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Increase the use of average speed camera zones nationwide
Its really simple
Get the local folk to designate 10 streches of road that are rat runs, race tracks etc. Buy 1 camera amd a load of empty boxes.
A lot of paint on the road, a few signs to keep it legal.
Then move around the camera once a week to cover the neds favourite boot it stretches of road
Constant revenue stream
Plus logging of uninsured, untaxed vehicles and cars being used by banned drivers
£57k is a good salary by most people’s standards. Around double the average.
It's in the top 5% of earners in the UK, so pretty good is an understatement.
Its not so much the fine that is the deterrent for me. The points would be a blemish on my , so far, exemplary 30 year clean driving record. Not that ive been squeeky clean during that time......
Waze is my friend.
Would smart motorways using average speed cameras to stop the “brake for the camera” behaviour be a good idea?
Judging by the hard of thinking on the Orwell Bridge not a chance. Many of them brake at every camera still and then hare off to brake again!
@theotherjonv 3b You are never allowed to drive again.
4 If you fraudulently obtain and use a blue badge you get a mobility disability inflicted by the state and you get to keep the blue badge.
I mean, I didn’t know speed cameras enforced variable limits. Apart from those average speed check ones which have been around for a while. It’s quite a new thing this SMART Motorways system where the speed cameras also adjust to the variable speed limits and these go off instantly if one doesn’t slow down to the new variable speed straight away.
It’s been that way on the M5 at Bristol either side of the M4/M5 junction, for at least five years, from back when I was driving for BCA, and then there are the average speed cameras through sections of road works, like the twelve-fourteen miles or so on the M5/6 around Birmingham at that time. The M4 has something like thirty miles of camera controlled sections from roughly the Newbury/Basingstoke junction to London, varying between 50-60. I was using my TomTom satnav on my phone through CarPlay all the way on Monday, and that shows average speed as well as current speed, which is very handy along with cruise control, and my EcoSport reads a bit fast on the analog speedo, about 8-10%.
£57K not being much?
Ha! I wish, I’m not badly paid now, compared to previously, but that’s still more than twice my salary.
@theotherjonv I have a 3b subsection 1. As the officer introduces you to the family he simultaneously hands them a cattle prod and damp cloth that they can, at will electrocute your genitals with.
Say you were confused about the metric/imperial units.
What's that in chains per evensong?
That salary after tax, national insurance, etc is not really a lot
Oh yes it is - perhaps double the national average putting you in the richest 10% of the population or even 5%
Its really simple - if you cant do the time don't do the crime.
I have been done for speeding. Both times a bit sneaky ( a 50 mph limit for 2 miles and a camera van on a dual carriageway overtaking bit.)
Matters not one jot. I was speeding, breaking the law and i was caught. fair does. Paid my fine and got my points. the only person who is to blame was me
And to add the OPs further posts show IMo driving without due care an attention - if not reckless driving
You need to either retrain or hand your license in - you are a danger on the roads
You need to either retrain or hand your license in
I'm not convinced the photo on it won't be

Oi - where did you get that photo of me?
You need to either retrain or hand your license in – you are a danger on the roads
I will if I get 12 points.
A danger to the roads ? Apart from car parking and very slow speed accidents, the only bad crash I've been involved in was the other persons fault!
In the same way that your current concern is "just a mistake"? 🙂
If I ever get to 12 points I will hand my license in for however long the ban is. Not when someone on this forum suggests I do so.
As for dangers to the roads, the real problem is all these ****s who are very often tailgating me when I'm driving at or just slightly above the limit.
As for dangers to the roads, the real problem is all these **** who are very often tailgating me when I’m driving at or just slightly above the limit.
Much as I also dislike it, tailgating doesn't make it onto the list of the Fatal Four. So it's annoying but they're not 'the real problem' at all.
As for dangers to the roads, the real problem is all these **** who are very often tailgating me when I’m driving at or just slightly above the limit.
Be sure to tell the court/police that if they get in touch, should tell them all they need to know about your ‘mistake’.
Sometimes tailgaters get what they deserve. Yesterday I was overtaken on the Leighton Buzzard bypass heading towards the A5. An older BMW followed by a brand new convertible Merc. BMW doing at least 90, Merc going even faster. Merc gets right up the arse of the BMW which then accelerates hard kicking out a huge cloud of black smoke into the face of the Merc which was being driven with the top down. Ha ha
or just slightly above the limit.
You utter clown. You just don't get it, do you?
I never knew these variable speed limits were so strict otherwise I would have paid more attention and slowed down a lot sooner.
So admitting to driving without due care an attention
I mean, I didn’t know speed cameras enforced variable limits
IOgnorance of the law is no excuse.
Yes, I was doing in the low 70’s to account for the speedometre overreading and was only intending to do 70mph.
So deliberatly breaking th enational speed limit even before hitting the 50 limit
No it was just a mistake. I never knew much about Smart Motorways until now, and never realised that the reduced speeds were so mandatory.
I never thought they were any more serious than the advisory limits. I think it’s because Smart motorways are a relatively new thing and I never really researched what they are until now.
I rarely drive, I live in scotland where there are no "smart motorways". I know what smart motorways are and how speed limits work
I never knew SMART Motorways have been in place for 15 years.
Again - ignorance of the law is no excuse You have a requirement to understand road law if you want the privilege of driving
But not reacting to a variable speed limit in time, when the motorway looks clear as far as I could see, it’s just a mistake.
You were already deliberately driving over the national speed limit. YOu then ignored a reduced speed limit. Its not for you to decide when limits are needed
I would invoke hattersleys law if I were you - " When in a hole stop digging"
I really hope this is a wake up call for you and you bring your standard of driving up to a basic minimum to make you safe because at the moment your ignorance and entitled attitude makes you an unsafe driver.

