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So...who's going to be our next PM?

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80,000 people just elected our Prime Minister


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:39 pm
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Closer than I thought.

Conservative Leadership Election Result:

Liz Truss: 57.4%
Rishi Sunak: 42.6%


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:39 pm
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60k votes for sunak, 80k for truss..


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:39 pm
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Ooh, closer than I thought it would be.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:40 pm
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What’s wrong with being a Liberal Democrat??

Nowt so long as you are a libdem and dont want to take over Labour and turn it into the libdems.
Well unless you are an orange book version.

Lot closer than expected. Not a good start for her.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:41 pm
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What’s wrong with being a Liberal Democrat?? (asking for a friend)

They just like throwing that at Binners, despite him being just about the only consistent Labour member, supporter and voter that posts on this forum regularly.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:41 pm
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Can I put a fiver on Liz to win?


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:41 pm
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From what I’ve seen, it’d be hard to overestimate her.

I think she's an intellectual and moral vacuum, but it's a mistake to believe that she's stupid.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:42 pm
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Eurgh this speech. Sounds like they need a flashing applause sign.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:42 pm
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I’m genuinely struggling to think of a candidate who was realistically in the running who wasn’t either thicker than refrigerated Marmite or just downright evil

We disagree there.

Johnson was supposed to be smart - I never saw any of that.

I don't think she's thick at all - she says some daft things - but she knows how to get elected.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:42 pm
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From what I’ve seen, it’d be hard to overestimate her.

Aside from comments by Labour politicians and staffers do suggest she is a lot better than she comes across in public. Which admittedly isnt hard.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:42 pm
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They just like throwing that at Binners, despite him being just about the only consistent Labour member, supporter and voter that posts on this forum regularly.

That's an interesting rewriting of history.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:42 pm
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Truss' acceptance speech - pure cringe! 😆😆 Tory HQ audience members not sure whether to stay silent or clap.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:43 pm
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Obviously you need to read the FT link to see the graphs which the article is referring to.

Because of course, Tories have a solid track record of actually doing what they say they're going to do.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:43 pm
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18% of eligible voters didn't vote; that is a surprisingly high number.
As for the result, much closer than I had expected.
Far short of a ringing endorsement for truss.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:44 pm
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Will she "deliver" my shopping too???


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:44 pm
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They just like throwing that at Binners, despite him being just about the only consistent Labour member, supporter and voter that posts on this forum regularly.

Not the same as left-wing so it's not the token you think it is.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:44 pm
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Pork markets, pork markets, pork markets


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:44 pm
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I'm feeling richer already......


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:45 pm
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It amused me when the beeb sent a reporter to Leicester station to interview an outraged commuter on a strike day only to find everyone supported the strikers. Interesting protests in Germany. It's a mistake to get hung up on who's saying what in the parliamentary parties, the pressure for change will not come from there.
Also it's a bit of a misnomer to be bandying about Weberian-type status terms like working class and middle class; if you sell your labour you're objectively working class whatever the 'cut above' you might see yourself as. Plus many maybe older and comfortably off people see what damage is being done to their kids' prospects. People's consciousness can change pretty quickly and when people are desperate they often act.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:49 pm
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They just like throwing that at Binners, despite him being just about the only consistent Labour member, supporter and voter that posts on this forum regularly.

No one on STW has attacked a Labour Party leader more than binners has.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:49 pm
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Wow, always struggled to understand Tories. Now they totally dumbfound me. What am I missing?


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:49 pm
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Johnson was supposed to be smart – I never saw any of that.

He managed to plot a path to become the PM of the UK even though he's got more baggage than Heathrow.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:49 pm
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No one on STW has attacked a Labour Party leader more than binners has.

In chat? Yes. He still worked to try and get him elected, and voted Labour at both general elections when he was leader. Did you?


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:51 pm
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Prime Minister Truss

I'm convinced more than ever that were living in an Armando Iannuci simulation


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:51 pm
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I genuinely believe your average person on the street with a high school education would make a better PM than this clown.

And I’m not talking about her right wing policies, I’m talking about general intellectual capacity, of which she has very very little


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:53 pm
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I blame Corbyn for all of this


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:54 pm
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Once you become part of the group that is struggling – everyone’s a socialist.

The massive lurch to of the right by the struggling / left behind / forgotten people of this country would suggest something to the contrary.

But I hope you're right and they come around eventually.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:54 pm
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I think she’s an intellectual and moral vacuum, but it’s a mistake to believe that she’s stupid.

She's an intellectual vacuum but isn't stupid? How's that work?


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:54 pm
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I blame Corbyn for all of this

I blame Boris Johnson for all this (EDIT: with a special mention for Nigel Farage).


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:56 pm
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No one on STW has attacked a Labour Party leader more than binners has.

As far as I could tell, Binners' vitriol was because he was a labour supporter and was frustrated by their leader.

Though, you're not wrong.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:56 pm
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I guess now she's PM the tabloids can publish all the lurid stories of her shagging exploits. Something tells me where Boris was lauded as a jack the lad she will get exactly the opposite treatment.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:56 pm
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The only socialism doled out in this country will be by eye-watering tax-payer-funded handouts to shareholders and CEO's.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:58 pm
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She’s an intellectual vacuum but isn’t stupid? How’s that work?

She'll always be Thick Lizzie to me.

Sponsored by Deliveroo, if her speech is anything to go by. Although "deliver, deliver, deliver" is tricky when the posties are on strike.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:58 pm
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Something tells me where Boris was lauded as a jack the lad she will get exactly the opposite treatment.

I think they’ll give her just as easy a ride in that regard. No matter who she makes chancellor of the exchequer…

Now she’s Conservative leader, the papers will get behind her ‘till well after their readers are overwhelmingly against her.


 
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It amused me when the beeb sent a reporter to Leicester station to interview an outraged commuter on a strike day only to find everyone supported the strikers. Interesting protests in Germany. It’s a mistake to get hung up on who’s saying what in the parliamentary parties, the pressure for change will not come from there.

Despite the doom, gloom, defeatism, and "there is no other way" of centrist politicians, there is growing evidence that globally neo-liberalism is starting to lose its grip.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/398303/approval-labor-unions-highest-point-1965.aspx


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:59 pm
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She’s an intellectual vacuum but isn’t stupid? How’s that work?

I've known lots of people that I'd struggle to call intellectual or moral but were far from stupid when it came to positioning themselves.

We've all had that boss..............................


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:59 pm
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She’s an intellectual vacuum but isn’t stupid? How’s that work?

Pretty easily. She's not a deep or original thinker, and we can forget hearing any dazzling insights from her. That's not to say she isn't extremely savvy - for one thing she's PM and you and I aren't.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 1:59 pm
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Tighter that I had it, I bet she spends 6 weeks flying round the world telling everyone she is prime minister.
She can start with Scotland that will be nice for her.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 2:00 pm
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I blame Boris Johnson for all this.

It's turtles all the way down, man.

Mostly I blame Cameron. The oily porcine-abuser caused all of this and then ran away humming a jaunty tune as soon as shit got real. I'd cheerfully set him on fire and put the flames out with a cricket bat.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 2:00 pm
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@cougar

who wasn’t either thicker than refrigerated Marmite

Stealing this


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 2:01 pm
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caused all of this and then ran away humming a jaunty tune

And framed his lobbying law to allow him to make his big money.

Corrupt, self serving… and totally protected from the mess he left the rest of us in.


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 2:01 pm
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Cameron he got away clean from the mess he was to weak to stop.
Nasty oink


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 2:02 pm
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Truss has failed her way to the top. Without Brexit and Johnson's tendency to appoint cabinet ministers who were either bad enough to make him look good or foaming Brexit zealots, Truss would have never got near the front bench, never mind PM. After Cameron, May, Johnson, and now Truss, surely the game must be up?


 
Posted : 05/09/2022 2:04 pm
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Once you become part of the group that is struggling – everyone’s a socialist.

I think history rather shows the opposite, people who are struggling tend to focus first and foremost on themselves and family which is understandable. It's the middle classes who tend to think more about others, it's a lot easier to be generous when you're comfortably off.


 
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