[Closed] Stupid ****holes with big, daft, loud exhausts

See the thing is most of em don't care that its only a 1.0 15 year old Corsa. It sounds loud, has alloy wheels worth more than the car, has power drums painted red and bubble rear light clusters - thats all they're bothered about.

It's not really a new thing is it? Young guys, not a lot of money, high insurance, wanting their cars to be individual to attract some girls.

Wasn't my thing when I was younger, but I didn't mind jumping in my mates car to drive 20 miles to get some chips.

So the issue isn't that people don't like loud exhausts - people just don't like young people with big exhausts on cheap cars?

Plenty of cheap cars around with engine notes worthy of a competition spec exhaust. If you insist on buying a shitheap, use a std exhaust.

More youth-jealousy on stw 😉

iamtheresurrection: Having a mini myself (nowhere near as nice spec as yours votchy! but a very tidy build nonetheless) most people dont think its sad, most people love it and will come and talk to you about it when you park! Most of whom talk of when they had a mini in the sixties.

Hey PJ, I didn't mean that driving a Mini is sad. I had a 1275GT for about five months before I realised that's not what a student loan is for - I still really like the original Mini.

I meant that most people would have thought having a non-baffled, loud as **** exhaust was pretty sad. They probably weren't turning to look for any other reason than thinking WTF is that - and not in a good way.

Anyone with half an ouch of brainpower can pick out the difference between a 60hp 1.2 with a 3" straight through and a 300hp 2.0 turbo with a 3" straight through, the engine notes are totally different. Most of the time I don't even raise my head to look. Maybe it's only a few, or those who are into cars, but I can identify a car with the same engine as mine as it drives by without even looking <bows head in self-pity>, likewise I can identify a wet fart in a bean can without looking.

What people don't like is the driving associated with moddified cars. But most modified car clubs attract massive insurance discounts because the owners are more careful drivers. It's the morons that ram-raid halfords and then drive around the car park for hours that cause all the problems. A bit like RLJers and cyclists.

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Now THAT'S an exhaust..

Lousy panel beating mind, and he's installed the bolt-on spoiler completely wrong.

So the issue isn't that people don't like loud exhausts - people just don't like young people with big exhausts on cheap cars?

I just have an issue with people going around looking as well as sounding like cocks. Did you pair your exhaust-the-size-of-a-tunnel with an under-seat sub woofer. Jesus, you must have been like a walking piece of velcro - fanny just sticking to you wherever you wandered. 😆 😆 😆

The exhaust on my MGB is far louder than anything on a saxo etc. I know this as a good mate has a moded saxo and you wouldn't notice it next to the MG.

I love the sound of good cars and bikes for that matter. There is nothing better than sitting in a loud car listening to the burble of the engine, sucking of the K&N filters and the throaty exhaust note.

I also have an endure bike with a Dep pipe, just as loud and equally as good. It screams when you rev the nuts off it.

I think it’s something some people will never understand.

Last time I had my car noise tested the exhaust was 105 dB.... it sounds great !!

I think it’s something some people will never understand.

I'll duck out of this one now, I think it's run it's course.

I can understand that you like the sound, or anybody else on the thread who has a **** off exhaust. As I said, I fitted a Termignoni full system to my Ducati a couple of years back, but I couldn't ride it without the baffles 'cause I just thought I was too much of a nuisance riding out of my estate on a Sunday morning.

Or any other day, time and place for that matter. Clearly a few of you think it's okay, but I just think it's pretty selfish. But hey...

One of these should sort the little chavs out 🙂
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I mean good exhausts, like a V8 with straight pipes ummmmmmm

Not a stranged cat sounding Nova. The crapper the car the bigger the can.

I have an exhaust on my mountain bike....

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alwyn, it's not so much the noise of the car, but the fact that it drones past (often accompanied by many other Ned cars) repeatedly all evening.

But, as you said, perhaps it's something some people will never understand.

One instance - fine. All evening - not fine.

they have it down to a fine art in 'the valleys', notorious hotspot is 'blackwood' they had to take down all the 'speed signs' (the fancy ones which show you how fast you are going) becuase all the boyracers were using them as a drag race to see who could go the fastest.

kids eh!

monkey_boy - even my dad did that.

how old are you then?

they have only been out around here for a few years! 😆

no chav car was quite as loud as my 1980 cavalier skip a few years ago when the manifold broke off 3" from the block

Not those particular ones, before I left home we had one near our house and he always used to see how fast he could go. I’m taking the keys off him when he reaches 60.

thisisnotaspoon, beware of dropping too low. the roads here have some holes over 4 inches deep, remember? lol.

i have new dampers and eibach springs in mine now with only a 30mm drop and although its not as low as it was, it works so much better.

i dropped 60mm to begin with.. what an idiot.

Wife's sister lives right on a main road, Ie...terraced house with no front garden. Loud exhausts are one thing but increasingly these days they're attached to a 300bhp Subaru or something similar. Some nights your taking your life in your hands walking along the footpath.
I fear sadly there will be one of those wilting flower tributes sooner or later.

Roads are not race tracks. Big exhausts, ambitious cornering and tuned engines belong on the track.

Save the money and get a track day car together. Bar some very expensive and notable exceptions, road cars are rubbish. That includes "hot" hatches.

aye but picking out the note of an engine might tell you one thing.but it doesnt tell the whole story.

theres a guy on one of the pug 106 sites thats got about 245bhp out of a tu 1.6 engine.he has spent 30k on the whole thing. most folk jump up and say that its not possible to get that power down in a front wheel drive car with that power but it is.. and its good viewing watching him at track days on the forum.his onboard camera shows him pulling past big jap cars with ease.

track days or thrashes would show a few folk on here what the score is with the cars you see on the streets. its an eye opener.at crail i found out that civic type rs and vxrs werent all they were cracked up to be and the highlights were a lotus elise getting thrashed by a rusty old nova (2 litre engined) by a young loon with his mate in the passenger seat. He also pulled away from me through the last half of the quarter mile with ease.hes the guy that would have gone home with a smile on his face.. the folk in the big fancy cars go home feeling a bit daft.well,the ones that were silly enough to go along side the nova! most hold back to race only their mates as they dont want to be shown up.

so.. after that lesson,i would never smirk at some kid in a nova or corsa (unless it had on some silly bodykit).you dont know whats at the other end of their big exhaust.i do wish they would stop blasting about down the streets too,though.no point.

Indeed, it's usually the noisy but relatively standard looking cars that are the ones that'll catch you out.

Super-lowered cars look like old citroen BX's to me:
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you dont know whats at the other end of their big exhaust

No, you can hear it, if its any good, it'll sound like a highly tuned engine. Some 1300-1400cc rally cars manage to sound great, even with a small lump. If its a 1.1 wet fart, it sounds like a 1.1 wet fart.

nah,the nova with the 2litre engine probably wouldnt have sounded great. but the power to weight ratio throws everything else out the window regardless of it sounding highly tuned or not.it was probably running 80% of what it was when it was new lol.but i agree. some sound like 50cc scooters.

"Save the money and get a track day car together. Bar some very expensive and notable exceptions, road cars are rubbish. That includes "hot" hatches"

but most of the best track day cars are hot hatches.

Roads are not race tracks. Big exhausts, ambitious cornering and tuned engines belong on the track.

This has been covered before.

Save the money and get a track day car together. Bar some very expensive and notable exceptions, road cars are rubbish. That includes "hot" hatches.

Another noisy Mini here too, not as spec'd up as votchys, but was bloody loud. If I gave it some down a street in 2nd gear it'd set a good few car alarms off then pop on the overrun. Used to love hammering it through the Mersey Tunnel 🙂 Had it from when I was 16, rebuilt it, learned to drive in it, drove it for 12 months and sold it when I started wakeboarding to buy a tow car for the boat. Neighbours never moaned as I kept it sensible in residential areas (especially post 7/8pm). Never got stopped by the police once, only time a copper spoke to me when I was in it, was to chat about his Mini.

Roads like this is when I really thrashed it, couldn't beat a sunny sunday out around welsh B-roads...

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Mine was the white one, mates is the yellow.

We live in a fairly quiet corner of our town so don't really have any problems with loud cars, get the odd idiot on a loud motorbike on footpaths across the fields though 😕 And live within a mile of an army training camp, so sometimes end up with choppers flying stupidly low over the house and live firing on weekends and the occasional night each year, now they do keep you awake.

on a track you have things called corners so you have to use your brakes as well as the gearbox and thats when a good driver will get the most out of any car

make the car stop better,make the car lighter(costs nothing)do a few track days and get some instruction on track....then if you feel the need start to play about with the engine, you may find you dont need more power if you learn to drive good on track

while you are doing that the kids with the big exhausts are reving the tits of there cars looking for a hedge to park it in

my mates first track car cost hime £50 a Mk1 MR2 needed work on it but he got about 5 or 6 full days out of it b4 it went to the top of the pile..

ps, it is normally the indution that makes most of the noise not the bean tin sticking out the back end

I had a yellow Mini Clubman 1275GT just like that one - bl00dy rust-bucket and a death trap but I loved it 🙂

make the car stop better,make the car lighter(costs nothing)do a few track days and get some instruction on track....then if you feel the need start to play about with the engine, you may find you dont need more power if you learn to drive good on track

Kind of agree with you there, it's fairly easy to out-perform the braking and suspension of most standard cars, but I'd wonder about its use on the road. To be out-performing your brakes and sus you need to be RIGHT at the limit of your car to enjoy it (I know it well, I used to drive a small hot hatch to its limits - carefully controlling LOOS in a 205 is great fun) and I'd consider that a lot more dangerous than improving the power for straight line accel. Either way, most car enthusiasts perform upgrades to all parts of the car, including brakes and sus along with power increases.

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With this tuning lark, I've always appreciated the stealth approach. You know, looks standard from a distance, but closer up you spot subtle things like big brakes, expensive suspension and odd dials on the dash. No spoilers or big 'zorsts.

I used to have a VW Camper and I once spotted this chap pull in to a meet in this normal looking dark green Beetle. Nobody paid it much attention, but it sounded bassy but quiet, so I strolled over for a chat. The car was clean and tidy, but no show car. It had normal looking Beetle twin pipes, just a bit bigger than standard, in stainless steel....
Turns out he'd had some luck at swapmeets and getting used parts: I don't remember the exact spec but it had some incredible parts under the lid, titanium con rods, strenghtened case, big valve heads, race pistons big Webbers, that sort of thing. I think it was about 2 lites capacity. A big aircooled, certainly. All ported and polished and balanced and properly set up and chucking out over 200bhp or something silly. This was, ohh, 12 years ago or more and he had a glint in his eye when he described how he could easily leave hot hatches for dead, and the look on people's faces when he did so.

That's what I'd do. A silk purse with a bloody great sledgehammer inside. 🙂

PP - yup, that's my route. My only giveaway is the damn 5" exhaust tip.

I often sneer at these souped up hatchbacks but then remind myself of my Hillman Avenger with massive wheels, bigger engine, twin carbs and loads of speakers nicked from the local scrappie - was probably a bit of a knob myself back then......

well its my route too. only the group N exhaust i have is about 46mm internal diameter.after 6k it gets a bit screamy.

someone in Edinburgh once blasted down a street in what i think was a porsche 911 but i didnt see it close up.i stopped walking and i half froze on the spot! never heard anything like that in a town before.

All this talk of tuning, track days - blah blah blah is nonsense when referring to 95% of neds who leaf through the back of Max Power & stick a Magnex end can on their 1.2 Saxo.
All most of them want is a loud exahust, some Spax spings to lower it until the tyres rub the arches and a 'unique' bodykit.

The one's round our way are in no way 'performance' cars. You can easily tell this by the fact that when they hare off from a junction the car is making loads of noise but the revs aren't climbing very quickly and the car isn't getting smaller very quickly either.

As for the Nova - it probably had the red top 2 litre Astra engine stuck in it.
I used to work with a bloke who had a Nova with the same conversion and he was always trying to get the managers to Santa Pod in their M3's and Cayman's. They weren't interested.
I bet the blokes in their hot hatches weren't too bothered about being beaten by the 'Nova'. They probably prefer the better ride quality, soundproofing, safety features, climate control etc. that their modern hatchbacks provide for 99% of the time they are driving them 'normally' to a clapped out heap with a large engine in it for 1% of track time.

As I said, I fitted a Termignoni full system to my Ducati a couple of years back, but I couldn't ride it without the baffles 'cause I just thought I was too much of a nuisance riding out of my estate on a Sunday morning.

Pot.
Kettle.
Black.

Im sure some grumpy so and so mumbled about your tanganoomofantastic exhuast for you ducatti at some point no matter whether you had baffles in or not.

Stop being a grumpy so and so.

You would hate my classic impreza exhaust. Its lovely.

Excessive noise is inconsiderate - whether its noisy exhausts or your neighbour hoovering at 2am.

Just kids being kids? (replace kids with chavs).

Working on two reports from from home, 50cc scooter whizzes by, 1 minute later I can still hear bizzzzzz exhaust noise from it!

Yep mid 30's that'll do it...-lower car insurance premium and higher maturity for an Aston Martin rather than a corsa...usually... 😆

All this talk of tuning, track days - blah blah blah is nonsense when referring to 95% of neds who leaf through the back of Max Power & stick a Magnex end can on their 1.2 Saxo.
All most of them want is a loud exahust, some Spax spings to lower it until the tyres rub the arches and a 'unique' bodykit.

The one's round our way are in no way 'performance' cars. You can easily tell this by the fact that when they hare off from a junction the car is making loads of noise but the revs aren't climbing very quickly and the car isn't getting smaller very quickly either.

As for the Nova - it probably had the red top 2 litre Astra engine stuck in it.
I used to work with a bloke who had a Nova with the same conversion and he was always trying to get the managers to Santa Pod in their M3's and Cayman's. They weren't interested.
I bet the blokes in their hot hatches weren't too bothered about being beaten by the 'Nova'. They probably prefer the better ride quality, soundproofing, safety features, climate control etc. that their modern hatchbacks provide for 99% of the time they are driving them 'normally' to a clapped out heap with a large engine in it for 1% of track time.

But now we are older and richer and have nicer cars we want to look down and laugh at the young kids.