MegaSack DRAW - This year's winner is user - rgwb
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3 points /£60.
arse.
any tips for how to get out of it....
Tell them someone else was driving, where it asks for thier address on the form, give one in Dubai or some other far away place.
any tips for how to get out of it....
Slow down.
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lol the last time I got a speeding fine and mentioned it on here, I got majorly flamed! Must be a saturday and everyone is out on their bikes 😀
As Fithy says, but give them a false name at a freinds house, the freind then says they were lodging but left no forwarding addy.
You do risk time if rumbled tho
You got caught speeding, you got fined. No use moaning about it.
'Oh life's sooo unfair...'
MTFU
Drive faster so they can't see your number plate. 😡
I always try to have my car sliding along the road sideways for the length of the markers. It's a bit tricky and sometimnes very dangerous, but hey - anything's better than sticking within the speed limit.
Elfinsafety - Member
You got caught speeding, you got fined. No use moaning about it.'Oh life's sooo unfair...'
MTFU
predictable to the letter...
to be honest, I probably should get done for driving without due care and attention as well for not spotting the van. but I'm not and my first ticket in the last 400,000 miles isnt a bad ratio...
You can tell the one's on here who don't have a motor vehicle, by the rude chip on the shoulder attitude!
These days if you give them the old "don't know who was driving" routine you get hit with £500 and 6 points.
If you where speeding take it on the chin.
If you feel you where not, then go to court and fight it.
Your choice.
Spongebob - Member
You can tell the one's on here who don't have a motor vehicle, by the rude chip on the shoulder attitude!
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The speed limit is imposed to try and reduce the number of road accidents. Which is a good reason for having one, no?
Fines/points/bans are imposed to punish transgressers, and to hopefully act as a deterrent to others.
The laws are clear, and apply to everyone equally.
So why moan about getting done for speeding, when you've actually been speeding? S'a bit like getting nicked for shoplifting then moaning about it!
S'not being 'rude', it's just being frank. If you don't like it, then don't speed. Simples. 😀
Try and get a speed awareness course instead?
I got caught doing 78 in a 70 and sent them a letter back with my form stating how sorry i was etc etc etc got a speed awareness course instead. Still costs you £60 but no points.
Just accept the points and get over it unless you are hitting 12 (and a ban) in which case you are an idiot to have got to that many points.
As for those people suggesting it wasn't you driving, that'll be perverting the course of justice and you'll get banged up for it. Don't be a tool just accept it and move on.
The speed limit is imposed to try and reduce the number of road accidents. Which is a good reason for having one, no?Fines/points/bans are imposed to punish transgressers, and to hopefully act as a deterrent to others.
The laws are clear, and apply to everyone equally.
So why moan about getting done for speeding, when you've actually been speeding? S'a bit like getting nicked for shoplifting then moaning about it!
S'not being 'rude', it's just being frank. If you don't like it, then don't speed. Simples.
I wholeheartedly agree with you 🙂
Try and get a speed awareness course instead?I got caught doing 78 in a 70 and sent them a letter back with my form stating how sorry i was etc etc etc got a speed awareness course instead. Still costs you £60 but no points.
BUT still puts your insurance up 😉
You don't have to tell your insurance about the speed awareness course that's the point of it!! To encourage people to learn something without it affecting their insurance. It depends on what speed you got doing in what limit.
As Elfin says, if you were speeding, you were breaking the law. You don't expect to be able to get away with breaking the law do you?
If I nicked your bike, posted on a forum saying I'd done it, would you be happy if I got away with nothing? It's just the same, except more people are killed, maimed or injured from speeding than from bike theft.
Pay the fine and stop breaking the law.
You don't have to tell your insurance about the speed awareness course that's the point of it!! To encourage people to learn something without it affecting their insurance. It depends on what speed you got doing in what limit.
It's still classed as a conviction so the insurance company needs to be informed
If you can't do the time don't do the crime.
<notbeingholierthanthou> take it on the chin, or risk loads of money and a major ****ing by the man <notbeingholierthanthou>
Admiarlable - you don't have to tell your insuance. It isn't a prosecution and hence you haven't been convicted. That's the whole point of the scheme, to encourage people to be educated about speeding and the dangers, they pay a fee and hence don't get points or a fine. IE don't get prosecuted and hence you don't have to tell your insurance. the police are the prosecuting authority and they are offering the scheme instead of prosecution.
Admiarlable - you don't have to tell your insuance. It isn't a prosecution and hence you haven't been convicted. That's the whole point of the scheme, to encourage people to be educated about speeding and the dangers, they pay a fee and hence don't get points or a fine. IE don't get prosecuted and hence you don't have to tell your insurance.
But it is an "incident".
The law on disclosure is that you must declare any fact that a prudent underwriter would take into account when assessing the risk. Failure to disclose such a fact allow the Insurer to void the Insurance and refuse any claims. There is no definition as to what constitutes a material fact - that is for the courts to decide.
The failure to disclose does not need to be relevant to any claim. For example failure to disclose a motoring conviction, if deemed material, would allow the Insurer to avoid paying a theft claim
In practice in view of the draconian effects of non disclosure it is best to err on the side of caution and let the Insurer decide if it is material.
The logic behind this law is that an Insurance contract is very much a one sided affair as far as assessing the risk is concerned. You have all the facts and the Insurer has none. There have been a number of proposals to change this law but Insurers are, understandably very reluctant to go down this path as they see it as their major defence against fraud.
And then there's Utmost good faith. So insurers take what is given them at face value but if something isn't mentioned then it can give them cause to invalidate the insurance. That would mean you don't have to mention the Speed awareness course, like you wouldn't have to mention an IN10 but don't expect to be covered or paying the same price if they find out or you have an accident.
Elfinsafety - Member
You got caught speeding, you got fined. No use moaning about it.'Oh life's sooo unfair...'
MTFU
jam bo - Member
predictable to the letter...
The point isn't to come up with a witty unpredictable reply. Pay the fine and drive a bit more cautiously, that's how it works.
Or keep doing the speeding and aim for the record number of points 8O. Apparently there is someone on UK roads with 54 points and still driving. Imagine what their insurance is like.
what's so special about you that you think you shouldn't pay the fine/get the points like everyone else?
Admiralable
Not sure you are right on that. These days they are very very specific about what they want to know including accidents of any sort (not just claims) and [i]convictions[/i]. There is no conviction with a speed awareness course, in fact they write to you saying they are not going to prosecute.
The logical extension of what you say would be that if you were pulled over by the police, and told to drive a bit more slowly, and then sent on your way, you should inform your insurers as you had been caught and stopped by the police whilst breaking road traffic laws.
And I am pretty sure the instructor on my course said we didn't have to...
These days if you give them the old "don't know who was driving" routine you get hit with £500 and 6 points.
You should tell them that you don't know who was driving.
Stoatsbrother correct. Not a conviction not an accident.
Sorry but speeding does not kill .
bad driving ( stupid ) and also bad weather + speeding etc does
80 per cent speed every day and 80 per cent die ???
no i think not .
SPEED DOES NOT KILL (the impact does)
Think yourself lucky that you're not on the Isle Of Man.
All our speeding tickets have to he heard at court, although you don't have to attend in person.
Our speeding fines start at £150 + court costs, not to mention the 3 points as well!!!
£60 is a bargain 8)
bad driving ( stupid ) and also bad weather + speeding etc does
Not this again.
No-one's stupid enough to think that simply crossing 70mph causes death.
Speeding makes accidents more likely, and the consequences of accidents worse. Therefore, a certain number of people will die because speeds were higher. Speed is therefore responsible for deaths in those cases.
Speed vs inappropriate speed. Two very different things.
That being said, take the fine/points. Most insurers couldn't give a toss about an SP30 if it's your first and only.
littlelordfauntleroy - yaaaaawn.
littlelordfauntleroy - MemberSorry but speeding does not kill
And it doesn't get you 3 points and a £60 fine.........it's getting caught what does that.
So what's jam bo's problem ?
anyone fishing tonight
of out now going to do 41 in 40 so good night all have a good life as i will not be on this site ever again if what some say is true ?
wish me luck
cheers all 😆
Most insurers couldn't give a toss about an SP30 if it's your first and only
So true, adding my Dad and his three points onto my insurance knocked a 100 quid off the cost 🙂
Confused.
If I get a speeding fine, and stump up the £60 and get 3 points, do I need to tell my insurers? Even if I don't get the awareness course?
I thought no, because the only time this happened I thought they said it wasn't a prosecution if I just paid the fine without arguing.
So - is this a prosection, do I need include it in the list of prosecutions for my insurance?
Yes definitely if you have points. Not telling them invalidates your insurance.
[url= http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/8397378.Surgeon_said_drive_ban_could_cost_patient_lives/ ]Claim you are a surgeon[/url] and getting done would mean putting lives at risk. Works round here!
Smacks of a job creation scheme to me, mow a few down speeding then stitch them back up the next day at work
That'll teach you 😆
That'll teach you
Yep. Not to get caught again...
The speed limit is imposed to try and reduce the number of road accidents. Which is a good reason for having one, no?Fines/points/bans are imposed to punish transgressers, and to hopefully act as a deterrent to others.
The laws are clear, and apply to everyone equally.
Unless you are the Pope.
So far I've seen his car speeding, driving on the wrong side of the road, driving through red lights, and when he's waving to the crowd you'll notice he isn't wearing a seat belt.
All those police around and not one of them attempted to apprehend him or his driver.
One rule for the masses, one rule for heads of churches. IIRC The Queen gets the same treatment.
I'm going to start up my own religion and will demand the same rights.
Move to Ireland. The cameras are grey and almost invisible. The upshot is North of Dublin seem to house only a couple of them. Everybody knows and slows down. And with the roads as poor as we have you will slow down anyway.
jam bo:
I'm sure you're sort of local to me, but can't remember exactly!
There's been a couple of recent cases this past year where some have lied/sworn someone else was driving, but subsequent closer inspection by Mr Plod showed categorically they were actually the ones driving. The attempt to decieve lead to a jail sentence. A lady in Plymouth was one, going down the straight off Marsh Mills roundabout into the city, another was a biker on the A38. Both went down for it.
It might be better to take it on the chin I'm afraid, as alternatives might lead to worse things....
If you're still Devon based, where was the camera....just so's I'm not done!
cheers
Q
Admirable a speed awareness course does not affect your insurance.
They even tell you that at the speed awareness course.
It is NOT classified as a conviction.
[url= http://www.staffssaferroads.co.uk/ive-had-a-ticket/ndor-schemes/speed-awareness-course ]Speed Awareness Course[/url]
Remember, if you are eligible and elect to take the Speed Awareness Course, you do not have to pay the fine, you won't get the penalty points and above all, you don't have to tell your insurance company because the speeding offence is cancelled.
for not spotting the van
Nobody said they were stopping using the vans! Infact they said they'll turn the Gatsos off and put the funds into more vans!
Speeding Awareness Fail.
Hainey that's what I was trying to tell him too.....
speeding isn't like shoplifting,
shoplifiting causes someone else problems, speed limits are there to try and limit speed incase of a crash, but you should fine those that cause accidents etc... as someone's been affected by your speed.
If I drive at 85 for 4 hours to get from south coast to lakes, and don't hit anyone, cause anyone to swerve etc... what problems have I caused.
Laws are there to stop people from causing harm to each other.
Nice logic stufield.
If I drive at 85 for 4 hours to get from south coast to lakes, and don't hit anyone, cause anyone to swerve etc... what problems have I caused.Laws are there to stop people from causing harm to each other.
Do you understand how Law actually works?
What if everybody decided to drive at 85mph for 4 hours to the Lakes?
What if everybody decided to drive at 85mph for 4 hours to the Lakes?
None of them would manage it as the road would be gridlocked.
OTOH if you're not suggesting extra people going to the lakes, and just that all the existing drivers drove at 85, then what a brilliant idea. No overtaking, no lane changing - that would be wonderfully safe (if a little boring).
If you dont tell the insurance about everything they will use everything and anything to get out of paying up. sort of like driving around with no insurance at all.. only by having it in the first place,it will keep the police off yer back when using the car on the road. but thats where it stops.. if you cause an accident or get involved,then its all been a waste of your money and time ringing them up for cover in the first place.
OTOH if you're not suggesting extra people going to the lakes, and just that all the existing drivers drove at 85, then what a brilliant idea. No overtaking, no lane changing - that would be wonderfully safe (if a little boring).
That would be ace,
Until some eejit decides to undertake at 95, someone reacts by braking...
If everyone were driving at 70, reaction distances would have been greater...