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<snip>but I claimed off the house insurance for accidental damage. Incidentally that included two crowns and new fingers/hands. <snip>

Ooo, that must have hurt, Nasty accident indeed 😉


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 1:46 pm
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What does a watch 'service' actually entail?

Emptying your bank account, apparently.


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 1:47 pm
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It's the 3 months that gets me.
Why?
Do they have so many failed watches to fix?
or is it one old bloke in the corner of the factory?
Either way it's incompetent, so I'd service it and sell it.


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 1:48 pm
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And it's going to cost £580

I could buy a car for that*

*(but not a bike, obviously)


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 1:50 pm
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Probably takes so long as it spends 10 days or so fixed to a machine that winds it and checks accuracy... well its the reason mu Rolex took a fair while to come back....


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 1:54 pm
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If you need a watch to find out the time, a cheap digital one will do the job.

If you like the look of a nice watch as a piece of jewellery, then what does it matter whether or not it actually works?

Naughty boy - stop that now!

DrP


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 1:55 pm
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Cost £4400

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Cost £4083

You'll find that one of these things will need serviced way more than the other, need parts replaced more often, and will be replaced a whole lot quicker.

Everyone see's the value of things differently


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 2:11 pm
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If you need a watch to find out the time, a cheap digital one will do the job.

If you like the look of a nice watch as a piece of jewellery, then what does it matter whether or not it actually works?

Wearing both would lower the nice piece of jewelry effect ?


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 2:29 pm
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A proper watch service means completely stripping the caliber back to it's parts, cleaning and replacing any that are worn or broken and reassembling using the right lubricants and so forth. Then it will be regulated over a period of several days and in a number of different positions to ensure it is keeping good time.
Russell Talerman in London is good for a reasonably priced service.

Tag are known for their rip off pricing wanted 100 quid to replace a battery for my wife's watch the local jeweller did it for a fiver, it's not pressure tested but she screwed the watch back on very tight so I expect it'll stand the local pool.


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 2:43 pm
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You'll find that one of these things will need serviced way more than the other, need parts replaced more often, and will be replaced a whole lot quicker.

One of them will provide a fantastic experience, a healthy lifestyle, make you grin and laugh like a kid and generally give you a brilliant life-affirming experience. It costs about 3x a solid entry level equivalent and is a fair bit nicer to use.

The other looks good (to some) but otherwise does exactly the same job as a solid entry level equivalent and costs 100x more.

Not a good analogy 🙂


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 2:44 pm
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Julesburger, so you take a perfectly functional watch and for no reason strip it down and rebuild it? Doesn't sound line a service to me. A service by definition is to replace consumable parts, othetwise its a repair, not a service. What's consumable in a watch?


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 4:41 pm
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That's what they do, I'm not a horologist so dont ask me why but when I've had old watches I've bought serviced that is what happened. I think the point is if it's not working properly you have it serviced if it keeps good time leave it alone! Think about this in a year a decent mechanical watch beats at 18000 BPH that's a lot of movement and hence the potential for wear is quite high.M Maybe that's why quality mechanical watches are well regarded by many, getting them working consistently to a high accuracy is the height of mechanical engineering. I refer you to the whole longtitude thing.


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 4:46 pm
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wobbliscott - all those little wibbly wobbly spinny bits that sit inside the watch need to be wibbling and wobbling and spinning to keep the thing working. Because they're all wibbling and wobbling and spinning there will be a chance of some mechanical wear etc. So if you're going to service one for a customer wouldn't you take them all apart to check the axles/pivots/whatever are still in good nick etc. Same as you do when you service a hub or forks - take it all apart, clean it up, put it back together again, but on a much smaller and more precise scale.


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 4:53 pm
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The watch is an Ebel BTR GMT, it was a 30th present from the wife

Just googled - that appears to be north of £2.5K worth of thing. I can't even concieve of having been in the position to buy each other £2.5K presents when I was 30. Dosn't really matter if it's a bike, a car or a watch - it's a £2.5K pressie! Doing it now 11 years later would still completely clear me out, and a bit. Buying her engagement ring for £1.5K at about that age crippled me for ages.

You sir are one lucky chap! What did she get when it was her turn for the significant birthday present?


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 5:11 pm
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But different people are in differing financial positions and have varying priorities. When I was a youth I lusted after a Roly and bought one age 22 with my first decent salary cheque. I was in a position to do so as are many, many others. Sadly, some are not.

It's the old how do you dispose of your disposable income conundrum. You know what, some people even stick it up their noses 😯


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 5:21 pm
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Am now 40, have two kids and far far less money than I had when I was 30, the age it was bought at doesn't make a blind bit of difference.


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 5:40 pm
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Sounds like a nice watch and to pay a not insignificant sum to service a watch that cost a bit I significant sum is to be expected isn't it?

Seems a bit like complaining about a Ferrari costing more for a main dealer service than a Mondeo.


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 5:47 pm
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All watches tell you time....

All bikes take you from a to b.

All cars take you from a to b.

Small house or large house ?

Horses for courses and all.......

Ps.. Nice watch by the way


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 5:53 pm
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If it's too much money and you can't afford it don't bother and sell the watch.
If you can afford it stop showing off on here that you are superior to us.
Either way we don't care


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 6:00 pm
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But care enough to post 😉


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 6:04 pm
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Am now 40, have two kids and far far less money than I had when I was 30, the age it was bought at doesn't make a blind bit of difference.

It's more what you were capable of spending - I am not poor by any stretch and wasn't at 30 either but I can't imagine me (or any of my friends who are mostly graduates in a graduate jobs) having had £2.5K in the bank at 30, let alone £2.5K in the bank that I could afford to spend on a present and not being saved up to replace the car when the current one died or for a deposit for a house.

Not critising you at all - just very envious! Then again, now we having a fair bit more disposable income we still buy each other quite small gifts so maybe we are just tight!


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 6:05 pm
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And it's going to cost £580

You could buy a new mobile phone to tell the time with that - who needs a watch anyway?!

Commiserations, anyway; the hazards of owning a fine piece of engineering, I guess. Not looking forward to my watch's service, but being coaxial it should be 10 years+, I think


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 6:09 pm
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my car service cost £800 and took 2 days.


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 6:22 pm
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Again, lucky you don't care..... 🙂


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 6:44 pm
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iolo, don't know why you bothered posting, we don't care.

I is confused.
If you need a watch to find out the time, a cheap digital one will do the job.
If you like the look of a nice watch as a piece of jewellery, then what does it matter whether or not it actually works?

The two watches I wear on a day-to-day basis are a £75 Casio G-Shock, which is distinctly average when it comes to time keeping, about five minutes out at the mo', but it's such a bugger to alter I leave it; you have to keep the bloody button pressed in while the hands slowly crawl round'n'round'n'round'n'round'n'round'n'round'n'...
My £350 Seiko is currently 16 seconds slow, over the same six month period. One's a quartz movement, the other mechanical.
I wear the Casio to work, 'cos it doesn't matter about shoving my hands into machines full of hard, sharp corners, whereas it would really upset me if my Seiko got damaged. Yes it's a piece of jewellery, but it has a thoroughly practical use, unlike many other form of adornment, which can cost much more, like diamond encrusted signet rings. I mean, [i]why![/i] Nobody uses sealing wax any more. Or huge, chunky gold chains.


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 7:15 pm
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Nicko, unfortunately that's not the case, I didn't even make three years....


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 7:15 pm
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Coaxial movement? argh...


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 7:18 pm
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One of them will provide a fantastic experience, a healthy lifestyle, make you grin and laugh like a kid and generally give you a brilliant life-affirming experience. It costs about 3x a solid entry level equivalent and is a fair bit nicer to use.

Lol, an entry level bike is not £1500. A £4500 bike isn't any different from a £500 one in the categories you list as important. Where a Rolex will draw admiring glances, a Casio will leave a girl wondering if you still live with your mum 😉


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 7:29 pm
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Yup, 3 yr "guarantee" on a planet ocean, there was a tiny mark on the bezel and therefore they deemed this as being a "knock"
It's come back with another 2yr guarantee and nice and shiny etc but the warranty card seems a little bit worthless...


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 7:30 pm
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Where a Rolex will draw admiring glances

that depends upon the company you keep, the majority of people I hang around with would openly take the mickey if I started wearing a rolex or similar bling watch


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 8:35 pm
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I don't remember ever discussing watches with women,they seemed to be more impressed by the size of my dick. :mrgreen:


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 8:42 pm
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Yes, it must be difficult for you stopping them laughing.... 🙂


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 9:02 pm
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that depends upon the company you keep, the majority of people I hang around with would openly take the mickey if I started wearing a rolex or similar bling watch

Yes, and your mum would probably start charging you rent too 🙁


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 11:21 pm
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Where a Rolex will draw admiring glances, a Casio will leave a girl wondering if you still live with your mum

Mods - I claim my £5 finders fee for discovering a [s]****[/s] troll on the forum, £5 paypal payment to address in profile please................. any girl/woman who expresses that sort of attitude or even hints at a sneer in my company would very quickly get told to ****-off.


 
Posted : 30/07/2013 11:45 pm
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Yes, and your mum would probably start charging you rent too

don't think there is enough room for two in the coffin, oh hang on she's been dead 15yrs so maybe there is now 😯

obviously there is a sad section of society that thinks a bling watch marks them out as an important grown up member of society, you know what they say about fools & their money 😉


 
Posted : 31/07/2013 7:28 am
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But there's also a section who like things such as this. Makes you no less a person actually wanting one and then actually managing to buy one. I'd love a new full susser to replace my now seriously tired (nearly) 4 yr old one, but as I've got more important things (like treating my kids to the best stuff we can) to spend on then it's well down the list. Each to their own I say and to those who can't afford, unlucky!


 
Posted : 31/07/2013 8:29 am
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Each to their own I say and to those who can't afford, unlucky!

I've no problem with people owning or buying whatever they like, just amused by people who do so & then think others will/should be impressed!


 
Posted : 31/07/2013 8:54 am
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I've no problem with people owning or buying whatever they like, just amused by people who do so & then think others will/should be impressed! [i]

Exactly this. To be fair, I likely wouldn't notice anyway.

Does mine count as vintage now? Animal watch bought in 1996 with my first uni grant cheque!


 
Posted : 31/07/2013 9:07 am
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We have three guys at work that keep going on about watches, and how expensive theirs were.
All three have personalised registration plates on their big shiny black cars with blacked out windows. The plates all depict their initials or some tenuous link to their name (in case they can't remember which car is theirs, I imagine).
They could have saved on this expense though, because to find their car, all they would have to do is look in the nearest disabled space.
Nobbers.

You are right though, none of them lives with their mum.


 
Posted : 31/07/2013 9:09 am
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there's a one armed geezer on bolton market who does watches, bet he'd fix it for a fiver.

Animal watch bought in 1996 with my first uni grant cheque
🙂 got one circa 97, still my fave watch but don't bother wearing one most of the time now. Needs a new battery too and animal want £12 for it, robbing bleeders!

😉


 
Posted : 31/07/2013 9:32 am
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Animal watch bought in 1996

I've got a circa 94 one that was still going great then somehow I seem to have lost it in the last couple of months - very annoying 😡 It must worth...I don't know...50p?


 
Posted : 31/07/2013 9:37 am
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Has anyone pointed out yet that you could have just bought a replica for £120 and the wife would be none the wiser?

http://www.enwatchesale.co.uk/replica-ebel-1911-btr-gmt-1215624-men-watch-p-5658.html

🙂


 
Posted : 31/07/2013 9:39 am
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I must admit tho I do look at other peoples bikes and think jammy bastard I'd love one of those. Where as I don't do that with watches. I just like mine because my wife bought it for me...


 
Posted : 31/07/2013 9:43 am
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My Tag Heur Formula 1 cost £85 in 1989, last year it went in for a new battery, service and plastic strap = £250!!! I asked for it to be returned, but it seems they carried out the work because it now works again!!! (Anyone wanna buy it? Same as the one JMC won, complete with display box & card box.)


 
Posted : 31/07/2013 9:59 am
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Where a Rolex will draw admiring glances, a Casio will leave a girl wondering if you still live with your mum

Proper lol, although I'm not a Rolex fan by any means.

Re the cost for the OP - I would live to see a breakdown of how this price is arrived at but you are looking at a highly skilled watchmaker doing a job that will have taken years to learn and involve many hours of labour. To put it in perspective, how much does a main car dealer charge per hour?

3 months seems a bit ridiculous though. Does it get returned to the factory at any point?


 
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