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Righto, I've engaged a fitter, just working out dates now.
Still haven't found a stove, but currently looking at a Hunter Herald 5 slimline, as It's got the double door wider front that I'm looking for.
Are there any other similar stoves you can recommend?
Don't get bogged down. pick one you like the look of. They all get hot.
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I liked the squirrel straight away. Then went looking and umming and arring for 18 months. Ended up buying a squirrel and wasting 2 winters of fireside sitting
Well as I've contracted the guy I don't have 18 months! I may well go for the Hunter, just wondering what others experiences were.
I like the squirrel we have , burns wood heats room .
It came with the house so was not a choice I had to make , do like the fact it's multi fuel
Check that you can burn wood in your area.
Multi fuel is a good call. Keep it ticking over at night or when at work with smokeless, then use wood when you are around for a nice flame.
Chilli Penguin in our lounge is lit from October to March. Doesn't go out. Central heating only on for an hour each end of the day.
Have look at www.chillipenguin.co.uk their stoves are great, we have two. Been using wood-burners for years and had various make from Dunsley to Hwam and a fair few in between. Have been seriously impressed with the Chilli Penguin. There made in Wales which surprised me but then that's a bonus.
Edit beaten to the Chilli recommenation by Mary, good stove choice.
Keep it ticking over at night
You run the risk of increasing levels of tar in the flu which can lead to chimney fires. I wouldn't recommend this.
They all get hot.
They do, but some keep the glass clearer than others and are more controllable.
OP, you've got a couple of options to consider:
wood only or multifuel (I'd go the latter as you can then use coal if required)
Cast iron or steel - Cast retains the heat a bit longer after you stop adding fuel, but takes longer to heat up initially and there is potential for cracks to develop. Steel will not crack and heats up quicker.
Also check whether there are able to level the stove front to back and side to side, and that you can adjust the door to allow for compensation of the door seal compressing.
Oh, and give consideration to used stoves off eBay, I've bought three used Clearview stoves and after a few hours work with a wire brush, new paint and seals they look and perform like new.
Also using wood then coal, then wood eats cheap steel liners apparently. Something to do with moisture from the wood and sulphur from the coal combining to give your flue a facial sulphur steam...
Esse in barnoldswick do a double door version of the esse one, esse 100dd and esse 100dd-se. I went to ashpan in Gisburn and she seemed willing to do a discount (I was looking at other makes, however)
@B.A.Nana - I remember that you said you are in Carleton - have you tried Ilkely Stoves? We got ours from Keighley Stoves but they are no longer in business so have got spares/replacements from the Ilkley shop.
In use: make sure you clean the ash pan out and from around the guards otherwise the lack of air-flow can buckle them. Once I've got the fire lit I'll fully load the stove to get a strong fire going, this gets the stove up to temperature and emitting heat into the room a lot quicker. Once this is done then I only need to add the occasional log to keep things going. I'll probably use more than 50% of a night's fuel in that initial charge
Check that you can burn wood in your area.
All modern wood burners are fine for Smoke Free Zones.
They do, but some keep the glass clearer than others and are more controllable.
Well unless you install several and run them for a few months under the exact same conditions, I don't see how you'd be able to make a choice on A vs B.
Slight hijack but mt summer house/man cave build will start in the spring and I am looking at a woodburner for that. Really want the smallest woodburner I can get. It will be insulated so I wont need much.
Any recommendations?
I have a squirrel and like the fact that it's multi-fuel.
Beyond that, I have nothing to add.
[url= http://www.whatstove.co.uk/ ]Have a look here[/url] - bearing in mind that generally everybody thinks their stove is the best and rarely admit to buying one that isn't quite a good as they'd hoped!
We had Charnwood country 6 in our old house, good stove, multifuels
we have akwayshad multi as wood burns quick and you nee a supply, own wood land?
Shopping around for one now for current house, drawn to the islsnd all night burner caoable plus contemporary looks
we have akwayshad multi as wood burns quick and you nee a supply, own wood land?
We bought a multi-fuel one, but just burn wood. Get through 3 cubic metres a year roughly which gets delivered once a year.
edit, looks like we get through less than that, last delivery was Nov last year and still got a load left. Although it was a very mild winter last year.
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We recently had a Waterford Stanley 'Lismore' fitted and we are very happy with it. Granted it's one with a back boiler, which is not what you are looking for, but it is lovely. Chosen by the wife predominately because it was 'pretty'. Have a smaller one sans back boiler to go in the snug.
edit - still haven't figured out how to post pictures!
We have an ESSE stove which has been faultless since it was installed - they do a few nice looking double door ones.
A couple of questions fir those with a stove - is the room in which your stove is vented? If so where in relation to the stove is the vent?
I have a load of engineered oak flooring which had to come up due to a burst heating pipe - I was thinking of chopping into kindling - is there anything that should stop from burning this in the stove?
Thanks everyone, a couple of questions :-
When choosing the right output do you look at the Nominal Output or the top end of the projected range? (I.e. 4.5-8Kw)
Also, if I choose a multifuel model, do I need to reconfigure it every time I use a different fuel or is it a case of just sticking in coal or wood?
This is what I'm currently looking at :-
https://www.hunterstoves.co.uk/product-range/traditional/herald-8-slimline.html
mutlifuel q... just sticking in whatever.
are you asking about outputs as you want to be under 5kw?
I've been told that 5kw is 'about rights for the room size, but we have a 9ft high ceiling to consider. The stove I linked is a nominal 5kw but with a top end of 8kw.
Do you HAVE to to run them at full belt?
I've been told that 5kw is 'about rights for the room size, but we have a 9ft high ceiling to consider.
Our ceilings are 9' (standard Victorian terrace) and we have a 5kW burner downstairs (which is all open plan). It's enough to heat the living room nicely (1/3 of floor space), but the kitchen (10m+ away) is still quite cool (which is fine).
All modern wood burners are fine for Smoke Free Zones.
No, they're not. For smoke control areas, you need to buy a stove that is listed by Defra as "an exempt appliance". See https://smokecontrol.defra.gov.uk/appliances.php
Ransos is right, you can't burn wood and just claim it's OK in a smokeless zone, you can't modify any old stove and say it's DEFRA exempt because you made the modification. ( DEFRA exempt and DEFRA approved basically mean the same thing, one is the correct terminology, other is what you usually see used in brochures and on the sales floor as it's kind of easier understood by your average punter).
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@B.A.Nana - I remember that you said you are in Carleton - have you tried Ilkely Stoves?
No I haven't been there. Mine is an insurance job, house in Bingley was flooded on boxing day. I've already bought my new stove and hearth and it's all ready to go in, but at the rate things are progressing probably more like January before it finally goes in.
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Just had a Dean Forge W5 installed - it is great! It is shallower and wider than most. Nice big viewing window.
No, they're not. For smoke control areas, you need to buy a stove that is listed by Defra as "an exempt appliance". See https://smokecontrol.defra.gov.uk/appliances.php
Ok, you'll struggle to find a new model which isn't approved.
All modern stoves, with dual burn compartments, meet the requirements, hence those lists are 100s of stoves long.
Date for the first phase - fireplace knock out - is set, just need to choose a stove.
I'm torn between two models, both Hunter Herald units but one is a larger capacity than the other - although various websites seem to vary wildly on projected outputs. Neither unit requires an airbrick but there appears to be one currently blocked up, that should (in theory) be revealed by opening up the fireplace, it's right behind where the stove will sit.
Has anyone gone with a larger than needed stove and regretted it?
Has anyone gone with a larger than needed stove and regretted it?
The regret comes sometimes when it's snowing outside and you have a massive snow free zone around your house and you're sitting in your underpants with the patio door open just to let some cold air in !
Given MsD can be shivering when it's warm enough for shorts I can't see that being a problem!
muddydwarf: this is worth a read if you've not seen it already:
http://www.stovefittersmanual.co.uk/articles/what-size-wood-burning-stove-for-my-room/
Ok, you'll struggle to find a new model which isn't approved.All modern stoves, with dual burn compartments, meet the requirements, hence those lists are 100s of stoves long.
That's simply not true: I had a looking at a leading stove supplier's website, and "Defra approved" stoves comprised about 50% of their total stock.
Thanks for that link NedRapier - given me something to think about.
As both models are slimline versions with wide but narrow firebox's then I'm leaning towards the larger model
https://www.hunterstoves.co.uk/herald-8-slimline.html
This one, for a room approx 16 foot square by 9ft high.
Any thoughts?
I have Hunter stove and like it - quite good value for money and simple lines.
There seems to be a consensus that stoves are best run at a reasonable rate to avoid blackening the glass and partial burn substances building up in the flue.
Hope you enjoy it whatever you get!
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This one, for a room approx 16 foot square by 9ft high.
8 kW for a small room. I'd have thought you'd be fine with 5 kW.
Well I thought so too, but it's a small fire box and even the manufacturer claims a nominal 5kw for the herald 8 slimline model.
Its better to run a small stove hard than try and get a big one to just tickover - its important to get the flue good and hot to prevent tar build up.
don't burn wood, obolete technology, buy hotmax heat logs. cheaper than wood, way more heat output and cleaner.
and for what its worth i live with a large wood at the bottom of my garden and have access to all the fallen wood i need, which i used to do, but since discovering hotmax two winters ago my chainsaw lies unused.
don't burn wood, obolete technology, buy hotmax heat logs. cheaper than wood
Look way more expensive to me. I pay about £60 per cubic metre for HW logs delivered. £300 for a tonne of Hotmax (50x 20kg bags).