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Ouch!

http://www.channel4.com/news/quentin-tarantino-im-shutting-your-butt-down

Will still be going to see his new movie though, can't wait!!!


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 9:16 am
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comes across as a bit of a nob tbh. Like the Alex Jones v Piers Morgan interview the other day, his inability to answer the question confidently manifests itself in frustration and petty attacks on the interviewer.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 9:27 am
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All good PR for the film though.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 9:34 am
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He came across as a total dick.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 9:37 am
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I thought Krishnan came across as a dick, personally.
Oh I'm so smart cos I work for a "NEWS" programme, not a silly little "MOVIE" programme, so you should answer MY serious questions.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 9:49 am
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if he'd have said "I've been interviewed many times about violent movies and I feel my position is clear, it's not something I want to go over again today" (which I think is what he was saying) and if Krishnan continued [b]then[/b] he could have come out with shutting you butt down, as it is he does come across as being unable to answer the question and has a bit of a petulant tantrum.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 9:55 am
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Hmm, I thought the opposite I thought he (Krishnan) handle the dick quite well, he is such an egotistical prick, I've always hated him and his bloody awful movies. Inglorious Basterd about sums him up.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 9:56 am
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The question seemed to hit a nerve and got Tarantino wound up- you could hear it in his voice. I think it's a pretty stupid question anyway. But it made for a fun interview.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 9:57 am
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Sounds like one eejit interviewing another.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:03 am
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He came across as a total dick.

He always does.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:05 am
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liking his hair - did he get it from MC Cartney?

Struck me a bit like how Brad is when he is asked about drugs - so sick of being asked he gets a bit ranty as he ha smade his view clear so many times

I dont think Tarantino was too OTT tbh and the interviewer should have moved on sooner.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:06 am
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uncomfortable viewing, I don't think any less of either of them though.. I think igrf has come out of this worst IMO

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In fact, I'm not sure that anyone has a right to brand an uptight emotionally unstable person as a 'dick' as others have here.. seems a bit narrow minded to me

A lot of you guys probably have to deal with a range of folk and so are used to a broad bland manner of engagement.. I guess a lot of creative geniuses surround themselves with the type of folk they enjoy, and so aren't necessarily used to dumbing down for the masses..

he looks like the type of guy that finds not screaming quite a challenge


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:07 am
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KGM I thought was quite dignified actually, QT will be far more used to the stagemanaged, fawning US interviewers.

QT's movies are very popular and very violent, he clearly can't articluate a defence of his own actions which is sad cause he is capable of making great movies. - Inglorius Basterds aside which was utter gash.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:07 am
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bloody awful movies

But, but, but.. what about Pulp Fiction? 🙁


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:10 am
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Tarantino, right from the off, has always come across as a complete twonk!

He's made some absolutely blinding films though, and this looks like another one, so who cares? Apart from the type of people who can sit though an entire Newsnight Review without wanting to slowly torture everyone involved in its continued existence


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:11 am
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The interview seemed charged from the start to be honest. I don't know what went before the clip but there is a tone all the way through where QT seems like he is on the defensive and the question about violence and real life just tipped him over.

KGM often has a condescending manner about him anyway, and certainly did in that interview I thought. Maybe QT picked up on that.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:19 am
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[i]bloody awful movies[/i]

Hey, they're never going to appeal to Paul Feig fans 😉


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:22 am
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QT's movies are very popular and very violent,
how are you grading violence? 1 gruesome ear cutting torture scene compared to a death toll in the hundreds, some bond movies resulted in a [b]lot[/b] of dead baddies, don't remember anyone blaming ian fleming for inciting gun violence

(admittedly QTs films seem to have gone into higher mortality rates now)


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:23 am
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Tarantino has a point. He just wants to promote his movie. But then he should have expected some questions about links to violence as it's a hot topic in the US, so he should have had a stock response to roll out and shut down any further probing.
I expect it was the 20th interview he'd done that day and the 20th time he'd been asked about links to violence.
Got a bit bored of his movies recently.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:24 am
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Is there a link with gaming/violent movies and the proliferation of guns?

OF COURSE THERE ****ING IS. Its not just nutjobs that mow down 20+ kids events in schools every so often. Every single day there are countless shooting/deaths in America. Of course Tarantino should answer the question properly. It has relevance.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:30 am
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This is quite an interesting interview, some decent questions from an interview who obviously is a huge fan, but the best bit is about 14 mins in with Samuel L Jackson.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:31 am
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Lot of certainty there hora. Based on what?


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:32 am
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Lot of certainty there hora. Based on what?

He knows more than we do.
Face it and move on.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:36 am
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Not watched the interview, but have seen Django Unchained- both funny & upsetting. Great acting, esp. by Christopher Walz (QT's cameo is his best yet, but still woefully poor). Recommended.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:36 am
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1 gruesome ear cutting torture scene

That is how good he is the ear cut off is not done on screen but no one remembers this.
Are they any more violent than a western or a war movie from 40 years ago?

Is there a link with gaming/violent movies and the proliferation of guns?

OF COURSE THERE **** IS

The wild west so much more peaceful largely because TV and films had not been invented


 
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OF COURSE THERE **** IS.

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Posted : 11/01/2013 10:36 am
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I think he's a bit Emperor's New Clothes.

Pulp Fiction was alright. Admittedly I've (somehow) never seen Reservoir Dogs. However, I thought Kill Bill was some of the most pretentious w@nkery that it's ever been my misfortune to watch.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:38 am
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However, I thought Kill Bill was some of the most pretentious w@nkery that it's ever been my misfortune to watch
I didn't like it, assumed you had to like the genre and have seen loads of old films to get a load of references/in jokes.

That is how good he is the ear cut off is not done on screen but no one remembers this.
yeah a lot of stuff happens off screen but you still know what's going on and people still get offended/go all queasy


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:42 am
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Is there a link with gaming/violent movies and the proliferation of guns?
several countries have lots of guns* without americas level of gun crime, millions of people play/watch violent movies/games and don't feel the need to pop a cap in yo ass. Think there may be other reasons.

*but yeah I still think less guns is a good move


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:45 am
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Pulp Fiction was alright. Admittedly I've (somehow) never seen Reservoir Dogs. However, I thought Kill Bill was some of the most pretentious w@nkery that it's ever been my misfortune to watch.

Everything he's ever done, maybe with the exception of Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction have been genre pieces, made up from scenes and camera angles/shots often ripped straight from their source material. He's a massive film geek and all of his films reflect that. He can get a bit too far up his own arse at times and his films could often be tighter (except Jackie Brown, that really is a masterpiece imo) but they're always entertaining. I guess he's a bit Marmite?


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:45 am
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On your basis then Hora, next time anyone gets pulled for speeding, they can legitimately blame Lewis Hamilton?


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:48 am
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[i]I guess he's a bit Marmite?[/i]

The best things always are (except Marmite).


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:52 am
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It's a very old point but I think that it's still relevant, that some people will be susceptible to violence they see in images, films, video games etc and may as a result act out what they see but these are people who would have been inclined to act out violence regardless.

Do we have an outright ban on screen violence on the basis that some people who are already inclined to act out violenty may possibly act out something they have seen on screen?


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:56 am
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outright ban on the general public voicing uneducated and poorly formed opinions, that's what makes me feel violent.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:58 am
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On your basis then Hora, next time anyone gets pulled for speeding, they can legitimately blame Lewis Hamilton?

Taking your strangled-analogy.
If I've just watched The Fast and the Furious in the cinema, really enjoyed it and jumped into my Mums Vauxhall Corsa to drive home would I drive that bit quicker?


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:59 am
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Is that QT's answer?


 
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If I've just watched The Fast and the Furious in the cinema, really enjoyed it and jumped into my Mums Vauxhall Corsa to drive home would I drive that bit quicker?

If you were an idiot possibly yes.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 11:00 am
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I didn't mean Hora's post 😕


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 11:01 am
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(except Jackie Brown, that really is a masterpiece imo)

Yes, that's my favourite too - although it got a bit of a mixed reception at the time.

It was interesting him talking about boxers and 'my time', etc. I didn't like Inglorious Basterds at all. Not one little bit. It will be interesting to watch this one to see if my assumption that he's on a downward curve is true.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 11:02 am
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If we've just watched Brokeback mountain in the cinema, really enjoyed it and jumped into my Mums Vauxhall Corsa to drive home would I get home without experiencing man love?

Perhaps just a quick fumble eh ?

Thats your logic and its deeply flawed


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 11:02 am
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Incidents like the recent school shootings in America have got everything to do with deep seated mental illness, alienation and marginalisation in society, and eff all to do with Tarantino films, or Grand Theft Auto

The trouble is that as a society we don't want to hear that. We want easy answers and readily available scapegoats


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 11:04 am
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Junkyard, if you watched decent gay porn I bet you'd experience ball-tingle.


 
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Incidents like the recent school shootings in America have got everything to do with deep seated mental illness, alienation and marginalisation in society, and eff all to do with Tarantino films, or Grand Theft Auto

The trouble is that as a society we don't want to hear that. We want easy answers and readily available scapegoats

it's time to get off the internet binners, that's way too sensible.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 11:07 am
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Junkyard, if you watched decent gay porn I bet you'd experience ball-tingle.

I defer to your greater experience in this area

The male stripper in the gay bar did not cure my Sunday morning hangover. Watching his bits bounce and dangle was not a very sexual experience in all honesty.
never seen a gay porn film personally.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 11:11 am
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If theres no link at all between violence towards men or women in film why do we have 12, 15 or 18 certs? Why are some films made to re-edit?

The British film board deems youth's to be impressionable. Same with American censor boards..

Of course they are just dodering old idiots.

If violent movies don't influence children why not let your young daughters etc sit and watch a movie with you? Violent rape scenes in movies- why not let your 12yr son watch these? Its something you can discuss after about human nature.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 11:17 am
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If I buy your argument hora, that screen violence can be directly linked to people imitating what they see, what would you suggest the solution or at least part solution is?


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 11:18 am
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If theres no link at all between violence towards men or women in film why do we have 12, 15 or 18 certs?

Because a 12 year old watching horror films, or someone getting raped, would find it deeply disturbing. You twonk. Not because the BBFC think they're going to nip out and immediately reproduce it

Otherwise my daughter would spend her life on a broomstick playing quidditch


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 11:20 am
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My solution isn't anything- its QT. He can't get angry or irritable when the interviewer is asking a relevant and linked question to his films.


 
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If violent movies don't influence children why not let your young daughters etc sit and watch a movie with you?

I can assure you it's not because I think they will go and copy what they see. Some movie violence is disturbing and unpleasant and just not suitable for children. I wouldn't let a 6 year old watch a hardcore pornographic movie, but not because I'd be afraid that they'd be trying to 69 a teacher.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 11:22 am
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Binners we control what are children see at a rate. This is to let them understand boundaries/limits as they grow in a controlled manner. They learn what is right and wrong so that when they ARE confront with brutal things they have ground rules (almost brainwashed) into them from a young age to help them understand the basics of right and wrong and apply to anything that may be outlandish.

Yes or no?

BTW I watched alot of James Bonds movies from a very young age at the cinema. My Dad MADE the Cinema(s) let me in with him 😳


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 11:22 am
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If theres no link at all between violence towards men or women in film why do we have 12, 15 or 18 certs?

I dont think mine would go to school and kill everyone if he watched an 18 film however it is unwise for reasons other than ones you suggest

I dont actually think anyone needs this system or the reasons explaining to them.


 
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My solution isn't anything- its QT. He can't get angry or irritable when the interviewer is asking a relevant and linked question to his films.

But you clearly believe there is a link?


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 11:23 am
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But you clearly believe there is a link?

Would it be outlandish not to think there is a link?


 
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Binners we control what are children see at a rate. This is to let them understand boundaries/limits as they grow in a controlled manner. They learn what is right and wrong so that when they ARE confront with brutal things they have ground rules (almost brainwashed) into them from a young age to help them understand the basics of right and wrong and apply to anything that may be outlandish.

But if we accept that a child is prone to imitating screen violence that doesn't mean that it follows true that adults with formed minds are prone to doing the same thing.


 
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eff all to do with Tarantino films, or Grand Theft Auto

have you ever played Call of Duty online and listened the comments made by the kids playing? some of the stuff the American kids come out with when playing Deathmatch compared to other nations is worrying. can you be sure they are just acting out fantasies?


 
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Would it be outlandish not to think there is a link?

Not completely outlandish but not supported in any way by the most respected psychologists or academics in the world.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 11:26 am
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Binners we control what are children see at a rate.

Indeed we do. But not for fear of them reproducing it? At what age would you suggest that its safe to watch something without wanting to run out and immitate it? 12, 15, 18 or never?


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 11:26 am
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So going back to QT- the jumped up ****. Why did he get upset? Tosser.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 11:30 am
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Probably because he's really really bored of lazy half-wits making unfounded links between his films, and stuff completely unconnected with them, so they can whip up some form of faux outrage


 
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My parents were very lax when it came to allowing me to watch violent films when I was very young. I remember watching Robocop and The Terminator when i was about 6 years old. Not very responsible of my parents I admit but I wasn't inclined to copy them or grow into an adult obsessed with violence or aggression.

Now you would argue that my own personal experience has little bearing on the wider picture but psychologists would argue that the fact that one individual who watched violent movies was not affected by them and therefore not inclined to imitate them in any way is just as relevant as the individual who watched the Childs Play films and murdered a child by copying the images they saw.

You have to have an inclination to act in certain way regardless.


 
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Tarantino makes films for lazy half wits, as well as being one himself. 🙂


 
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Is there a link with gaming/violent movies and the proliferation of guns?

Since I started playing Black on the PS I've found myself staring at upstairs windows looking for the RPG shooter! And I really don;t like the M16 that much.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 11:44 am
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[i]Tarantino makes films for lazy half wits[/i]

I would reply to that, but can't think of a response and can't be bothered to try.


 
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can't think of a response

Nah, seriously, he hasn't made a decent film in years. The last thing I watched was Inglorious Basterds, when it was on TV - just formulaic nonsense. Yes, early on, he made some great stuff, but he just hit on a recipe and re-hashed it over and over again. And manages to come across as more and more of a dick as he gets older. Still, people seem to flock to his films in the hope that he might do something different (or maybe in the hope that he hasn't), though that's no marker of quality these days.


 
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On your basis then Hora, next time anyone gets pulled for speeding, they can legitimately blame Lewis Hamilton?

Not quite the point^^ but I would say Yes you could;What blame does not do do is absolve you of the crime, that's called personal choice. There is almost certainly a link otherwise why would all those car makers etc spend millions of pounds on racing if it didn't sell their fast cars - No Vauxhauls in F1.

Does Lionel Messi not inspire people to buy Barca shirts and then do tricks at 5 a side...


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 11:59 am
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If I did have any criticism of his films, it would be the lack of exploding helicopters, car chases and Adam Sandler


 
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Nah, seriously, he hasn't made a decent film in years.

Bit harsh? IB isn't his best work, or a perfect film, but its a long way from not being a 'decent film'. Some great dialogue, some great casting and acting from the stars he directed? OK, Death Proof wasn't too good unless you really like his dialogue, but the car chase at the end was superb.


 
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Possibly a bit harsh, yes. They're watchable for sure. But, given what he started out with and the money he can spend, I'd expect better than what are mostly heist films with a bit of devil may care dialogue and lots of shootin' an' fightin'.


 
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apparently the US Vice President is busy talking to Hollywood movie makers about violent films.
I thought he should be trying to sort out the gun problem.

I've watched all of Tarantino's films. I'm a big fan in fact (and not a half-wit either. mostly). I've not murdered anyone though.


 
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Win win situation . Tarrantino gets extra publicity for his film , interviewer gets extra publicity for his programme . An interview with confrontational overtones is better viewing that's why it's been posted on here for example .


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 12:24 pm
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Is that why Lance chose Oprah?


 
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I'd have preferred to see Lance interviewed by Graham Norton. In that tippy-up chair thing.


 
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have you ever played Call of Duty online and listened the comments made by the kids playing?
18 cert isn't it? kids probably shouldn't be playing stuff like that it's bad for them and leads to acts of violence and lots of swearing by me when they kick my ass.

video games don't make you violent, 12 year olds humiliating you may tho


 
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I'd have preferred to see Lance interviewed by Graham Norton. In that tippy-up chair thing.

Ha! How long do you think he'd last 🙂


 
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Is that why Lance chose Oprah?

Perhaps Oprah chose Lance


 
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[i]I'd have preferred to see Lance interviewed by Graham Norton. [/i]

I actually think that'd be brilliant. Graham Norton does the 'acting dumb but actually incredibly quick' thing very well, I reckon he'd skewer Lancey with some little quip 🙂


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 12:45 pm
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[i]Tarrantino gets extra publicity for his film , interviewer gets extra publicity for his programme[/i]

I know which one I'll be watching.


 
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If violent movies don't influence children why not let your young daughters etc sit and watch a movie with you? Violent rape scenes in movies- why not let your 12yr son watch these? Its something you can discuss after about human nature.

i was not shielded from the horrors of the world as a youngster and i grew up as someone who has the ability to support victims of violent rape, mental illness and so forth. i firmly believe the early exposure to the darker side of the world left me able to confront such stuff without it phasing me.

i've also watched a lot of people being killed in films and managed to go 28 years without ever feeling the need to even punch somebody.

films where you watch somebody acting something is one thing, being in control of a character than can kill is another i think, computer games as they become more realistic are probably more of a threat to anybody of a certain disposition towards violence. you could argue they allow some to act out fantasies virtually and that's enough to stop it spilling over into the classroom (so to speak) but i do think there's going to be generations of people a lot more comfortable with the idea of inflicting deliberate harm on others. as warfare develops into a near simulation anyway (pressing buttons behind a screen instead of running over the trenches) i can't really see it as a good thing.


 
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Watched Django last night. Bloody brilliant, one of his best.


 
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D*ckhead. Interviewer handled it well.


 
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