Who put Monday morning in the "when is she going to be sacked?" sweepstakes?!
Radio 5 reporting that James Cleverley has just gone into No.10 and are calling him as next Home Sec.
Radio 5 reporting that James Cleverley has just gone into No.10 and are calling him as next Home Sec.
Well he's had a quick stint in education and is currently Secretary of State for Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Affairs (a position held for just over 2 months) so it must be time for another game of musical chairs.
Can't wait for her letter. Should be a zinger.
In some respects maybe having a rolling door of various ministers is a good thing because nothing that serious ever gets time to be implemented. Thinking about it, a lot of stuff has been announced over the past decade but apart from the disaster that is Brexit, nothing has actually gone into law. It's just consultation after consultation, and even then they get scrapped after some white-haired pensioner suggests that they don't like it.
It really does make The Thick of It seem quite dull and toned down.
BBC reporting David Cameron has just walked into Number 10? WTF?!!
BBC reporting now that David Cameron has arrived and is new Home Secretary!
Dammit Binners! 12 seconds! 🤣🤣🤣
Just when you thought this couldn't take a more bizarre twist.....
For God's sake, hasn't he done enough damage?
Did they cook this shit up at the Cenotaph yesterday?
"What are you up to these days Dave? Fancy being Foreign Secretary?"
You never know, might be the political equivalent of this seminal 80s TV moment.
Brexit? Pandemic? Boris? All a bad dream, love.
Gone before the Rwanda decision unwinds later this week. According to the Sunday Times, privately nobody expects the government to win that case, and hence even primary legislation (asking MPs to vote) won’t be seen as an option. What a loss 🥲
In some respects maybe having a rolling door of various ministers is a good thing because nothing that serious ever gets time to be implemented. Thinking about it, a lot of stuff has been announced over the past decade but apart from the disaster that is Brexit, nothing has actually gone into law. It’s just consultation after consultation, and even then they get scrapped after some white-haired pensioner suggests that they don’t like it.
There has been a shitload of legislation passed, the wackadoodle announcements are just the distraction so the legislation they are creating doesn't get full scrutiny.
isn’t she a Buddhist?
Typo? Did they mean Butt Cyst?
BBC reporting now that David Cameron has arrived and is new Home Secretary!
Don't you have to be an MP?
Don’t you have to be an MP?
Or a Lord. Which he will now become, I guess. Not sure what the turnaround time on corrupt peerages is, perhaps they'll tack him on the Truss list, just to add insult to injury for her.
Everyone that voted for a BoZo led Government, see what your idiotic voting has brought. Go hang you heads in shame.
I was over the moon when I read the headline. Then I scrolled down and read that on Friday afternoon the Met police literally threw the homes/tents and belongings of ten homeless men in the back of a bin lorry. Put a bit of a ding in my mood.
(apologies if that's already been mentioned.)
Why do they walk up Downing Street?
Is it like dropping off a child at school where you can’t park in the zig-zag lines?
One would have thought that there would be an interconnecting corridor or perhaps a loading bay space near the door.
Gone before the Rwanda decision unwinds later this week.
They know they'll lose it and they actively want to
If they win, they will actually have to deliver it. And as we know, this lot couldn't deliver a ****ing pizza. They've deliberately held Rwanda up as a panacea to all the countries ills and deliberately painted a misleading picture of tens of thousands of immigrants being shipped off to Africa. The reality is that it'd be a couple of hundred people and won't make the slightest bit of difference to anything. All at absolutely enormous cost
Easier to lose it, then use it to go full 'enemies of the people', a la Brexit. Then you get to use it to attack the 'Guardian-reading, tofu-eating wokerati' judiciary and demand withdrawal from the ECHR to boot
BBC reporting David Cameron has just walked into Number 10? WTF?!!
Election planning? Normal to talk to a past winner if considering a date... he ain't asking Johnson for advice!
BBC reporting now that David Cameron ... is new Home Secretary!
Not a chance.
More of the same...
Rummaging around in the Tory toolbox.
Lol at Dave going into number 10.
Might have to start another thread for another bad Tory. 😉
Well it just so happens I've got tofu for tea today, how apt
As much as I think in an ideal world no tory would ever have any position of power, I’ll take David Cameron over the current crop every day of the week
although as has been mentioned earlier, I thought you had to be a sitting MP to have a role in government
it speaks volumes however that of the 300 odd sitting MP’s they have in place, the PM didn’t think anybody else was suitable.
Rummaging around in the Tory toolbox.Lol at Dave going into number 10.
Might have to start another thread for another bad Tory. 😉
I know that this Government have long since thrown out the Governmenting Rulebook but surely there is no way that Cameron could be given a ministerial role?! Since he's not an MP, they'd have to make him a Lord. But secondly, putting a former PM and leader of the Remain campaign into a cabinet absolutely stuffed to the rafters with rabid Brexiteers is surely not going to happen?
However, stranger things have happened... 🤷
It would say "caretaker government" if he was given a domestic brief. No chance.
Gove is going to be so pissed he didn't get home secretary
isn’t she a Buddhist ?
Yes, sorry, you're absolutely right.
She may call herself a ‘Buddhist’, but that statement holds about as much water as me walking past a Karate gym and calling myself a black belt.
Even the Buddhist community in London have told her to sod off, in their own respectful, non-confrontational way.
Ehh - not sure the Rohingya would agree with the suggestion that all "real Buddhists" are gentle ant-huggers. But of a "no true Scotsman" vibe about some of these statements. Braverman fits right in.
Westerners rarely associate Buddhism with extremism or violence, but Buddhist movements in Asia have often raised few qualms about the use of force. Buddhist authorities have, at times, justified violence against the faith’s enemies and supported authoritarian regimes.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/02/16/myanmar-rohingya-coup-buddhists-protest/
Presumably is Cameron gets a job it shows how little talent there is within the current MPs
She'll have a presenter slot on GB News by the end of the week. I reckon the previous couple of weeks has actually been a sneaky job interview where she's promised them that she's far-right and they've gone "hmm, are you sure about that, please prove it".
Back in for second interview later today - "there we go, did you see the far-right thugs start a riot at the Cenotaph?!"
Congratulations, you've got the job.
Nominative determinist oxymoron Cleverly as Home sec, I've heard. Cameron to ForSec is the rumour, would mean he has to be a Lord asap.
If that's the case, the rest of the reshuffle can be left...... one out to be a shouty backbencher (That'll be fun, after her resignation statement
"It has been the greatest privilege of my life to serve as home secretary," she says. "I will have more to say in due course.")
and one in from the sidelines. However lots of rumours that junior ministers in the various Depts are stepping down which kind of indicates their bosses / sponsors are as well.
Utter rats in a sack chaos.
Dodgy dave as foreign sec.
Wtf is going on
Point can still be made that pissing about for several days before sacking her just shows how weak and indecisive Sunak is. As with the HS2 cancellation debacle.
Fire up the D CAM thread!
He's been made a Baron and appointed to the House of Lords and all his dodgy lobbying erased from memory
Hurray for Democracy
Braverman says she will have 'more to say in due course', implying she does not plan to accept her sacking quietly
Full-scale Tory civil war across the front pages, just a few months before a general election, and with a consistent 20% Labour lead over the Tories?
And David Cameron back on the scene just to emphasis how much he was lying when Rishi Sunak claimed that he the "change" Prime Minister after 13 years of Tory rule?
Not in my wildest dreams.
Didn't Rishi, only a matter of a few months ago, call Cameron the "failed consensus"?
James! Cleverly! You couldn't make it up. What is wrong with Larry! The! Cat! ??
So how long until they dig up thatcher and appoint her deputy PM?
According to Sky News’ Beth Rigby, some Tories are unhappy about the possibility of David Cameron being given a cabinet job because that would imply that none of the 350 Conservative MPs in the Commons were good enough.
None of the ones that want a job are good enough would be true. Anyone with any nous is hiding on the backbenches
Cameron as foreign sec is just absurd tho but he maybe will be able to be vaguely sensible in negotiations with the EU
She says she’ll ’have more to say in due course’
i’m Sure any of us could guess the sort of things she wants to tell us
i feel like we should draw up bingo cards
Then I scrolled down and read that on Friday afternoon the Met police literally threw the homes/tents and belongings of ten homeless men in the back of a bin lorry.
Naah .. they were HELPING them !
Thinking about it, a lot of stuff has been announced over the past decade but apart from the disaster that is Brexit, nothing has actually gone into law.
As MSP pointed out plenty has gone through. Trade Unions have been hobbled, workers rights eroded, protest is all but illegal and we have the Online Safety Bill.
Don't fool yourself that they have been maliciously incompetent, it'll take years to undo the damage they have caused.
Baron Dave of Greensill. After than episode I'm surprised he's allowed near the building!
Meanwhile....
BBC News - Welfare cuts worth billions planned by ministers
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67385385
She says she’ll ’have more to say in due course’
Isn't Lizzie due to deliver her 'alternative' Autumn statement that Tufton Street are presently writing for her too?
Looks like its going to be a fun few weeks for Lil Rishi, with the ghosts of incompetence past popping up left, right and centre
Why do I get the feeling that, despite it being a Very Good Thing that Braverman has been removed from her post that it somehow plays into her masterplan to become Party Leader and that Sunak has only gone ahead with it as that's what she wanted?
As for Cameron coming back? Wow. This is the kind of stuff that if a comedian or scriptwriter had come up with it, it would be dismissed as unbelievably impossible and only imaginable if you were on some very strong drugs.
Cameron as foreign sec is just absurd tho but he maybe will be able to be vaguely sensible in negotiations with the EU
He was directly responsible for Brexit in the first place and then the protracted and largely bitter negotiations with the EU (in which they walked all over us).
They just regard him as foolish and weak plus he took up vast amounts of time that could have been much better spent.
When that destructive bell end Cameron is no longer Foreign Secretary can they be sure to take his peerage back off him?
…and remember when you thought Priti Awful was the worst they could come up with..
I'm sure it won't be lost on anyone, as the NHS and public services fall apart, that the architect of austerity which caused all that is now back in government.
Despite being labelled by Rishi as part of 'the failed status quo' only a few weeks ago
So, do we think she'll be joining Farage on I'm a Celeb - she's got time to fly out.
What is wrong with Larry! The! Cat! ??
over qualified and not a nazi would be my guess…
Baron Greensill
As much as I think in an ideal world no tory would ever have any position of power, I’ll take David Cameron over the current crop every day of the week
If this is the thought process on here (I'll admit I initially thought it too,and I can't stand the arse), I wonder if they're thinking that he might appeal to more centerist tory voters to possibly lure them back ahead of the election
I wonder if they’re thinking that he might appeal to more centrist tory voters to possibly lure them back ahead of the election
The guardian seems to think so. They need less lunatic folk to appeal in the "blue wall"
fossy
Full Member
So, do we think she’ll be joining Farage on I’m a Celeb – she’s got time to fly out.
She'll always have an opening at GB News but I'm sure they won't mind her doing the whole entertainment TV entertainment gig that seems to be the retirement plan of most Tories now.
Of course they are. You don’t think they want his incisive political insight do you? It’s ALL about the optics and reducing the ‘visible’ fascist tally. I still think this will bite Sunak on the arse though - Cameron has way too much baggage for this to work
So cleverly just made a statement and his first priority is to "stop the boats".
Business as usual then.
That aged well.
He's not Home Secretary. There was no chance of him being given a domestic brief. The Foreign Secretary role is seen by many as a being a senior diplomat role (when performed well) rather than impacting on day to day policy at home (what most people vote on).
Crazy that he's back in any role, especially given the Greensill stuff. More Chaos with David Cameron?
genuine LOL at "all these different axle standards are a nightmare."
Good grief….
So a other cabinet removal compensation payment for Suella... Let's hope she doesn't get another cabinet post in a few days this time!
Cameron as foreign secretary, what the actual hell?! Isn't he on the board of a company, perhaps steel related, vaguely recall him being called up to a HOC committee enquiry in recent times.
He has been a paid shill for various companies - as are many of the members of the HOC right across all parties tho the tories are much worse
BBC News – Welfare cuts worth billions planned by ministers
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67385385/blockquote >Perfect day to hide this behind the endless discussion of who got what job and what we think of them.
And it is working, even if only on STW.
Perfect day to hide this behind the endless discussion of who got what job and what we think of them.
I don't think they want to hide that. I won't just be "small boats" it'll also be "lazy workshy spongers" that will be the basis of their attempts to get all their core vote out come an election. When money is tight for those in work (or drawing pensions) then reducing benefits (for those out of work of working age) is a campaign strategy.
I bet his declaration in the 'members interests' section is going to make interesting reading?
Doesn't he lobby on behalf of a lot of Chinese companies? Ian Duncan Smiths head is probably about to explode