Where/how it was serviced has changed. I wonder how many other retailers takings are now down/staff on shortened hours/left to go to Tescos?

Bollocks that works starts before planning is approved. Tescos Stockport had planning permission approved and approved to plans submitted within a certain footprint. (seen the site?)


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 10:41 am
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milky1980 - yup, that's exactly what they've done in Hebden as they know there would be an outcry if a Tesco opened!


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 10:53 am
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The amount of utter rubbish being quoted on this thread is brilliant. My Mrs works for Tesco head office so is certainly in the know, and has had a good chuckle at some of the crap being posted. 🙂


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 11:01 am
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I wouldn't worry about the little ones, our local experience is a new small Sainsburys was a boon to local traders as it massively increased footfall in one area (There was a huge campaign to stop them coming in). Likewise the loss of a one stop reduced footfall in another nearby shopping street causing local traders to suffer, but is now back up to previous levels due to another small Sainsburys coming in (there was no fight to stop them).


 
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The amount of utter rubbish being quoted on this thread is brilliant. My Mrs works for Tesco head office so is certainly in the know, and has had a good chuckle at some of the crap being posted.

My dog is the MD of Tesco, Lord Ruffington Woofwoof. He is also having a chuckle at the thread....

....it's much easier than countering any points made you believe to be false, or stating ones case.

Plus he's a dog, and struggles with the laptop.


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 11:21 am
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He sticks his head out of the windows eh


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 11:23 am
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....I mean, it's much easier than countering any points made, or stating ones case.

Too much BS on this thread Jamie to start countering to be honest, I'd be here all day. I will say that there are a lot of people who say they don't shop at Tesco because of their ethics, but I'd wager these people have no particular examples that they can back up with anything other than hearsay.

Good name for a dog BTW. 🙂


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 11:25 am
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I'd wager these people have no particular examples that they can back up with anything other than hearsay

I hate to point it out, but this is exactly your position at this moment in time.

Sorry.


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 11:28 am
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I hate to point it out, but this is exactly your position at this moment in time.

Not at all. 🙂 I've not given examples of anything to back up??! :-S

However, I do at least live with someone who takes an active part in the management of the organisation...that would be a little more than hearsay old chap. 🙂


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 11:30 am
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Cbmotorsport then she'll know how keenly suppliers are whipped.


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 11:36 am
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hearsay
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unverified, unofficial information gained or acquired from another and not part of one's direct knowledge:

However, I do at least live with someone who takes an active part in the management of the organisation

So not at all biased then.

You may have a point that other supermarket chains aren't much better, but that doesn't make Tesco ethical.


 
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Boo........ Tescos.


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 11:43 am
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However, I do at least live with someone who takes an active part in the management of the organisation...that would be a little more than hearsay old chap

But you are also emotionaly invested in the subject so not exactly an objective observer.

But whether what people think about tesco is true or not people still think it so its still their problem as they are projecting this image. They need to fix it.

They can learn from their competitors. A few years ago Sainsbury's had a reputation of always being out of stock and expensive. So the launched a huge public campaign to fix it, the replaced back office systems and invested in stock to fix the out of stock issues. They lowered some prices etc. They actually fixed the issues.

However the public perception of Tesco is that they are trying to con us into thinking they are cheap and in stock rather than actually changing anything. Crappy special offers and shelves full of things we don't want to buy don't help if I want 4 pints of semi skimmed and there isn't any.

This may not be true Tesco, may be brilliant at what they* do but public perception is king.

*[i]They aren't, whatever your wife says Tesco have some fairly fundamental issues to fix[/i]


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 11:44 am
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Cbmotorsport then she'll know how keenly suppliers are whipped.

Yes, they are, but not unethically - and no more than many other supermarkets will.

The biggest reason for Tesco's drop in profit is the rise of the discount stores, Aldi, Lidl etc. In some key categories Tesco genuinely struggle to compete. The recent figures are also slightly skewed by their failure to break into the American market, and the losses that the considerable investment required have caused.


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 11:47 am
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This may not be true Tesco, may be brilliant at what they* do but public perception is king.

Very true, every time you visit a Tescos a little bit of the staff despair rubs off on you.


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 11:48 am
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I need to do my shop.
I don't have much time as I'm busy busy.
I have a list.
I need veg,fruit, undies, USB stick, new TV for the toilet, rug for the kitchen, cat food, frozen food and a whole lot more. I'm not rich so don't want to spend much money.
I drive by Tesco (or whichever other, could even be of German origin).
I go in.
25 minutes later I'm out with all items.
I paid less than elsewhere, had parking and could even carry my stuff in a silver chariot to the car.
I'm biased about my time and money.
I'm sure 99.9 percent of others here are the same.


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 11:48 am
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Yes, they are, but not unethically

I really have no idea how you reckon you are in a position to know that, based on your wife having a job there.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tesco+unethical+practice+suppliers


 
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