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Need to redo a bathroom. Well, technically a wet room at the moment and there's no bath in it (or in the house).

Ideally I'd have a bath in it, with a shower over, but it's a small room - 216x125cm. There seem to be various options to make things work, but wondering about practicalities....

So have you got a small bathroom, what's the layout like and how is it in use? Pics would be a bonus*

*of the bathroom. Not in use. That's an altogether different thread.


 
Posted : 30/10/2014 7:33 pm
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Those measurements shouldnt read cm's? 😉

Can you swap a third (?) Bedroom to a bathroom I.e swap use?

Got a pic?


 
Posted : 30/10/2014 7:39 pm
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No pic to hand, and yes, it's tiny.

Could swap a 3rd bedroom but then it'd be a massive bathroom...

We've also got a utility room/bathroom downstairs that's much larger. Direct entry from the garden, so I can come in from a ride, and get myself and my clothes in the wash before going in the house. So that part's sorted. Just want a bath in the house for potential future child-bathing and a decent shower for upstairs.


 
Posted : 30/10/2014 8:13 pm
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I'm almost in the same boat... In the process of buying a place with a small bathroom (maybe not that small though).

We went round the stores at the weekend - what was a revelation was TINY SINKS!
You can get really tiny ones - about the size of an a4 sheet of paper. You then realise "why do I need a bit old sink??!!,".

That's a start!

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Posted : 30/10/2014 9:01 pm
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You could go for a 1500 or 1600 bath running down the long wall, toilet at the end of the bath at 90 degrees to the bath and a basin opposite the toilet. Carron baths do a nice 1600 bath with a rounded corner which would open up a little space at the end of the bath for access to the toilet.


 
Posted : 30/10/2014 9:14 pm
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The bathroom in our flat is probably that small, slightly different dimensions, but it's easy enough to make a decent, useable bathroom.

Have you thought of a corner bath? You can get 1200 x 1200 mm, which would leave a lot more space for everything else than a conventional oblong one would. If oblong is a must, a 1600 x 700 mm bath should leave enough at the end for a toilet, a mini sink on the back wall and a walkway down the side.


 
Posted : 30/10/2014 9:18 pm
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You can get those bogs with a handwash basin over the cistern, never used one so not sure how 'ergonomic' they are for anything more than a quick hand wash though.


 
Posted : 30/10/2014 9:20 pm
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If it works as a wetroom already, find a way to seal up the door when closed and turn whole space into a bath. Albeit a bath with a bog in it!

Would allow you to have normal size sink and bog as well as a massive bath.

I have no idea about plumbing right enough or if this is even possible.


 
Posted : 30/10/2014 9:26 pm
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Forget the bath. Big waste of space for something that isn't used often.
Use a sliding door or at least one that opens outwards.


 
Posted : 30/10/2014 9:41 pm
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Our old one used to be about that big.

We had sink, bath, no shower, bog. Worked fine as far as it went.

Shower was a no go, as a) there was no way to screen off the window from getting drenched every time b) a shower screen of any sort would have made taking a dump feel right claustrophobic.

I've got pics on another PC I think, if I remember I'll put them up tomorrow.

( 😯 Jeezus! have just had a google to see if there were any images from when we sold the place, to discover that it's now for sale for nearly £200k more than we got 3 years ago. For a 1.5 bedroom flat in SE27. The world's gone absolutely bonkers!! 😯 )


 
Posted : 30/10/2014 9:41 pm
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I have just put an L-shaped shower bath into our small bathroom. We very rarely use a bath but do not have room for a bath and shower. The L shape gives you a very nice space to shower with the option of having a bath if you want one.

Bought it from bathrooms.com at about half the price of an identical suite in B&Q.


 
Posted : 30/10/2014 9:47 pm
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do not do what my mate did
corner bath and no basin in his tiny bathroom. no where to do teeth or wash hands apart from in the bath .
You need to look into things like corner toilets and deep projection sinks .
narrow bath and shower over top ( reinforce the base with a section of 5ply )


 
Posted : 30/10/2014 9:54 pm
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Door opens outward, so that's ok. It's on one of the short ends,

We do want a bath somewhere in the house - currently there is none. One option is to put one in downstairs though whenever that (eventually) gets done.

Next door has just been done up with tiny sink on the left long edge as you come in, bath down long edge beside sink and bog at the end. Looks ok, but currently noone living there so no idea how practical it is.


 
Posted : 30/10/2014 10:28 pm
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When I looked to do a tiny loo, I found a company that did a loo with a basin sitting on top of the bog - so the basin filled the toilet flush. It seemed a great way to save water and space, unfortunately my wife felt it was unhygienic.

Edit - this is it http://www.cleverandeasy.com/Space-Saving/caroma-toilet-with-integrated-hand-basin.html


 
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not got a photo but the bathroom in my flat must be quite similar so I made you a sketch:

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It's tight but perfectly functional. Spent the money on decent materials and nice classic fixtures which help over bland stuff in a small space.

Gap between the side of the bath and wall is just over 2 tiles wide. use black polished porcelain so they are probably 300mm wide giving about 700mm width to the wall. The toilet is not right up against the bath as there is some boxing in for the soil pipe etc. Bath is steel and seems pretty standard size, certainly nice and wide compared to lots of modern stuff. Glass screen next to the shower. The sink is a bit tight and you have to step in and close the door and then move back to the sink but it worked for me when i lived there and I never found it cramped as the layout works well.


 
Posted : 30/10/2014 10:55 pm
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You can get those bogs with a handwash basin over the cistern, never used one so not sure how 'ergonomic' they are for anything more than a quick hand wash though.

A right pain even for washing your hands, you have to lean over the crappa for a start, even after that unless you hang a towel above it you will drip on the seat, never a good look. And if it's a flush linked one then everyone who comes to your house will think they broke something as they can't turn it off.


 
Posted : 30/10/2014 10:57 pm
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My Bathroom in my flat in the UK is smaller than that in Andyls diagram.

I've not got a photo (am at work) but essentially the bath ran the whole length of the room, so the sink went between the toilet and the radiator in the diagram above.

It took me ages to find the right sink, I ended up with one like this:

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There are lot's of "trough" style sinks about these days.

In the months after finishing it, I realised that I should have used a smaller bath, which would have fitted against the far (shorter) wall. That would have made the remaining floorspace squarer (rather than a "corridor" down the side of the bath) which would have been more useful and felt bigger. I also should have mounted the towel rail over the end of the bath (freeing-up more wall space).

Also, putting effort into producing nice clean lines and an "uncluttered" look will make it feel bigger than it is (or certainly less-small!). For example, I used a concealed cistern which fitted flush (ha!) with the soil stack boxing-in. I wish I had also used wall-mounted taps/fittings too - but I didn't have the money or the time inclination to fit them back then 🙂


 
Posted : 30/10/2014 11:36 pm
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Batfinks post just made me think I should point out that's a decent sized sink too not a small one in case you were wondering about the measurements.


 
Posted : 30/10/2014 11:41 pm
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The bathroom in my sisters house was quite small and she got a bath in the fairly easily (although it was wider than your dims, I think.
It was a small bag with very steep sides. I think it was a Japanese style something or other, but could be talking nonsense there.


 
Posted : 31/10/2014 7:11 am
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In the months after finishing it, I realised that I should have used a smaller bath, which would have fitted against the far (shorter) wall.

I've lived in houses with small baths, and they're crap. Either fit a proper sized one or just a shower.

Personally I'd go with a shower, and not worry about bathing any potential future kids. When they're small you can just use a baby bath, and as soon as they can stand just shower with them.


 
Posted : 31/10/2014 7:17 am
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^ For balance, I'm 5'11" and have a 1600 bath, but it's as deep as a deep thing & is great. I'd advise on spending on a good quality one though; Carron do a few 1600 options if you go down that route.

Shop about a lot as well; quality internet offerings are sparse. I ended up with a Hudson Reed ex-display in a local independent store for a bargain price.

Also Google outtasight shower screens to maximise space; relatively unknown little gems.


 
Posted : 31/10/2014 7:26 am
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I bought a compact bath which is essentially a normal size bath but it narrows down at one end (700mm at one end and 500mm at the other i think) in a curved fashion. This narrow end allowed me to put sink and toilet at that end without it looking all crammed in like the other house round here. I picked mine up at Stax trade centre


 
Posted : 31/10/2014 7:31 am
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not got a photo but the bathroom in my flat must be quite similar so I made you a sketch:

Exactly like that (rad in same place) only mirrored along the long axis, and the door opens outward (which helps) and you have what my neighbour's done to the refurb'd place.

Problem is, with a bath 700 wide, just leave 550 between the edge of the bath and tiles. Fit a bog how you've got it there, but tight for getting in and out the bath.

There is another complication in the ceiling slopes. It's 194cm tall at the far end, same height as me. So the shower head needs to be far enough into the room to give me clearance. Also there's a small window on the wall opposite the door, but at the other side. Where AndyL's put the showerhead... Though his layout might still work with the shower on the long edge of the bath (lived in a place like that, was fine).

I should just give up, pull up the current floor, put in a shallow shower tray and new screen and leave everything else as-is, shouldn't I?*

*something needs to be done, as the floor needs to come up to get access to the top of a lead supply pipe that needs to go.


 
Posted : 31/10/2014 7:38 am
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Do you really need a bath?

You can save WC space by having a wall-hung Laufen Compact Pro pan, as long as you can find a way of sorting the cistern. Geberit concealed cisterns are very slim and the Laufen WC is a very compact shape so even if you build a shallow box to contain the cistern it will take up less space than a standard close-coupled floor-standing WC. I think.

This was how I did the two WCs in our house, the frame is extremely rigid and doesn't budge, even when Granny plonks down on it:

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Posted : 31/10/2014 7:49 am
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Assuming as its an upstairs room (& not a load bearing wall), can you not take the wall out & steal 300-500mm off an adjacent room ?
Putting a stud wall in isn't difficult, & if your taking out a brick one you'll grab a few extra inches anyway. Would also give you a route to conceal shower pipes etc.


 
Posted : 31/10/2014 8:10 am
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Do you really need a bath?

I can smell him from here...boom boom...

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Posted : 31/10/2014 8:33 am
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Only the left hand long edge isn't load bearing, could be moved but then it's stealing space from an already small 3rd bed.

I suspect the solution is no bath, but good to have ideas to think over. This thread's produced more helpful info than I expected, so thanks all! Maybe not surprising tho, everyone goes to the bathroom.


 
Posted : 31/10/2014 8:34 am
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In my old flat we put in a walk-in shower when we did the bathroom up. It looked a lot better than the typical glass-enclosed space - and would be easier with small kids too. Ours was brick+tile up to about waist height, then glass bricks above to just over head height, then a gap up to the ceiling. Might be worth considering.


 
Posted : 31/10/2014 9:15 am
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previous owners of my house went down the no bath route in a small bathroom - its actually great - have not missed it at all....

how ever - the small sink they have used i cannot live with , it does my tits in every time i use it.

advise a full size proper sink


 
Posted : 31/10/2014 9:21 am
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There's room for a proper sink if there's no bath (one in there just now). What don't you like about the small sink - small sinks in general or something about that particular one?

Mogrim - nice idea, not sure there's room for access without some sort of sliding/opening mechanism though, but it might work, I shall ponder it.


 
Posted : 31/10/2014 9:56 am
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small sinks - you cant get into the sink for the tap.

you want to splash your face with water after you shave and water goes everywhere as you try to do it round the tap or over the tap


 
Posted : 31/10/2014 10:17 am
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Definitely. I would value a decent sized sink over a bath any day. We made the mistake of putting a small hand wash basin in our family bathroom and it's useless.

And don't make the mistake of going for one of those ridiculous bowls that sit on top of a unit - you can't stand close enough so bending over to splash your face hurts your back. You can't beat a nice big pedestal sink with separate taps.

Don't forget to wire for a heated mirror.


 
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Go vertical:

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Posted : 31/10/2014 10:38 am
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That looks like with a bit of fettling and the guts of a freezer I'd be sorted for long distance interstellar travel 🙂

And don't make the mistake of going for one of those ridiculous bowls that sit on top of a unit - you can't stand close enough so bending over to splash your face hurts your back. You can't beat a nice big pedestal sink with separate taps.

Not sure I get this? My knees are no-where near the sink when I bend over to splash my face. Maybe cos I'm quite tall.

And why separate taps? I think* mixers are better, get the water just so.

*so I'm told. Personally if I want hot, I want hot and I'll deal with melting my face off thankyou.


 
Posted : 31/10/2014 11:32 am
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That looks a lot like the Spinal Tap pods...


 
Posted : 31/10/2014 12:29 pm
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It did make me think of "projecting power" in the bathroom.

That's me referencing the director's commentary extra on the DVD tho, which is a bit niche. But if you like ST you should watch it, cos it's the cast members commenting in character about the film as if it was them looking back years later on a documentary, it's hilarious.


 
Posted : 31/10/2014 12:36 pm
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Both our old and current places had tiny basins in the downstairs toilet and they really are crap. These were so small you couldn't wash your hands properly and if you turned the taps on too high water would splash out and all over the place.

When we were lookng to buy I immediately ruled out any places that didn't have a proper bath. Shortsighted perhaps, especially since I have a bath perhaps once a year, but the wife likes a nice soak and the kids love bath time.


 
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Well unless you really need a bath why bother ? IME fitting a small bath defeats the only purpose of a bath which is lying back full length and relaxing. As above lots of space saving ideas these days, narrow sinks etc. The Wet room idea helps as it removes the need for a shower cubicle but they can be a PITA as everything gets wet inc the loo roll !


 
Posted : 31/10/2014 1:04 pm
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IME fitting a small bath defeats the only purpose of a bath which is lying back full length and relaxing.

Good point, but a big reason to fit one would be to bathe a small child.

I'm veering toward just going with making the end of the room the shower area with a screen across, and then a bath in the downstairs utility room (far larger) when we get around to redoing that area.


 
Posted : 31/10/2014 1:45 pm