[Closed] Tescos. are there companies worse than them?

Listen Elfinman, the only reason you like hanging around Tesco is for this :

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hora - Member
Playing fields, beautiful park and adjoing school. Sold to Tescos by your local council. Tescos put in a planning application ....refused so they have submitted more plans for a store double the size......

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Wasnt Whitchurch in Shropshire was it,

Also Tesco have run out of carier bags on friday and the reusable ones have run out as well, andf they didnt grit ther car parks and havent done since the snow started.

http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/supermarket-ice-on-carpark

Tesco in Stockport was built a lot bigger than plan and causes serious problems for the delivery drivers going there as theres litle room to manoevere and also ever try driving in or out of there in a car, its a weird setup to get out and in.

So Tesco kil off a few small shops employing a few people open limited hours, tesco come along and open 24 hours , in a bright warm shop, with plenty of work for the locals, and drivers etc.Its a win win situation.

So Tesco kil off a few small shops employing a few people open limited hours, tesco come along and open 24 hours...

I've said before on here, that IMO this is the biggest issue, and the key reason behind failure of small businesses and the witnessed rise of express and metro stores.

Lifestyles have changed, work patterns have changed, and, most importantly, women work full time to an extent that never happened before - if a grocery shop is open 9-5 mon-sat then their customer base [b]will[/b] desert them, businesses must react to the marketplace and customer demands

The cycle business was never that profitable; the newer business models being employed by CRC, Wiggle, Evans etc are more efficient than the nice happy friendly LBS model.

You are trying to compare apples and oranges and doing it to make a trite point. I get your point, but comparing mail order to LBS isn't the same for groceries and other fast moving consumer goods. Last time I checked, the biggest threat to the high street butcher wasn't a mail order butcher. Same goes for the friendly neighbourhood baker.

If you want to make a like for like comparison, talk about chains of stores compared to single businesses - like Evans (except Evans tend not to build on green field sites and don't own land to prevent rivals setting up shop). Evans still have shop fronts and high street presence but have the buying power of a large chain. They can spank the indies on price every time, but fail on service and knowledge (usually).

If you want to argue the difference between consumable logistics and the rest, please continue. I hate it when you weasely word things and fail to make a cohesive argument.

Out Tesco was granted planning permission based on social inprovements Tesco agreed to develop for the local community once it's store was up and running.

Now it is in full operation Tesco, according to local rag, have basically said 'sod off'.

Tesco built a store in Stockport. It was subsequently found to be alot bigger than they were giving original planning permission for. They were told to shorten the store (and not to use the extra space in the meantime).

Tesco's response at the time? 'This could result in job losses'.

Nice veiled threat there.

Heres one link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/5342914.stm

Seems they received retrospective planning permission so they know they can get away with it doesn't it?

So the kids in Trafford, if they want greenspace they'll have to travel for it wont they?

Meanwhile over in Huddersfield whats going on there then?....

Hora. This in't news. Tesco have been hell bent on having a giant store in the vicinity for years. Here are Two Tesco stories from your locale

The Tesco Metro store on Manchester Road in Chorlton faced enormous opposition. When they applied for planning permission, all twelve local councilors unanimously voted against the application. It went to appeal with the city council and the planning permission was subsequently granted.

Democracy is brill isn't it? I am absolutely sure no palms were greased during this excellent display of local accountability

Tesco have also discovered another nice little scam as you'll notice at the other end of Barlow Moor Road. Namely buy one of the many large pubs that have recently closed. Result: You don't need planning permission for a change of use as it is already a licensed premises. Thus completely getting round any planning objections

Expect to see this coming to a street near you. Wherever you are in the country

If you want results, STW isn't the way to do it:

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This is going to be very interesting if Tesco do manage to open there. The words 'target' and 'sitting' come to mind.

I know. They got round the planning permision by still operating the petrol station. Saying that, the petrol station before was rank and at least the store is within size (i.e. not ****ing massive).

They've gone from 48,000sq ft to 155,000 now. What gives? Its going to create some interesting traffic issues on match and event days isn't it?!

Additional on the Stockport one- Tescos blamed the 20% oversight on fitters out who got carried away..

Yeah, so no builders work to plans nowadays? 🙄

Tesco are absolutely rutheless, they are currently trying to break into the opticians market, so what do they do
..........free sight test and glasses for £10........running at a loss there then considering a sight test alone in wages and equiptment costs about £60.

.........sell contact lenses at less than cost price of the manufactures..........

once they 'break' the independendants the prices will suddenly become more realistic/over expensive

thank god we dont have one round here yet.....

BTW they employ similar tactics with every market sector they enter

THIS is why i hate tesco

There used to be a nice little greengrocer right next to me. It closed because they "couldn't compete with tesco" Absolute bollox. I shopped there at weekends, but it was closed when i left for work and was closed when i came home, so shopping there during the week wasn't an option and I went to the next nearest place - tesco which was not only not cheaper, the fruit and veg wasn't as good. beoing open when people who work can get there would help and it might only mena staying open an extra hour.

Elfin - what are:

"self-appointed Guardian readers"

Sorry but I have to ask - is one meant to wait until one is invited to read the Guardian. Oops well faux-pas me with a rubber spoon.

Elfin - what are:

"self-appointed Guardian readers"

Dunno. Wasn't me that said it...

Sorry Elfin.

Ernie - what are "self-appointed Guardian readers" ?? Do I need a permit to do the crossword unassisted too ?

Don't know why you're asking him hels, since it's me who wrote it. Try and figure out what this sentence means :

[i]"You know damn well that I have always been opposed to self-appointed Guardian readers telling ordinary people what they should do, say, and think"[/i]

If you can't, just accept that it's a post who's meaning you will never understand.

Ernie - sorry mate - just read it again and it still doesn't make any sense.

But I now realise it's the poor literacy of the writer.

Tesco have annihilated any profit in the supply chain leading to them.. all margin is Channelled to there share holders at the end... one vicious company.. small margins on large volume.. "Every little counts" !

it still doesn't make any sense

Well I guess you'll never know what it means then.

And yes, you can put it down to the "poor literacy of the writer"........iirc, grade 4 in CSE English, so hardly someone who could be described as a "literary giant". The fact that I shop in Tesco, should have been a clue though.

And btw here's a TopTip, if you are going to pull someone up on their literary skills, it's probably best if you took your time to read things correctly, like that, you might figure out who wrote what 💡

So you ever shop in Tesco btw ?

Oh don't worry it's just Ernie. He's as thick as pig-poo 'cos he never went to school like what I done.

He's also so ugly, that he's actually banned in Kyrgyzstan, Italy and the Maldives. In fact, Norway is taking legal action. 🙁

His is the only face that's considered an Act Of Terror under the Geneva Convention. 🙁

His lack of pulchritude caused the demise of the British Car Industry. 🙁

Cyberdyne Systems are always getting bad press.

Apparently they're also very generous in terms of charities and local projects etc.

I saw an interesting statistic recently (can't think where, sorry) that butchers do better if they're near a supermarket. The reason for this was that people were more likely to call in and get "luxuries" when doing there shopping than specifically go out and travel to a butchers.

It would be lovely if we all shopped at butchers and greengrocers like the so called good old days, but truth is, I bet the number of people who do is in the single figures percentage wise. Supermarkets aren't so much competing with small local shops anymore, they're just competing with each other now. If Tesco don't have a store nearby, people will just go to Asda, or Sainsburys, or travel to the next nearest one.

self-appointed Guardian readers

What you talking about ? ........I read the Guardian myself.

I just don't think it gives me the right to tell people what they should do, say, and think. Unlike the politically correct Waitrose-shopping organically sun-dried veggie pasta brigade.

I wish they would crack-on and get it built. The field is an eye-sore, it hasn't been used as a school playing field in the 3 years I've worked over the road (okay I know Tesco's has let that happen)..it has been used as a 'travellers' site and car park when concerts have been on near by. The school still appears to have pretty sizeable grounds. The local shop is a newsagent with ridiculous mark-ups...it even sells stamps individually (even if you ask for a book) at above 'face-value' (it also has a cash machine with a £1.50 withdrawl fee !). It wouldn't be a loss.

But have they now got any big bags after running out of most bags last week nat :cry:ionally.

Might get flamed here but here goes:

I work for Tesco, im a Line Manager, my last 2 positions have been in new stores both opposed by the local community.

The first is a big Extra, the community opposed it to the point on opening day no one went into the store until dinner time, store was open 4 hours before the first customer went in. Now the store is a massive success. The contractors and Tesco, promised to rebuild the high street, this was achieved through having a free car-park next to the high street, re-pathing and building a new town square. Built a by-pass instructed by the council to take the bulk of the traffic round the store. Madness i thought when i went there, if the traffic went up the high street it would of moved more trade to the town.

The second new store a smaller superstore, the one i currently work is was opposed for nearly 20 years!! Finally the council granted permission to build the store but even though the Car park was built on the old playing fields, the football pitches left behind have all 8 been relaid, 2 of them are now all weather pitches with under soil heating, and 1 of them is an astro-turf style pitch. Tesco built the changing rooms and also redeveloped the high street, building several new shops, and re-pathing the entire cross section of where the store is.

As a team of managers we do work in the community and that makes the store the place it is, i know its daft but local fairs based on our carpark, car boots, we go to schools and plant vegetable plots, take hampers to retirement homes etc. I feel we make the store and make it work in the community. We even took the local residents who heavily opposed the store on a tour of the store before we opened, they met our management team we talked about our vision for the future and what we could offer 9 months after opening we invited them back and all but a couple agreed the store was actually good for the community.

Our team are made up of 75% staff who had been out of work for more than 12 months, and who where claiming benefits, our management team are 50% local to the store. Its a new direction, im not saying what they do is right, but we try to make a difference. I know some might flame me for the above, and i know i don't have a proper job, but i do feel that retail has changed and its not all about sales anymore, the work we do in the community is just as important.

Yes, yes there are.
I give you:
BT
Talk Talk
British Gas
Virgin Rail
BAA
Delta Airlines
...
I could go on...

[i]but i do feel that retail has changed and its not all about sales anymore,[/i]

Hehe. Your not really that naive are you ? A business exists to make profit. If the business is [u]perceived [/u] to be kind / sensitive / green / helping local farmers etc etc, then Joe public will think its alright to buy from the corporate monster.
tes is than it ever was with local produce / local sourcing.

iron fist in a velvet glove?

Of course not, i meant within my job role, in the past ive been reviewed purely on sales, and like for like growth etc.. now i can score red in KPI's but if my Leadership skills and community work is green i can score an overall green review.

Thats what i meant by changed, sales will always be on the company agenda.

Tesco regularly deliver to a neighbour. One of their driver's reversed across my private drive and blatted my garden wall, displacing the upper half of the wall by at least a foot and knocking my gate off. He was seen doing it and the jolt as he hit the wall made the whole van judder. He gets out, dusts his bumper off and drives off without leaving any note to let me or anyone else know what he has done. In doing this he committed one of the more serious road traffic act offences of failing to stop after an accident.

I phone the store. They refuse to give me the name of this driver thus aiding and abetting the offence. They tell me their driver admits to getting out to inspect his bumper but says there was no damage to my property. After a struggle and a deal of effort Tesco insurers agree to pay out but they don't have the courtesy to tell me, they tell the builder who provided my estimate. I write complaining about their behaviour, they don't bother replying.

They ain't a very nice company boys and girls.

I think that if Tesco are minded to build a store on your back garden then you are doomed. They are connected, this is a very corrupt country and they will eventual get whatever it is they want.

Resist them people, for they are as evil as HMG

@ernie_lynch - I've done a lot of work with Tesco in the past. My former employer was a major none mechandise supplier to them. The people that work there seem to enjoy it. They have extremely good senior and middle management (hardly surprising given how successful they are). They seem to genuinely get 'it' - it in this case being that if you treat your people properly they will deliver success for you. The community engagement that LMT talks about is one part of this. You can be sure that they wouldn't bother with that if it didn't give a return.

LMT WHY HAVE TESCO RUN OUT OF BAGS, its not a hard question to answer, nobody seems to know.Its damm annoying.

Gritting and salting car parks whats the policy.

Billyboy, people have been know to make malicious claims against retailers for damage etc, you may be quite inocent , but its your word against the drivers unless you have cctv.

TEsco related - i worked for a supermarket (which is now a Tesco) as a storeman when at school. Sat i had to be there 5.30am for the major deliveries. Shop had been built inside a historical wall (Dalgety Bay shop for those that care). I was standing out the back having a sneaky smoke waiting for the freezer delivery to reverse in which he did - completely missing the road and driving straight through said historical wall - it was massive as well. V Funny, bloke barely noticed due to weight of truck. Was a mess and they had to pay for it all to be rebuilt. Very funny morning that one.

I write complaining about their behaviour, they don't bother replying

i used to hate tescos, i wasn't sure why, probably something to do with that huge wittering-fool bloke...

we tried online ordering from them recently and i can confirm that they are better than asda (who appear to employ blind pickers), better than sainsburys and not quite as good as ocado but they charge too much for a service that is not better by the same proportion.

tescos are therefore my new best friends. their shops however are full of peasants and should be avoided.

i hope that answers your question hora, how's your wife bingo?

Ref Project:

Bags are an issue, the main reason is we changed suppliers, the new ones are stronger, there was a watchdog report 8 weeks ago? and the end result was new stronger bags.

The other issue is customers refuse to buy bags for life or even use the free bags again, if more did this then the free bags would be more available for those ad-hoc unplanned trips to the shops. As it stands customers refuse to re-use, which is daft as a few weeks ago most stores gave away thousands of bags for life, but very few have been re-used.

Or another supplier offered them stronger for a lower price?

there was a watchdog report 8 weeks ago? and the end result was new stronger bags.

I saw that Watchdog report......I remember being mortified to learn that Tesco disposable shopping bags weren't the best in the supermarket business. I think Sainsbury's were rated better, and I recall thinking "Oh the shame" 😐

But now you say the end result is that Tesco is getting new stronger bags ? Well this provides yet another example of just how committed Tesco is in satisfying the needs of the British people 🙂

My God, I love Tesco......I think a political party should be set up to fight for greater involvement of Tesco in our lives ..... to establish Britain as the world's first Tescocracy. Maybe have Dame Shirley Porter as an "Evita type" figurehead leader.

Or maybe the supplier was driven so hard on price that the quality dropped?

On a general note I've noticed the quality of meat across Asda and Tesco's has dropped. You seem to get more rind on your bacon, grissle and the sausages on the whole at Tesco's are horrid things.

What also irritates me about Tescos are the signs proclaiming 'value' etc when there really isn't value to shout about.

Morrisons does it much better.

Or maybe the supplier was driven so hard on price that the quality dropped?

No, Tesco reasons for having bags thinner than their competitors was concern for the environment. It's a delicate balancing act satisfying the needs of your customers and the needs of the environment you know, and obviously Tesco took it more seriously than Sainsburys.

Still, in the end the environment lost out ......... which is probably how it should be.

LMT,I have never been give a free bag for life, but to run out of bags nationally is a bit sad.Thanks for the answer, oh and Tesco do seem to try harder to please.

No, Tesco reasons for having bags thinner than their competitors was concern for the environment. It's a delicate balancing act satisfying the needs of your customers and the needs of the environment you know, and obviously Tesco took it more seriously than Sainsburys.

Still, in the end the environment lost out ......... which is probably how it should be.

So land-grab, expand/cover as much as possible is no where near the scale of enviromental waste then?

They have a huge store in central Huddersfield. Why knock down the huge public sports centre and build a new store there then knock down their own store?

Why raise a perfectly good set of buildings and green space to build a 150,000 square foot store?

Doesn't this have some sort of environmental impact?

Nice troll though. 6.5/10.

Tesco built a store in Stockport. It was subsequently found to be alot bigger than they were giving original planning permission for.

Deja vu. They did the same with the massive Tesco Extra in Shrewsbury. Shropshire Council rolled over and said "no problem" to retro planning permission.

http://www.shropshirestar.com/news/2010/11/01/letter-shropshire-council-is-without-conviction-over-planning-rules/

Supermarkets are big enough to bully suppliers and force other retailers into closure. If you're either of those you may have a very different perspective to shoppers or shareholders.

Cheap is King sadly! Tesco rule the roost here. Get over it>