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I agree that there are a lot of people at Wales internationals that are not usually rugby fans.
Like what happened here (which is not particularly bad, and maybe not very well/accurately reported) seems like St Marys street on a friday night anyway.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/wales-v-england-idiotic-fans-8599135


 
Posted : 18/02/2015 12:14 pm
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There was a piece on Sky Sports whereby Cipriani stated that playing for his country was influential on his decision to stay with an english club.

I very much doubt there is a big money bid for him in France. He's no Sexton/Carter/Giteau or even Flood. In fact had Flood still been in England Cirpriani would not be in the squad.


 
Posted : 18/02/2015 1:17 pm
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Just after 1990, when there was a lot of political tension over the whole poll tax/daring to win the grand slam against Diana's blokes xv,there was a lot of abuse that went beyond the pale at the Murrayfield decider AND the 6N game and WC semi final the next season. There was a fairly large brawl outside the Haymarket tavern after the WC match. At Twickenham,I was there with the Ms Duck at the time and another couple and was called a "cross dressing porridge wog" I was living there at the time and met up with my clubmates as they used to run a trip down,a lot of the guys had fairly similar stories,including one guy who had his head split with a beer can. It has calmed down to a fair extent,but I suspect that this year could be pretty tense after Sept.


 
Posted : 18/02/2015 1:46 pm
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A bunch of lads I know went straight back to their hotel after the Eng/Wales game. They were getting a lot of shit and threatened etc. Apparently everyone was shitfaced and the atmosphere was menacing.
Reading the reports, it looks like they made the right decision.


 
Posted : 18/02/2015 1:51 pm
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Wales was the worst we have ever encountered. Pretty shocking.

The tunnel games were nothing....


 
Posted : 18/02/2015 1:55 pm
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I very much doubt there is a big money bid for him in France. He's no Sexton/Carter/Giteau or even Flood. In fact had Flood still been in England Cirpriani would not be in the squad.

According to the DT and others Toulon had made an offer to him for next season.


 
Posted : 18/02/2015 2:01 pm
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Wales was the worst we have ever encountered. Pretty shocking.

That does annoy me. After the failure of the "valleys industry" you'd have thought they'd thank us for creating money & employment while we pour money into that Bridge and the local economies when we visit the Trail centres.

I said it before - the WRFU exaggerated that sentiment with all the games and flashing lights and should be held responsible IMO. My suggested sanction are that all Anglo / Welsh games are held at Twicker 😀


 
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The tunnel shenanigans was just poor sportsmanship, and I was all up for blaming the WRFU, as I know our players would never do that. But then I read an interview with Sam and he said he had hoped to leave the England team out on the pitch for 15 mins before they came out. I was ashamed. My english husband was jubilant at Sams confession.


 
Posted : 18/02/2015 3:14 pm
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There is plenty more that you won't know about.


 
Posted : 18/02/2015 3:16 pm
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There is plenty more that you won't know abou

Like what?


 
Posted : 18/02/2015 3:20 pm
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There is plenty more that you won't know about.

I got that impression. I'd love to know the whole story.


 
Posted : 18/02/2015 3:23 pm
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According to the DT and others Toulon had made an offer to him for next season.

I hedged my bets with "big money", I had read the press stories. I suspect they thought they could get him pretty cheaply.


 
Posted : 18/02/2015 4:10 pm
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He'd have made a boatload more than he is earning at Sale.


 
Posted : 18/02/2015 4:21 pm
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where was the sam warbs interview dbcooper?


 
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I can't bloody find it now, all the ones I can find don't say that. I know my husband has it bookmarked cos he sent it to all his mates, so I'll get it tonight.


 
Posted : 18/02/2015 5:11 pm
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thank you


 
Posted : 18/02/2015 6:05 pm
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Russell got another two weeks. Townsend nails it,he apologises on twitter for coaching players to keep their eye on the ball. After cement head rabbiting on about it,we should play his game and cite Jenkins. That was at least as bad,and Garland wants players protected.


 
Posted : 18/02/2015 8:50 pm
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Why don't you start a thread on religion if you want to spout that sort of idiotic,trolling pish?


 
Posted : 19/02/2015 7:06 am
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Seen this on twitter. Funny.

Seen this #Finnocent hashtag. Why won't the Scots accept the decision with the same grace & dignity that us Welsh did with Warburton's red?…

😆


 
Posted : 19/02/2015 7:18 am
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Two thousand! 😀


 
Posted : 19/02/2015 7:33 am
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Sale confirm Danny Cipriani has signed a two-year contract with the club. Very happy about that, not too happy to be losing Paterson to bloody Saints though.


 
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not too happy to be losing Paterson to bloody Saints though.

I agree he is a very good player but we do have a lot of talent in that area with Hines/Ostrikov/Mills/Beaumont as well as one or two others although we need to think of future replacement for Hines.
Anyway a good deal for Saints.


 
Posted : 19/02/2015 10:18 am
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I would have given Hines the invite when Gray got broken,He is a machine.


 
Posted : 19/02/2015 10:39 am
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He is always entertaining 😀


 
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🙂 should have been a yellow too !


 
Posted : 19/02/2015 4:45 pm
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10 Weeks for Pape. 🙂


 
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Good


 
Posted : 19/02/2015 8:42 pm
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Why don't you start a thread on religion if you want to spout that sort of idiotic,trolling pish?

Calm down dear, have a cup of tea or some suitably pleasant beverage.


 
Posted : 19/02/2015 8:55 pm
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Do you mean Nathan "Yellow Card" Hines?

Second only to The Great Danny Grewcock.


 
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I am afraid I was calm Mr Troll,so you can stop rubbing your thighs together. I am going to talk about rugby now, so you may want to google the various terms used.

Do you mean Nathan "Yellow Card" Hines?

Second only to The Great Danny Grewcock.

POSTED 1 HOUR AGO # REPORT-POST


Far better player than Grewcock, RL background and the nous to play at 6 at international level.


 
Posted : 19/02/2015 10:37 pm
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Posted : 19/02/2015 10:50 pm
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Every time I see Hines play he's on the edge of getting carded at any moment.

Grewcock should have done the Ref, his team mates, and the opposition a favour and sat on the bench for 10 minutes each half.


 
Posted : 20/02/2015 12:00 am
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Good forward play that from Hines,best forwards from a refs point of view are the ones you want to yellow card but can't catch! I thought that was what Grewcock did,was that not a formal,contractual arrangement?


 
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My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius. Commander of the Armies of the North. General of the Felix Legions. Loyal servant to the true Emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife – and I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next. So Select Sam Burgess for England

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/31547115

Well, it made me laugh!


 
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Ref Grewcock, I was drinking with an old scrum half team mate of his and he said he was the best possible player to have on your side. If there was any kind of niggle at all, "just set Grewy on em". Can't imagine what it would have been like facing a pairing of him and Martin Johnson, I'd personally shite myself and go straight to the pub!


 
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On the Rugby Show on Sky several years ago they polled a fair number of players and asked the question - "Who was the hardest opponent you ever faced?"

The overwhelming response was "Danny Grewcock". With a few honourable mentions for Buck Shelford.


 
Posted : 20/02/2015 11:11 am
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2005 I think it was, Grewcock steps over the ruck and kicks Dwayne Peel in the head as he's about to pass the ball out. Austin Healey was on the commentary team:

"Oh he's just clumsy, he did that to me once, and we were on the same side, he didn't mean it!"


 
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Some interesting ideas for improving the game:

[url= http://www.sportsjoe.ie/rugby/how-to-improve-rugby-15-ways/13962 ]how-to-improve-rugby-15-ways[/url]


 
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Agree with stopping the offsides thing. These rush defences are offside most of the game. The choke tackle is a bit shit too (hopefully we'll see more bastardo techniques, that'll stop it). The rest are crap ideas.


 
Posted : 20/02/2015 12:04 pm
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@bigblackshed 😀

To be fair it's been said many times that everyone, including his team mates want to kick Healy


 
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Agree with stopping the offsides thing. These rush defences are offside most of the game. The choke tackle is a bit shit too (hopefully we'll see more bastardo techniques, that'll stop it). The rest are crap ideas.

Yup agreed. My RL coach in Australia (1968 😳 ) used to call that a "pommie tackle" and made it quite clear it won't stop anyone of any size. Trying to tackle Basteraud high is just inviting that responce especially if you are the 9 or 10


 
Posted : 20/02/2015 1:31 pm
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made it quite clear it won't stop anyone of any size.

But the thing is, it did stop Basteraud.
And prevented him crossing the gain line.
And prevented France building off the crash ball as intended.
And the key thing, it produced turnovers, both direct quick ball and scrum put ins.

Trying to tackle Basteraud high is just inviting that responce especially if you are the 9 or 10

What response?

Anyway, note also, one of Englands' key ploys in beating Wales the other week was to tackle high and keep their big crash-ball carriers up then strip them of the ball.
Did it to all 4 of Roberts, North , Davies, and Cuthbert in the second half.
All in the 10 channel, too. Admit he he did get a bit of back-up from Robshaw, Haskell and friends, but it's a team game 🙂

Teams do it because it works.
And it works even better when the opponents don't expect it - like when opponents think sending a 17+ stone centre/wing/battering-ram down the fly halfs channel is the best way to play rugby.

I like choke tackles. I see it as a bit of an antidote to Warrenball / BasteraudBall (or whatever the French imitation is called).
it encourages more expansive , passing rugby.


 
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But the thing is, it did stop Basteraud.
And prevented him crossing the gain line.
And prevented France building off the crash ball as intended.

Well he did break the gain line (just not by as much) but it broke the tackler (the best player on the team), took him off the field for a good while and made sure he didn't play as well when he came back on. I hope he does it against us.
I see it as an entirely negative tactic designed to slow the game (preventing off loads, quick ball etc) and force an easy turnover. It is legal though, so can't discredit any teams for using it.


 
Posted : 20/02/2015 3:32 pm
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I hope he does it against us.

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Posted : 20/02/2015 3:41 pm
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Sorry. Just don't really understand what you mean there


 
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