[Closed] SupergrassTrackWorld

Did he even inform the dvla? Don't you have to do that yourself if advised not to drive by the doctor?

Great you are trying to sort this, haven't really got any suggestions for you.

Although wouldn't you just put the last address on the form? Probably just to identify him.

Simine

Damn, I was hoping this was going to be about some guitar-playing monkeys.

Errr, it's sort of irrelevant if he has told the DVLA or not since it sounds very much like they would tell him he mustn't drive (Obviously we don't know the details of his condition), and that his insurance would be invalid. This is still the case if a doctor has advised you not to drive. It sounds like he should have informed the DVLA himself, but ultimately it's still illegal to drive if you have been advised not to. Therefore he's 'just' driving with an invalid license / insurance which I'd have thought was a matter for the police, not the DVLA.

Surely he can't have "no fixed abode" and still be working? I don't suppose there is any way you can talk to him rather than just getting him arrested? Softly softly etc?

*IANAL but I am a doctor and this sort of thing crops up from time to time.

I also came to this thread expecting band chat, but at least you're hoping someone is 'Caught By The Fuzz'

That's pretty much how I read it superficial, although it would appear until the police have word from the DVLA that that aren't interested...

I don't think there's any of the driving population at work that haven't voiced our displeasure to him (although other non-driving members are happy enough to accept lifts!) with regards to him sharing our roadspace. I wonder whether a slight exageration in the report may help shift the fuzz into gear - I'd have assumed they would have liked a case with the detective work done for them.

That's pretty much how I read it superficial, although it would appear until the police have word from the DVLA that that aren't interested...

I don't think the police can rely solely on the DVLA reporting things - that doesn't make sense to me at all. If the worst case scenario occurs, and he hits someone as a result of a seizure behind the wheel, then the the police have failed to investigate something which someone has previously reported. I would have thought that would be completely indefensible for the police force. Of course, it would be even more indefensible if more than one person reports it - perhaps it's worth getting some other work colleagues to file a complaint as well?

It's like me reporting a neighbour for having an illegal handgun, but the police saying they won't investigate because he's not on the national gun register.

Surely he can't have "no fixed abode" and still be working?

that's a pretty ****ing harsh point of view...

To clarify on that, he is apparently staying with relatives, but sharing the load or something like that...

Although it does beg the question of where his payslips are ending up...?

So what has all this got to do with you? Sounds like he's got enough on his plate without some curtain twitcher trying to stitch him up.

I was hoping it'd be something like this:

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jambourgie - Member

So what has all this got to do with you? Sounds like he's got enough on his plate without some curtain twitcher trying to stitch him up.

Depends where you stand on people having seizures while driving, really. I'm all for it, adds a bit of excitement to the daily commute but I can see why some folks wouldn't approve

Sounds like he's got enough on his plate without some curtain twitcher trying to stitch him up.

I see where you're coming from with this but if the fella is suffering from seizures that can't currently be controlled by medication then he shouldn't be in control of a vehicle. He was supposed to inform the DVLA when he had the first seizure and then you need to have a period of time free of any seizures before you get your licence back. I can't remember if it's one or two years seizure free but I'm pretty sure that its not a few months.

that's a pretty **** harsh point of view...

Although it does beg the question of where his payslips are ending up...?

He was supposed to inform the DVLA when he had the first seizure and then you need to have a period of time free of any seizures before you get your licence back. I can't remember if it's one or two years seizure free but I'm pretty sure that its not a few months.

One year seizure free if you only previously had seizures in your sleep. 3 years without seizures if you've had one whilst awake.

We had a friend who had seizures, didn't tell GP, didn't tell DVLA etc because she didn't want to lose her job.

Ended up having a seizure whilst driving and wrote her car off (fortunately she only had slight injuries and no other vehicles involved), told insurer etc she had a foot/brake confusion moment. Still didn't tell DVLA but told my wife what had happened.

Two weeks later she got a letter from dvla and was convinced it was my wife who'd shopped her. Although by this time she was in the process of divorcing her husband and living with someone else so everyone else thought it was the soon to be ex-husband who'd dobbed her in. She did stop driving.

Thing is, OP, even if his licence is revoked who's to say he won't just keep chancing it and driving anyway?

Could you and your colleagues not offer some support and take turns giving him lifts too and from work - something practical that means he still keeps his job but doesn't feel he needs to drive to do so? Hopefully he'll soon be able to get accommodation near where he works and return to cycling/walking.

see where you're coming from with this but if the fella is suffering from seizures that can't currently be controlled by medication then he shouldn't be in control of a vehicle. He was supposed to inform the DVLA when he had the first seizure and then you need to have a period of time free of any seizures before you get your licence back. I can't remember if it's one or two years seizure free but I'm pretty sure that its not a few months.

This. It's a year seizure free generally.

If he's having uncontrolled grand mal seizures, then he represents a serious risk to the public (and himself) when he gets behind the wheel.

Props for taking this on Lerk. Too many people would shrug their shoulders and argue that it's not their problem nor should they stop this guy going about his irresponsible business.

Me on the other hand, I also hope the gets Caught By The Fuzz. Alright, by the Grace of God he might not cause an accident but then again he might. And it would have been entirely preventable. When one is driving a Moving vehicle one has a responsibility to Mary, Lenny and Richard III alike.

I think wwaseas has hit on the moral solution

Jon Taylor - Member

Me on the other hand, I also hope the gets Caught By The Fuzz.

I think we need to ask him What Went Wrong (In Your Head)

When I spoke to the local constabulary, they just told me to make sure my employer informed the DVLA, even though I told them of the location of the vehicle and the time when he would be leaving work to drive.

How about putting it in writing to the police (and dvla?). It's easy for someone on the desk to fob you off but if you put it in writing then there is a record of them being aware of the issue and choosing not to investigate or take action.

One thing- its NOT 'grassing'. Thats something you do at school over something juvenile.

This bloke has the real opportunity to pass out at the wheel and take out children walking to school on the pavement, a cyclist(s), other motorists etc.

Especially if he has a seizure and presses the accelerator in a built up area near a bus stop/school etc.