[Closed] Stupid ****holes with big, daft, loud exhausts

Chill out grandad.

Innit.

When and why did the police stop clamping down on 17 year olds with 1.2 Corsa and Fiestas with massive exhausts without silencers?

Because it requires effort to look under the car and determine it's illegal from the markings on it (If any)

If you have a motorbike with a loud can, it's easy for all to see and nicely stamped "not for road use" and makes bikes an easy target.

Didn't you know... by putting a big exhaust on their car, lowering the suspension and putting on a bodykit they are, infact, improving on the design characteristics that those folk with degrees spent ages trying to get right and turn their cars into superb handling 400bhp (out of the stock 1.2) sports cars.

Do you know nothing? I suggest you read Max Power to understand them better... then you too will want to do the same.

Or not 😉

Pisses me right off too, usually cos they drive like nobs and think their 1.2 Fiesta is faster than anything else on the road... and hence try to race anything they come across. Including my Speed Triple.

To be honest, if that noise was present in the workplace, it would be sorted...promptly. But these little chavvy oiks seem to think it's their right to be disruptive and attract attention.

bless em!!!

Think you self lucky your next door neighbour doesn't sit revving his phat exhausted XR3i outside your house every day.
It even interferes with my TV.

If only I had a potato big enough to plug it....

If only I had a potato big enough to plug it....

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It is massively inconsiderate. I've got friends how live on a more major main road who have a one year old. They can't have the wondon open on a night cause the child* is scared shitless with the noise every time one of them goes past.

I once did put some Termis on a Ducati I had, but I left the silencers in and it was no louder the the stock exhaust. They took out the cat and re-mapped the engine so it was better in the mid range - althogh in truth I couldn't really tell the difference. I can half understand it here, given I did it myself, but some of the cars I'm talking about are MUCH, MUCH louder than that.

Who do I write to? Points of view? Readers Digest? The council?

* When people start thread saying they have this 'friend' who's sleeping with his best mates wife, we all assume we know who's involved. I promise I'm not the scared one year old 😉

Peterpoddy.

I would. I seriously would.

the size of there penis is inversely proportional to the size of the exhaust.

Chill out grandad.

Innit.

Yea blud!
And besides, when you buy your midlife-crisis Harley you can be the one annoying the shit out of your neighbours with "THUT THUT THUT THUT THUT THUT THUT" as you sit outside their house on your surrogate youth. 😈

If southPark can change the American dictionary then why cant we change the English one:

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I don't really have too much of a problem with them (but then I don't live on a road). Didn't we all do things like that when we were kids - I had K&N air filters because it made my car sound better and would leave a blowing exhaust unfixed because I thought it sounded better.

And after all, many sports cars can make equal amounts of noise (usually hidden behind a valve that opens up at certain revs to get around noise regs). What I have a big problem with is when the loud exhausts are accompanied by kids driving like c0cks - that's where the real problems are.

It's the stupid dump-valve noise on a 1.2 bloody Saxo as well, combined with a cheap subbox that is slightly out of time with the actual music that irritates me. I can remember one mag doing a custom job on a 1.6 Fiesta; K&N filter, chip, phat exhaust, spent £600 and improved performance by 3%. Which isn't great when the car had less than 100bhp to start with...

Teenagers in bazze up hatchbacks make me laugh out loud. All that noise from the stereo and exhaust but it is still a Saxo ffs, and your chubby becapped mates aren't going to help you get up that steep hill.

[i]I could almost let it pass through the day, but when it's a Friday/Saturday night and you're sleeping with the windows open [/i]

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stay up then, or is it too much effort on a Saturday night now you've reached the grand old age of mid thirties ?

jeesh... it's only some plebeian kid trying to draw attention to himself so that he appears to be 'cool'.

[i]I can't help but want them to crash[/i] 🙄

Kev

Didn't we all do things like that when we were kids

A lot did, yes. But the police were forever handing out producers to my mates which stopped the exhausts from getting too noisy. Now, as they don't seem to care the exhausts have grew bigger, noisier and more numerous.

stay up then, or is it too much effort on a Saturday night now you've reached the grand old age of mid thirties

So, you're telling me I should stay up til 2 or 3am every Friday and Saturday in order for me to comfortably sleep with the window open. Really?

And you can roll your eyes at the crash thing, but it's true. I really have no compunction about hoping they'll write off their car on the next roundabout, putting an end to their midnight razzes up and down the road. I don't want them hurt, but if it's a consequence then I'm happy to live with it. 😉

But the police were forever handing out producers to my mates which stopped the exhausts from getting too noisy.

I must admit I do find myself getting very annoyed with 'kids' sometimes but I always try to tell myself what I told myself when I was a kid - 'don't ever become like a grown-up when I am older'. At the end of the day, kids have always broken rules and will always do so. I would rather the police were concentrating on stopping the kids with knives and the ones harrassing old ladies than stopping some Kev because they think his exhaust might be a bit noisy.

There is so many whinging little girls on this site its unbelievable.

I hate cars. As far as I'm concerned they are all loud and horrible. The 17yr old chav mobiles with the loud exhausts are indeed worse than most, but that's just relative to other motor vehicles. A large road, even without boy racer cars, still stops one year old children sleeping and forces people to shut their windows.

If you ask me, motorised vehicles (other than ambulances and fire engines) are selfish, loud and destructive and they should have their licence to use the Queen's Highways revoked. Pity no one ever asks me 😥

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As an 18 - 19 year old in my succession of old vans, I was a total **** really.
I'd slash my tyres if I saw myself do some of the things I did then around my 'hood today.

[i]There is so many whinging little girls on this site its unbelievable.[/i]

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Kev

Mine's loud when I want it to be and quiet when I need it to be. As the owner of a noisy car I'm careful not to make more than a low grumble around residential areas after ~9pm, but it does have a small mid-box in there as well and it's all perfectly legal. I'd have preferred two 3" exits like the original instead of a single 115mm exit, but it's only really very noisy at 3000rpm (right in the middle of motorway cruise speeds IIRC) and there were no other options on the market at the time except a toyota original at twice the price of a turbo-back stainless setup.
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Incidentally there's apparently some newish laws under which if the car is used in a way that alarms or upsets people (read as acceleratign past people and purposefully letting off to fire the dump valve, or revving it loudly for no reason etc) the police can give a warning (IIRC its called something like "section 59") - on second warning the car is taken and crushed.

But I have almost no problems with loud cars going past at night with the window open, my main problem is kids on the school field at the back booting a ball against a wall at 2am. But you don't hear me whining about it.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

My midget is louder than most chavmobiles 😀 a friend of a friend has one with a brass exhaust which sounds awesome even compared to my stainless one!

[b]Given time and money.................[/b]

Next step is possible a 16v 1.4 k-series to shed some (considderable, its a BMC 1500 at the moment) weight form the front axel and get a revier engine,

Brake servo & 4 pot callipers (deperately needed)

knock 2" off the suspension all round, and covert to coilover/telescopic depending on budget

'body kit' well, take off the rubber bumpers and fill the holes, front air dam like B's, fair the underside and maybe bodge a diffuser under the rear end (isn't having access to a fluid dynamics simulator awesome 😀 ), replace the screen with a windshield.

Move battery to the back and shed all unececary weight.

Roll cage

Its either all that or buy a kit car, I'm undecided.

See, fiddling with car's isn't just for teenagers 😀

I do love this site: it aint a problem for me, so just MTFU and get on with it.

Brilliant.

Go on then Coffeeking, out of curiosity, when/why would you want it to be loud?

Mine's loud when I want it to be

mastiles_fanylion - Member

But the police were forever handing out producers to my mates which stopped the exhausts from getting too noisy.

Might depend on the force, I suppose. I'm Northumbria, and I'm talking about 15 years or so ago...

Go on then Coffeeking, out of curiosity, when/why would you want it to be loud?

When I'm out on the open roads or driving about town during the day, the sound makes me smile. I enjoy the sound, much as I enjoy music. The way it reflects back off buildings/tunnels, the way you can hear individual valves opening, muffles slightly by the initial whir of the turbo, then completely covered by the jet-like whistle as the turbo spools. The soft pop and burble of the overrun (if I'm running with that map). All things that make me smile to myself inside. And before you say it, none of it is for the benefit of others and I don't care if people dislike my car. That's the wonderful thing about personal choice, one persons noise is anothers orchestra, and providing it's not forced on you all the time it's all good. I suppose you could say I'd like mine loud all the time, but after 4 hours at motorway speed you tend to want it to be quieter and a constant drone has no audio quality, hence I've got a removable baffle for longer runs 🙂 As I also stated, at night I tend to crawl everywhere at <2krpm in residential zones as I'm aware its not fair on the neighbours who may have sprogs asleep.

[i]The soft pop and burble of the overrun [/i]

I usually call that my follow-through.

Well so long as you don't follow-through near me you can call it what you like 😀

But going back to the OP, what you're effectively saying is that the noise from a fairly distant main road annoys you on some nights when you choose to sleep with the windows open and when the wind is in the right (wrong) direction?

I hate the noise of other traffic too. I got a house away from main roads. On the odd night the wind is in the wrong direction I hear the planes landing at the airport. Damn those planes for being so noisy occasionally.

Honest and open answer. I don't relate, but I can understand what you're saying.

It's a shame though that the noise isn't just inside the car and only you hear it, and instead everybody else is forced to listen to it too. To a lot of people, it's just a pain in the arse to have to hear it.

It's a shame though that the noise isn't just inside the car and only you hear it, and instead everybody else is forced to listen to it too. To a lot of people, it's just a pin in the arse to have to hear it.

Definitely, thats why I say I keep it minimal while driving in areas where it might be heard, some people are not so nice I'm aware. If it's that often surely a quick word with the plod would see an occasional car posted listening (they can do the roadside loudness testing easily, they've no need to check anything on the car phsyically).

I miss my old MGF with it's de-cat pipe and Mike Satur Imola exhaust.

7am.

Cold frosty morning.

Start it up.

Blip the throttle.

Set off every car alarm in the street. 😳

Not cars but when I was in my teens it was more or less compulsory to stick microns/allspeeds on to your 2 stroke motorbike.

Noisy as ****, no doubt annoying as **** to the middle aged/elderly but surely this is just what kids do?

Might depend on the force, I suppose. I'm Northumbria, and I'm talking about 15 years or so ago...

loud pipes save lives. Or so the asshole harley riders think.

Gonna sound like an old git here, but loud exhausts do my nut in.

Where I live there is basically a square rectangular circuit around the town with roundabouts on all but one corner.
And how the kids love to race around it in the evening either in their cars or scooters (age dependant).
Round and round they go - when they'll stop nobody knows.

Oh....well that one's stopped by T-boning the person trying to pull out of the end of the road & his car is wrecked - oh and his girlfriend's head appears to have struck the windscreen......hmmmm. Better go & see if they are OK........you what, you were doing at least 40 & didn't slow for the roundabout....and it's wet & your girlfriend didn't have her seatbelt on. Nice one.

Stumpy - that goes back to my point. Loud exhausts should not be a cause for concern, but the associated bad driving should be.

I would rather see Goon A in his mum's bog-standard Corsa pulled for driving dangerously, than Goon B pulled just because his exhaust is a bit loud, irrespective of whether or not his driving warranted it.

MF - yeah - see your point about people being stopped for bad driving irrespective of whether their exhaust is loud or not.

But, IN GENERAL, round our way if you hear a car with a loud exhaust it won't be a sports car. It will be a 1.2 Saxo struggling to accelerate the 6 occupants to 50mph and being driven around corners way too fast.

The annoyance with loud exhausts is coming home in the summer from a hard day at work, wanting to relax with a beer in the garden but being forced inside to shut the patio door as there is a constant stream of stupidly loud exhausts going past the house for 3 hrs.

I don't mind loud cars provided they sound good. All these exhausts do is make the car sound like a wet fart.

Its utterly tragic. Your shitheap sounds worse with the stupid exhaust on than it did before, its only becuase you've spent 30 McDonald's shifts to pay it off its still attached to your shitheap.

Getting away from the lights sounds like someone with explosive squits being passed through a PA system.

I'm in the 'so what camp' here. My first car was a mini built via the 'G.O' system at Rover, brand new seam welded shell, full alloy cage with door bars, 4 point harnesses etc, 1380 engine built using David Vizards book, set up at Aldon automotive, 45DCOE, Kent 296 scatter cam, 1.5 rockers, incline big valve head, 4 bolt centre main strap, 138bhp at flywheel, straight cut drop gears, straight cut Jack Knight dog box, sounded like a machine shop coming down the road, not nice in traffic as nothing below 2500rpm, sounded awesome when hitting redline at 8,200 rpm. most fun I've had in a car, used to turn lots of heads due to the whining of the gears when pootling around town, 30mph meant 2nd gear to keep revs up.

Had car for 2 years, never stopped by the police once (drove very carefully and also had quite a bit of training on the track with it) and only complaint I had was my parents knew I was coming down the road as there was no suppressor on the alternator and it used to cause a snow storm on their tv 😀

Sounds like a lovely lil min votchy.

There's the difference, a stock car with a big exhaust will sound naff, where as a tuned car with a big exhaust will sound great...

The annoyance with loud exhausts is coming home in the summer from a hard day at work, wanting to relax with a beer in the garden but being forced inside to shut the patio door as there is a constant stream of stupidly loud exhausts going past the house for 3 hrs.

Yup.

used to turn lots of heads due to the whining of the gears when pootling around town, 30mph meant 2nd gear to keep revs up.

I'm sure you thought it was cool, but you see all those people turning to look? Most of them think it's just a bit sad. I accept it was a proper little car, but that's not what they were thinking...

Nah, a properly tuned wee mini with whining diffs and a bit of burble sounds awesome.

See the thing is most of em don't care that its only a 1.0 15 year old Corsa. It sounds loud, has alloy wheels worth more than the car, has power drums painted red and bubble rear light clusters - thats all they're bothered about.

It's not really a new thing is it? Young guys, not a lot of money, high insurance, wanting their cars to be individual to attract some girls.

Wasn't my thing when I was younger, but I didn't mind jumping in my mates car to drive 20 miles to get some chips.

So the issue isn't that people don't like loud exhausts - people just don't like young people with big exhausts on cheap cars?

Plenty of cheap cars around with engine notes worthy of a competition spec exhaust. If you insist on buying a shitheap, use a std exhaust.

More youth-jealousy on stw 😉

iamtheresurrection: Having a mini myself (nowhere near as nice spec as yours votchy! but a very tidy build nonetheless) most people dont think its sad, most people love it and will come and talk to you about it when you park! Most of whom talk of when they had a mini in the sixties.

Hey PJ, I didn't mean that driving a Mini is sad. I had a 1275GT for about five months before I realised that's not what a student loan is for - I still really like the original Mini.

I meant that most people would have thought having a non-baffled, loud as **** exhaust was pretty sad. They probably weren't turning to look for any other reason than thinking WTF is that - and not in a good way.

Anyone with half an ouch of brainpower can pick out the difference between a 60hp 1.2 with a 3" straight through and a 300hp 2.0 turbo with a 3" straight through, the engine notes are totally different. Most of the time I don't even raise my head to look. Maybe it's only a few, or those who are into cars, but I can identify a car with the same engine as mine as it drives by without even looking <bows head in self-pity>, likewise I can identify a wet fart in a bean can without looking.

What people don't like is the driving associated with moddified cars. But most modified car clubs attract massive insurance discounts because the owners are more careful drivers. It's the morons that ram-raid halfords and then drive around the car park for hours that cause all the problems. A bit like RLJers and cyclists.

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Now THAT'S an exhaust..

Lousy panel beating mind, and he's installed the bolt-on spoiler completely wrong.

So the issue isn't that people don't like loud exhausts - people just don't like young people with big exhausts on cheap cars?

I just have an issue with people going around looking as well as sounding like cocks. Did you pair your exhaust-the-size-of-a-tunnel with an under-seat sub woofer. Jesus, you must have been like a walking piece of velcro - fanny just sticking to you wherever you wandered. 😆 😆 😆

The exhaust on my MGB is far louder than anything on a saxo etc. I know this as a good mate has a moded saxo and you wouldn't notice it next to the MG.

I love the sound of good cars and bikes for that matter. There is nothing better than sitting in a loud car listening to the burble of the engine, sucking of the K&N filters and the throaty exhaust note.

I also have an endure bike with a Dep pipe, just as loud and equally as good. It screams when you rev the nuts off it.

I think it’s something some people will never understand.

Last time I had my car noise tested the exhaust was 105 dB.... it sounds great !!

I think it’s something some people will never understand.

I'll duck out of this one now, I think it's run it's course.

I can understand that you like the sound, or anybody else on the thread who has a **** off exhaust. As I said, I fitted a Termignoni full system to my Ducati a couple of years back, but I couldn't ride it without the baffles 'cause I just thought I was too much of a nuisance riding out of my estate on a Sunday morning.

Or any other day, time and place for that matter. Clearly a few of you think it's okay, but I just think it's pretty selfish. But hey...

One of these should sort the little chavs out 🙂
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I mean good exhausts, like a V8 with straight pipes ummmmmmm

Not a stranged cat sounding Nova. The crapper the car the bigger the can.

I have an exhaust on my mountain bike....

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alwyn, it's not so much the noise of the car, but the fact that it drones past (often accompanied by many other Ned cars) repeatedly all evening.

But, as you said, perhaps it's something some people will never understand.

One instance - fine. All evening - not fine.

they have it down to a fine art in 'the valleys', notorious hotspot is 'blackwood' they had to take down all the 'speed signs' (the fancy ones which show you how fast you are going) becuase all the boyracers were using them as a drag race to see who could go the fastest.

kids eh!

monkey_boy - even my dad did that.

how old are you then?

they have only been out around here for a few years! 😆

no chav car was quite as loud as my 1980 cavalier skip a few years ago when the manifold broke off 3" from the block

Not those particular ones, before I left home we had one near our house and he always used to see how fast he could go. I’m taking the keys off him when he reaches 60.

thisisnotaspoon, beware of dropping too low. the roads here have some holes over 4 inches deep, remember? lol.

i have new dampers and eibach springs in mine now with only a 30mm drop and although its not as low as it was, it works so much better.

i dropped 60mm to begin with.. what an idiot.

Wife's sister lives right on a main road, Ie...terraced house with no front garden. Loud exhausts are one thing but increasingly these days they're attached to a 300bhp Subaru or something similar. Some nights your taking your life in your hands walking along the footpath.
I fear sadly there will be one of those wilting flower tributes sooner or later.

Roads are not race tracks. Big exhausts, ambitious cornering and tuned engines belong on the track.

Save the money and get a track day car together. Bar some very expensive and notable exceptions, road cars are rubbish. That includes "hot" hatches.

aye but picking out the note of an engine might tell you one thing.but it doesnt tell the whole story.

theres a guy on one of the pug 106 sites thats got about 245bhp out of a tu 1.6 engine.he has spent 30k on the whole thing. most folk jump up and say that its not possible to get that power down in a front wheel drive car with that power but it is.. and its good viewing watching him at track days on the forum.his onboard camera shows him pulling past big jap cars with ease.

track days or thrashes would show a few folk on here what the score is with the cars you see on the streets. its an eye opener.at crail i found out that civic type rs and vxrs werent all they were cracked up to be and the highlights were a lotus elise getting thrashed by a rusty old nova (2 litre engined) by a young loon with his mate in the passenger seat. He also pulled away from me through the last half of the quarter mile with ease.hes the guy that would have gone home with a smile on his face.. the folk in the big fancy cars go home feeling a bit daft.well,the ones that were silly enough to go along side the nova! most hold back to race only their mates as they dont want to be shown up.

so.. after that lesson,i would never smirk at some kid in a nova or corsa (unless it had on some silly bodykit).you dont know whats at the other end of their big exhaust.i do wish they would stop blasting about down the streets too,though.no point.

Indeed, it's usually the noisy but relatively standard looking cars that are the ones that'll catch you out.

Super-lowered cars look like old citroen BX's to me:
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you dont know whats at the other end of their big exhaust

No, you can hear it, if its any good, it'll sound like a highly tuned engine. Some 1300-1400cc rally cars manage to sound great, even with a small lump. If its a 1.1 wet fart, it sounds like a 1.1 wet fart.

nah,the nova with the 2litre engine probably wouldnt have sounded great. but the power to weight ratio throws everything else out the window regardless of it sounding highly tuned or not.it was probably running 80% of what it was when it was new lol.but i agree. some sound like 50cc scooters.

"Save the money and get a track day car together. Bar some very expensive and notable exceptions, road cars are rubbish. That includes "hot" hatches"

but most of the best track day cars are hot hatches.

Roads are not race tracks. Big exhausts, ambitious cornering and tuned engines belong on the track.

This has been covered before.

Save the money and get a track day car together. Bar some very expensive and notable exceptions, road cars are rubbish. That includes "hot" hatches.

Another noisy Mini here too, not as spec'd up as votchys, but was bloody loud. If I gave it some down a street in 2nd gear it'd set a good few car alarms off then pop on the overrun. Used to love hammering it through the Mersey Tunnel 🙂 Had it from when I was 16, rebuilt it, learned to drive in it, drove it for 12 months and sold it when I started wakeboarding to buy a tow car for the boat. Neighbours never moaned as I kept it sensible in residential areas (especially post 7/8pm). Never got stopped by the police once, only time a copper spoke to me when I was in it, was to chat about his Mini.

Roads like this is when I really thrashed it, couldn't beat a sunny sunday out around welsh B-roads...

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Mine was the white one, mates is the yellow.

We live in a fairly quiet corner of our town so don't really have any problems with loud cars, get the odd idiot on a loud motorbike on footpaths across the fields though 😕 And live within a mile of an army training camp, so sometimes end up with choppers flying stupidly low over the house and live firing on weekends and the occasional night each year, now they do keep you awake.

on a track you have things called corners so you have to use your brakes as well as the gearbox and thats when a good driver will get the most out of any car

make the car stop better,make the car lighter(costs nothing)do a few track days and get some instruction on track....then if you feel the need start to play about with the engine, you may find you dont need more power if you learn to drive good on track

while you are doing that the kids with the big exhausts are reving the tits of there cars looking for a hedge to park it in

my mates first track car cost hime £50 a Mk1 MR2 needed work on it but he got about 5 or 6 full days out of it b4 it went to the top of the pile..

ps, it is normally the indution that makes most of the noise not the bean tin sticking out the back end

I had a yellow Mini Clubman 1275GT just like that one - bl00dy rust-bucket and a death trap but I loved it 🙂

make the car stop better,make the car lighter(costs nothing)do a few track days and get some instruction on track....then if you feel the need start to play about with the engine, you may find you dont need more power if you learn to drive good on track

Kind of agree with you there, it's fairly easy to out-perform the braking and suspension of most standard cars, but I'd wonder about its use on the road. To be out-performing your brakes and sus you need to be RIGHT at the limit of your car to enjoy it (I know it well, I used to drive a small hot hatch to its limits - carefully controlling LOOS in a 205 is great fun) and I'd consider that a lot more dangerous than improving the power for straight line accel. Either way, most car enthusiasts perform upgrades to all parts of the car, including brakes and sus along with power increases.