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I too think about it regular, things just seem too much sometimes and I know I blow small things out of perspective.
But, I also think why should I ? I've got so much to do and see, hopefully, before I snuff it.
I'm defiantly a glass half full person and a while ago I lost the plot and ended up on pills for anxiety. It still plays a big part in my life daily but I refused to get hooked on pills as some workmates told me they are not a permanent solution.
Without any disrespect to anyone who takes them.
2 things will never leave me. My best mate said " people makes mistakes, why do we have erasers " & " if you have a broken arm, you'd go and get it plastered so why be ashamed of getting help "
These pulled me through. Like I said, I still get worked up about nothing and I know I suffer anxiety, but as long as I can manage it by either turning the tunes in the car up or getting out on the bike, I will remain OK
Think I mean glass half empty lol you know always negative
Simmy. Sometimes pills are the right answer. Have another chat with your GP. Please don't listen to workmates. They may mean well but may not know what they are talking about.
I don't know what I'm talking about either but a trained GP will know how to proceed.
A shockingly bad choice of word!
I guess so.. a mate's son hung hung himself earlier this year 🙁
I refused to get hooked on pills as some workmates told me they are not a permanent solution.
your mates are correct to a certain degree, but you shouldn't be worried about getting hooked on prescription medication in the UK.. there are only a handful of meds that are addictive, and GPs are very restricted about prescribing them..
certainly any long term prescription would not be for an addicitive medication
(I don't take any medication myself but have done in the past during times of acute illness)
Yunki dont be quick to say all GPs are good. It took me years to find the only practice that CARE about patient care
Aye.. maybe you're right Hora
If I'm honest I'd recommend coke and hookers first anyway
Although I cant say anything positive as such. Imagine you are 45 and single. 29, you are bloody young.
You know this comment reminds me of some of unintentionally hurtful things that people can say. When saying something in public you might want to consider how other people might react. I'm not 45 yet, but I'm not far off, and whilst I've never actively considered killing myself, I have in the past had very serious thoughts along the lines that my not being around wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.
I'm so surprised that such a large proportion of STW members have considered suicide, when everyone on here is so easy going, light hearted and laid back. Live and let live sorts.
Tbh, I do think that there are a large portion of society that are not fully happy in their lives, there is a tendency to put on a brave face and get on with it; speaking from my own personal perspective! My friends all seem to think I've done really well but there are 1 or 2 really good friends who know the truth and keep a watchful eye on me, even to the point where I'll just get a friendly 2 minute phone call. Seems easier to talk to people on here about this than it has been to talk to anyone else, it may be down to the fact that I cannot see your faces or it may be down to the fact that you are strangers to me.
Work hasn't actually affected the situation nor has money, I have a very good job and a good income, my situation really stems from family issues (not close in the slightest) and my breakup from my wife. Basically she decided to announce to me at my best friends wedding that she didn't want to be married to me anymore. Basically she said I had let myself go (12st and 32" waist), I've apparently got a massive OCD complex (I like a clean house and I'm house proud, yes I did majority of the cleaning), oh and to top it off I'm boring (we had just got back from Morzine and just had a week in Scotland; had a right laugh on both occasions). I've been told by impartials that she is full of $h1t but it doesn't stop you thinking about such hurtful things. Worst bit of it all is that she won't let me see my beloved boxer (like a child to me), I di everything for that dog so obviously that is a massive change in my life!
I am "hanging in there" (actually that made me laugh), taking each day as it comes and keeping busy, job interview tomorrow for something else to focus on, higher position no doubt with increased pressure but I definitely need a new challenge. Need to speak to the ex regarding the house and the divorce, part of me thinks it better to ignore the situation as it really does affect me but the other part knows I need a complete clean break. I'm finding that I'm definitely riding alot more now, getting out on the moors with my music on and just riding for miles certainly takes your mind off things, only issue with that is it was a shared interest with the ex but one that I enjoy so much!
when everyone on here is so easy going, light hearted and laid back. Live and let live sorts.
"Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil."
Seems easier to talk to people on here...
Of course. Always far easier to talk openly to someone who you have no association with. They have no expectations of you, and nothing you do or say will change the view they have of you, simply because they don't already have a view of you.
Worst bit of it all is that she won't let me see my beloved boxer (like a child to me),
That is a bit OTT, she obviously has or had someone else in mind, I'm wondering if that didn't work out either, or why would she be wanting to hurt you more if you've loved her and set her free? I think that is outrageous, separating a man from his dog, kids well whatever they can argue the point, but dogs are captive, have you considered a spot of dognapping?
Ignoring the bullshit you read here on anti faith threads, you do really need to form a belief...
There are thousands (if not millions) of depressed people worldwide (myself included) who have found relief though medication and counselling without having to resort to any belief system. Belief in oneself is the key.
...some workmates told me they are not a permanent solution.
I was diagnosed with Acute Bipolar Disorder a few years ago. I'm 47. I'd suffered since early childhood. I take daily medication, and I will until my dying day. I'm perfectly happy with that.
have you considered a spot of dognapping?
Yes I consider it all the time.
She's actually with another guy that she works with, she works away a couple of nights a week and works at the same office he works at when she is away. Claims nothing happened prior to us splitting which I see as a load of twiddle. How do you come out of an 8 1/2 year relationship to start seeing someone 1 month after and has been seeing him since September. 2+2=4 in this situation methinks. Actually bumped into her on NYE coming out of a pub with this bloke and the dog. Completely messed me up, more to do with the dog as she wouldn't even let me touch him!! I was with a couple of pals and they made certain that I didn't go home, tbh it was probably best that they didn't.
I was on medication about 12 years ago after I got kicked out of my parents house (I must come across as a right nob, I'm definitely not, it was more my step father than mother but still left a very bitter taste), they worked for a while but I decided to stop taking them and actually felt much better about myself. Here we are again though, debating going to the GP's but at the same time I am never keen on AD's.
blame the govenment, blame society, blame women?!? but thats not how depression works is it?
if your down because there is something horribly wrong that is a reaction, depression is being down because there is nothing specifically wrong but your day to day is unbearably sad.
tomorrow is another day though, some of my best tomorrows have come from nowhere during my deepest depression.
ive always liked this parable when considering the future;
A father and his son owned a farm. They did not have many animals, but they did own a horse.
One day the horse ran away.
“How terrible, what bad luck,” said the neighbours.
“Good luck, bad luck, who knows?” replied the farmer.
Several weeks later the horse returned, bringing with him four wild mares.
“What marvellous luck,” said the neighbours.
“Good luck, bad luck, who knows?” replied the farmer.
The son began to learn to ride the wild horses, but one day he was thrown and broke his leg.
“What bad luck,” said the neighbours.
“Good luck, bad luck, who knows?” replied the farmer.
The next week the army came to the village to take all the young men to war.
The
farmer’s son was still disabled with his broken leg, so he was spared. “Good luck, bad luck, who knows?”
to anyone on here feeling the pinch, your welcome to pm me. im a stranger with no qualifications in this field other than my own experience but ill listen, and sometimes thats all it takes
Re the selfish act thing, for me, when I have been feeling my lowest ( and I must add a disclaimer that I have never been genuinely suicidal but the thought has been at the edge of my mind once or twice), the suicide option actually seems the opposite of selfish, as all I can see is what a burden I am to others and that their lives would be easier without me. Obviously that is completely ridiculous thinking, but that is what being depressed is like.
Simmy, sometimes pills are the right answer, they can put you in the right place to accept the other help there is out there. Without the pills, my CBT course would have been pointless.
as mentioned above, the biggest increase is actually for men 49-59, its just that young men are much less likely to die of other things (eg heart probs)so the suicide figures stand out.
the best thing i ever did to combat suicidal feelings was get rid of the TV
the best thing i ever did to combat suicidal feelings was get rid of the TV
it is definitely a depressant, kind of sucks you into a torpor and mocks you at the same time--
aguesty1 - MemberShe's actually with another guy that she works with, she works away a couple of nights a week and works at the same office he works at when she is away. Claims nothing happened prior to us splitting which I see as a load of twiddle.
Yes that's usually the way it goes, she was almost certainly involved with him whilst still with you, women rarely jump ship without an alternative in play. I'm still puzzled by her attitude to the dog, it leads me to guess the other guy is married and she can't have him all to herself, anyway screw her she's a bad un, you're best out of it, move on, one day you'll look back on this as a blessing.
Find someone else, I have to say I think I'd probably nick the dog, assuming you have the wherewithal to keep it somewhere, possession is probably 9 parts of the law and you can always say it's yours, you bought it, or if you are really looking for vengeance there are lots of not very nice things you could do involving allegations of cruelty and the RSPCA, but personally I'd just grab the dog and set all that aside and if that's not possible then get yourself a rescue dog, one to ride with.
the best thing i ever did to combat suicidal feelings was get rid of the TV
Funny that, I watch very little. I just find most of it so mind numbingly banal.
A father and his son owned a farm. They did not have many animals, but they did own a horse.
One day the horse ran away.
“How terrible, what bad luck,” said the neighbours.
“Good luck, bad luck, who knows?” replied the farmer.
Several weeks later the horse returned, bringing with him four wild mares.
“What marvellous luck,” said the neighbours.
“Good luck, bad luck, who knows?” replied the farmer.
The son began to learn to ride the wild horses, but one day he was thrown and broke his leg.
“What bad luck,” said the neighbours.
“Good luck, bad luck, who knows?” replied the farmer.
The next week the army came to the village to take all the young men to war.
The
farmer’s son was still disabled with his broken leg, so he was spared. “Good luck, bad luck, who knows?”
I like that. Nice post.
There are thousands (if not millions) of depressed people worldwide (myself included) who have found relief though medication and counselling without having to resort to any belief system. Belief in oneself is the key.
Belief in oneself is the key though for some a belief system gives them the strength to believe in themselves.
Some of the happiest, most grounded people I know have faith and its the hope it gives people in times suffering which means that, while not of faith myself, I never belittle others for having it in their lives.
Whatever gets you through the night brother.
as hinted at above, certain demographics will put themselves in dangerous positions on purpose... a war is a good way to do this. i've known people eat and smoke on purpose in an effort to kill themselves slowly so people wouldn't think they committed suicide (shame) in fact a guy less than 20 meters from me upped his cigarettes to over 25grams of tobacco a day in an effort to get lung cancer.
Yup, I'd wager those of us who enjoy risky activities have a higher 'death drive' than others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_drive
Interesting wiki
I never belittle others for having it in their lives.Whatever gets you through the night brother.
Which, for me, in relation to religion, is trying to bring an end to the very many wrongs carried out in the name of various religions (mutilation of children genitals, homophobia, subjugation of women, wars, etc). If it takes belittling people to do that, so be it.
I will just make one comment on the "suicide as a selfish act" point that often comes out in these discussions. No, it is not selfish. What you are claiming, when you say that to someone who is depressed and suicidal, is that they have an obligation to put someone else's concerns and happiness above their own. You are effectively telling them that it is their job to extend their own misery just to satisfy someone else, and that is the most perverse thing you can say to someone so deep in their own nest of irrational despair. All it does is deepen their problems tenfold.
I dumped one of my ex's a few years ago because she did this to someone.
Couldn't handle the intellectual ignorance.
It's not for this thread Tucker but I think you confuse the evil acts of humans and their interpretation of religion as an excuse for their actions with most religions original intent and teachings.
Mrsflash BANG ON. +1
Some very thought provoking words on this thread and my thoughts are with anyone affected by this.
What has surprised me recently is how quickly a series of events can overtake you and the speed with which how you lose the perspective to see the wood from the trees and with it the ability to pick yourself up without external help. Luckily I was coerced into seeking help by my partner before things got too bad although I still take things a day at a time.
Whilst outside the demographic mentioned by the OP I can certainly see why people feel they have no choice but to take their own life and unfortunately don't seek help (or don't feel they are worthy of help) with the associated stigma.
Unfortunately one only has to look at the suicide rates in Greece, Italy and Spain to see what impact an economic downturn can have across all age groups.