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Removal of automatic consent for DVLA to sell Data to private companies
Responsible department: Department for Transport
We, the below signed, wish to petition the Government to remove the 'presumed automatic right' which allows DVLA and other Govt. depts to sell data regarding identification of individuals to non-Governmental organisations, and replace it with new legislation requiring Government bodies (such as DVLA) to require the express written permission of each individual person for whom a data request by a non-Government organisation has been made.
[url= https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/2887 ]clicky[/url]
E-petitions are a total waste of space. Sorry.
who do they sell it to and for what reason?
Not a troll I may sign it but why?
Cheers
PS breathe and dont rant unless it is comedy gold obviously 😉
We know the masters hate to hear the plebs speak thanks Cpt but hey its fun
yah well they are if you refuse to sign them. Its worth a try!
You should be sorry you miserable chip pissing plastic welshman 😀
I guess it must be to those car parking companies etc that want to chase you with an invoice
E-petitions are a total waste of space. Sorry.
Someone should do a petition to get rid of them then.
...possibly using electronics.
What space?
They sell it to aldi car park gits to try and sting you for 80 quid for overstaying whilst shopping. They sell it to marketing companies for sales data.. I don't like it.
[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1330075/DVLA-sells-data-to-car-park-clampers.html ]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1330075/DVLA-sells-data-to-car-park-clampers.html[/url]
[url= http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/20/dvla_data_flog/ ]http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/20/dvla_data_flog/[/url]
[url= http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/bdotg/action/layer?topicId=1082032108 ]http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/bdotg/action/layer?topicId=1082032108[/url]
ta fella signed
sticking it to the man since 1983 ish
Yay JY deflects the piss from my chips. Suck on that CFH!!!
I did not seem to do well in that deal 😕
You didnt touch it, it was your amazing aura..
Signed it but i'm left wondering: is there a presumed consent to distribute my details I have entered to sign said petition if so what are we to do?
Anyone care to find an example where any of these e-petitions have "worked"?
😆 @ toys
signed but I suspect I'm just practising slacktivism (great made up word)
They sell it to aldi car park gits to try and sting you for 80 quid for overstaying whilst shopping.
That's never going to change. It makes no sense to dispose of the existing system and create a massive administrative burden on the courts to order DVLA to release this information to identify prospective defendants - which they will always do.
They sell it to marketing companies for sales data.
That might change.
Are people willing to pay extra in fees to cover the lost revenue?
Signed. Without choice, what is consent?
That's never going to change. It makes no sense to dispose of the existing system and create a massive administrative burden on the courts to order DVLA to release this information to identify prospective defendants - which they will always do.
Well hopefully due to the burden on courts they would just shelve the requests and get on with more important business, as has been happening in Germany with people downloading films, if companies need to manage their car parking then they can do it in other ways.
This issue has always boiled my piss, and is a basic example of how the governments have scant regard for personal privacy. There was a case a few years back (on watchdog I think) where a company had a big sign outside explaining the parking and site rules etc. While cars pulled up to read the sign (which took a couple of minutes) they were captured on camera, deemed to have been parked, and subsequently sent a parking fine, the details having nicely been provided by the DVLA.
I would have supported ID cards if I had any belief at all that the government would protect the data rather than just pass it on to any private entity that wants it.
However e-petitions are a pointless exercise, and do more to lull people into believing they are doing something instead of taking more effective action.
e-petitions are a pointless exercise
Why? If 100,000 signatures are collected, the issue becomes eligible for debate in the House of Commons. Surely that's a good thing? Signing the petition does not stop people campaigning more vigorously on issues they feel strongly about. Is there any evidence or reasoned argument to suggest people are being "lulled'?
Well hopefully due to the burden on courts they would just shelve the requests and get on with more important business
That involves splitting requests between important and non-important requests - according to criteria - and doing it fairly. All of which is a massive waste of expensive time just so some parking ticket dodgers don't have to ignore some letters in the post.
They sell it to aldi car park gits to try and sting you for 80 quid for overstaying whilst shopping.That's never going to change. It makes no sense to dispose of the existing system and create a massive administrative burden on the courts to order DVLA to release this information to identify prospective defendants - which they will always do.
Not the case.. You are presuming from your use of the word 'defendant' that where you park on a private car park and are 'invoiced' that it is a criminal matter. It is not. It is a civil matter. Where there are local authorities involved or the police then things are different and they will always have the legal right to obtain your information from DVLA for free. It's only private parking companies that will buy your data from the DVLA in order to chase you for payment of their invoices that they dress up to look like fines for parking on private land.
Preventing the DVLA from selling your data will not affect the ability of courts to prosecute drivers. It will stop private companies from trying to make you think you have been fined when in fact you have been invoiced. A very VERY good thing in my opinion.
I've signed it.
The great people's fight back has commenced!
I'm so freakin' pumped right now. 8)
Signed.
You are presuming from your use of the word 'defendant' that where you park on a private car park and are 'invoiced' that it is a criminal matter. It is not. It is a civil matter.
Err - no, I'm not presuming that at all. The person who is sued by the plaintiff in a civil action is also called a "defendant".
Would you like to have another run at your post?
Maybe I should to make you understand the difference between private companies seeking to buy your data and government departments having a legal right to it, which you didn't get the first time round.
Mark - Resident Grumpy
They sell it to aldi car park gits to try and sting you for 80 quid for overstaying whilst shopping.
That's never going to change. It makes no sense to dispose of the existing system and create a massive administrative burden on the courts to order DVLA to release this information to identify prospective defendants - which they will always do.Not the case.. You are presuming from your use of the word 'defendant' that where you park on a private car park and are 'invoiced' that it is a criminal matter. It is not. It is a civil matter. Where there are local authorities involved or the police then things are different and they will always have the legal right to obtain your information from DVLA for free. It's only private parking companies that will buy your data from the DVLA in order to chase you for payment of their invoices that they dress up to look like fines for parking on private land.
Preventing the DVLA from selling your data will not affect the ability of courts to prosecute drivers. It will stop private companies from trying to make you think you have been fined when in fact you have been invoiced. A very VERY good thing in my opinion.
I've signed it.
I don't think I've ever had a mod on my side before...
Konabunny - Imagine I'm your landlord, if a random person came to me and said "your tenant, that girl(or boy) with brown hair she (or he) lives in number three, I don't know her (or his) name or any details but she (or he) owes me money, can you supply me with her (or his) details?"
Would you want me to? Does he have a legal right to your details?
Signed. Up with this sort of thing.
[url= http://www.lawgazette.co.uk/blogs/blogs/news-blog/e-petitions-are-dangerous-and-pointless-so-why-bother-them ]Law Soc Gazette[/url]
and
[url= http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/dan-hodges/2011/08/rights-government-petition ]The Staggers[/url]
etc, etc.
They are a veneer, that's all.
(am not arguing with the issue at question here, BTW, just the e-petition point)
Can anyone see any information on the epetition website about how the data collected in signing the petition is safeguarded/used/distributed?
Possible irony alert.
CFH - they are not evidence are they, they are opinion from elitist magazines. Dan Hodges is a well known tory basher - works for or has worked for labour.
Just sign it anyway for my sake, think of it as an experiment see what happens. In a year if things haven't changed I'll buy you a portion of chips to piss in. 😀
I see rants, but not reasoned arguments. Sure, the vast majority of the issues will never get anywhere near Commons debate, and no, it is not a panacea to replace normal modes of democracy. Who said they are? Hilary Benn has it in the NSM article - anything that moves or engages political discussion among the populous is a good thing.
If it's a question of taste and mock empathy I can go along with that. However, the capacity to launch an issue and see whether it chimes with others is not a terrible thing, is it? As to what the NSM article builds up to:
Far from placing power in the hands of the people, e-petitions serve only to put more power in the hands of those who have ways of influencing the people. The lobbyists, the activists, the business interests; those who have the time, money and resources to manipulate them in their favour.
Some evidence would be useful here and without it there's not much more than can be said. If we're taking about PR and campaigning, surely there are much bigger questions to be answered in relation to mass media and journalism?
It makes no sense to dispose of the existing system and create a massive administrative burden on the courts to order DVLA to release this information to identify prospective defendants - which they will always do.
Not if those wanting the information have insufficient grounds for the courts to release it to them.
E-petitions are a total waste of space. Sorry.
Well I tried:
Your e-petition "Get rid of e-petitions" hasn't been accepted.There is already an e-petition about this issue.
Not sure why they think http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/844 is the same when my wording: "e-peititions are a complete waste of space" is far more to the point.